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patriot4: An other SA lie exposed: the number of AU troops in the base that was overran by the 1000 strong heavilly armed rebels was 150:
"About 150 peacekeepers, most from Nigeria, had been stationed at the Haskanita base, but they had been grounded since June because of the insecurity in the area."
And look at the type of weapons they were carrying:
"The rebels used armored vehicles and rocket-propelled grenades, an indication that they are more heavily armed than previously believed, peacekeepers said."
And look at what happened:
"We battled for hours, but when we ran out of ammunition"
And Nigeria lost only 7 soldiers: "Speaking in Ethiopia, the AU's top peace and security official, Said Djinnit, said 10 peacekeepers were killed in the attack. AU officers said the dead included a police officer from Senegal, two military observers from Botswana and Mali and seven soldiers from Nigeria"
http://azdailysun.com/news/world/rebels-overrun-peacekeeper-base-in-darfur-killing/article_0c6314da-e7a1-528c-805a-c54881799a58.html

Did they ever mestion what happended to the 30MIA?

patriot4: Well there were six sides on the ground:
1)SELEKA
2)SANDF
3)CIVILIANS
4)Red cross
5)french soldiers
6)FOMAC soldiers

And everybody except SANDF says you were beaten, so...

Actually non of them have officasly come out and said any think like. And a number of ngos helped compile the 500 figure.

patriot4: I don't trust him on this one report because it seems that every entity which is not attached to SA says that SANDF was badly beaten, and here we have a South african (who was a major in the SA armed forces) preaching that SA troops fought merveloussly. Come on...

Yet none of those people had accsess to the SANDF reports and coumtacs. So I will take the word of one informed over a 1000 0000 uniformed.

patriot4: " Soldiers were badly paid, but military discipline had been allowed to slip in the past decade, said Helmoed Romer-Heitman, who has in the past contributed to South African military planning.
"
http://allafrica.com/stories/200908270368.html

About 500 SANDF took part the domostrastion. All where fired and even though courts have told the SANDF to reinstate them, the SANDF has refused.

Though the pay of deffense personal did go up. Privats had there pay doubled to bring it in line with police.

agaugust: @andrewza, offer your 18 year old female cousin to @patriot4 in marriage and am sure the guy will leave you alone.


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Lol. My femal cousin is not 18 any more and married.

patriot4: "South Africa: Incompetence Order of the Day"
"The Defence Force has come to accept dishonesty, incompetence and laziness in its officer corps.

Officers who fail courses are retrospectively passed; officers who are thrown off courses because they are not doing the work, are reinstated and passed; officers who cheat are passed; incompetent officers are kept in posts and promoted; and an officer who presented fraudulent degrees has been kept in service.
"
http://allafrica.com/stories/200701090701.html
@andrewza, I am only quoting the man you said you trust.

And it was true. I had you to join yet and it was a army issue but I hear there was big turrmoil around it.

patriot4: He was once an SA soldier.
It is clear that he is only being patriotic.

regaurdless he is a man of intergrity and honsty (ready some of his reports on the sandf) who predicted that somthing like this would happen last year all ready. He has no resone to lie and if you feel that just because he is south african and thuse a lieing patriot, then our can we trust any thing any nigerian says about there milltary.

sheyie2007: Andrewza is the reason why aliens won't talk to us

They did all ready but they fell for a nigerian 419 scam so left in anger.

patriot4: The man is a South african national. And he is "South African correspondent for Jane's Defence Weekly".
Come on, stop taking people for fools. Coetzee, you can do better than that.

Actually no. He is so far the only persone with any experiance in the milltary circel who has comminted. There for I will take his word over some uninformend.

sheyie2007: You guys are giving urselves credits that you didn't earn.. yet, you still have the balls to post a co.za domain as a credible source?

If you scroll down to the bottom you can see who wrote it. It was not writen by some reporter.

And who els is covering the details of The SANDF mission to CAR. If you thing it is wrong phon him up.

patriot4: Look I have posted numerous reports saying SA got badly beaten, including UN, Redcross, French and rebel sources.
It might be time for you to admit it. I know you were (or might still be) a South african soldier.
But, your boys lost, take it like a man.
Your boys just don't know how to fight.
By the way, have you started swallowing your mobile phone yet ?

you have yet post any such post every thing was from uniformerd or biased posts. so i will take this has the proof since the man who wrote it is well respected amoung milltary circels. Somthing your not nor any of your sources

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/e/1.1493841

Now can you end your notion that SANDF rettreated.

scipher: i'm not an engineer, but when components are purchased, they make it known to the public.. in this case, nigerian engineers and scientist developed it locally.. 100%.. our engineers developed our satellite as well..

In this very forum the metioned that the engiens and eltronis and naigastion equimpent was sourced from out side nigeria.

patriot4: You are in protection of the french 600 soldiers, and I don't think you still have all your weapons, even if you did, you are not considered a threat by seleka.

Lol if you kind find a source for any thing you just said I will eat my cell phone.

scipher: Dude, NNS andoni was 100% developed in nigeria.. Nigerian university students develop radar systems as school projects(That's not even a big deal).

What type of radar. There ar many kinds.

So did you build the MTU egiens that power it. Because that would be bi news.

patriot4: Andrewza, please show you have a brain. The rebels never lost 500 men.

It has been the only number given. And was not given by the SANDF even. I am inclin to bielfe untill it is disproven. It has yet to be disproven.

patriot4: Look, it says right here that the rebels lost only 38 men.
"
Casualties and losses

35 rebels killed,
8 rebels injured
"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Republic_conflict_(2012%E2%80%93present)

Any body that posts wikpeadia has a source is a fool. I could log on to it and say they lost 50000 if I wated to.

They give no source for the losses on the rebels, car army or civlians.

But you know that. You just desprat.

patriot4: Stop quoting your face saving men. The reporter is a red cross agent. He knows exactly what is happening.

Red cross agents are just people. Nothing more. There is no way he or she knows what the SANDF is plaining.

patriot4: you couldn't hold on your base, you pulled the white flag before being annihilated.

You have yet to show proof of that. Even though I have asked many times.


And if we did surrenda why do we still have all our wepaons and gear. Please explian that.

patriot4: First you said you killed 500 rebels, yet red cross said it found only 78 bodies including many civilians, and please stop with the lies you were not the only ones fighting. And hospitals are rather full with injured civilians, not rebels

They found 78 bodies in the streets of bangue of a weekend of rioting. We never fought the rebels in the city. We where 50km out side the city.

patriot4: This is a verry credible source from Red Cross, they were at the scene, they saw what happened and they interract with your men and with seleka.

That dose not many the reporter has any knowledge of what is going on. In any case the Chirfe of the SANDF has said there are no plans to withdraw or reinforce the group in CAR. They are waiting on orders from the presdiants. Even we need to withdraw we can do it our self.

patriot4: It doesn't seem that they have a bloody knose over here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucqyy0NDtPY
it's more like they completely humiliated your men with very little effort.

Hospitals in the capital are overflowing with rebels and others wounded in the fighting

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/03/30/world/africa/central-african-republic-bodies-found-in-the-capital.xml



Since we did all most all the fighting (according to the rebels them selfs even) I say we gave them one bloody nose.

scipher: If you don't give me a credible source that we bought that radar, you're a f0ol for life.. then what will it take to expand a dockyard thats a lame excuse

Why don't you find me proof you built the radar.

A lot of time and money.

sheyie2007: A radar is what Nigerian university students do while eating easy as fvck

Show proof and what radar. Tou do know there are many kinds of Radar sytems(your dron has none)

patriot4: you're kidding, right, any way we will soon know.
Becausse MEND has thretened to come to SA to deal with your army and free okah.
You can't defeat SELEKA, yet you think you can defeat MEND ...? MEND was about 30000 strong, it was heavilly armed and it was hiding in the creeks, still, it couldn't have a known base because NA was shelling it, and MEND was also using villages full with civilians as shield. Wait till the show up in SA, and let's Watch.

Whiel since we gave seleka a bloody nose even though out numberd I am not worried about your littel MEND issue.

sheyie2007: A university project.. Seriously? You can do better

What is a university project.

scipher: I thought you said we don't have a dockyard? and we can't develop radars?

I said what dock yard. And you don't even need a dock yard for a boats that size. KND built boats size in a whork shop then launched them at siommons town.

According to my understang you bought the radar not built them.

scipher: The fact that you doubt every claim is making me sick..
NNS Andoni (P100)
Seaward Defence Boat
Built at the Nigerian Naval Dockyard 2012

And that boat is so small it could fit on the flight deck of NNS Aduru

scipher: @andrewza - In economics, you produce goods that have competitive advantage. Good you produce 80% of cars(which i doubt)

Yep it 80% and our bigest market is Algeria then Nigeria. And the thing is Algeria is closer to europe than SA but SA make a lot of pick up trucks such has the toyata hilux and for ranger. We even produced 1 million engiens for america to fit in there ford transet van(has in we sold built a engien now used in america)

scipher: dude, do you read at all?

It dose not mention radar.

scipher: The NNS Andoni is equipped with an advanced radar system and firepower.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18300358

Accord to your beloved beegelblog both the engien, radar and commucastion sytems where built out side nigeria. And a 20mm deck gun and some MG is not advance fire power. That boat is a seaward deffense boat. A class of veasells last used in SA around WW2.

scipher: http://beegeagle./2012/09/28/world-exclusive-made-in-nigeria-amebo-iii-drone-inspired-by-henry-a-beegeagles-blog/

Yes it dose not mentio radar or any think modern actually.

It dose not even have a FLIR never mind radar.