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sheyie2007: lol.. Even Mtn is a joke.. I could give you links on demand.. Seems you judge by comments

I don't use or care about MTN. But they not a joke. They are the largest telomarket copmany in africa with a global foot print.

sheyie2007: I don't dispute facts like you do, all your posts thus far reflects the hatred you have towards other African countries particularly Nigeria.. I'm here to educate you that SA is not special.. other African nations have the capability of overtaking it in every measure..

But non has. And non will. Nigeria may or may not become a large econmy but it will change nothing.

sheyie2007: https://www.nairaland.com/584118/glo-breaks-another-barrier-launches http://www.technologybanker.com/breaking-news/mtn-sa-introduces-lte-devices-in-south-africa Mtn is a joke when it comes to techie

You should read the commints about glow

https://www.nairaland.com/583939/glo-launches-first-4g-lte-network

Seems glow is a joke.

Unless you can pull of the first one of getting thos masses of unemployed gain fully employed you will not see a postive advange of a large popuasltion. As it stands it is a disandvange with high poverty.

As I siad. Other than a few books I don't know much about arts and culture.


Soccer is one sport. You menstion sport not soccer. There fore I had to point out that over all SA sport secien is bigger.

You mean that church that people are accusse of lieing? Over all it is a minorty in SA.

Nolloywood produce a lot. But most is not of any realy qualty. SA produces world class movies and TV shows. Many holloy wood movies are filimed in SA. And the few movies we do make become large successes.

That is a not true. MTN and muiti choice are the 2 largest brands in nigeria. But we trad a lot of other items. Example are such things has Car's, machinry and spar parts from intersnastion companys produced and or assbelled in SA. And has I said. SA wants more access. Shop right is looking to expand heavly in to nigeria.

Inik: Nay, Nigeria played a big role in crushing the apartheid regime http://www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8020.htm

Let see.
Nastionlized BP. That affected UK not SA

Boycot a sports event. Not really all that threaning

Provided some traing and supplys. Not much use since most ANC grunts where poorly equipmet and trained.

Once again in the big picture Nigeria did very littel.

Inik: I still stand on what i said earlier. In terms of population, arts and culture, sports, religion, entertainment etc Nigeria is ahead of south africa

Population? Yes but it not a advantiage. Far from it.

Arts and culture? Never heard any thing about this from a nigerian side. Other than a few books I read in school.

Sports? No maybe soccer but that is it. In every other aspect SA sport secien is bigger, better funded and better perfoming.

Relgion? Your 2 mian groups are trying to kill each other. How is that a good thing.

Nolloy wood may make movies like you breed children. But that dose not mean much. SA make movies and tv serries for the internastiol market.

Other than popuasltion nigeria has nothing on SA. And in a since that is all we want. South africas local market can not support the output of our industries. We need a large resnably wealthy market. AKA nigeria.

sheyie2007: they have assets that's why they top... Nothing modern or unique.. They're just like every other companies

You can ignore the truth all you want. Dose not make it any thing but the truth.

sheyie2007: lol @light years... Glo's technology dwarfs Mtn's ...FYI: Glo introduced LTE before mtn ...

Show proof of this cliam. If you go back you will see thise was discused all ready and it is a myth. Glow is a joke compared to SA telocomucastion sytems.

sheyie2007: ur own opinion as always

No it is fact. Nigeria has 100 million people in poverty. It is not any one's opion but fact. You are blind to the truth.

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/129349-exclusive-fg-bans-film-on-nigerian-poverty-places-producer-under-security-watch.html

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17015873



And please show me where your poverty level has droped. Every idcastion is that it is on the increase.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/35947-nigerias-poverty-level-rises-hits-715-sokoto-niger-top-list-of-poorest-states

sheyie2007: Gimme the latest stats...2013 dude.... It's 70 million ... You can shove the 100 up your bottom... And stop misleading peeps with 2010 estimates

Since when are those 2010 states. And the 2013 report is not out. Those reports are from 2012.

Did you even bother to read them.

Nigeria has 100 million people in poverty. That is a fact.

sheyie2007: go checkout gtbank and zenith bank(Nigerian owned) and their branches.. Just wanna know what you mean by "more modern"

Check the top 300 companies In africa. You will see our top banks dwarf nigerias. This is a fact.

Nigeria has only just moved in to a cashless society. We all so have far more ATM's a much better forghine exchange extra extra.

Do you know the rand is the most traded african currency.

sheyie2007: next time, you might want to boast of their assets..not "more modern"... Even mtn can't compete with glo when it comes to modern technology, but her customer base is bigger....

What is glow, really what is it. Dose it truely offer any thing above MTN? No. MTN is not even a good network provider but they light years a head of that thing called glow.

sheyie2007: there you go again.... Why don't you give me the latest stats that shows a hundred millie nigerians are poor

What you have not seen these reports and links before

http://www.ruralpovertyportal.org/country/home/tags/nigeria

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_Nigeria

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/will-nigeria-fail-again-in-2030-to-reduce-extreme-poverty/


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9380DH20130409?irpc=932

Only the blind don't know the truth.

sheyie2007: same way you claimed Nigeria not having a banking sector on the other thread... I repeat, aside infrastructure, you're nothing! We can't boast of a good infrastructure yet, and we're competing with you... Be very afraid

Where did I say nigeria dose not have a banking sectore. I just siad South africa has a larger, more modern banking sectore. There is a diffrence.

agaugust: [size=16pt]@Henry, I have reply war simulation to @andrewsza South African Navy's blockade of Nigerian ocean waters and oil exports. I want to post when you are here. Is tonight okay ? Midnight. ?[/size]

Can you please not post in all capital, it is against forum rules.

Henry120: Anyone noticed the new rules on the new post form nairaland's 21 commandments!!!


Nigeria's leader president GEJ is in south africa on a state visit (first by a nigerian leader to SA in 4 years).

Many agreements were signed yesterday, however we on this page are particularly interested in the defence co-operation agreement Nigeria and south africa signed.


To the south africans on this page, do you guys have any idea what the defence co-operation entails? If you do, please share with sources to prove.

Probaly somthing to do with the a AU rapid recstion force.

agaugust: Nigeria GDP about $450 billion
South African GDP about $578 billion

sources : Wikipedia already quoted by me.

the GDP difference is so small south African economy does NOT dwarf Nigerian economy.

Nigeria is growing at 7% but south Africa grows at 2%, Nigerian GDP is growing 3 times faster than south Africa and will soon overtake you

Also south Africa is living on borrowed money heavy debt, slow poison, time bomb.

Go solve your problems with poor cash liquidity and huge import bills more than your export income can pay for.

South African economy is sick, your government is hiding the sickness, and deceiving you.

Post sources web link to prove your claim that south African economy dwarfs Nigerian economy. Figures we can easily confirm. Both countries have informal economic figures we cannot verify. So post available public data. stop posting with no source web link, it makes you look like a fraud.

When you take in to account populastion size you see how we dwarf nigeria.

agaugust: Nigeria GDP about $450 billion
South African GDP about $390 billion

sources : Wikipedia already quoted by me.

Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa.

Post sources web link to prove your claim that south African economy dwarfs Nigerian economy. Figures we can easily confirm. Both countries have informal economic figures we cannot verify. So post available public data. stop posting with no source web link, it makes you look like a fraud.

You do know there is diffrence between PPP and nomnial.

Once again you use misinfomastion

Sa PPP is 578.6 billion vs nigeria's PPP of 450billion.

sheyie2007: seems you dont understand what infrastructure means If i may ask, what do you have in banking that other African countries don't have?

Nigeria all so has roads, electricty, running water extra extra. It has to do with qulaty and access.

South Africas GDP per capita is 11 000 nigeria is around 2000. You still think you got more middel class. There are 100 million people in nigeria living in poverty. Still think you got more middel class

sheyie2007: a role is a role dude... Aside infrastructure, what do you have

Well if you included banking, power, water extra.

Money both goverment and in the privat sectore, standard of living, extra

sheyie2007: dude, Nigeria played a big role in the libration of some African countries including yours.. Your economy is better than Nigeria's, no doubt.. but a big bro will always be a big bro..

Nigeria played a very small role in liberating SA in the long run.

Inik: We need to keep on straightening our ties with our South african brothers but they have to admit the fact that we are the Big bros!

what? why? nigeria only has a larger populastion. for the rest there is nothing nigeria has over SA.

Defenceweb: What do you mean?

Put them on the rooikat, olphant, rate extra.

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Defenceweb: South African/SAAB LEDS Hard Kill System


This system has a few European customers, and has been tested by the U.S Army.
It's also going to be used on the new Badger IFV's. Fires a Denel Dynamics Mongoose (South African) missile at incoming targets such as RPG's, which protect the armoured vehicle.

[img]http://4.bp..com/-By5HWq6iLdk/ThjhVMBGRfI/AAAAAAAAALk/JgTduc-kRAo/s1600/LEDS-150+launcher+%2526+Mongoose+KE+round+on+Indian+Army+T-90S+MBT.jpg[/img]

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/LAND/LAND_new/Saab_LEDS_trials.JPG


https://i42.tinypic.com/25kpwjr.jpg

They should back fit them.

agaugust: .


Nigerian airforce newly purchased Terminator helicopter gunships.


[img]http://beegeagle.files./2011/09/terminator-mi-8amtshexport-modelmi-171shassaulttransport-helicopter1.jpg[/img]

It is not a gunship. It is a armed transport helicopter. There is a difrence.

all4naija: Beautiful! But, that is an easy prey. Just deflate of the tires with sniper gun. . South African defense is not taking into very detail when building their weaponry and other military hardware.

They armourd run flats. A few small arms rounds will not stop it.

Defenceweb: Please leave me alone if you have nothing to say. One minute you're telling me about grenades, the next you're jumping to SA/Nigeria. It's like I'm talking to someone with two personalities. If you believe that anyone at the receiving end of this machine gun will suffer no harm, then that's fine with me. Believe what you want, just leave me out of it. I wonder if you even know what machine gun this is, who manufacturers it, when it was manufactured, how many other countries use it. I wonder.

Browing 12.7 (could be the browing 7.62) used by all most every county in the world. It is the RPG of machin guns.

agaugust: .

[img]http://1.bp..com/_ySFE6T7lppg/S7AJ3C4uKoI/AAAAAAAAALA/MqIpxmeuuD0/s1600/cash.gif[/img]


south africa exports $101 billion, imports $107 billion, negative balance of payment -$6 billion anually

nigeria exports $97 billion, imports $70 billion, positive balance of payment +$27 billion anually

nigerian economy is better in cash liquidity than south africa based on the above. nigeria has a saving frugal economy like china/japan in 1970s. south africa has a spending welfare tending spendthrift economy like america/britain 1990s.

the welfare state system is a financial burden on america/europe and south africa is beginning to weaken financially from welfare state model. they dont have too much gold to export. platinum is not a hot cake like oil and gas.

who is better ? be honest and ignore national pride and ego.

sources :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria

for nigeria and south africa, unemployment rate is almost the same with 1% difference, poverty rate is very close with 10% difference.

does anybody have reliable sources with different figures to challenge me ?

south africa is NOT the paradise people think it is. beautiful buildings and modern infrastructure is not a measure of real cash liquidity. can anyone quote a finance textbook to prove me wrong ?

Trade with sadc is not listed. I have mentioned this before.

According to wikepedia South africa econmy dwarfs that of nigeria.

all4naija: That magazine looks old and no longer used in modern battle. It will take a single lurking soldier to level it with hand grenade because it is not that very mobile.

The world reccord throw is still under 100m. A 12.7mm range is 2000m plus.

agaugust: No ban without a reason. You get banned when you insult people too much. You get what you deserve. Simple.

Anti spam bot banned me, the bot dose not regster insults, remember don't need to use foul words to insult any one. Actually they normaly the worst kind.

sheyie2007: lol.. Nobody hates you dude.. You got banned for a reason

I got banned by a anti spam bot. That means a automated program baned me.