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bezimo:
You don't go to church neither are you a Christian.. so why are you interested in church matters and in removing their trustee board and pastor..if you are not a possesed demonic bastard devil..
Church trustee is part of the functioning of the church..they sanction the approval of statutory body members and church workers..and manage church money..and can write petition to head office for pastor to be removed..if you go to church you will know this things..instead of talking thrash.

You are definitely not a christian with these utterances. You are obviously someone claiming to be a christian in order to paint Christianity in bad light.

MrColdsweat:
The openness will be done by us at our own will and time.

You cannot trust this satanists who are bent on eliminating Christianity in Nigeria to modify Christianity. No way.

I don't go to church, but I know this government well enough to reject their attempt at modifying Christianity.

Like what good have the government done for the common man since 2015?

Our youths are seated at home because of strike. People are being killed every second. And your problem is to modify Christianity.

Madness!

We are complaining that you have done nothing concerning the killing of Christians and you want to tamper with Christianity.


Why can't they go and modify the barbaric death sentence and the Quran laws which conflicts with the constitution?


These people are taking us for fools. We must resist them.

We have a long history with Muslims.

They hate us. They are barbarians. We must fight them if they refuse to take their hands off Christianity.

Modify Christianity? Chai, our people perish for lack of knowledge.

bezimo:
Your Christianity has a big question mark that's if you are not confirmed fake.

I serve God in a unit in my church and i am very familiar with the board of the church and how they do things..I and will not support any law that has the tendency to undermine the functioning of the church. How can an Islamic satanic government that has promoted the killings of christians in the north put laws in place to remove trustee of a church and appoint who? And you think it's acceptable..my friend you are fake reprobate lying liar. Your Christianity is fake. No make ne vex abeg.

That churches need more openess based on what grounds and criteria? Have the government finished giving us openess in how the Nigerian money is looted and stolen..is church they now want to regulate..and you say you are Christian.. Fake..

Are you familiar with the provisions of this law? have you read it yourself to know if the allegations you are spilling are true? Study to shew yourself approved.

Under which conditions can an application be made against the Board of the Church? Will the court of law be involved in this process?

Christianity is not only about foaming in the mouth and ready to do battle. When Peter wanted to use that approach, what did our Lord say/do?

I have not in anyway abused you, and you have already abused me. Are you sure you are indeed christlike?

bezimo:
Most of these folks speaking against church on this platform based on this illconceived CAMA law..are possesed reprobate devils that hate church and pastors with so much passion..Oh you dont know!! you can't make the mistake of counting them among true Christians.. they can be aptly described like what Jesus said "brood of vipers"..bastard devils.

To take a stand does not mean one is speaking against the church. I am a christian. However, this noise over the provision governing mismanagement of the registered entity under the new CAMA is overbloated.

There is need for more openness in the way Pentecostal churches are being run.

If I asked you now if you know the Trustees of your church, I can take a wild guess that you only know either one or two out of all the persons on the Board.

Indelibleword:
Please let me ask an important question and I want anyone knowledgeable in the area with valid and concrete evidence should answer. How many mosques are registered with the CAC?

Direct your enquiry to the Registrar of the CAC.

honeyB2018:
I love to obey biblical injunctions, in dealing with elders and those in authority, if not, I would have addressed Prof. Yemi Osinbajo, in a bad light.
Is he saying, as a. Christian and pastor, he was not aware of the provisions of this Act?
If so, what is he there for?
Like I have always said here over this CAMA 2020, if pastors and churches, want to be irresponsible, they have no business, registering with the CAC. It's because they want to be, hence they registered. My point is, who consulted the church over this? What was the church input over this amendments?
What was the purpose and thinking of those that did this?
If they Muslims were affected, as the Christians, will Nigeria, have know any peace by now.
Prof. Yemi Osinbajo and his fellow Redeemites, in this government, have failed the church. That is why, Daddy Adeboye is not talking.

Did you read the press statement by the VP?

chaloskyx:
my own question is are mosques and places of worship by Muslims also affected by CAMA or it targets only churches

It does not target the church.

It's mainly a law for Charity and Non-Governmental Organisations.

However, religious organisations are registered under Charity and NGOs by the Corporate Affairs Commission.

So, the law applies to all religious organisations (either Christianity, Islam or whatever) registered by the Corporate Affairs Commission and the NGOs.

backnbeta:
I'm glad he actually understands that accountability is not the problem here but the fear of abuse of the law by the government agencies involved, and that has been the argument all along! If it was about being accountable alone, it wouldn't have generated do much heat. I wonder why he has not used his good office to put CAN through on what to do to correct this and he had to wait till he was asked this question by the NBA before telling them what they can do. I hope CAN does the needful soon.

Christians have become too edgy these days. Any advice given to them is tagged propanganda. Did CAN take time to go through the laws before making noise all over?

In my church, the church elders received correspondence from CAN on the matter and were already fuming that CAC wants to remove trustees without going to court. I corrected them that there is a provision for approaching the court.

CAN should tell us other means the church board of trustees can be made accountable.

Ebenezerk2:
They are very crazy, USA has more powerful bombs but they don't make mouth, they are producing them because of crazy Russia and China, anything can happen, they value no life

The US makes mouth about military prowess than any other nation.

SirMichael1:
Because the radius of the blast cannot be measured and satelights (artificial and natural) are in space.

But I thought you stated down here that it wont explode/combust?? Which one are we to believe now.

SirMichael1:
To fire, oxygen is an oxidizer. Take away oxygen from fire and the fire starves to death. If you detonate that in space without oxygen, i'm afraid that it won't explode/combust. Really, the radius of the blast is affected by the oxygen intake of the fire.

in fires, the core is the hotest part. This is so because fire absorbs oxygen to itself (its core) and expands out. The more fuel that oxygen combust/burns, the more heat in the core, the more its radius expands. That's why nothing can survive within the core of a nuclear blast.

Let's assume we provide oxygen for combustion while in space.
First, hope you know there's no gravity in space? In the earth, gravity and nitrogen gases make oxygen stay down on earth and that's why if you go higher skywards, oxygen reduces and it becomes difficult to breathe.

When the bomb is detonated, the blast will take an undefined shape but before that... first you'll see a spherical shape with a red (literally) core covered by a blue flame (more like the one from your gas cylinder). The blue flame signifies complete combustion without impurities. Now remember that on earth, oxygen is held down by gravity. In space no gravity, there's an undefined shape to which oxygen will take and whatever it takes, that is what the fire will take.

Now because there's no gravity pulling the oxygen to the fire's core, fires in space aren't as hot as it is here and they also burns slowly.

chloride6:
Putin steady giving Russians sovereign and world powers juice instead of roads, toilets and key infrastructure.

Putin indeed . He was probably in primary school when this happened.

SirMichael1:
To fire, oxygen is an oxidizer. Take away oxygen from fire and the fire starves to death. If you detonate that in space without oxygen, i'm afraid that it won't explode/combust. Really, the radius of the blast is affected by the oxygen intake of the fire.

in fires, the core is the hotest part. This is so because fire absorbs oxygen to itself (its core) and expands out. The more fuel that oxygen combust/burns, the more heat in the core, the more its radius expands. That's why nothing can survive within the core of a nuclear blast.

Let's assume we provide oxygen for combustion while in space.
First, hope you know there's no gravity in space? In the earth, gravity and nitrogen gases make oxygen stay down on earth and that's why if you go higher skywards, oxygen reduces and it becomes difficult to breathe.

When the bomb is detonated, the blast will take an undefined shape but before that... first you'll see a spherical shape with a red (literally) core covered by a blue flame (more like the one from your gas cylinder). The blue flame signifies complete combustion without impurities. Now remember that on earth, oxygen is held down by gravity. In space no gravity, there's an undefined shape to which oxygen will take and whatever it takes, that is what the fire will take.

Now because there's no gravity pulling the oxygen to the fire's core, fires in space aren't as hot as it is here and they also burns slowly.

So why is there a treaty banning testing of nuclear weapons in space?

skyhighweb1:
so if a criminal invades arrest for 13 month he or she is free shey?

there are case that go beyond 15yrs just to solve a case

Invade?

Court case is what they are talking about. Not the entire process of a crime.

And even if a criminal wilfully evades arrest, such case can be tried in absential with sufficient evidence.

Jeffy1206:
A welcome development in the right direction. Seriously there need to be a revamp in the laws that governs the courts in Nigeria.

We are a difficult set of people in Nigeria. This is reflective in how terrible all services are in this country.

Administration of justice through the courts ...nothing to write home about.

Interior services like driving license, international passport, National ID card..... terrible.

Police services... zero

Emergency and Medical services ....zero

Public services like roads, electricity, waste management, drainage services, etc... zero.

All these cuts across every body. So the problem of Nigeria is with each individual person.

AerialMapper:
Impossible!

It is ingrained in our system to use technicalities to prolong cases. I know a company that has been in court with the Corrupt Commission for 5 years! 3 judges have backed out due to the corrupt commission lawyers antics!!

So what do you suggest as the way forward?

Amspecial:
wow how time flies wen yakowa died I remember I was in Abu Zaria 500level, that was wen I knew that nigeria as a country is hopeless u need to see the jubilation from the muslims when the news fillterd in that the governor was dead a useless muslim friend of mine and course mate was so over joyed that he was celebrating while telling me about his death forgetting that I was a Christian I nearly slapped him.
education dose not cure Islamic fanaticism I have seen it.

People are so terrible. Same thing will happen today if El Rufai suffers same fate. The Christians will rejoice.

sulasa07:
It was Anthony Joshua who almost ruined Whyte's career by injuring his shoulder

That punch to the chest and slightly to the shoulder area was deadly. I have watched it over and over again.

Damn!

Anthony Joshua was super strong for that Whtye fight.

Unserious jokers!

Is he a serving VC?

If he is, does employment rules at the University permits Academics to contest elective positions before resigning?

This is a good move by Mr President.

This is how we want you to act speedily and decisively on all matters.

Requesting the Senate to also convene and elect an Acting VC amongst themselves is a deft move that will bring about peace and avoid crisis.

onatisi:
this is an necessary risk been taking by whyte , he is putting his mandatory position on the line in a one way match against one of the most consistent and technical fighter in the heavyweight category

Really big risk. But only risk takers can truly be outstanding.

If he achieves a decisive victory, he'd have positioned himself strategically for both Fury and Joshua.

kiddkash:
Dillian whyte will receive an a$$ whooping.

after his lucky win against Oscar Rivas.

I just like how he has finally being given the all clear as the next challenger to face Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder

If he loses this fight, will it affect his lining up for Fury?

BluntTheApostle:
Povetkin was a beast. I don't know about now.

I am counting on him to whoop Whyte's ass.

Very quick and strong. Somewhat fights like Mike Tyson.

Anthony Joshua kept his cool with him, otherwise, he'd have had problems.

If Whyte goes to the fight with his usual gra gra, he may be done for.

Pollosa1:
this desperate deputy governor

This is not the desperate Deputy. This is the flagbearer of the PDP. He was also their flag bearer in the last election but was defeated.

The desperate Deputy in his desperation is flying the flag of Zenith Labour Party (ZLP).

Light has improved. But there is still room for greater improvement if they can speed up planned projects and expansion of the grid.

The problem with federal projects in civilian Administration is just that it takes too long.

MsAllison:
NgeneUkwenu needs to hear this.
he's feeding his ignorance

You are the ignorant one here. There is a time limit to complete cases.

Ategberoson:
until appeal and supreme verdict validate the tribunal judgement before the sitting Governor can vacate the office


the incumbent will challenge the case and the worse that happened to Nigeria judiciary system, the Governor might have finished his tenure before it will even reach supreme court

all Nigeria system is polluted with a lot of discrepancies

Post-election cases in Nigeria now has a time limit of 6 months. Its now impossible for a governor to almost complete his tenure before his case is decided at the Supreme court.

etrange:
I agree with the judge's decision but you bringing up the actress' case doesn't quite help your point. First, because calling two cases the same name (in this case, manslaughter) doesn't guarantee the same outcome cause of the peculiarities of each. Second, because the idea of using a wrongly handled case as a yardstick for other possibly criminal cases is regressive. Hope you get my point.

There is what is called Judicial precedence in cases. You can use it to argue your case. There can never be two cases with virtually same circumstances and peculiarities.

If someone already found guilty for a similar offence is able to obtain bail, while appealing her sentence, there should be no reason to deny these guys their bail. simple

Except if the police charged them with an offence which is not bailable. And that is not the case here.

[quote author=Asebaba1 post=92779687][/quote]Read my comment again

SmartProf:
Can you imagine that they both pleaded not guilty and have been granted a N1million bail by the Judge who also adjourned the case. It's sad cos even if justice prevails, a Star girl is gone forever.

So what else do you want? The judge should deny them bail after spending 4 weeks in detention over manslaughter?

I remember that the Actress from Rivers state that has already been convicted of manslaughter is still lounging while appealing her case.

Ejlove4u:
how is this one news?

Is Nairaland a newspaper website? C'mon, its a forum to discuss wide range of issues.