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Keep aiming, cos Naija is a country where aims, ideas and plans are aborted or killed before they are born

[b]Like someone already said, no matter how hard it is, those who will make it here will make it big. I am another hustling student here in UK. It is hard, but I believe if you're on the right course and you keep your heads down, you will succeed here and break through to the top. UK is not like Yankee or any other place. Here, they pride hard work. In UK, you hardly hit it big instantly. You have to start from the begining. The UK awards excellence, and you can quote me on this anywhere. What happens to many Nigerians is that we lose our steam on getting here and we blow average. The crux of the matter is that you have to be extra-ordinary to break into the proper UK job market. I will like to know how many people here on NL got 1st class in a proper course and didnt get an offer on graduation. I'm just curious. 4 of my friends got job offers from big construstion firms on the day they came to sign off from the uni. I think being in a top uni also helps. If you do not get a job, at least you're likely to get a research offer especially those in science and engineering. The prospects are big if you're on the right course, in the right place, with the right atitude and self discipline. For two years in a row, I can say 80% of Nigerians who finished from my uni are doing great. A good proportion are on paid PHD, while a few have been 'snapped' up by top UK companies. Perhaps we need to stop going to the South Banks and the UELs and actually work harder to get into the LSEs and Imperials if Ox-Bridge wont take us. [/b]

Well noted, but how many of your friends were self-sponsored? Most Naija folks would love to be in LSEs and Ofords of the world, but who is going to pay for that? Dont tell me our parents, because over 80% of Naija students in UK got moral and spiritual support from their parents not financial; cos their parents could not afford it.

Corporate Area Boy

The conduct of the business of the day was not any better. After the the Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Mallam Yayale Ahmed, had introduced the president with the usual time-wasting flurry of protocols, Chairman Stanbic/IBTC, Mr. Atedo Peterside, set the tone of what was to come in what were described as goodwill messages. First, he said Jonathan's victory at at the polls was not because of the Peoples Democractic Party (PDP) but in spite of the party. Then he said at his polling unit in Victoria Island Lagos, for instance, the same people who voted for the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in the National Assembly polls voted for Jonathan in the presidential, before returning to vote ACN in the governorship and State Assembly elections

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/corporate-area-boys/92287/

Very UGLY CHILDREN
Dont they have beautiful children in Nigeria anymor

Monkey pikin no fine, but de mama like am. Can I get her daughter's ping number?

Speaking to a group newsmen on the issue on Wednesday Mr Marcus Appleton, a Senior Store Manager said the decision was based on an assessment of its shoppers who come from outside Briatain..

What happened to editing?

SLS is stupid. What's internet penetration in Naija? Why is he comparing Naija with UK and US?

It seems,  he's offering failure reasons in advance. If I fail, blame it on short 4 years I had in office.

I thought it a previledge to join this conversation. In the first place, i will advice everybody to consider receiving JESUS CHRIST into your life as your LORD and SAVIOR. Ideally it is morally wrong to be pregnant before you get married. However, it's very difficult to abstain from sex if you are not born again. It takes the grace, power of God and deliberate effort not to live in sin. Only in CHRIST that somebody can receive this preciuos grace and power.
REPENT THEREFORE AND BE CONVERTED SO YOUR SINS CAN BE FORGIVEN YOU. God bless all readers in Jesus name.
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Why is it a Naija thing not to get pregnant before marriage? Did Kate Middleton  get pregnant for Prince Williams before marriage? If marriage is about making and raising a family, why do you put the cart before the horse?  Marriage before kids is still appreciated by many including westerners as well.


The only thing that is clear from your OP is that you are  DESPERATE  to be hitched  by this guy since you are having his baby. You are afraid that he might find another woman in Naija and forget about you.Well, it might still happen, so go and buy a GPS tracker and stick it to his boxers. It's unfortunate that you could not influence him to at least  do a registry wedding and put a ring on your finger- then plan for a big wedding, instead, he convinced you to have his baby without you extracting any tangible commitment from him. For guys, having a kid is much easier than asking  a lady for a lifetime commitment in marriage 



Good luck.

How long did you date/know the guy before marriage? Was it arranged? Sometimes, the mere fact that a man lives outside Naija makes most girls in Naija to say yes without knowing the man. This is one of bad things you get, when you dont do your homework very well.

then you are not a friend let alone a boyfriend

If you made a mistake that made your company to lose money, then, man up and get your acts together. Your boss is not your father or mother, so he/she is not beholding to costly relationships, but bottom lines.

Now, provide jobs to BSc holders first and close all the polytechnics,

Dalover

I'm pro capitalism, but if you remove the so called subsidies, Naija politicians WILL pocket the proceeds. The effects: prices will go up, everything will go up and masses will suffer, but politicians and their cronies will be throwing parties  and flying their wives, concubines and families to New York, Paris, London and Dubai for shopping.

Let the government build railway and put an end to power shortage, then they can kill the subsidy by having  functioning refineries.

In the USA, farmers are subsidized to 50 cents on a dollar.  Scottie Pippen, who played professional basketball for 17 years gets subsidies, Paul Allen, Microsoft Billionaire founder gets farm subsidies.  The big oil companies get big subsidies about $21 billion in 10 years. Wall Street got over $900 billion in bailout funds. Amtrak in the US is subsidized by the government.
Why are prices of petroleum cheaper in Libya that borders Egypt , Chad, Niger and Sudan where prices are higher? Why are prices cheaper in UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait if not because of subsidies. Why does the state of Alaska give oil money to  every Alaskan from their oil wealth fund? Is that not subsidy?
Finally, there is a quota of pbd that has been assigned to NNPC for domestic consumption, so if it had been functioning at its near production capacity, it would be refining the assigned quota. Using NYMEX oil price as a benchmark is really flawed because the cost of Caterpillar Machines -made in the USA is not the same with similar machines shipped to Nigeria for oil exploration. It costs about 50-100% more in Nigeria, so why should Nigerians pay the same price with Americans when it comes oil that is produced in our back yard?
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There was no Ibo at the meeting?

Dont we have Ibo cement manufacturers?


GEJ must not have extended invites to fake cement manufactures. . . Maybe!


Now you that you have had your 2-minute tirade and fame, show us how would you pay N1000 less of what an Igbo man would pay for a bag of cement in your enclave.

In Naija factor, I dont know why people would take 4cyl over 6cyl. The  roads are rough with sticky and muddy driving terrains. It's better to have  a v6 with higher  power that  would help in navigating through these rough roads.
Also there is going to be so much tear and wear on  4cyl engine because of the roads. Piston and rings would go bad more often on 4cyl than 6cyl.
V6 delivers more on power, torque,longevity, less on tear and wear, while 4cyl  saves on petrol if the 4cyl has close year of manufacture with the V6.


I dont know we are having this roadside mechanic argument.  These so called mechanics keep telling truck buyers that 5-6speed trucks are better than 9-13speed trucks. Guess what? 5-6spd trucks do 1-2 trips per week while 9-13speed trucks can deliver 4 trips in a week. Another kicker is that 5-6 speed trucks are older and suck more gas like NNPC and  are always making visits to the so called mechanics.

Hope you know that nigeria is far poorer than these countries you mentioned, provision of free services cost money to somebody, for a country without depth, even if nigeria was curruption free today, it wouldn't still make commercial sence to start with subsidies on petroleum products first, even in this rich countries you mentioned like france, there have been contract demonstrations because a number of these subsidies are becoming unsustainable, hence the constant labour strikes in France.

South Africa has built over 2 million homes for her citizens since the end of Apartheid. Egypt has food subsidies and some other social programs; Botswana has a trust fund that benefits everyone in their country, Libya has a lot of social programs benefitting her citizens. Why are local petroleum prices highest amongst OPEC countries?

It has been prooven beyound reasonable doubt that Nigerian government cannot run any business, so why stating that ESKOM is SA is run by government?? I can say for sure that since ESKOM produces 40000MW when run by government, it may as well produce 60000MW in the hands of a private entity, Hence money is still beeen lost, all people in the canoe of government run businesses are try to jump to the speedboats of privately run environments, Government run businesses may give some good results in an environment of reduced corruption, but in Nigeria we have to find a way to sidestep corruption.
Lets change the way we run things.

[b]I was trying to state that not every government run entity is a failure in every country. Corruption is the problem in Najia; and it does not stop in government run companies, but prevalent in privately run companies. Cadbury’s Bunmi Oni and   failed Bank CEOs are example.
Saudi Aramco is the largest producer of crude oil in the world owned by Saudi government. Botswana is the best run country in Africa, yet the government is involved in mining and production of diamonds in the country. Debswana is a company in which the government has a majority stake and it’s doing well.
Mandela did not nationalize ESKOM, but white folks – who are synonymous with privatize everything – made it that way and it’s serving the purpose why it was created. You have not answered why France has government running power companies. Or why US government is running public rail transport system. Can you say the same thing of NEPA? Egypt and Libya have the same system.
Venezuela is another example in which the government runs refineries and her citizens are enjoying the benefits. PDVSA through its subsidiary, CITGO, owns and operates refineries in the USA. Its refineries are in Germany, UK, Belgium, Sweden and Caribbean.
The world’s largest energy company to fail was US ENRON which was privately run. Wall  Street companies that started the recession were 99% private entities.
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Quote from: adconline on Today at 04:14:48 AM
You are off the mark, because the government has not done anything.So something near free does not exist in Naija. The Naija constitution stipulates that the govt shall provide social benefits to Nigerians.

The reason you feel that the government has not done anything is because of the way nigerians interprete the bolded,
Government tries to provide everything either free or at a subsidised rate
-Primary, secondary and university education, transportation busses, airlines, airports, power, telecommunications, fuel, water, loans, NNPC petro stations, pipelines, chuches, morsques, pilgramages, football and sports, radios stations, tv stations, etc, etc etc, I can go on and on,
Government is involved in almost everything you can think off, and what is it they say about a jack of all trades Master of none

Restating what someone said: Any empirical proof that Naija government has done any of the above. What is the basic function of the government? For 50 years, the government has refused to provide basic necessities like health, roads, infrastructure, education and security in order for public enterprise to flourish. Why hasn’t  the government fixed the refineries since Abacha’s time? If the subsidies are removed, who gets the money if not Naija corrupt politicians? IMF is not mad that GEJ, governors and Co  shared over $30 billion from ECA in about 12months and they are lamenting that 150 million people get paltry $4.5 billion thru subsidies.

Well Nigerian want to hear that they will be given free education, free light, free unemployment, free this and free that, and the politicians promise that, only to discover that it is not possible to achieve because |Nigeria is actually a very poor country in every sense of those words, be it financial or human capital, a friend once told me when you are fighting an enemy, its better to deliver one powerfully blow than many small blows, Nigeria is fighting poverty and economic stagnation, and we have limited resources, to be able to channel this recourses properly by reducing corruption, you reduce corruption by reducing the size of government, to reduce the size of government by limiting government to regulations and policy making funded soley by taxation, A lean mean efficient government, with the private sector running move of the countries activities, includeing urban redevelopment and infrastructural development,

You are off the mark, because the government has not done anything.So something near free does not exist in Naija. The Naija constitution stipulates that the govt shall provide social benefits to Nigerians. France provides free education up to university. Mind you IMF is headed by France. US provides free education up to High school and WorldBank is headed by US.

ESKOM, which is responsible for power in S/Africa is owned by the govt. Same with France. Public transport in the US is almost free- heavily subsidized by the government.

[b]I honestly think too many people on this forum are bodered about how to sustain the existing poor masses than how to move the mass of poor people out of poverty into the middle class,
To me all the present policies and laws of the country sustain poverty,  if we can close our eyes to the existing poverty and realise that before any good thing comes along, there has to be some suffering, then we will appreciate the need to remove subsidies i.e nothing good comes easy, We need to remove subsidies very quickly.
But removal of subsidies alone cannot change or improve the lot of the nigerian masses, I am thinking a major atitude change by majority of the middle class(as withnessed here in NL) and leadership from overbearing socialist tendencies where the government is deeply involved in business to a more capitalist nature where government is lean, mean and concentrated more on regulation for the benefit of the country.

The fact that The federal and state governments don't depend on peoples taxes to survive means that whould not be answerable to the people.
Removal of subsidies should not come in isolation as the solution to anything, afterall, coruption will quickly erode the gains of any savings,

Whats needs to be none,
1-Quickly privatise all its commercial interest NNPC, NFA, Nigerian air-waste, NEPA etc etc etc, taking care to accomode all the six zones.
2-Bottom to Top model of revenue generation otherwise know as the federal system be properly implemented, All government revenue should come from taxes, individuals-lgas-states-fg, not the other way round.
3-Allow for a free market economy that encourages local production capacity, we are seriously dependent on foreign manufactured goods, Imagine local operating refinaries that sources all/majority of their spares locally,

In summary removal of subsidies is the best way forward if 9ja government is ready to overhall its model of doing things,
presently there are too many people that have built up a system based on sharing of oil revenues, and if this continues we will continue thinking of how to sustain poverty of the masses for many years to come.
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Too much of rhetorical argument without  taking into account facts on the ground. How is Nigeria a socialist driven country when it does not have  any social security of safety net for  her citizens?
Where is free education? Where is constant power supply? Where is unemployment benefit? Where is security?
IMF is telling us how to run our economy while its' Chief who is alleged to have sexually assaulted a woman who came to clean his $3000/per nite suite is telling us to tighten our belt.

BTW, why is the present government saying that all the federal agencies that were privatized are badly run by Nigerians? Where are Transcorp and Nicon, NITEL  etc? Corruption is killing us not subsidies. African farmers make the best cotton in the world, but American cotton  farmers who produce at higher prices sell cheaper because of farm subsidies from US government.

1) The $4.2 billion in subsidies is not the most efficient way to address whatever need it is meant to achieve (I guess helping out poor people.) There has to be at least one scheme on earth that achieves whatever goal this subsidy has more efficiently.

What  better way to do it in Naija? Why  hasn't the US stopped subsidies for Amtrak,public transport systems, farmers, big oil and Wall Street?

1. I'm not sure that the subsidies are really working. Subsidized electricity in Nigeria has essentially killed most of the manufacturing in Nigeria, due to scarcity. So perversely, the electricity subsidy has done more harm than good in Nigeria since the 1980s. I don't know enough about the oil business to say that the same is true in Nigeria, but it very well might be.
2. Subsidies breed corruption.
3. I'm not advocating removing these subsidies instantaneously. You can do it slowly over a 10 year period or something.
4. Which wastages would you tackle first? Anyway, I'm not against keeping the subsidy. . . . just don't complain about fuel shortages, corruption in NNPC, oil profiteers, and lack of functional refineries. After all, it isn't as if these bad things happen in a bubble

Get your facts straight! Electricity is supplied by ESKOM in S/Africa, yet, it generates about 40,000 MGW while Nigeria generates about 3800 MGW. Electricity is generated by French government-one of the biggest financiers of IMF/World Bank.
In the USA, farmers are subsidized to 50 cents on a dollar.  Scottie Pippen, who played professional basketball for 17 years gets subsidies, Paul Allen, Microsoft Billionaire founder gets farm subsidies.  The big oil companies get big subsidies about $21 billion in 10 years. Wall Street got over $900 billion in bailout funds. Amtrak in the US is subsidized by the government.
Why are prices of petroleum cheaper in Libya that borders Egypt , Chad, Niger and Sudan where prices are higher? Why are prices cheaper in UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait if not because of subsidies. Why does the state of Alaska give oil money to  every Alaskan from their oil wealth fund? Is that not subsidy?
Finally, there is a quota of pbd that has been assigned to NNPC for domestic consumption, so if it had been functioning at its near production capacity, it would be refining the assigned quota. Using NYMEX oil price as a benchmark is really flawed because the cost of Caterpillar Machines -made in the USA is not the same with similar machines shipped to Nigeria for oil exploration. It costs about 50-100% more in Nigeria, so why should Nigerians pay the same price with Americans when it comes oil that is produced in our back yard?

you all guys should just keep the hell shut ! I had my B.s.c degree from Bowen Univ 2007 set to be precise and i can boldly tell you that the moral value impacted has made me who i am today. it wont cost you anything to do the right thing

Let's see how of you that might become Gani. It's unfortunate that your parents relegated their responsibilities to BOWEN. You cannot teach an old dog new tricks

He is a professional Naija politician like PDP moneybags. He supplied ALGON jeeps to Naija Police Force some years ago.

Another stupid religion!

They should have known better. There are no bargains and campaigns after election!

What's the big deal? Greater fights are coming. Hope you all have mastered how much a tin of similac is going to cost?

On a lighter note, why do most women favour tradition when it benefits them? Like the issue of the woman changing her last name to her husband's last name was said to be a bad tradition by some women. Nobody said anything about Prince William's name coming first!

there is no campaign after election!

Trying to be politically correct!

Ahaahaha ^^ what does a pre-nup have to do with anything?
You talk like in every marriage, the man is always the bread-winner. Look around you, hun. It's 2011.


You are giving an illusion of everyone retaining their individuality and preference. Maybe I should rephrase: If a woman wants to retain her name, it's OK, the same woman should also be OK that the man wants a prenup or doesnt want to open up his bank account for her . The premise of retaining your name should also be extended to owning  properties, and financial matters.

BTW, in Naija, most men are breadwinners

Just do a prenup= Keep everything equal , but separate.