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biina:
Was it not Ironsi's job to stop the coup plotters or is not his duty to protect the nation from threats abroad and within?
Was Ironsi not under the authority of the president and prime minister?
Or do you want to classify Ironsi as a coupist, cos he cannot be both. While key figures were killed, there was still a civilian government in place until Ironsi took over.
Ironsi did his job by stopping the coup, and should have done the right thing and declined power. Do not try to legalize an illegality.

You have not yet answered my question.Where have you seen a coup whether succesful or not power is being handed over immediately to a civilian government that was about or was toppled?This is reality here not idealism.Do you know the level of tension and uncertainty immediately after a coup?

You think say na beans?A coup where a serving prime minister has just being assasinated?Power should just be left for the civilians?I laugh.My guy face reality and not ideal situation.

biina:
The Nzeogwu led coup failed to seize power, and it was Ironsi that took control from the senate president led Civilian regime.
Ironsi was not elected into office, he took over.

biina:
The Senate President and acting President of the republic, Dr. Abyssinia Nwafor Orizu, and it was him who handed over the reins of government to Ironsi. Ironsi could have declined.

The Nzeogwu coupists were stopped by someone.Who was that?Was that the senate?You think the senate has or had any mouth or clouth in a coup

Where in the world have you seen a coup where the coupist whether succesful or not that the power was immediately handed over to a civillian

Okay let us say Ironsi should not have taken over,who should have taken over?

biina:
Ironsi - he shouldnt have taken over power.

If i may ask who should have taken power at that time after the coup?

biina:
The criticism was of his dethroning the civilian regime, and subsequent failure to execute the coup plotters.
If Ironsi had not seized power, and had he executed the failed coup plotters (like he should have under military justice), the civil war, and the antecedent pogrom, would likely have been adverted.
Subsequent governments have shown that you dont need more than a few days to execute coup plotters. Six months was too much time.

Was it Ironsi that that organised the january coup How did he dethrone the then civilian regime

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=397601.msg5512532#msg5512532 date=1266174218]you must be sick for this type of propaganda.where did you get it from sucker[/quote]Pot calling kettle black

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=398121.msg5512399#msg5512399 date=1266172483]The number of your men selling Spare Parts/Aba-made DVDs is a strong indicator.
I am willing to bet there are 10 times more Professors in Ekiti State than the entire Ibo nation.[/quote]the truth will set u free

Oni, Afe Babalola, Ogunlade, others diagnose Ekiti
Politics Feb 13, 2010 By Wale AKinola

In the 1950s and 1960s, the main agenda of the Ekiti people was education.
So high was education on the priority list of  Ekiti, then in the Western  Region, that virtually every household had a professor.

But, with time, the situation changed. The Ekiti people no longer paid attention to education.
So bad was the situation in the immediate past that the people now in their own state (Ekiti) were ranked very low in public examinations. Not quite long ago, the state was said to be among the last eight in the West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE). The situation was frightening.

The state slogan, Fountain of Knowledge, was becoming an anathema.
But the man at the helm of affairs in the state, Governor Segun Oni, determined to reverse the situation, said the fortunes of education in the state were returning, thanks to the pragmatic policies of his administration.

Oni linked the downturn in education in the state to the peoples poor economic status.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/13/oni-afe-babalola-ogunlade-others-diagnose-ekiti/

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=397601.msg5512176#msg5512176 date=1266169062]@afam---stop trippin and answer my questions.aguiyi ironsi was a conspiracy to the first coup that left sardauna and akintola dead.if ironsi was not an accomplice,why did t y danjuma acussed him of so at the point of his arrest in ibadan?.stop arguing unnecessarily.one way or the other, LATE AGUIYI IRONSI WAS AN ACCOMPLICE TO THE FIRST COUP .[/quote]Haha see educated illitrerate oooo! Ojigbijigbi chai rolfmao

ode remo:
even Victoria island and your[b] lekki[/b] plus ajah is nothing short of glorified slum.

Why lekki

ode remo:
you are one of the internet warriors, well your prediction might take eternity to come forth anyway what will happen to your friends in alaba, tejuosho , tinubu , etc . i thought from earlier thread you guys were claiming to be the economic back bone of lagos or is it nigeria, kindly correct me if you may.

Wily Wily is not igbo.

[quote author=na.com2 link=topic=397601.msg5511836#msg5511836 date=1266163099]_{Oh my Goodness !  Afam is already engaged in a fight like a baby in this thread. hmmm} [/quote]it seems you love afam?by the way i hope you are in city centre enjoying ur valentine instead of wasting in east kilbride.

Afam:
Na wahooo. I no fit shout!

Facts are sacred and they always stand the test of time.

Afam what if Ahmadu bello made that call to confuse Azikiwe into enteering into an agreement with him?It might not have been true that Awolowo was meeting Ahmadu Bello as the time Awo's representative was meeting with Azikiwe.You cannot rule that out you know

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=397601.msg5511705#msg5511705 date=1266161015]His full name is Patrick Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu.  Chukwuma is an Eastern name the last time I checked - either way, Nzeogwu led a group of majors mainly Igbos in the coup.  His hometown is very close to Asaba[b] - that area was deemed East, back in 1966[/b]. You people can disown him if you wish, it doesn't change the point I was making.[/quote]I am sorry to tell you that you sound like an illiterate with this bolded statement.Nobody says he was not igbo but he definitely was not an easterner.By the way are all former easterners igbos  i am now begining to understand why onlytruth and beaf say certain things about you.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=397601.msg5511657#msg5511657 date=1266160261]You, of all people should not have any difficulty understanding why some sections of Nigeria embarked on "pogrom".  A coup was led by Kaduna (an Easterner) which resulted in the cold blooded murder of primarily Northern highly beloved leaders, inculding Sardauna and Balewa - and you tell us you don't understand why their subjects reacted the way they did.  Well, I don't believe you.

I don't know how you measure "most blood or "some blood" when we are talking about the loss of lives of possibly millions of Nigerians who hail from "biafra" and other parts of the country. In addition to the "culprits" you named above,  you have to agree with me that Ojukwu and his commanding officers who allowed children to starve to death while they themselves ran away, rather than surrender, should be included in the list of those who have blood in their hands.  We need to be honest with ourselves if we are to have any meaningful conversation. Your intentional mendacity buried in brilliant writing abilities does not foo.l me.[/quote]Ndu chuks how is kaduna Nzeogwu an easterner  

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=397601.msg5511609#msg5511609 date=1266159500]You see Mr Afam or what ever it is you are called. I will not ridicule myself to start an argument with you as i have noticed is your way of doing over here but i will categorically say that you have a long way to go in laying down intellectual debates without unwarranted insults and abuses as i can see you have already begun to do since i have challenged your utterances.

I have repeated that majority of you posters on this thread may not have been born during or before the civil war and i stand to say that most of you know nothing apart the little you were able to gather from internet archives relating to the war.

Your arrogance is clearly displayed in your last sentence and as it's obvious that you know little or nothing about the war.[/quote]The charachter Eziachi was a fighter during the war.You canread his posts if you wish.

RoadStar:
Most of you were not born during the war but my regret is that there are very few objective elderly Igbo men and women who have cared to research for the truth instead of pushing a lot of lies which are mostly propaganda, was used by Ojukwu to arouse Biafran Nationalist feeling and anti-Nigerian passions which I must say was needed during the war.
During war the first culprit is always the truth.
Do you think Ukpabi Asika was the only Biafran traitor that lived ?
Did your parents bother to tell you that most Igbo political class were against the war includung Amb. Ralph Uwechue the present president of ohaneze.

There are two main culprits who have most blood on their hands but are never adequately mentioned.
Mass murderers who could sacrifice millions of lives for political expediency.
These two parties do not get enough mention in the whole Biafran episode.
They are Ojukwu and the British Government (Harold Wilson).

It had to do with a famous statement Ukpabi asika made after the war when he was given the mantle as the first leader of the then east central state.

SapeleGuy:
One of the sponsors of this series is Obi Asika, the son of Ukpabi Asika. Do you people really think that his narrative will be against Gowon or the 1 Nigeria doctrine? Charity begins at home.

Ukpabi Asika's name is a taboo is igboland and it was shown by the shunning of well meaning igbos for his burial.Obi can do whatever ge likes nobody cares because we all know what his father represents.

Okunoba just some questions as i can see you want to blame ojukwu for the war.Why was the Aburi accord thrown to the trash can?

Why should the Northern Military Officers listen to the British On something that concerns their own future?Since you say it was good that they listened to the British why then do we pretend to be an independent country?Why then we complain that that African leaders cannot make any decision on their welfare without running to the west?

Ojukwu also made statement when he refused to recognize gowon that if he did it was going to set a bad precedence it the military.Now with events that happened after the war in the military will you say he he did not know what he was saying?

Also for christsakes Ojukwu did not declare war on Nigeria it was the other way round.

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Andre Uweh:
ONLY TRUTH
Agbaso never won any election. Which election did he win?. Any one who told you that Agbaso won Imo Guber election might have lied to you.
The PPA won the election and not Agbaso's APGA. Though their was a frudulent and inconclusive election tho weeks earlier and it was cancelled by INEC. Agbaso was a signatory to the nullification of that election.
He did not head to the courts then. He consented to the cancellation and recontested for the second election.
What happened?, Imo state did not choose him but PPA and Ohakim.
THIS IS THE ONLY TRUTH.

PPA did not win any election pls.It was an arrangement btw INEC,PDP and Ohakim who was in PPA.How popular was Ohakim before that electiom

China overtakes Germany as world top exporter



February 13, 2010 07:47AM
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Germany's multi-year reign as the world's No 1 exporter is officially over, with the crown formally passing to rising China after new figures showed that German exports slid by nearly a fifth in 2009, the biggest decline in 60 years.


Tuesday's German government figures only confirmed an open secret: China's runaway growth and resilience amid the financial crisis put its exports ahead of Germany, which suffered a severe recession before returning to growth in last year's second quarter.

Last month, China's customs reported that total 2009 exports were more than $1.2 trillion, well ahead of the 803.2 billion euro ($1.1 trillion) that Germany reported Tuesday.

For Germany, the figure was a drop of 18.4 percent from 2008, although exports returned to year-on-year growth in December.

"The crisis has accelerated the shift in power in world trade toward the emerging countries," said Anton Boerner, the head of Germany's BGA exporters' association.

However, "the fact that we are passing on the title of world export champion to China doesn't cause us any worries," he added. "The growth of the Chinese economy will also secure our growth and jobs in Germany for long years."

Boerner noted that in December demand for German products from all parts of the world was up on the year.

Declining imports indicate that "large parts of the economy are still in neutral," Boerner said. "Everything must be done to encourage and stabilize the upturn in exports."

Germany took over the top spot in terms of exports in 2003, surpassing the US.

China's newfound status is mostly symbolic but highlights its growing presence as an industrial power, major buyer of oil, iron ore and other commodities and, increasingly, as an investor and key voice in managing the global economy.

Its ability to unseat longtime export leader Germany reflected the ability of agile, low-cost Chinese manufacturers to keep selling abroad even as other exporters have been hammered by a slump in global demand.

The change is the second time in three years Germany has been overtaken by China.

In 2007, China surpassed Germany to become the world's third-largest economy, just behind No. 2 Japan and the United States, which holds the top spot.

China's growth also benefits other companies and countries, particularly those in Germany, because of its voracious demand for raw materials, consumer goods and more.

Germany's leading luxury car makers, Mercedes-Benz, BMW AG and Audi AG, all have reported that their sales in China more than doubled on the year last month, helping them to improve their global performance.

Germany, and Europe, is also noted for quality and craftsmanship.

Nick Reilly, the new chief executive of General Motors Co's German-based European unit, Opel, said Tuesday he believes that "manufacturing must have and will have a bright future in Europe."

"Yes, wage rates are higher here than in other countries, but productivity, production excellence, logistics costs, quality and the work force's outstanding skill base largely offset that cost disadvantage," said Reilly, who was previously the US automaker's Shanghai-based executive vice president of international operations.

He pointed to "Opel's German engineering" as an asset to GM.

REUTERS

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5526732-146/china_overtakes_germany_as_world_top.csp

Beaf:
Lagos is not Nigeria's capital, while the other cities mentioned are country capitals. So, I hail Lagos for getting a mention (or was it done by population? In which case I keep quiet).

Up Lagos!

Nescoemmy:
I wonder hw they rate this cities but then lagos is not our capital, so i think they shld be applauded.

To correct an impression here.Not all the cities named here are countries capital.Vancouver,Toronto,Melbourne,Sydney,Perth,Adeliade are not there country's capital

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=397601.msg5506303#msg5506303 date=1266054177]i disagreed with you.Gen. Ironsi promoted many Igbo in the Army at the expense of Yoruba and Hausa officers, and was accused of perpetuating the brutal killing of Yoruba and Hausa leaders. The Northerners in particular saw it as a deliberate plan to eliminate the political heavy weights in the North in order to pave way for the Easterners to take over the leadership role from them. Resentment grew in the North which led to the May 1966 riots throughout the North during which Igbo residing in the North were attacked and killed.so the north were the least to ever had a dream of secession even though they had always be privileged by the british[/quote]Ignorance can be a very strong disease.

Andre Uweh:
If power should move away from Ikedi, it has to land into the hands of another man from Okigwe zone.
Whatever is good for Owerri and Orlu zones is equally good for Okigwe zone.
No body should look down upon Okigwe zone. Okigwe zone has only six local councils while others has nine and twelve.

Nobody is looking down on okigwe zone after all it is this zone that produced the best governor ever from the former east central zone in Dee Sam.

Then representatives from the zone should make a case for equal LGAs but this issue of governor should not be part of it.

Andre Uweh:
Asha
It is not a nonsensical formula but formula of mutual understanding. There is no zone that is not capable of producing a good governor.
If Ohakim has any case to answer, it should be between him and other contestants from Okigwe such as:
Emeka Nwajiuba
Ike Ibe
Charles Ugwu
Iheanyi Ararume.
As for Agbaso, he should stop dancing, the music is long over.

Sorry i but i feel this mutual understanding should stop because it breeds mediocrity.I am also from Okigwe zone(Obowo to be precise) and i do not see the advantage of having deceiver and former 419 man in ohakim with his clean and green nonsense in power.

Andre Uweh:
Agbaso should go and sit in the gutter. There is a zoning formula in Imo state. The formula rotates power between the 3 senatorial zones of the state. For example Owerri zone produced Evans Enwerem; Orlu zone produced Achike Udenwa and now Okigwe zone has produced Ikedichi Ohakim. Case closed.

So you think Agbaso should sit down due to this nonsesical zoning formula?What happened to eelecting someone that ACTUALLY won the election?Where is the paper or law backing this formula?If you agree with this 'formula' then why are we complaining of rotational presidency in the country/

hilli666:
Nigeria is a failed state, under the guise of a country. We should default back to our ancestral form of government, mornarchy. Back to the days of empires. Like the yourba kindom, calabar or efik kingdom, the benin empire, the kanem bornu empire. Now we are talking, at least then we knew who we were we had identities. Now we are the lauging stalk of the entire globe.

so you are now having a change of mind after blowing hot in the past?

Wrex:
Did you kill her?You are one of those who just sit in front of your computer[b] typing stories you've not confirmed[/b].Get a life

this guy dey crase

Ezeuche sometimes you have to think before you type.

Kidnappers release commissioner’s daughter
National News Feb 12, 2010 By Dayo Johnson
AKURE—AFTER spending barely five days in captivity, the daughter of the Ondo State Works Commissioner, Miss Yemi Omogunwa has been released by her abductors.
This was made possible after the father, Pastor Yele Omogunwa reportedly paid N10million to the kidnappers.
This was coming as the state government read a riot act to perpetrators of the criminal act in the state, vowing not to take kindly to their activities.

It declared through the Information Commissioner, Ranti Akerele yesterday that government would also not enter into any negotiation with kidnappers.

Akerele described act of kidnapping as an unusual phenomenon in the state, saying that Ondo State people were not kidnappers as the act was strange to the state.

The Commissioner declined comment when approached for interview just as Yemi was equally shielded from granting interview by her parents when Vanguard visited their residence yesterday.

The residence of the Commissioner was turned into a Church as family members rejoiced and sang praises after the abductors released her.

The Commissioner’s daughter was abducted last Sunday by six gunmen who stormed their resident in Oke Ijebu area, Akure.

Police authorities who secured the release of Yemi were silent on the ransom reportedly paid by the Commissioner, Pastor Yele Omogunwa before his daughter was let off the hook on Wednesday.

Yemi was reportedly released after her father agreed to pay the ransom and was returned to residence by policemen.
Ondo State Police PRO, Adeniran Aremu confirmed the release of Yemi on Wednesday but declined further comments on where she was taken to by her captives and where she was picked up by the police after her release.

Aremu said the important thing now was that the Police have been able to secure the release of the Commissioner’s daughter.

The Commissioner said government “warned strangers that were involved in the act to stop such as the long arm of the law would soon catch up with them”.

Akerele also advised the people to be vigilant and pay attention to every strange face they noticed in their communities.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/12/kidnappers-release-commissioners-daughter/



Maga don pay.Guys don hammer.

[quote author=baby-mi link=topic=396903.msg5501293#msg5501293 date=1265979399]arting[/quote]

I wonder why we are finding it difficult to have another Sam Mbakwe in Imo State.

Ohakim Goes to S’Court again over Agbaso’s Case
From Funso Muraina in Abuja, 02.12.2010

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The ongoing battle to save his seat took another turn yesterday as Imo State Governor, Chief Ikedi Ohakim, got the leave of the Court of Appeal in Abuja to move his case to the Supreme Court.

The latest move is aimed at stopping the suit filed by the candidate of the All Progressives Grand Alliance, Chief Martins Agbaso, in the April 2007 election, seeking to remove the governor from office.

Presiding judge of the Abuja division of the Appellate Court, Justice Rabiu Danlami Muhammed, granted Ohakim’s request since his challenger did not object to the move.

THISDAY learnt that the governor yesterday appointed another batch of four Senior Advocates of Nigeria (SANs) to join his legal team.
The newly appointed SANs who appeared for him are Chief Boniface Nwakama, Chief Chris Uche, Chief Levy Uzokwu and Chief Eze Duruiheoma.

Agbaso is claiming that he won the April 14, 2007, governorship election in the state which was cancelled by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) after the compilation of results from 24 out of 26 local government areas.
He also claimed that he won the election convincingly. He went on to argue that INEC had no power to cancel the poll the way it did and conducted another one on April 28, 2007.

He applied for a court order to compel INEC to announce the result of the April 14 poll cancelled by the electoral body.
The Federal High Court in Abuja had declined jurisdiction to judicially review the action of INEC when Agbaso approached it on grounds that events had overtaken the suit.

The Court of Appeal however upturned the judgment of the Federal High Court and ordered it to adjudicate on the case on its own merit.

Ohakim was however dissatisfied with the Appeal Court decision and had filed an appeal at the Supreme Court asking that the decision of the appellate court be set aside.
The governor hinged his appeal case on alleged mix-up of facts by the Court of Appeal before arriving at its decision delivered on December 16, 2009.


http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=166343