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All u guys so happy about the sack and eviction of doctors, hip hip hurray for you. No doctor can ever starve, they may go through hard times for a while but there will always be a demand for them somewhere. Some may relocate to other sates, some may move into the private sector, a few may go abroad. Those who were already into private practice will just face their practice. This is a wake up call for doctors as far as I am concerned, we should all prepare ourselves for any eventuality.
In 2007 the military unceremoniously retired so many members of their medical corps, doctors many of whom were consultants. One who was a personal friend was crying cos he never expected it and didn't even have money to pay rent for himself. Being a military man PP wasn't allowed and he didn't have any other source of income. Thank God for his wife they werevable to tide over the bad times. Now he has a thriving practice in Abulja and the kind of equipment the military hospitals will not have in the next decade. Meanwhile the same military that retired him now pays him to operate on their senior officers. One surgery costs them over 3 x what they would be paying him as a monthly salary. You know who is suffering, those junior officers and soldiers whom he was treating at no extra cost to them. All the big ogas anywhere in the country are flown tomsee him.
The same thing will happen here. All those in government when they have problems will use government money and pay to see the same doctors they have sacked nd government will pay. While those who would have gotten relatively inexpensive care will languish.
Anyway let's pop some champagne the doctors have been sacked and evicted, hip hip hip hurray!

How many of us complaining will pay good money to watch the movie. We will wait to download it free from the Internet or buy the pirated copies. The producer is thinking of his paying Market and they would rather pay to watch known names even if they are not A listers and whom they can understand. Do you think that if they had used a Rwandan with a nice thick Rwandan accent to act Hotel Rwanda it would have sold in America

Buhari and Idiagbon sacked doctors and evicted them from their quarters years ago. That led to the first wave of Nigerian doctors going to Saudi Arabia, those that didn't leave the country ended up Setting up private hospitals like Lagoon, Havana, Eko hospitals and the truth is they ended up better than the few who stayed behind to salvage the situation. But karma is an ass, the day Idiagbon died, he was rushed to University of Ilorin teaching hospital but alas doctors were on strike for the same reasons they had been on strike when he sacked them previously and we all know how that his story ended.
I am not God and I don't know how my own life will turn out, but I know personally I work hard and I am not one of the 100 hardest working doctors in LASUTH. At a recent accreditation exercise for the post graduate studies carried out in LASUTH, the team could not believe the number of patients we claimed to have seen in the last 3 years vis a vis the number of doctors in our unit. They insisted on going through the patients registers and checking things themselves. And the funny thing is my department is considered a light duty department by other doctors working in the hospital. So if anybody now decides that we are all stupid, greedy, incompetent murderers, good for them.
So continue abusing Nigerian doctors, jubilating over their sack, in fact have a street part and pop champagne.

I learnt early in my career never to take official accommodation, it's a useless trap which can be used as a tool for blackmail. It's even worse when you are a senior personnel. This isn't the first time Lagos state has kicked out doctors from their accommodation and it won't be the last.

Thanks iconic s, I can't believe what I was doing to myself. Since the strike started I have left my house on 4 occasions only and yet just climbing the stairs makes me breathless. If not for the strike/ sack I would still have been forcing myself to go to work because we were short staffed. As you said it is all working for my good.
I just watched channels news and they confirmed what I said I saw in LASUTH on Thursday, despite all the propaganda about new doctors covering the emergencies the place looked like a ghost town. They filmed the medical and surgical emergencies on Friday and saw no doctors, nil, nada, zero. If half the sacked docs are from LASUTH I would expect half the new docs to be sent to LASUTH. 150 doctors there will at least get the emergencies up and running that is more than the 10 or so are usually on duty there at any given time. They would be able to give first aid and maybe then refer to LUTH or FMC Ebutte Metta.

I have time to sit and peruse nairaland and reply to threads because I have been sacked. Otherwise I would just be closing from clinic and then going to the wards to check on patients before closing for the day. If I was on call only God knows what time I would have gotten home today. So am I sad and crying right now. Not at all, I have been on my bed all day resting , with my feet raised on a pillow, my Bp that was going up has come down since last week, I am heavily pregnant and have been doing two people's job for the last 7 months. Even my bosses advised me to take leave of absence and go and rest but I didn't because there would have been nobody to replace me, so I decided to work until my body says no. But now I have been sacked my conscience is clear I don't owe any patient in my FORMER office anything more than I owe a patient in the clinic down the road. And what they could take away was a salary, they didn't take any off the certificates I have worked for neither did they take the equipment I saved to buy with my own money and have been using on their patients. It's not easy for anybody adjusting to being sacked but we won't be the first and we definitely won't be the last. life goes on.
If by any miracle we are called back today I will quietly take leave without pay and sit in my house. All these threads have shown me is that Nigerian populace isn't worth killing oneself over. See how happy people are over doctors misfortune.

chuks49: Had the Doctors gone on strike to protest these issues you raised they would have garnered enough public sympathy and the storey today would have been different, instead they rather sacrifice their sick patients in the alter of negotiation.

Why would I protest, if my relative is ill do you think he is going to the general ward or CCU. Or do you think I will send my relation to the general lab or BT diagnostics? I would rather pay through my nose for good health care than for a jeep. People want free health and free education. Nobody wants to ask questions about the quality. Why dont government officials line up for the free health camps they set up for the masses, or wear the free cheap glasses they distribute to the masses. Because they know they are inferior.But they score cheap points with the public. Why does a doctor in a good private hospital spend 30 minutes listening to your problems and explaining your illness to you. Because you paid for his time and he doesn't have another 50 patients waiting in line for his attention. The masses love cheap things and that's what government is giving you. The doctors on the other hand just want to be paid what this same government promised to pay 2 years ago and defaulted.

Oh and for those asking what will happen if the new doctors go on strike ? The answer is foreign docs whom they will pay higher salaries and them justify privatising the health sector. Already they have started The BT diagnostic lab( BT stands for Bola Tinubu) inside LASUTH is a 'state of the art' laboratory/ diagnostic centre in the hospital. The prices for investigations there more than double those in the hospital labs. The staff of the centre are paid almost double what other staff in the hospital are paid. And while that place thrives, the hospitals labs and Xrays department have been left to rot.
From January this year the theatre in LASUTH has had problems with electricity so surgeries have been cancelled or postponed and most surgeons there were frustrated. Not so for the CCU, a private ward with it's own theatre and ICU run by a certain Dr Tinubu. If you have the cash you can get any surgery done there for a minimum of about 300k. Presnsently while the rest of the hospital is groaning under the lack of bed space they are building a 3 storey structure for CCU. This is where government officials are usually admitted when they have problems before being flown out of the country.
That will be the fate of LAGOS state health services.

I always identify myself as one of those useless, greedy doctors many are cussing out here. I was in LASUTH yesterday to pick up my personal instruments which I normally keep there in case of emergencies and I didn't see any sign of normalcy. No clinics were running, there were a few people loitering outside A and E but the theatre was quiet, no surgeries can take place because there are no anaesthetist to put people to sleep. About half the doctors sacked are from LASUTH so if you want a good idea of what is going on go there first. Nearly all the consultants were affected by the sack and the few who were on leave cannot work because they need their resident doctors. I know of a consultant that worked through the 3 day warning strike and was still working until the day the sack letters were issued. At that point she went home, she rightly noted that since she was sacked she had no legal backing to continue to see any patient. Because rightly or wrongly If anything happened to a patient now she can be sued and she has no defence. Humanitarianism is no defence. There were other doctors not all that were sneaking in to see patients in places like ICU but they have all stopped. I am not trying to justify the strike to anybody, he who wears the shoe knows how it pinches . As for kicking people out of their homes, less than 5% of doctors had quarters and while it is painful for those affected it serves as a lesson for other doctors, never take official accommodation. It's just a tool for blackmail.

Hey let's call it a truce all we useless doctors have been sacked and new doctors are being employed. So you already have our heads on a platter .the strike is over, sacked staff cannot strike.

[quote author=seleroms]Clap for yourself. So what message have you passed across or what is the aim of this post of yours?[/quote
That while you guys are hailing government for sacking doctors, these guys make sure they have access to the same doctors in case they have problems of their own.

I laugh in Chinese, I am one of the sacked doctors and I laugh at those jubilating over the sack of doctors. For your information all those big guns in Alausa have access to the phone numbers of all sacked consultants. So while the common man waits for the newly employed doctors to treat them, the Alausa guys call the consultants and make arrangements to see them privately and are ready to pay through the nose for this service. By the time they fly abroad they have already received the best care possible here cos they have the cash to pay- your cash.

I am one of the sacked doctors and for those that say good for us I say thank you. My department in LASUTH had 4 consultants and 3 residents, while the corresponding department in LUTH had 4 consultants and 18 residents. We have been trying to attract young doctors to join the department but nobody wants to come because of the unusually heavy workload and low pay compared to other teaching hospitals. So now they have sacked us I wonder where they will get the willing horses to do the work. Lagos state health service had only one active neurosurgeon and 2 cardiothoracic surgeons who have also been sacked. I guess they will bring in some Indians who will agree to earn half of what they were earning. Residents in LUTH and other teaching hospitals get accommodation in the hospital premises while those inLASUTH are expected to sleep in their cars when rooms are full and in some units if they are alone may be on call for a whole month at a stretch. Anyway persoally I welcome the rest for the past one year I have been doing my job plus the job of a collegue who was on study leave. I could have refused to see his patients and nobody could have done me jack but I chose to cos I felt it wasn't their fault. Now my phone has been ringing off the hook the same patients are begging to see me privately and unfortunately for them, I have health isssues for which I would rather rest than take their money.

Technically the strike is over, as we speak Lagos State is in the process of sacking the striking doctors. So the public should wait for the new doctors that are going to be employed or the foreign doctors that will come for health camps, or pay for private hospitals.

Hi Beneli, nice to see you are still on this thread. Keep up with the good work of being a mentor to our younger colleagues. God bless you for that.

I once had a nasty experience with my BIL,he came unannounced when already had 2 other in laws one who was very ill and needed extra care in the house with me. No problem. The same day he arrived an unknown babe came to the house and sent the night, no problem. The next day I came back from work and met yet another girl in my house. Because there were already guest he was sleeping in my room and the next morning this girl was wearing my nightie. He is older than my husband who was not in town the day he arrived, so I kept my mouth shut till my husband arrived the 2nd evening.I then told my husband that I would tolerate a lot but not anyone using my matrimonial home as a brothel, he had a talk with his brother and the girl left the following day as it was already late when my husband returned. After that I could do nothing right, my peices of meat were too small. I sat at table without waiting for him, I greeted him one kind in the morning, the list went on and on. Meanwhile this guy came into the country from UK,didn't bring as much as a pin for my husband, hid milk, juice and cereals in his room and only brought them out when he finished what was in my fridge and pantry. At a time he wanted to take my car to go visit his friends when he knew that my other in law had a hospital appointment and said I should take the man to hospital in a taxi. My husband and I don't even share soap or towels, but this my lovely BIL's girlfriends were using my nightwear, towels, soap and cosmetics. I threw away a couple of things after his visit, i couldnt bring myself to use them again. After about 2 weeks he moved out to a hotel cos even his own sister refused to have him stay in her house with his girlfriends which she said her husband would find insulting.but I was still blamed for making him uncomfortable in his brothers own house.
Some in laws can take the piss. He stopped talking to me for almost a year and boy was I glad. I had my peace. We have made up now and I don't know what his brother said to him he treats my home with much more respect cos he comes into town almost every 6 months and spends about 2 to 4 weeks with us. The only thing I do is when I know he is coming I jack my husband for extra housekeeping so that his brother can eat big big meat. Shebi the size of my meat was one of the things he complained of.

The commonest cause of your symptoms is called Globus Pharyngeus. It is a sensation of a foreign body in the throat in the absence of any physical obstruction and is quite common. It is usually quite harmless although uncomfortable condition and stressing over it makes it worse. It is not caused by worms neither is it the usual sign of cancer of the throat. See an ENT surgeon who will examine your throat and reassure you that all is well. You may be placed on mild muscle relaxants to help you relax. Forcing yourself to throw up and trying to touch the area will just make the sensation worse as the muscles in that area called the cricopharyngeus will just go into spasms.

How short our memories are, we have all forgotten the Apo 6 and that it was the same Zakari Biu that ordered him shot and then escaped before he could be persecuted. It is so obvious that that crime has been forgotten and he will never pay for it.

A few  years ago I worked with this extremely spiritual collegue, a lady who  wore no earrings, had her hair in shukwu , dressed very drably. Meanwhile she was always off to one church related function or crusade or prayer meeting and the rest of us in the office were always covering up for her and generally doing her duties. The day I went to her house I almost fainted because her wedding photos showed a beautiful young lady very unlike the person I was working with. I also met the husband who looked like a regular kind of guy nothing flashy or nerdy just regular. I recently met her cos I left that environment about 3 years ago and made the mistake of asking of her husband, apparently they had separated. The curses she poured on the man were something else, when I finally asked what the reason was she said he was talking nonsense about no longer being the woman he married and that he was tired of living like a stranger in his own house.

I live in Mende Maryland less than a kilometre from the mini waterworks in that area which was commissioned about 2 years ago. I still rely on a borehole for water. My business premise is on the same street as the water works and there we rely on well water. So for me this does not impress me.

Hbabe, pele dear. Asking for advice on nairaland can get you a mixed bag of reactions some good, some bad and some downright ugly. But the most important thing is to sit with your husband and discuss what will be best for you two. What works for couple A does not always work for couple B. I have been married for over 10 years and have had a maid for most of the time. My husband only  started doing the laundry (with a washing machine please) 2 years ago because I was  ill and bed  bound and he couldn't imagine anyone else touching his underwear. But since then he took that chore as his own and still does the laundry . Other than that the only thing he ever does is to feed his dog and bath it when it gets too smelly and I refuse to allow it in my house. My working hours can be eratic, I am a surgeon and can be called out of the house at any time, to make matters worse my husband travels a lot and feels more at ease if there is another adult in the house when he is not around. For about 6 months last year I did not have any help and my husband was miserable because I was too tired at the end of every day to sit and gist with him. I'm used to my house being spotless and would not rest till every thing was done. So I was no longer available to watch FCBarcelona play and analyse the match with him or stay up till 2 am to watch the American superbowl. Neither did I want to go out at weekends cos there was so much to do at home. In the end he started asking all his sisters and mine to get us a house help. There were just 2 ground rules he insisted on , one was that no house help came into our bedroom and that once I was around I personally served his food.

house help.

Since 1948 most doctors stopped taking the Hippocratic oath, What is now said is the physicians oath. Most people who shout Hippocratic oath have absolutely no knowledge of what is actually in the oath and expect Nigerian Doctors to behave like the missionary doctors that introduced orrery medicine to Africa. We forget that those people came here to spread the gospel as their primary motive using medicine as the bait. They didn't care about being paid because their missions took care of all their need.
Let's now look at the average Nigerian doctor who is first and foremost a Nigerian and so has typical Nigerian outlook to life. The average Nigerian doesn't care Or love his neighbour, doesn't value human life, loves money and respects wealth, will cheat you while swearing on the bible or Koran. Why do we now expect the Nigerian doctor who came from this background to behave like a saint. Next time read a thread concerning cheating in exams on nairaland and see how many Nigerians applaud the practice. Then imagine that some of those people are medical students who will treat you when you go to hospital.
There are good Nigerians and there ate bad Nigerians and just like it is in the larger society, it cannot be different in medicine.

Omogemi go to India with your husband if you can afford it. IVF is a little like gambling with science thrown in and the truth is success rates are just about 50% world wide. There are good IVF clinics in Nigeria but none can give you a 100% guarantee same thing in India, South Africa, Europe or America. The issue in your case is that if you insist on doing it here and you dont get a positive result your husband will blame you and that will add extra strain and stress to a situation that doesnt need it. Just do your research well before you travel.
Praying for the best results for yOu.

Truth is she doesnt really do a bad job, I'm just a bit obsessive about straight lines. When I go to people's houses I sometimes have to restrain myself from straightening things. But really women do amaze me, my new house help is light in complexion, when one of my SIL saw her she said she could never have her in her house and suggested getting me a younger girl like her own help whom I think is about 13. I told her to tell her brother herself that she doesn't want a fine help in his house and maybe explain why. I will only employ someone over 18 and if you work for me I must pay you. I am always grateful to God for my background but I am also aware it was not my doing, God could easily have placed me in a less endowed family or something could have happened tomy parents at a young age. I just thank him that that was not my lot and pray that my kids never have to work for their keep.

I can't understand why anyone would trust their precious baby to a 10 year old. I have a 9 year old niece living with me and all she does is bath herself, make her own bed ( which I still remake) wash her undies and her own plate. I had to let my last house help go because of her attitude towards the child. She felt since this was not my biological child she was not going to serve her. I have a new paid adult help now and if she misbehaves she will leave too. Before I took my niece in I did a lot of soul searching and told myself that if I could not treat her as my own child it would be better that I didn't take her in at all, fortunately she is such a lovable child that everyone from my husband to my in laws has accepted her as part of the family. To all those that use children as house helps pray that nothing ever happens that necessitates your child living with a relative in future cos that will be their fate.

Increase their prices, yes but not 200%.

We bought diesel last week for our generator, after the removal of the subsidy on PMS and the noticed that there was hardly any increment in the price. This makes me wonder why luxury buses from the east whose running cost have not increased also increased their prices by almost 200%. We are all shouting ourselves hoarse at the government and private businesses are using the opportunity to rip us off, while we remain mute. HFor the same reason BRT buses in Lagos or molues or trailers carrying foodstuff from the north have no business increasing their prices as they are not affected in any way since they use diesel. The airline industry also is not affected their fuel was deregulated ages ago so if they increase their prices it will only be due to greed.
So while we curse at our government we should also curse those fellow common men who are making life more difficult for their fellow common man.

i used Georges memorial in Lekki phase 1 for all my 4 attempts. IVF is just a crazy roller coaster ride. I have friends travelling all over the world SA, UK, India and while some have good results others don't. Just hold on to your faith and pray that God leads you to your own right place.