₦airaland Forum

mosdii:
You are very correct, Moses Cleopas is unpopular and that has already made it easy for us in APC.
Bayelsa Central will be clinched by APC ceteris paribus.

Distinguish Barr. Festus Daumiebi will win

Oh, so two Senatorial seats are being contested. Please what happened to the former senators?

Are there two vacant senatorial seats?

Goke7:
Sir, most of the churches are not following the teachings of Christ then cos the courts are full of so many church cases. Can you see how the church has invited the world or govt to pry into it's affairs? So who is truly responsible for all planned laws? Are you aware of so many church leadership disputes in Nigerian courts?

I really appreciate all your thoughts so far. The ultimate solution to all these is for the church to self regulate which is where the churches in Nigeria has failed to do. This is why CAN or PFN was even set up but the problem has always been that no one want to be accountable to anybody as everyone claim they are called by God and only accountable to him which has always been the gimmick used to cover all atrocities lots of churches and pastors have been associated with. Like I said earlier let's stop pretending that all is well. Even in the genuine churches there are issues cos they have all failed to self regulate. This is why the idea that the pastors and churches should be left alone to do as they please cannot hold water anymore. As you have also pointed out, many are no longer following the teachings of Christ in resolving even their internal issues.

The day nigerian churches truly uphold righteousness and integrity, they will find it easier to tell govt to look away from it's affairs but all your theological theories of how church can handle itself is not working in any Nigerian church today except we want to tell ourselves lies and the pastors themselves know it.

According to Scriptures, every govt is ordained by God and they bear not the sword in vain, reason we are enjoined to always pray for those in authority to guide us in all godliness and honesty. The church in Nigeria despite the gains in terms of number of, attendance, souls and conversions has not been a very good example in the last 20 years in the area of integrity and holiness, gone are the days employers of labour seek referrals from churches and pastors for employment, gone are the days cheques from churches are honoured at banks without much questions. The Nigerian church need to do soul searching and return to righteousness, then we don't need to be fighting with govt on pages of newspapers. It has nothing to do with whoever in aso rock after all we had non christians as Presidents when the church still had much respect and honour than today. Telling the govt that they have no spiritual competence to pry into church affairs is double speaking as the church too has not enough spiritual competence to handle its own internal affairs from what we have seen over the years.

Whatever is happening today is a call to the church by God to awake and return to righteousness. God bless you bro and blessed week to you and yours.

You write so well. These submissions are apt!

May the good Lord bless you with more wisdom.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Again, find out things before you jump to conclusions. In the UK where such happened to winners and MFM recently, the trustees where not suspended. What was done was that financial running of the church was taken over by an administrator while trustees remained to continue to serve the spiritual aspects of the church.
Good you now agree that it's "few" members or pastors aka trustees that are privy to the financial details of the church which is what FRC requires. No law requires that all members be informed.
I don't know where you get the idea that churches have a lot to hide. You can cite examples to buttress your claim.

You come across as a moralist more than a practising Christian not to mention your poor knowledge of Christianity which you brandish so confidently.
Jesus is God in human form. Him confronting the Pharisees was as a result of his superiority as the son of God.
Peter was not head of the church. James was. He's called James the Elder.
Go and read first Samuel. They got a king and a curse with it.
God expressly stated that the judgements of his servants lies with him and not man. In cases of erring pastors, pastors higher than such in spiritual hierarchy are too enforce discipline not the church members. The church members are to pray for God's grace to save his servants. God's standards are not man's.
Be guided.

This is a serious matter oh. Who is now a Christian?

In view of the recent noise about CAMA 2020 and its inherent powers to sack the Board of Trustees of Charity organisations including religious bodies, this thread seems to beam light on the actual duties of A Church Board of Trustees.

I have also come to realise that a lot of church members do not even know those who are made up of the Board of Trustees of their church.

I will attempt to garner information on the Trustees of some popular churches in Nigeria.

EIGHT ( 8 ) CHURCH BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES
JANUARY 14, 2020 BY PATRICIA

https://smartchurchmanagement.com/church-board-responsibilities/


Most churches rely on the donations of its members to fund its mission. Members enjoy a tax deduction for these donations that are freely given to churches that maintain nonprofit status with the IRS (Tax Authority).

One of the requirements for maintaining a nonprofit status is to have an oversight board. Church board responsibilities are many but the most important is to ensure that the ministry is financially viable and that it fulfills its core mission.

This is done by developing strategy, monitoring performance and ensuring church financial accountability for the sacrificed donations of its members.

Church boards make certain a meaningful mission is implemented effectively.

Effective boards have an impact on the long-term viability of the organization and have a vested interest in how well the church implements the strategy of achieving its mission.

This is done by meeting regularly while actively overseeing the key operational functions – which are church budget oversight, top leader performance evaluation, strategic performance management, and legal compliance.

EIGHT ( 8 ) CHURCH BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES

1. Strategic Planning
The board is responsible for articulating the church’s core mission and developing a strategy and plan to achieve it.

This is done by going through a formal strategic planning process. Develop a mission, vision and values statement and operational goals that map out the specific steps needed for achieving the mission.

Delegate those goals to specific departments of the church.

For instance, if the church has an objective to create outreach programs for its community, write actionable goals and delegate those responsibilities to someone. Then hold them accountable for getting it done.

2. Managing Performance
The board is responsible for monitoring and holding leadership accountable for doing their job.

This is done by developing annual church goals, delegating that responsibility to leadership, and then monitoring the progress.

Show support by delegating decision-making and authoritative boundaries for achieving those goals.

For example, the Executive Pastor should understand the boundaries of his authority for making tactical decisions about the day-to-day operations of the ministry. This decision-making authority removes decision bottlenecks that can hinder the progress toward achieving a goal.

3. Financial Oversight
The board oversees and ensures there is responsible stewardship of church resources, and that it maintains financial accountability, and solvency.

This is done by approving and overseeing the annual church budget.

church board responsibilities
Provide input and direction into strategy and prioritize spending to ensure that the strategy has the necessary financial resources to support it.

Financial oversight includes identifying independent outside auditors to perform occasional audits to safeguard against embezzlement, ensure good business practices, and to maintain compliance with state and federal laws.

4. Managing Compensation
The board is responsible for chartering a compensation committee.

This committee is responsible for benchmarking top church leader’s compensation, making recommendations for pay and housing allowance, and approving salaries of senior leadership.

5. Ensure Legal Compliance
Church boards are responsible for adhering to laws that govern nonprofit organizations.

This includes the duties of care, loyalty, and obedience.

The board has a responsibility to ensure that the church stays true to its core mission by participating in decision-making, using good judgment, setting aside personal interests to ensure the best interest of the organization is kept, and by complying with governing laws.

6. Monitor Conflict-of-Interest
The board is responsible for ensuring there are no conflicts-of-interest and puts policies and systems in place to ensure full disclosure of any potential conflicts between outside organizations and church employees or the board.

For instance, if a church board member owns a painting company, this could be a potential conflict if that company is given preferential treatment for outsourced painting jobs.

Do this by creating a conflict of interest policy that requires employees and board members to disclose potential conflicts and sign a conflict of interest statement.

7. Maintain Supporting Documents and Board Records
The board is responsible for ensuring all board records are kept including:

board minutes
mission, vision, values statement,
church bylaws,
articles of incorporation
and any policies that govern the board function.
Manage these documents by housing them on secure servers and controlled file cabinets.

8. Board Training
Help new board members by providing the appropriate orientation and training for their role.

This includes a review of all corporate documents, job descriptions, and responsibilities.

Also, orient them to understand the legal requirements for board members. There are many church board training resources that can help.

Anyone who is chosen to be part of a church board should recognize the honor and incredible responsibility that comes with that role.

Having a good understanding of role responsibilities, coupled with thorough training, is a great way to get a board member equipped to serve the church.

https://smartchurchmanagement.com/church-board-responsibilities/

bezimo:
Is it you that is a Christian.. posses devil how I wish I can release an angel to give a brain resetting konk. Bastard devils

you need help.

bezimo:
Yes I am familiar with the law and you that is familiar tell me how my interpretation is wrong..

I abuse devils and curse them out.Heaven approves such..you are not a reasonable normal person..even proverbs encouraged me to answer stupid people like you in the way they deserve.

Heaven approves such? Where in the New Testament? And the way you certify someone a devil is if they have an opinion that differs from yours? Are you sure you are not the one who is actually a Devil?

bezimo:
You don't go to church neither are you a Christian.. so why are you interested in church matters and in removing their trustee board and pastor..if you are not a possesed demonic bastard devil..
Church trustee is part of the functioning of the church..they sanction the approval of statutory body members and church workers..and manage church money..and can write petition to head office for pastor to be removed..if you go to church you will know this things..instead of talking thrash.

You are definitely not a christian with these utterances. You are obviously someone claiming to be a christian in order to paint Christianity in bad light.

MrColdsweat:
The openness will be done by us at our own will and time.

You cannot trust this satanists who are bent on eliminating Christianity in Nigeria to modify Christianity. No way.

I don't go to church, but I know this government well enough to reject their attempt at modifying Christianity.

Like what good have the government done for the common man since 2015?

Our youths are seated at home because of strike. People are being killed every second. And your problem is to modify Christianity.

Madness!

We are complaining that you have done nothing concerning the killing of Christians and you want to tamper with Christianity.


Why can't they go and modify the barbaric death sentence and the Quran laws which conflicts with the constitution?


These people are taking us for fools. We must resist them.

We have a long history with Muslims.

They hate us. They are barbarians. We must fight them if they refuse to take their hands off Christianity.

Modify Christianity? Chai, our people perish for lack of knowledge.

bezimo:
Your Christianity has a big question mark that's if you are not confirmed fake.

I serve God in a unit in my church and i am very familiar with the board of the church and how they do things..I and will not support any law that has the tendency to undermine the functioning of the church. How can an Islamic satanic government that has promoted the killings of christians in the north put laws in place to remove trustee of a church and appoint who? And you think it's acceptable..my friend you are fake reprobate lying liar. Your Christianity is fake. No make ne vex abeg.

That churches need more openess based on what grounds and criteria? Have the government finished giving us openess in how the Nigerian money is looted and stolen..is church they now want to regulate..and you say you are Christian.. Fake..

Are you familiar with the provisions of this law? have you read it yourself to know if the allegations you are spilling are true? Study to shew yourself approved.

Under which conditions can an application be made against the Board of the Church? Will the court of law be involved in this process?

Christianity is not only about foaming in the mouth and ready to do battle. When Peter wanted to use that approach, what did our Lord say/do?

I have not in anyway abused you, and you have already abused me. Are you sure you are indeed christlike?

bezimo:
Most of these folks speaking against church on this platform based on this illconceived CAMA law..are possesed reprobate devils that hate church and pastors with so much passion..Oh you dont know!! you can't make the mistake of counting them among true Christians.. they can be aptly described like what Jesus said "brood of vipers"..bastard devils.

To take a stand does not mean one is speaking against the church. I am a christian. However, this noise over the provision governing mismanagement of the registered entity under the new CAMA is overbloated.

There is need for more openness in the way Pentecostal churches are being run.

If I asked you now if you know the Trustees of your church, I can take a wild guess that you only know either one or two out of all the persons on the Board.

Indelibleword:
Please let me ask an important question and I want anyone knowledgeable in the area with valid and concrete evidence should answer. How many mosques are registered with the CAC?

Direct your enquiry to the Registrar of the CAC.

honeyB2018:
I love to obey biblical injunctions, in dealing with elders and those in authority, if not, I would have addressed Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, in a bad light.
Is he saying, as a. Christian and pastor, he was not aware of the provisions of this Act?
If so, what is he there for?
Like I have always said here over this CAMA 2020, if pastors and churches, want to be irresponsible, they have no business, registering with the CAC. It's because they want to be, hence they registered. My point is, who consulted the church over this? What was the church input over this amendments?
What was the purpose and thinking of those that did this?
If they Muslims were affected, as the Christians, will Nigeria, have know any peace by now.
Prof. Yemi Osinbajo and his fellow Redeemites, in this government, have failed the church. That is why, Daddy Adeboye is not talking.

Did you read the press statement by the VP?

chaloskyx:
my own question is are mosques and places of worship by Muslims also affected by CAMA or it targets only churches

It does not target the church.

It's mainly a law for Charity and Non-Governmental Organisations.

However, religious organisations are registered under Charity and NGOs by the Corporate Affairs Commission.

So, the law applies to all religious organisations (either Christianity, Islam or whatever) registered by the Corporate Affairs Commission and the NGOs.

backnbeta:
I'm glad he actually understands that accountability is not the problem here but the fear of abuse of the law by the government agencies involved, and that has been the argument all along! If it was about being accountable alone, it wouldn't have generated do much heat. I wonder why he has not used his good office to put CAN through on what to do to correct this and he had to wait till he was asked this question by the NBA before telling them what they can do. I hope CAN does the needful soon.

Christians have become too edgy these days. Any advice given to them is tagged propanganda. Did CAN take time to go through the laws before making noise all over?

In my church, the church elders received correspondence from CAN on the matter and were already fuming that CAC wants to remove trustees without going to court. I corrected them that there is a provision for approaching the court.

CAN should tell us other means the church board of trustees can be made accountable.

Ebenezerk2:
They are very crazy, USA has more powerful bombs but they don't make mouth, they are producing them because of crazy Russia and China, anything can happen, they value no life

The US makes mouth about military prowess than any other nation.

SirMichael1:
Because the radius of the blast cannot be measured and satelights (artificial and natural) are in space.

But I thought you stated down here that it wont explode/combust?? Which one are we to believe now.

SirMichael1:
To fire, oxygen is an oxidizer. Take away oxygen from fire and the fire starves to death. If you detonate that in space without oxygen, i'm afraid that it won't explode/combust. Really, the radius of the blast is affected by the oxygen intake of the fire.

in fires, the core is the hotest part. This is so because fire absorbs oxygen to itself (its core) and expands out. The more fuel that oxygen combust/burns, the more heat in the core, the more its radius expands. That's why nothing can survive within the core of a nuclear blast.

Let's assume we provide oxygen for combustion while in space.
First, hope you know there's no gravity in space? In the earth, gravity and nitrogen gases make oxygen stay down on earth and that's why if you go higher skywards, oxygen reduces and it becomes difficult to breathe.

When the bomb is detonated, the blast will take an undefined shape but before that... first you'll see a spherical shape with a red (literally) core covered by a blue flame (more like the one from your gas cylinder). The blue flame signifies complete combustion without impurities. Now remember that on earth, oxygen is held down by gravity. In space no gravity, there's an undefined shape to which oxygen will take and whatever it takes, that is what the fire will take.

Now because there's no gravity pulling the oxygen to the fire's core, fires in space aren't as hot as it is here and they also burns slowly.

chloride6:
Putin steady giving Russians sovereign and world powers juice instead of roads, toilets and key infrastructure.

Putin indeed . He was probably in primary school when this happened.

SirMichael1:
To fire, oxygen is an oxidizer. Take away oxygen from fire and the fire starves to death. If you detonate that in space without oxygen, i'm afraid that it won't explode/combust. Really, the radius of the blast is affected by the oxygen intake of the fire.

in fires, the core is the hotest part. This is so because fire absorbs oxygen to itself (its core) and expands out. The more fuel that oxygen combust/burns, the more heat in the core, the more its radius expands. That's why nothing can survive within the core of a nuclear blast.

Let's assume we provide oxygen for combustion while in space.
First, hope you know there's no gravity in space? In the earth, gravity and nitrogen gases make oxygen stay down on earth and that's why if you go higher skywards, oxygen reduces and it becomes difficult to breathe.

When the bomb is detonated, the blast will take an undefined shape but before that... first you'll see a spherical shape with a red (literally) core covered by a blue flame (more like the one from your gas cylinder). The blue flame signifies complete combustion without impurities. Now remember that on earth, oxygen is held down by gravity. In space no gravity, there's an undefined shape to which oxygen will take and whatever it takes, that is what the fire will take.

Now because there's no gravity pulling the oxygen to the fire's core, fires in space aren't as hot as it is here and they also burns slowly.

So why is there a treaty banning testing of nuclear weapons in space?

skyhighweb1:
so if a criminal invades arrest for 13 month he or she is free shey?

there are case that go beyond 15yrs just to solve a case

Invade?

Court case is what they are talking about. Not the entire process of a crime.

And even if a criminal wilfully evades arrest, such case can be tried in absential with sufficient evidence.

Jeffy1206:
A welcome development in the right direction. Seriously there need to be a revamp in the laws that governs the courts in Nigeria.

We are a difficult set of people in Nigeria. This is reflective in how terrible all services are in this country.

Administration of justice through the courts ...nothing to write home about.

Interior services like driving license, international passport, National ID card..... terrible.

Police services... zero

Emergency and Medical services ....zero

Public services like roads, electricity, waste management, drainage services, etc... zero.

All these cuts across every body. So the problem of Nigeria is with each individual person.

AerialMapper:
Impossible!

It is ingrained in our system to use technicalities to prolong cases. I know a company that has been in court with the Corrupt Commission for 5 years! 3 judges have backed out due to the corrupt commission lawyers antics!!

So what do you suggest as the way forward?

Amspecial:
wow how time flies wen yakowa died I remember I was in Abu Zaria 500level, that was wen I knew that nigeria as a country is hopeless u need to see the jubilation from the muslims when the news fillterd in that the governor was dead a useless muslim friend of mine and course mate was so over joyed that he was celebrating while telling me about his death forgetting that I was a Christian I nearly slapped him.
education dose not cure Islamic fanaticism I have seen it.

People are so terrible. Same thing will happen today if El Rufai suffers same fate. The Christians will rejoice.

sulasa07:
It was Anthony Joshua who almost ruined Whyte's career by injuring his shoulder

That punch to the chest and slightly to the shoulder area was deadly. I have watched it over and over again.

Damn!

Anthony Joshua was super strong for that Whtye fight.

Unserious jokers!

Is he a serving VC?

If he is, does employment rules at the University permits Academics to contest elective positions before resigning?

This is a good move by Mr President.

This is how we want you to act speedily and decisively on all matters.

Requesting the Senate to also convene and elect an Acting VC amongst themselves is a deft move that will bring about peace and avoid crisis.

onatisi:
this is an necessary risk been taking by whyte , he is putting his mandatory position on the line in a one way match against one of the most consistent and technical fighter in the heavyweight category

Really big risk. But only risk takers can truly be outstanding.

If he achieves a decisive victory, he'd have positioned himself strategically for both Fury and Joshua.

kiddkash:
Dillian whyte will receive an a$$ whooping.

after his lucky win against Oscar Rivas.

I just like how he has finally being given the all clear as the next challenger to face Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder

If he loses this fight, will it affect his lining up for Fury?

BluntTheApostle:
Povetkin was a beast. I don't know about now.

I am counting on him to whoop Whyte's ass.

Very quick and strong. Somewhat fights like Mike Tyson.

Anthony Joshua kept his cool with him, otherwise, he'd have had problems.

If Whyte goes to the fight with his usual gra gra, he may be done for.

Pollosa1:
this desperate deputy governor

This is not the desperate Deputy. This is the flagbearer of the PDP. He was also their flag bearer in the last election but was defeated.

The desperate Deputy in his desperation is flying the flag of Zenith Labour Party (ZLP).