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Eko Ile:guy u came here chatting ibo ibo, is kidnapping only happening in nnewi, what about other states of the country u need to relax with this ur tribalism, it would not take u anywhere |
Abagworo:sorry my mistake. ![]() ok how do u intend to use such information ? 1. schools and educationa institutions cause migration. for example shagamu schools in ogun state and after every hoilday, event or census, there parents are quick to take them back to the east. that can not be a good analitical tool. |
if u notice, no hausa or yoruba person is discussing on this thread because they know you people would get all angry and start call them tribalist if they do not agree with you. I though we were mature enough to have a good discussion without all this name labeling and fake numbers with facts to back it up, but then again I am labeled a bad Muslim and a tribalist for saying the Numbers don't add up ![]() na wa for una o |
odumchi:what true colour is there any tribalism in my post or did i insult any group ![]() I am happy u said we have discuss this over an over again Now the cencus said lagos is 9 million ohaneze is saying lagos is 18-19 million ![]() lagos and indeed all lagosians are saying igbos traveled to the east back for census which Obi Nwakanma comfimed Ohaneze is saying even in that 43% is igbo while u are saying 7.3 million andre is saying 4 million NOW MY QUESTION IS What should I believe, there are so many figure and i have analysis each one OR should i not object to such figures if they are wrong AGAIN I DON'T CARE IF IGBOS ARE THE MOST POPULOUS IN AFRICA AND INDEED THE WORLD what does that profit me or you. All i am asking is where are you people getting this figures from Have ohanez or andre or you done an ethnic cencus in Nigeria and IF YES CAN U SCAN A COPY SO WE CAN SEE. all this guess work does not cut it for me. and u can not I should not object to very wrong numbers all in the name "i don't want to be called a tribalist" If U ARE HONEST with urself the u would see there is no tribalism in my discussion |
quote from odumchi Secondly, the amount of non-Igbo people in Igboland does not reach 50,000. Igboland is the second most densly populate dplace in Africa after the Nile valley whether you like it or not. There are also in excess of 40 million Igbos in Nigeria. Thirdly, I dont really care what percentage of Lagos Igbos are as long as the 7.3 million Igbos in Lagos are recognized. Focus on the thread. u say igboland is the most densly populated after nile which i agree then u say igbos are 7.3 million in lagos, thus almost twice the most densly populated state of anambra of 4.2 million lagos state is 9 million thus we have 1.7 million other nigerians left in lagos thus lagos is an igbo speaking enivrnment/pidgn language i dey laff o, read is see how stu.pid u sound ( no insult intended but this is just some stu.pid analysis)abagworo say 18% of osun is igbo from 1 school he assumed that figure. during 2006 census it was recorded how igbos left the north and SW for the east to inflate there numbers even my neighbour who has spent 20 or more years with me did the same with his 5 children and wife. yet u expect to beive that even after the migration that ere are still 70% igbos in lagos yet lagos is still a yoruba speaking enivronment Unbelievable ![]() |
odumchi:SMH andre is saying 4 million ohaneze is saying 40-60% you are saying 7.3 million lagos and the people of lagos are saying there were no single igbos in the state duing he count that is why u are putting burden on the state after the migration back So according to u an andre, I should accept the falsehood u are feeding people without facts REALLY I PITY NIGERIA can u please tell us where u got the 7.3 million from ? enough of this nonsense, To Nigerians out there Please and please do not believe this rubbish of billions of igbo crap all over the internet |
Abagworo:on the second thought i would say that is a very very wrong way of analysis i mean are u aware of the migratry effect igbos do every christmas , new year, easter and census The last census u need to see how alaba, sabon gari was cleared, lagos state lost millions not becasue of igbos but because after the census they would share this money on the people that are coming back. again migratiry effect is another reason. this is after all the igbos from the country went back to the SE for counting https://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/5mbebe/NigSouth06Census.jpg take ur try and read this http://www.nigeria-planet.com/nig_census_lagos_n_igbo.html |
Abagworo:lol OK brother. |
Oh yes before I go Odumchi it does not matter which has the highest population, lets say tomorrow an ethnic census is done and igbos happen to be 70% of nigeria population, What would it add or take away from igbos. Nothing Now we are 1 Nation and that is what matter. all this ( we have more igbos in edo than edo themselves) would not help the country. or 60% of lagos is igbo, 40-50% of kano and kaduna is igbo etc would not help this country grow we say we want to remove tribalism from this country, First thing is to stop all this counting everysingle igbo ideology for what profit does it give u even the so called hausa/fulani or 28% and yoruba of 21%, what have they achieved for this country. Nothing there are more yorubas in Uk but more igbos in usa i dey laff o. as if that is an achievement. it just shows us that but yorubas and igbos are suffering very much in nigeria. I mean why do they migrate to those countries if not that Nigeria is like hell for themwhether ika,ikwerre etc are igbos or apoi ijaw, itsekiri etc are yoruba is not material at all as it would not improve the lives of a common igbo man or common yoruba man if igbos are 70% of lagos and indeed this country and there is no killing then it is a very good sign that Nigeria is getting better/detribalised. I see no problem in this maybe very soon igbos would be 90%, who knows but telling us how populous u are by assumsions and guess work is not the way to go about thingsif the yorubas or hausa/fulani use the same method, you would be the first to stop them. I am not saying this alone for NL igbos but all the igbos out there. |
[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=733755.msg8939412#msg8939412 date=1313534281]Funny thing is that NONE of the links you posted had Itsekiris claiming they are Yoruba. Try this. AN actual source from Itsekiri themselves: http://www.itsekiri.org/files/history/history.php O so we are going off of YOUR personal experience(which is even questionable),lol? Nothing to back up what you said,right? Exactly. Wrong, yorubas were said to be more home bound and igbos more spread out and found in large numbers in the north. The Europeans has noted this time after time. In fact, forget europeans, your former politicians as as far back as the 50s even noted that,lol. Funny, Did i tell u i didnt live in the north? and is the North 1 state? i guess you've been everywhere including everyone's home in the north, ![]() So you insulted yourself by posting this link and you didnt even catch it. The article is saying, there is NO SUCH YORUBA INFLUENCE IN CROSS RIVER STATE SO YOU(the yoruba girl) BETTER GET WITH THE PROGRAM,lol Quote from the article: The Yoruba gari, which is fermented far longer, is reserved mainly for drinking and interestingly is something of a delicacy. In the South-South, both raw gari and cooked gari are called gari. To the Yoruba, raw gari is gari and cooked gari is eba. So the joke is on the Yoruba who do not understand that there is an art to the eating of rocks. In fact the article doesnt even relate or make sense. Are you ok? I know. It's a part of my free education package to you. http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=igbo+slaves+in+sierra+leone&fr=fptb-tyc-s&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=igbo+slaves+in+sierra+leone&d=4784907360734182&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=a00d2913,cb46e84c&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=JQHdmOS0zqDjdqkEB8OkKA-- There's more btw, google it. ![]() So we both can agree this is crap. Same can be said about the Ika and Ikwerre because the Apoi-IJAW are an Ijaw clan, not a yoruba clan. Ika and Ikwere are Igbo clans. ![]() Haba! [/quote] ![]() that is why i like discussing with u, funny man i sha no go gree (seriously laughing) really i have nothing to say. Yes igbos are the most populous group OR atleast more than the yorubas ![]() atleast we ended up laughing insisted of insulting each other as andre was about taking it to. Ok brother I did 4 analysis in the previous pages 1&2 showing yorubas are more than igbos 3 showing hausa/fulani there the most populous group in nigeria 4 igbos are more than yorubas. either way we can agree to disagree brother and that is how Nl is meant to be. lastly i don't want to go inot this ika ikwerre thing as this would make andre and I enemies for life i would give him today |
well said abikan at least some of my Yoruba /southern brothers have brainsthis was done in 1963 where awo was still there i see nothing wrong in it extenting to the south, ie south-south, south-west, south east this would aid buisnesses as after they borrow money they would not have to worry about the intreset gain from the loan very good for buisness my brothers |
Ibadan: An Islamic Scholar and University of Ilorin Lecturer, Dr Ibraheem Abikan, has disclosed that Islamic banking was first licenced in the South-West zone in 1963. Abikan made the disclosure on Monday in Ibadan while delivering the 13th Ramadan Lecture entitled “Viability of Islamic Banking in Nigeria, Issues, Challenges and Prospects”. The event was organised by the Muslim Lawyers Association of Nigeria (MULAN), Oyo State branch. He said that the bank was then known as “Muslim Bank of West Africa“ and was licenced under the regulatory body of the financial institution of the era. The lecturer explained that the licence was later withdrawn by the authorities of the then Western region barely after four years of operation. Abikan said that it was unfortunate that the government at the region did not allow the bank to operate fully. He said, “unlike the fixed deposit account that operates in the conventional banks, Islamic banking only allows for the general purpose investment account”. According to him, general purpose account encourages distribution of wealth according to the profit or loss made by the bank on every investment it undertakes with the active backing of the shareholders on its deposit. The bank, according to him, was interest-free and was capable of giving a leap to Nigeria’s socio-economic advancement as being witnessed in other countries. The lecturer admonished those criticising the CBN Governor, Mr Lamido Sanusi to be fair on their criticisms and allow the bank to operate and see whether the wide gap between the rich and the poor would not be drastically reduced. He called on all Nigerians to do away with sentiments and give the bank a chance. The Chairman of MULAN, Tajudeen Abdul-Ganiyu, said the lecture was chosen on the need to enlighten the public on why Islam forbade interest-taking by the banks, saying “Islam totally forbids interest on loan”. (NAN) http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/08/islamic-banking-licenced-in-southwest-in-1963-don/ |
Andre Uweh:again I am not lying, I did not post anything without backup u are the one posting without real figures brother ![]() post with links and facts with analysis not just saying out of ur head that Igbos are 1 million here while yorubas are 80,000 there where did u come to the conclusion, or are u an emulator or census officerspeople have done this accession before and i am using there figures and Ohaneze figures to do my discussion. u are using figures from ur head. ![]() no brother who is lying |
[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=733755.msg8938551#msg8938551 date=1313526784]I was going to stay out of this but you mentioned my state and talked falsely about it. 1. Yorubas are not in Delta State,period. If you want to include itsekiri(they never said they are yoruba btw) they are still no way near the population of Igbos in Delta state-FACT. 2. Yorubas are nowhere at par of close to the population of Igbos in Rivers state. Rivers is an Igbo stay, dont forget that. 3. Yorubas being more than the Igbos in the NW and NE, i laugh out loud because even history books made it clear that Ndigbo was the most populous southern group in the north since the 60s, unless im missing something . Unless there was a mass exodus of yorubas to the north some time recently. Sure there are millions of yorubas in the north but not as many as Igbo-FACT.4. Cross Rivers State? You're not even serious. ![]() 5. Never and will never have more yorubas than Igbos. We flocked there in the thousands and we also have indigenous Igbos there. Now as for the Governor Saswam, he congratualted and honored Ndigbo for bring staunch economic enhancement to the state. I know this because I posted an article on it. GO into the search engine. ![]() 6. 12% of the slave brought to Sierra Leone were Ndigbo-FACT . These Igbos brought there were dedicated to their clan and did not come to know themselves being under a classification of "Igbo". Check out Isuama. 7. Ethnic census in 1991 Which president did this and what census organization? Where are the results of each of the non-indigenous ethnic groups per state? There must have been a video of this announcement, where is the video? Lets compare these numbers with the appropriate voting age of those who voted during the 1993 presidential election.Even though that is a little stretch at least we are working with something and can weed things out.8. Igala, Nupe, Apoi-IJAW are not yoruba! Stop claiming groups. Itsekiri is fine but the others,especially Nupe are no-nos.(We aint taking about relation brotha). 9. Opobo was never counted as Igbo so stop lying. 10. Stop all the nonsense lets not make gross claims,especially when facts are all over the net. I'm not saying a whole population of one group is more than the other but lets get serious,dued.[/quote]Lol chyz chyz chyz1. some itsekiri claim to be yoruba. again i don't post without facts They have never claimed to be Binis or even to be an Edoid people. They claim Yoruba roots. Is Omoruyi saying that they should forego their linguistic and DNA-based ethnic heritage and move with their king to reclaim his Benin ancestry? This is an instance in which what is good for the Olu may not be good for the Itsekiri people. http://www.waado.org/organizations/uhs/debates/edowa/ekeh_edowa.html http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/08/yoruba-itsekiri-to-strengthen-ties/ http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CS0h4Ye9puUC&pg=PA311&lpg=PA311&dq=itsekiri+yoruba&source=bl&ots=c9y6eJ4M9L&sig=sXpcM1ld8jCIVrFw6VZn9vdtWMI&hl=en&ei=cNZKTrKqIcXLhAf0qKyOCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCAQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&q=itsekiri%20yoruba&f=false etc really i don tire 2. yes they are more than Igbos due to personal expreience in the state 3. history books wrote igbos were in the north and did not talk of yorubas in the north.Again unless u have lived int he north there is no really point in me discussing with u here. history books did not put that there are hausa people more than igbos in the state (lagos) 4. cross river has more yorubas than igbos to the extent that there are cutural infulence http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/ArtsandCulture/Cuisine/5484911-147/story.csp 5. Lol again chyz that is why i ike discussing with u6. there is nothing like igbo in serri leano a serri leanoian comfimed so and history but as USUAL people like andre ohaneze are quick to claim there is nothing like igbo in serri leano history unless we go to nigeria were you people feed us lies. again i stand to be corrected7. http://www.amstat.org/sections/srms/proceedings/y2007/Files/JSM2007-000561.pdf ( don't have much internet credit) ![]() 8. again as i said apoi ijaw etc were never counted as yoruba, but groups like apoi ijaw chose to relate with yoruba, no one is forcing them but same can not be said of Ika and ikwerre u people fight and force for them to say they are igbos. sahara reporter owner is apoi ijaw, yet a stu.pid man open a topic to say "igbo is not under yoruba colone sahara reporters as if it is owned by a yoruba man http://nigeriamasterweb.com/blog/index.php/2011/06/07/saharareporters-a-tool-of-yoruba-colonization-of-ndigbo abi apoi ijaw is yoruba as well you can see that EMEKA is sick ![]() 9. http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/3624-igbos-quest-annex-niger-delta.html 10. I was serious when I did my first and second post on this thread but if Andre is not serious with it as he kept claiming and suggesting without reading my analysis and counter analysis it then i can as well piss him off tonight no offence my brother. You are a nice Guy only trying to defend Igbos as a people but I need to set things straight to aviod revisionist ( for example 60-70% of igbos is lagos etc) ![]() |
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ChinenyeN:using the numbers of edo, ijaw, etc and how well i see them when compare to igbos in the north and SW |
ezeagu:very very wrong brother yorubas live in densely parked laces, igbos wide spread |
Andre Uweh:badagry festac alaba igbos are more than yorubas if u believe mushin, mile 12, idumota , sabo-yaba market hausa are more than yorubas brother what are you getting at. this people are more than igbos haba. unless u give me a comprehensive analysis to prove otherwise then i stand by my analysis and trust me all this suggestions and guess work u are doing does not cut it for me Yorubas are more than igbos in the Nw and NE, edo, delta, at par in rivers and cross river state, more south africa saudi arabia russia norway, ireland, canada, ghana etc i stand to be corrected again all this ur half baked guesses and suggestions does not cut it for me. A man named emeka osaze is not igbo a man names oladeji ajoa is not yoruba in edo state so stop this rubbish talk brother ![]() again benue state has more yorubas in it than igbos, i stand to be corrected and that is why the governor wanted more igbos in the state for fedral charcter again even in the Usa i would say they out number the igbos again even just ekiti people are more than igbos in Usa. i stand to be corrected http://africa.world247.net/nigeria-news/yoruba-in-benue-laud-obasanjo/ South america and carribean islands is there world and i am sure you know this. this are indigenes who still call themselves yorubas serri leano is the same story. there are more yorubas than igbos, even Mukina2 comfirmed it that there is Nothing like igbo in serria leano maybe u beat them in cameroun and gabon but that is it. even at that the hausa/fulani population beat u there. again i stand to be corrected ![]() the last strong hold is awka ibom, and 5 SE states guy please don't let me sound tribalistic again o andre i don't want to keep arguing with u because i know after this, u would still reply to say igbos are more but I have shown you in the prevoius page that it is a lie. there was an ethnic census 1991 that found igbos to be 18% ( WHICH IS QUESTIONABLE) because ikwerri, ika etc were all counted as igbo then but not now. yorubas were found to be 21% without igala,akoko edo , apoi ijaw, nupe, itsekiri etc been counted and i am sure now they would hausa/fulani were 28% but the fulani in kwara etc were not counted but now the would be counted opobo was counted as igbo but now it would be ijaw brother u hope this does not make u angry but this is the truth. |
mosalab:what i was waiting for with BRT there is No tinubu . this is a fact @ Musiwa go for it, tinubu is a nobody in the SW CIROMA is a nobody in the north go for it, but remember the masses and be God fearing |
Andre Uweh:Lol i have been to abeokuta, ibadan , offa, igbomina, kabba, lagos, akure, warri, port harcourt, calabar, nnewi, in the south. I don't do school but business We are not talking about the south but Nigeria but even without kwara and kogi, igbos are NOT THE LARGEST Ethnic group in the South. Get this, don't tell me things I know of. Igbos are not more than yorubasor even the SS groups Again the largest igbo population is in lagos and the highest igbo concentration is in lagos, thus I have come to the conclusion that igbo population is very very small but wide spread more like fulanis Edo people or more than igbos in lagos, hausa as well then again show me any igbos town as populated and concentrated as Oyo not to even talk of lagos [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRizLtsJuxyfb9g1-FG3YYGHSJCQt5vJZ7nfIWuSTVUd7xkgew[/img] unless u want to tell me that they are all igbos too [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTibf3I7fVKhLnqG20EcHGvu2V9E7cHiqrcl1yOFiCD4ym8G7k[/img] igbos as well [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQevpBXz8vnbslwhFGJNv3SD1gjNB-2XV2UzZlC06jhpTBp2hsXwA[/img] [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRa561x-SyXYANKIskNH5970LQtwGrvIXXtZsR5JSFiwQFNKx41[/img] Back to lagos (lagoon/eko/oko) are this people igbos as well, i mean 4-6 million out of 9 million are igbos [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQD6pD56U5BBiO9bBqeSECwT2-MrY18BDdxMV6q0kGrgZwDwDN8[/img] [img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9v6fxP9VIEdAEDTOvCKEn-LXURnXutSdtDzc53GE_cZIHV6S-YoVWcpxw[/img] notice the hausa/fulani/kanuri are more than igbos in lagos [img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5kFXy1g9pS9vmuW07OzRdJOngNHDnVhrueyYT61r1AhfFoZ6tdA[/img] are they all igbos as well [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhT9DZ_nKuhJ4aP1GCp9cSUNAjFvT2-y6IToVNzUbwKVSgFJNNCA[/img] hausa again [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUtwTKhrqOAGpH2tNxmBQXY9VOPAqYWTJskXLTL8Q6WLqKqksffQ[/img] [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyvUjZYJgdORQm-6bltn_6nzvX7N3lvw-BHgdYMf2TtzAzGrub[/img] igbos as well andre please and please i am done with this topic, i knew u would keep arguing as ur ego would not allow you to think well brother how was ur day ![]() |
also I would like to give Andre this about Kogi state gotten from kogi state website Kogi state came into being as a result of the state creation exercise on 27th of August, 1991 with the administrative headquarters in Lokoja. The creation of the state was indeed a significant development for its citizens. This is because it brought about the reunion of a people who had shared historical roots and co-existed peacefully with the former Kabba province in the defunct Northern Region for more than 80 years. The state which is structured into 21 LGA’s comprises of three major ethnic groups i.e. Igala, Ebira and Okun (Yoruba) other minor groups include – Bassa Komo, Bassa Nge, Kakanda, Kupa, Ogori-Magongo, Nupe, Oworo, Gwari etc. There are 8 languages spoken as first language in Kogi State. Ebira, Igala, Nupe and Yoruba are major languages. The other languages are minority languages. The state was formed in 1991 from parts of Kwara State and Benue State. The State as presently constituted comprises the peoples of the defunct Kabba Province of Northern Nigeria. There are four main ethnic groups and languages in Kogi: Igala, Ebira, Okun ( Yoruba), Bassa and Yagba(Yoruba) http://www.kogistatenigeria.org/aboutus.htm https://www.kogistatenigeria.org/map_01.gif that is Kogi for you also Kwara state The principal groups residing in Kwara State are the Yoruba, Nupe, Bariba and Fulani. The skilled craftsmanship of the people of this central region has been evident for centuries. The, largest and most important pottery workshops in Nigeria can be found in the capital city of Ilorin. Proponents of the craft of traditional textile weaving are also very prominent: the Aso Oke style of hand-loomed cloth-making is world renowned. http://www.kwarastate.gov.ng/about-kwara-state.html Kwara State is one of the 36 states of Nigeria. Its capital is Ilorin and its governor is Bukola Saraki. The primary ethnic group of Kwara State is Yoruba, with significant Nupe, Bariba and Fulani minorities. http://www.speakersoffice.gov.ng/constituencies_kwara.htm andre kwara and kogi are yoruba states in the north with other groups such as fulanis, igala, nupe etc and even them admit to this even I know this , that is if you have been to those states ![]() trying to say is not a yoruba state is not being honest with urself, Yes it is a northern state with yoruba population Ramadan kareem to u too my brother ![]() |
oludashmi:LOL ramadan kareem my sisterI know if i kept posting on this topic, it would never ever end as Andre Uweh is not ready to learn from fact insisted of predictions made by him. ![]() Again I always tought the igbos had a large population until i did the analysis myself and found out the the largest igbo population and concentration is in Lagos. That got me to know there population of 18% is very very questionable. Not withstanding i would like this topic to end as I would be seen as ,.,.,.,., u know Nl now ![]() odumchi:very correct, but if u then add up Oyo and ondo/ osun then it does ![]() moreover kwara and kogi are also large states as well (although north) ![]() just pulling ur legs again |
KnowAll:gbammmm ACN this ACN that lets see all the economic integration they have said they want to do railway ![]() interstate bus ![]() joint economy of states etcabeg make pesin here word |
presido1:presido, u be rochas ![]() |
Onlytruth:1. it passes through ogun, ondo, edo , cuts down to warri, balysea, rivers, akwaibom then calabar OR 2. pass through ogun, ondo, ekiti, edo,kwara, kogi, benue then cross river either way is good just Pulling your legs brother |
otapiapia:Really No reason only that we should still give him time to see if he is the really deal I believe after a year or 2 we can have a clear assertion of what his goals are |
[quote author=kay-one link=topic=734751.msg8933816#msg8933816 date=1313488845]Rochas, may u live long . . .[/quote]Amen to that really impressive I must say kudos Rochas. Just hope you are for really |
good one i was actually expecting the language to be yoruba alone but since they added hausa and igbo then more grease to there elbow , it shows Nigerians are united in Nigeria and we are very talentedif only our government to invest in us insisted of taking there money abroad |
ak47mann: my brother i left that life I am new nowi see the folly in tribalism, and it is stu.pidity my brothers are Nigerians whether hausa/igbo/yoruba etc. ![]() i avoid tribalism now |
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