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Quakertellicus1:
I like Ribadu too.Very much.

But in 2011....his first attempt ended in abject failure. (Sure,he won one state....)

And Ribadu is not that ''popular''amongst Nigerians.Nigerians like to talk about how corruption affects them everyday....but ask them to vote for someone with actual anti-corruption antecedents....and all they will talk about is how he persecuted their son or daughter.

You are dead right! The fact is, the corrupt elite would work against Ribadu, but the larger society wouldn`t. Ribadu would strike gold if Buhari and Tinubu should fall out. Don`t forget that they used to describe Buhari as un-electable, so there are still many variables that can work in Ribadu`s favour

theV0ice:
Can you allow me a peek into those you know?

My one and only combination is Ribadu as presidential candidate with madam due process as his vice. The only combination that can remove Buhari from office

theV0ice:
You've actually lost me here.

Who are the candidates that you think will win the monetized elections we run in this country?

I may not know the candidates that would win it, but I have an idea of the ones that wouldn`t win it

theV0ice:
Its not a question of who should win. It's a question of who can win

If it was about picking the best candidates, PDP wouldn't have fielded GEJ and APC wouldn't have fielded Buhari when we had Ribadu, Utomi, Fashola, Atedo Peterside, Donald Duke etc.

Politics is a game of numbers you know?

All these names you are throwing around-Fashola, Utomi and Co are you the one that would elect them or the Nigerian people? Let`s not forget that the days of Obasanjo or Babangida selecting who would be the president of Nigeria without any regard for the electoral process are over. Please don`t forget that.

Esseite:
If i am ever to support PDP... i think i would go for Ribadu/Okonjo... truth be told, thats a formidable combination... discipline wise and economy wise...that combination might give apc a run for their money..

We need more brains than politicians...

You have just removed the chances of Ndigbo producing the president after that, because privatization-mad Okonjo-Eweala would have destroyed everything by then that her as a presidential candidate after Ribadu would be an anti-climax.

DropShot:
Which Ribadu?

The same one that couldn't win governorship election?

Obasanjo and Buhari wouldn`t have been able to win as governors of their states yet they were elected as our Presidents. If you prefer anyone to be president of Nigeria today to Ribadu, then it means you have other pre-requisites apart from good leadership qualities.

I just like him. He is the only guy that campaigns like those formidable politicians of Awo era. I know performance matters, but I still want my leader to be on top of his/her prose and poetry. Unless Ribadu is contesting, he would be a great pick. Wow, President Buhari versus Ribadu or Lamido; please don`t call that one yet!

nijanigga:
Millions of Nigerian's blood is in this man's hands viz Dele visa vatsa archibong ejigbo plane crash the list goes on . Can you imagined IBB didn't annul June 12 1993 elections .so many phantom coups with young officers rounded and secretly executed.Judgement of God on IBB has begun

Nice that you remember these guys: finest officers deliberately killed just because somebody thought they were capable of planning coup. May God do to Babangida what Babangida did to Nigeria and Nigerians. Amen

Nice picture of the indisputable symbol of global terrorism!!

Paper qualifications are mostly irrelevant to good leadership qualities. Awolowo did not major in politics ditto Ojukwu and Fashola. Buhari should be doing better than he is doing today considering the fact that he has been running things in Nigeria since the 70s, meaning being an experienced general is no big deal either. But I would still pick a general should I have to choose.

Is this not an old thread? Unnecessary repetition, like its content though.

These are the people that have served humanity the way humanity should be served. True service has no expiry date!! RIP

What I have noticed since joining Nairaland is that, people have many reasons ( some of them hidden) for asking whatever question(s) they ask. Not impossible for someone that has just lost a well-paid job in the oil and gas sector to come here and say derogatory things about the Niger Delta. How else does one interpret a question like this by this OP? For generations, over 90% of our revenue in Nigeria have been coming from SS and whatever good we have done today as a nation is made possible by that fact. In fact, if Niger-Deltans have been Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa/Fulani, they would have separated from Nigeria long time ago. Every generation defines its own struggle, that is why the first and second generations of Niger Deltans did what they thought was the right thing to do: agitating peacefully for the betterment of their people. Nigerians murdered them! So the generation that followed decided to take up arms to fight for what rightly belong to them, they have been successful and have now moved on to relying on politics and the rule of law as a tool for channeling their grievances.
OP has described himself as an hungryman; that should be a clue, shouldn`t it?.
In the history of Nigeria, the Niger Deltans are the only people that have given the best accounts of themselves, which-ever way we slice it; they don`t just produce the first Ph.D President Nigeria ever had, but the first to respect the electoral process in a way no-one has ever respected it in the history of our country.
What we need in our country today is unity and prosperity, we can only achieve that by taking intelligent political decisions. Nigeria should be providing leadership for Africa, but that won`t happen through tribal bashing. This thread is a mistake and I hope the OP can apologise for starting it. If not, then tell us which region of Nigeria you come from and what personal reason(s) you have for starting this insulting thread.
Let`s see whether you can show some leadership!

Mskrisx:
Happy Sunday

Same to you, my sister.

Mskrisx:
God bless your new age ma'am...

And u still look as beautiful as u looked in your wedding dress.

Long live the Queen!

Tell me what is so special about her...I mean as a Nigerian.

naijaboy756:
He would have chickened out. He would have been sore afraid,given up the struggle and left South Africa as a country still under apartheid. He wouldn't mind the *slave toga*. Like Mandela, Like Kanu... Real men!!!!

I`m surprised that when you start a thread like this, you still manage to find people that consider it necessary to come down to your tribalistic level.

The question now should be what to replace the legislative body with; we have seen enough to know that we would never move forward with them in place as law-makers for Nigeria. It`s easy to elect a good President, but we would never have good law-makers. The Presidency proposes while the Parliament disposes. In other words, democracy is structured in a way that makes the legislature superior to the executive. I would repeat that once the constitution tells a group of people that they are superior to the President, it puts the system in jeopardy, especially in Africa. So our thoughts should be on what to put together to serve as appropriate checks and balances on the Presidency. What we call legislature today, is not fit for purpose!

Johnnyessence:
i love ur write up here oooo.waooo love ur write up.we should be asking the fraud senators series of question ooo.most of them are thieves especially the corrupt senate president we have.The Lord will surely remove him from that seat. saraki should honorably resign and face his charges.

I agree totally!!

Johnnyessence:
Hope is almost lost in the Senate.....They are there only for themselves, protecting their interests. Let me begin with the so called constituency projects allocated to each senator, who collects over # 500m per year, bringing it to be over # 2billion for 4 years of the tenure. And by the time they implement the "projects", they dig boreholes, about 30, for the constituency; buy "dividends" like fridges, motorcycles, generators etc. and for the whole 4 years which will not cost
# 200m . Where is #1.8billion? Apart from this, salaries and allowances are also there. l am very sure no matter how bad the economy is, all their entitlements come first. My suggestions:
1. that Senate should be no more.
2. that only house of Representatives should be in place.
3. that each state should produce three (3) representatives instead of nine (9) which means each representative should come from each senatorial district.
4. that the representatives should not be given salaries but sitting allowances. I think the issue of killings during the electoral periods
will be reduced or put to an end. God Nigeria!https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1017720354989383&id=100002542848735&refid=7&_ft_=qid.6276744759197456425%3Amf_story_key.-356964670729475695&__tn__=*s

I have always believed that Buhari would do what no other President had done before, and that is making us question the entire concept of democracy. Buhari is the first natural-born leader to govern Nigeria in a civilian capacity ( I know some people would not like to hear that ) that is going to remove the question of whether it`s leadership that is our problem or followership. Today, Nigerians have started to question the entire concept of democracy. This thread fits perfectly into that. In a democracy, the Parliament is superior to the Presidency, especially, in a presidential system of government. The question is, once you bring Nigerians together and tell them that they are superior to the President, can you expect them to be up to any good? OP asking whether the Parliament, as currently constituted, should go and be replaced with something smaller ignores the fact that, whoever you put in the Parliament would continue to hold the Presidency to ransom, because the constitution puts them above the law. I always say that, if the constitution puts you above the law, you should know that you are not above the country. For there to be peace, stability and rapid development in Africa, the legislature would have to be totally different from what it`s today.

CFCman:
Britain hasn't really benefitted from being an EU member. The country's unemployment problem has been exercerbated by the presence of undocumented Eastern European immigrants

Over a million Brits live and work in EU countries. And you wouldn`t have the employment rights you have today in the UK if not because of the European Union. I think you read too many right-wing newspapers.

Diamondpicture:
Give me the name of any Nigerian that is worth celebrating who is corrupt free

Nuru Ribadu, Prof Wole Soyinka and Ebitu Ukiwe

Diamondpicture:
Who is the ooni of ife for his birthday to be celebrated world wide the people of ife can celebrate him and we Nigerians can always celebrate him But the queen can be celebrated worldwide but why must you use the ooni for reference what about the sultan of sokoto and the oba of Benin and the obi of onitsha

Oh! Is Northern Ireland not part of the UK? Why are they not joining you to celebrate your mum, or are they?

Well done, PDP! This is a President that said Nigeria cannot afford to give stipend to the un-employed yet his own children are living it to the fullest.
Unimpressed!!

ozoebuka1:
What's going to change it then? I guess these will change it
1. Dogmatizing every Nigerian child that "we are the leaders of tomorrow " when those that told them that said it to the children's fathers 20 years ago?
2. By dogmatizing every Nigerian citizen with the quote "our unity lies in our diversity " when it's vivid to outsiders that monotony is our second name.
3. By telling every Nigerian I see as on social media, streets,. market place and school that "we must come together as one if we really want to move this country forward " as we normally do year in year out as if we've been apart since 1914.....
I can go on and on but truth be told am tired of hearing those things, they are bores and pains to my ears and should be same to anyone that. means well for Nigeria.... Check all the speeches being made by our leaders, all they say bothers on those 3 quotes and the annoying thing is that After saying them, they relax and wait until election day to feast on what they enjoy most Which is tribalism and the cycle continues... I'm tired of false hopes if u ain't yet, that's ur problem.

Look,regionalism was embraced before in Nigeria, how well did it go? You can take it or leave it, but nothing is stopping any Nigerian state from doing well today, yet at any point in time you hardly find 5 states in our federation doing well. Have you noticed that our people are more united ( especially Igbo and Yoruba ) when they get to the Parliament? Why do you think that is? Everything you wrote here is mere rhetoric, and the fake leaders saying them have characteristics that are incompatible with their wonderful rhetorics.
I have one question for you though: among the Nairalanders you know to have been displaying progressive and detribalized approach to political discussions here on Nairaland, how many of them have you ever invited for dinner?

ozoebuka1:
are they united now? will they start being united if they stay as Nigerians for a thousand years?.... if an igbo man isn't united in today's Nigeria with his kinsman as u are sarcastically implying through ur question, How much more with a Yoruba or an Hausa. man? staying in Nigeria wouldn't make him start liking any of them....
don't get me wrong ... I love Nigeria very much, but it seems like nothing is working and will ever work .. am just suggesting what might help everyone move forward.

The point is, there is no evidence to back up the theory that the South-East would do better than it`s doing now should we decentralize. In other words, lack of decentralization is not affecting Igbo anymore than it`s affecting other regions in Nigeria. Ndigbo have this tendency to bring everything that is wrong with the South-East down to others and I see that as a problem.
I believe the African society needs to adjust and change one or two things before politics can work. A big country has advantages and disadvantages. The Nigeria we have today is not working because a foreign political system is imported into a totally different culture of ours. Separation is not going to change that.

ozoebuka1:
the funny thing is that we will all gather here and lament as usual and afterwards we will relegate back to supporting our tribes' man that is in power.... a sincere mind knows that our basic problem lies in tribalism I.e supporting people from our tribe even when it's very clear he's committed a crime..... I wonder why we shouldn't advocate that this country be made to function in such a way that tribal prejudice won't be given a chance to play a part.... Why can't all the citizens of Nigeria stand up and advocate for true federalism or better still dissolution of this country?
every sane mind knows that this will propel every region forward but due to lack of confidence some pipo has failed to accept this venture.... "How depressing".... "our" own doesn't really bring the effects "my" own brings yet we've refused to imbibe it in the issues concerning Nigeria... How I wish I have the power but then, what do I know?

You mind educating me on how united Ndigbo is in case we decentralize?

Oh yes, Nigeria was great before and would be great again; we just need to get our priorities right

"[b] There is today in Nigeria an entire generation of Nigerian men and women who do not actually know , to borrow Achebe`s words that indeed `there was once a country`. Those children born in a season of austerity and raised during the years that the locusts ate, have become angry citizens. They are angry because they live in a country that makes them feel less worthy. The only Nigeria that they know is a country that makes them feel ashamed of their own origins

How could we have forgotten? How can we possibly forget? That this was once a country where Nigerians felt at home in virtually any part of the country... There was a civil war yes, and things began to change but even after the war it was never this bad
In this same country, the naira used to be at par with the pound and was for many years stronger than the dollar...so strong was the naira that many Nigerians including the lower and the middle class could afford to travel to London on Friday evening, and attend a party in London on Saturday, attend church service on Sunday....and return to Nigeria early enough on Monday morning to be able to go to work. All that was no big deal

Everyone in London knew the Nigerians. There was Nigeria Airways owned and operated by the Nigerian government and it was one of the best airlines in Africa. Its pilots were rated among the best in the world. Its safety record was superb. And it was affordable. It was the pride of the nation. Within the country, Nigeria Airways was also efficient. A trip from Lagos to Calabar in those days was just 44 naira. Students enjoyed rebates too

In this same country, once upon a time, public transportation system was impressive. That may sound like something being made up to the younger generation, but it is nothing but the truth. The railway system worked too, and one of the most prestigious jobs was to be a railway staff. That same Nigerian Railway Corporation that is now a parody of its former self, used to link up the entire country and it helped to build up cities and villages, as the various major train stations became commercial centres.

Once upon a time in this same country, those who sent their children abroad did so majorly out of choice, not necessity, because Nigerian schools were among the best in the continent and the world. Teachers from different parts of the world, the best and the brightest, sought employment in Nigerian schools
In this same country, we used to have industrial estate, in Lagos, Apapa, Ikeja and Isolo were industrial estates. In Kaduna, Jos and Enugu, manufacturing companies created jobs and wealth. We had uncles and aunties who used to do shifts in many factories and this country produces things: from refrigerators to bulbs to vehicles to metals to books to textiles to shoes
Sad: many of those factories have become churches!

In the larger society, the present regime of no water, no fuel, no electricity was unheard of...
There was in fact at a time, the Nigerian Standard and this was the standard that other Africans look up to. This same country dominated the continent, morally, intellectually and culturally. Financially too: so rich was Nigeria that a former Head of State reportedly boasted that our problem was not money but how to spend it " - By Reuben Abati [/b]

moneybag100:
Bro, add Austria to your list, that country is fu,cking rich too and not polluted with refugee like Germany.

No, not for a family. I think we come from two different perspectives. For me, the bigger the country and population, the better for an immigrant, especially the one with family. We can`t ignore the Germany of today because she is the indisputable power-house of Western Europe, but it`s still the type of place where you are more likely to be asked whether you were living on trees back in Africa or whether you just cut your tails before your arrival. Therefore I would still choose The Netherlands for a young family ahead of Germany. Austria is mini-Germany with less than 10 million population. If wealth is the attraction, I think Switzerland is not in EU but it`s part of Schengen, just like Norway, so I would choose Switzerland ahead of Austria. A single male in his 20s or 30s can go and struggle anywhere, but one must be careful when it involves a family.

That is a very good advice!

luvprince4real:
For those with experience or those with d idea. a family want to relocate to europe and need ur advice on a gud country in europe to live in. Sudgest with ur reasons plz.

I think people have given you good pieces of advice. Since you are a family that gives me the impression that you want to settle down there. So let`s restrict ourselves to Western Europe. I guess you are a Nigerian which means that the English language matters. That would then limit you to the only two countries that have English as lingua franca in Western Europe: United Kingdom and Ireland. If you ask me where to choose between the two countries, it would be the UK all day long. Why? The population of The Republic of Ireland is less than 5 million while that of Uk is almost 70 million. I think that matters because the more the people the better your chances...all other things being equal.. Moreover UK has the largest population of Nigerians in Western Europe.

Now, if you don`t mind living in a country that doesn`t have English as the official language, then Germany, Holland and the Scandinavian countries are the best in Western Europe. The truth is that if you live outside Holland, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden it means you have not lived in one of the best countries in Europe.

But you have a Nigerian family, looking forward to raising your children in Europe, as well as looking for a salaried job or self-employed, I think your best bet is the United Kingdom. Let me point out that Ireland uses the Euro while UK uses the Pounds Sterling that might become more significant in the next two months. Good luck

The Daily Telegraph had already published what the UK thinks about Nigeria, so the government should stop pretending. It`s high time London concentrated on the problems facing London and leave Nigeria alone. It`s a country that may soon cease to exist anyway. Why should Nigeria care about what tax-dodging criminals think?

Brilliant Nigeria 1 - Bloody America 0

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