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otuwe:
then why is Telly B always asking horus this question

i have seen this particular question for like ten times through out this religion forum. why is Telly B always asking horus that? ?? ? /

Dios:
Ok that sentence is senseless.

Esss:
Church Services boring?? , What an understatement, The whole thing is not just boring, but also annoying. You sit there and a pastor is trying to shove his own understanding of the bible down your troath and if you dare argue you are a sinner. And they must end with their favourite line "dig your hands into your pocket and give your widows mite, or "challange God with your offering", or "sow a seed faith". Back in the dayz when I was in Nigeria, I will walk out during service and just sit in a corner with some boys and smoke the whole service away. The end point of every service is give us your money, repent or go to hell, Jesus is coming tomorrow, someone is plotting/sending evil forces against you and die by fire. And in the evening, they expect you to attend house fellowship.

^{I don't go to church anymore} _{except for christmas day just to hear the choir sing some hynms.}

I'd rather be sleeping on sunday morning.

otuwe:
ahhhhh na fight
are we quarelling?

freelance:
This is very funny! I hope nobody actually follows these biblical examples!!!!

It’s all good.


This can't be from the holy bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but they are really
from the Holy Book, the Bible

1. Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her
head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes. Then she's yours.
-- (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)


2. Find a prostitute and marry her.  
-- Hosea (Hosea 1:1-3)


3. Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his
flock.
-- Moses (Exodus 2:16-21)


4. Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman as part of the deal.

-- Boaz (Ruth 4:5-10)


5. Go to a party and hide. When the women come out to dance, grab one
and carry her off to be your wife.
-- Benjaminites (Judges 21:19-25)


6. Have God create a wife for you while you sleep. Note: this will
cost you a rib.
-- Adam (Genesis 2:19-24)


7. Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman's hand in
marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work
another seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first
place. That's right. Fourteen years of toil for a woman.  
-- Jacob (Genesis 29:15-30)


8. Cut off 200 foreskins off of your future father-in-law's enemies
and get his daughter for a wife.  
-- David (I Samuel 18:27)


9. Even if no one is out there, just wander around a bit and you'll
definitely find someone. (It's all relative of course.)
-- Cain (Genesis 4:16-17)


10. Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest.  
-- Xerxes or Ahasuerus (Esther 2:3-4)


11. When you see someone you like, go home and tell your parents, "I
have seen a , woman; now get her for me." If your parents question
your decision, simply say, "Get her for me. She's the one for me."  
-- Samson (Judges 14:1-3)


12. Kill any husband and take HIS wife. (Prepare to lose your son
though).
-- David (2 Samuel 11)


13. Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow. (It's not just a
good idea, it's the law).
-- Onan and Boaz (Deuteronomy or Leviticus, example in Ruth)


14. Don't be so picky. Make up for quality with quantity.
-- Solomon (1 Kings 11:1-3)


15. A wife?, NO WAY!!!
-- Paul (1 Corinthians 7:32-35

What ya think

Dios:
@Aproko
What's aproko anyway?

Dios:
Speaking in tongues doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You go on this big tongue twister rampage but you can't explain what it means because "its the spiritual realm" right? Well do me a favour, both of y'all need to move to the spiritual realm.

Dios:
When it comes back tell the holy spirit i said wassssssssssssssssssssssssuppppppppppppppppppppp in tongues.

Seun:
What does "black Jesus" have to do with the topic?

otuwe:
*who is black jesus ?*

Outbreed:
LOL. I have one of those too, but I can't imagine what that would be like. Hopefully one day I'll find out (and then come back here to tell you all about it).

Paw-Paw:
Oloshi did I ask for your advice,

Outbreed:
Maybe that's just my hell though.

otuwe:
* looking for aproko*

pilgrim.1:
Joker of the day. You're such a late arrival - there are many who have expressed the same thing and gathered some followers around them; and yet they still couldn't meet their own desires for themselves.

smile11s:
Th earlier you believe in me, Quicker you reach your destiny.

I am coming, soon,

Paw-Paw:
If you visit Nigeria in the next 3months I will make sure you go to Heaven. Though I can't garrantee it but with lots of prayer you will be surprised.

rowlandwhy:
A P R O K O,
Take am easy
spare the babe abi na guy!

Paw-Paw:
I have a church and mine is not boring at all.

pilgrim.1:
@Aproko,

As for you, girlfriend. . . I promise to do you back O! No escape for you and otuwe at all!

pilgrim.1:
You too slow! See how Grail Message dey connect people?

pilgrim.1:
It's just a little something that I might bring to your attention, though: if he changes the figures in his username to 200[b]7[/b] (or upgrade to 200[b]8[/b]) then we go click. The year/figure 200[b]2[/b] is not so it, don't you think? But that wouldn't be such a problem, would it?

pilgrim.1:
Girlfriend, you pay your taxes, don't you? Oya answer quick-quick before I vex for you!

pilgrim.1:
@Soundmind and All,

All or most of those things may be happening in church, but none of them can fill the heart of a spiritually thirsty person. Until the Church rediscovers her spiritual identity, we can go on adding more ideas, activities and programmes to keep the status quo of 'lively church(es)' and still come away with the same spiritual dryness.

Let no one suppose that the poster/originator of the thread deliberately loses interest in Church - at least he was speaking the mind of most of us in as simply and honestly can be. Pastors need to be rediscovering themselves and their God-ordained calling before they can hope to lead people to the presence of the living God.

What do we have in most of our churches today? If it's not marriage and romance seminar, it's the latest revelation on how God 'spoke' to someone on how to raise some funds for a 'vision' (please read 'project' - church building, pastors' promotion, etc). We need to start asking more germane questions:

What is Church?

What is spirituality?

What is worship?

If people substitute their ideas for the Biblical understanding of issues like that, then anything will be the order of the day. Late last year, a friend came home unusually earlier from their normally 3 to 4 hours church service. Surprised, I asked her what the matter was. Believe it or not, her response was that they couldn't hold 'service' that Sunday because the musical instruments were locked up in one of the houses of the music leaders - and he was not back from his travel before that sunday! This is not making up stories - it is an example of some of the silly things we've built our ideas on!

Of course, there are other silly reasons that make shock some of us. But when was the last time or how long ago did anyone hear a soul-searching teaching in Church on the Cross, repentance from hypocrisies (especially of those in high positions who are involved in holy 419), etc.?

Fact is, Church in many quarters is boring - and until we go down on our knees and seek the face of God, it will be futile trying to make up for the spiritual paucity with mere activities and programmes. Nothing can be substituted for the REALITY of presence of the living GOD!

enitan2002:
are you now ready to be mine?,
am on my kneels pleading

davidylan:
the promised land is Africa? ride on mr comedian!

Donzman:
When I want to fall and scream out "Chineke", I fall but I do not get injured so I say that is the name!

pilgrim.1:
What is this hogwash you came back with? Where have I insinuated the G. Bush political adventures in my repostes? The one thing that amazes me with this kind of lazy thinking that you acclaim for your passions is that people like you fail to lift p your eyes and see issues for what they really are and then make a quick skit on blame everything on G. Bush!

pilgrim.1:
How many of the dastardly acts by jihadists could you count on your finger tips for your passionate blame-it-on-G-Bush apologetics? Where were you when the same jihadists were busy letting off their bombs on others with no connection to the overblown and  ready excuse of 9-11? Please come back and show me the connecting dots with the Sudan crises and G. Bush's so-called vendetta. The Pakistani case with the Hudood laws which they use against their own citizens? And the Afghanis who are all to happy to do 'Allah's pleasure without a single thought thereto as to whoever G-Bush is?

pilgrim.1:
We're talking about what Islam is in its true colour and you're making such a spin off already because you just can't resist the temptation to bring in your anti-Bush crash course into it. Don't humour me further on that, please. The one thing I often offer people like you is the same one thing you political correctness will ever refuse to do: pick up the Qur'an and Hadiths, check out the references offered, carefully go through the meanings that Muhammad himself claimed upon those same verses - and then let's discuss! What has George Bush got to do with the Hadiths and the Qur'an?

pilgrim.1:
You amaze me Aproko. In a hilarious twist of event you've only confirmed and established my summations while thinking you have a case against them! I deliberately left you a sinker and you swallowed it wholesale - America was warned about 9-11 long before it happened: and that is just the shape of things that we could hope for with the sort of "political correctness" you've been shlepping all along! Go figure.

pilgrim.1:
I don't suppose you know the first letter about Islam, and it wouldn't help until you've had a good grasp on what you're proposing. First, I wasn't quoting a magazine in reference to the ISLAMIC tenet of BREAKING treaties with IMPUNITY!! Do you care to settle down and weigh the meaning of that statement? That dishonest and hideous practice that you feel to sweep under as "anybody can" is the very bane of the failed attempt to make peace with Muslims in the middle East! They make a treaty with you and then go behind and break it wih IMPUNITY - does that speak to you about the question of moral decency and honest relations? What would you say if someone else comes along as thereby claim that Muslims can't be trusted for such attitudes to TREATIES?!? Please, Aproko try and open your eyes and READ Islam for what it is; and not for what you're supposing it 'might' mean what you can't defend.

pilgrim.1:
Please don't pretend to read that into my rejoinder. Unless English has lost its meaning, I pointed out that my posts have nothing to do with either "tit-for-tat" or your pun on "eye for an eye".

pilgrim.1:
I had Muslim and Christian friends (besides 1 radical atheist) before I came to know the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour - and I still have many Muslim friends up until now. The ones we hang out with may not be "fundamentalists"; but if you want to discuss the real face of Islam without the facade and cosmetics, take up my challenge and go live in the acclaimed "Islamic countries" of those places I offered you - nothing more or less. Sitting in the comfy zones and holding attempting to discuss what you haven't a grasp on is not going to wash until you have some substance to your persuasions.

pilgrim.1:
With all respect to your profession, does legal practice begin and end with making propositions that refuse to look at documented evidence? Would it be too much to ask that you reserve your arguments until after you've read the Qur'an and the Hadiths and see what I've been discussing or debating? Has legal practice been redefined in such a way as to look the other way and refuse to consider the very spirit, motive and claims being made by "the other party" right in their very revered books?

pilgrim.1:
No matter how you try to present issues to a typical Muslim mindset, he has a default ideology to reject everything you say wholesale - be that ever so nice as you may. I don't go out of my way to make the "other party" lose their sense of self - nevermind that is the very thing they do on their own websites!

davidylan:
while aproko is busy debating issues she knows little or nothing about otuwe has decided to throw in the towel.
A very interesting bunch of sisters.

pilgrim.1:
@Aproko,

This simply tells me that you don't read issues at all in the real world. Let me guess: suppose the president of Iran had used his missile against America and afterwards the Muslim clerics come out hypocritically to "denounce" such "barbaric" acts, wuld you still be crying the same tune? Now, he has not used it (and pray he does not) - but what are the same Muslim clerics saying already - are they in support of it or against it? Please come back and categorically deny this and let me offer you some video clips to watch and convince yourself on the matter. You surprise me because you are arguing merely from hypothesis that are strangely far from reality.

pilgrim.1:
Diplomacy means nothing to the Muslim middle East. Why do you think that Islam believes in making treaties and BREAKING the same with impunity?

pilgrim.1:
You may want to read it in the other verbiage "tit-for-tat" - and that is simply way off course in what I'm stating.

pilgrim.1:
"Perhaps", you say? Please Aproko, do me the favour of entering into a diplomatic discussion with a Muslim whichever way you want to present yourself and your views; then come back with situational report as to whether or not they care who you are or want them to see you as.

pilgrim.1:
I'm saying that you're holding a very narrow concept of how you wish others to discuss issues - especially with people who don't care whichever way you want to be read.

pilgrim.1:
Come home closer: those who have seen "tolerance" were busy drinking their capuccinos in well airconditioned oval offices when bombs were being set off by jihadists right in their courtyards.

pilgrim.1:
@Aproko,

And your point is. . .?

An evil perpertrator does not have to scream before he commits his dastard deeds. So, what's the point you're trying to make?

pilgrim.1:
Debating issues and creating awareness against the political correctness (read 'hypocricy') that acts only too late is not overbearing. It is the same "political" hypocrisy that feeds the perpertrators of the same problems that the politically correct have to contend with today.

pilgrim.1:
Why is it the default idea that when Christians debate Islam with Muslims, it has to automatically be interpreted as "rubbishing people's beliefs"? Have you ever cared to look outside the box and see what Muslims do to other people's faith? I must applaud Nairalanders who debate Muslims on tis Forum as being very cordial in contrast to other fora where Muslims have said unprintable things about Christians and Christ! Please, Aproko, don't amuse me.

pilgrim.1:
Unfortunately, no matter how sanely one tries to present issues, such a person is very quickly written off as 'controversial'. That's why I don't mind anyone using the term at me so long as my primary aim is to demystify the cloudy ideas peppered by those who have made al-taqiyya a veritable part of their tenets.

pilgrim.1:
Matt. 5:16 is one of my fav verses; but I've never sought to pretend that truth cannot be told simply because we aim to let our light shine. For all of the light that righteous people offered, they were still misunderstood and even murdered in some instances. I believe that anyone seriously and objectively examining issues will see exactly what I'm about rather than wonder at how they interpret any verse on my person.

Regards.

thesilent1:
WHEN i do go to a church its either a local church or any i get invited to.

church is just an overflow for me. most sundays, i take my son to the park we have a family day out; still fellowship