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@ Topic. The issue isn't if MI is good or not. It has been universally agreed that he is. The question is, is he overrated? This isn't a "show MI how much we love him topic" Please can people try and answer topics constructively and to the point. The endless recycling of MI is the greatest IS REALLY BORING. For me MI is overrated. He is good, but he has no credible competition and when there is no competition, you win by default. Lyrically to me Mode 9 is better (my opinion, before the YOU ARE A HATER BRIGADE come and start screaming), but MI is more of the complete package for commercial success. He goes for the wow factor punchlines, which sound impressive as soundbites, but are not as much so in the greater context of a song. However, he knows his market and he knows that for naija, that's all they're interested in. I've listened to his album a couple of times and i find it to be like a one trick pony. Like a CGI film. Once you get over the effects (or in his case, the punchlines), it became a bit boring. I commend him for bringing hip-hop back to the forefront (cause i love hiphop), but i just see him as Nateo C with better rhyming skills, good hype machine and good timing. Album is good, but definitely not what I will call a classic. 3/5 |
chibic:Well if you put it that way, yes, that is what i'm saying. He isn't. So sue me |
An attempt at a cute song, which ends up sounding sickly sweet. Will probably work well at birthday parties and weddings. Tempo isn't fast enough for the dance floor and not sure if it will do well on radio either. However, i saw kenny in the video, so it will probably be played to death. Resistance is futile. 2/5 |
Darey is not playing oh! His videos definitely don't come cheap. I just wonder about who his target audience is though. Man on the street, VI crowd, himself. The breaks in this song make it hard to dance to and the lyrics while good, just dont do it for me 2.5/5 |
A lyricist drops rhymes over a beat that make you see what he's saying and feel it as well. |
For me, Lord of Ajasa. I may not understand what he's saying, but his flow is way better. Just because you can talk over a record doesn't make you a rapper. |
Well i'm glad someone said something before i did. On Nairaland, the second you don't support popular opinion, your a hater. Maybe some people on here should actually listen to the lyrics of Crowd Mentality. MI is good, no doubt, but rap messiah, saviour, the best in Africa, please, get a grip. He came along at the right time. As Bamstyle correctly said, there was a gap in the market and he took it. People were tired of ruggedman (i think he's fallen off personally) and Mode 9's jams while lyrically on point, don't appeal to the masses per se. So MI comes along with some clever punchlines, a decent delivery and a very good hype machine and all of a sudden, he's raps messiah. As Bamstyle correctly said, we need a bit more consistency to determine if he is truely the best. He has good punchlines, but that doesn't make a rap classic. |
If you just want to promote the single. Do so. Why use a bogus title. It's counter productive. Believe me. |
rapjunkie: I can do better than that. Lets say you go to a designer and tell them to make you a one off dress. Exclusive. He then asks one of his friends to help him out with the stitch to make the design better. They show you the dress, you're happy with it and pay for it. Happy in the knowledge that you are the only one that owns that dress in the whole world. The next day, you get all dressed up in your new dress and go for an awards ceremony. Lo and behold as you get there, the press are swarming around somebody else wearing the exact same dress as you. The dress is a hit. And you guessed it, the girl that did the stitch is wearing it. When you confront her, she says, well i helped with the stitch, so i have a right to wear the dress and the designer made it, so he can sell it to whoever he wants. How will you feel? Hope this simplifies it for you. |
Shaz:Thank you. That's all i'm saying |
ofokasibe:I no dey oh? ![]() |
westcodes:Can't believe Don Jazzy signed him. They must be related. With all the hot Mc's out in naija now, there is no other logical explanation. |
All you guys sucking MI's D***, please give it a rest. It's becoming majorly boring. He's good. We get it. And before you start with your usual "hater this, hater that talk" give that a rest as well. It's equally boring. Surely in the whole wide world of Naija hiphop, there must be someone else to talk about. |
khanye:Naija and hating. Everything is hating. He does it because he loves it, but like i said before, man must wack. Anyway, i rest my case. If he comes on this forum (and i'm pretty sure he does), i hope he grabs something and rejuvenates his career, because i personally hope he does. Like i said, lyrically, he's nice with the verb. |
khanye:Jokes and insults aside Khanye, if you are a true fan of Mode 9 (bordering on fanatical in your case), then you should help dude. He doesn't need yes men like you telling him how great he is on forums, meanwhile no hit records, no endorsements, no bucks. He needs practical help. Hip Hop is constantly evolving. If you don't evolve with it, you get so left behind. Mode's choice of beats aren't what people are bubbling to in Naija at the moment. His lyrics don't connect with the masses. You do realize that in the real world, the guy has to pay rent, eat and feed himself. The Paradigm Shift might be an album with all the lyrical wordplay, but i can assure you, there is no heat on the album, so it won't sell and if it doesn't sell, he doesn't get paid. He needs a reality check. I expect your usual tirade of insults, but this is real talk. My 3 kobo |
Emphasis EP Big Deal, is not on the list either. Were talking about Nigeria's first ever hiphop group, EVER. For my money, if anyone paved the way, they did. They showed that pidgin rap could be popular and commercially viable. They laid down the original Blue Print. Even RuggedMan sites them as an influence. |
I always enjoy these Mode 9 threads. People get so passionate. Mode 9 to me is a lyrical giant, but these days, you need a lot more than that to stay in the game. For me, i don't think the ladies cared about the song, cause they're not checking for Mode 9 anyway. All i see on these forums is pure man, defending mode 9 like he's God and then asking for free download links to his shit. If you guys are true fans (Khanye, i mean you), then help the guy out in the real world. Help organize a street team. Help drive up sales. Help find out why lyrics alone are not enough for him. When people are offering opinions on the forum, listen. Don't always take it as negative critiscm. Bottom line is, Mode 9 needs a club banger or a radio smash. You can dress it up anyway you like, but all the best rappers need them and have them. Naeto C may not be the best lyrically, but he's more of the complete package. Same goes for MI. You need a good mix in an album. Something for the heads, the ladies and the clubs. If Mobb Deep can do it. So can Mode. My 2 kobo |
brein:No be to support for mouth. The album is available online. Go and buy it. |
rundown828:cmon man, we need solutions, not statement of fact |
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koffman007:No offense Koffman (just in case your Lambo using an alias), but i find it insulting that you are suggesting that lyrics have to be dumbed down as far as this for the average Nigerian to understand them. Here's my theory, this is Lambo Da Viruses lyrical prowess at it's best and it tells us all we need to know about the Nigerian music industry. Now that there is money in it, everybody thinks they are a rapper. After all, you don't have to have talent. Just make the track, no matter how dumb the lyrics are, have a half decent flow or none at all and then pay for the rest. Can't believe you're actually trying to justify them. ![]() |
rapjunkie: if he really said that, then he's wack |
There is more to hiphop than just dropping punchline after punchline. If you check the lyrical of all the top rappers, they are all story tellers. Their rapping about something. weaving a tale together using words, simile and verbs as their yarn. It doesn't matter who you are, if you have some idea of rhyming structure and you sit down long enough with a dictionary and theasaurus, you will be the punchline king in no time. Listen to the big hits - Stan by Eminem, Hero by Nas, My life - The Game, Get up - 50cent. They're telling stories not just dropping punchlines for the sake of it. In a freestyle or battle fine, but it's not enough for actual songs on an album. After the 3rd song, i always get bored. My personal opinion |
Na wah oh In naija everything is payola. Thank God the air is still free or everyone will have suffocated to death by now. |
rapjunkie: is it that obvious? I will like to think that there is some accountability. That posting on Nairaland isn't the only option. |
Now that the music industry is growing exponentially in Naija, it's time other aspects of the game developed with it. Like Copyright infringement, publishing revenues and beat ownership. ID cabasa's explanation sounds like rubbish. Like what a child will say. He has been caught red handed. Between him and 9ice, they should apologize and settle the guy. I thought there was PMAN in nigeria? What exactly are they doing |
As vector is to Jay-Z Pype is to Sean Paul No originality. Studied the style and replicated it almost exactly. But it will go down a storm in Naija, zombiefication is very common and is even encouraged. |
While i understand that man must wack (including DJ's) there is also an issue of pride. Dj's all over the world take sweeteners. It's part and parcel of the job, but the difference is, they will still do their job. A Dj should feel proud to discover young talent and help break it to the mainstream. The payola attitude has perpetrated itself to every aspect of Nigerian culture, to the point that it is now morally ambiguous. DJ's are the bridge between the artist/record label and the public. If they hear a good song, a hit record, it's their responsibility to bring it to the masses. Not sit around waiting for money before they play. Nigerians tend to be small minded. If a DJ builds a reputation of consistently discovering new acts, he can syndicate his show and possibly sell it or even use his reputation to enter TV (like Jatt). Instead what tends to happen, is we have to listen to the crapiest, most repetitive records on the planet which have obviously been paid for. Rep your football team ![]() ?? What the F*** is that S*** doing anywhere. |
Mode 9 for me. MI's album is a good debut, but lyrically Mode 9 is more my thing. All he needs is a hit record to realize his potential and maybe subject matters that the average nigerian/african can relate to. @ Rapjunkie. I thought you didn't like Mode9? |
olayokun:omo, the guy doesn't want to talk to you, take a hint. And what's up with the don't let the thread die, Nairalanders are weird |
@ Lalaboi, thanks for the PM about the rules and regulations. Duely noted khanye:LOL, is this how you guys play here. Ya'll are nasty. Can't we all just get along? hahaha. Well everyone is entitled to their opinion so i guess it's okay. But i must agree with Rapjunkie, you have to be objective. If na bad belle for bad belle sake, then that na different matter. For me, wack is a strong term and he is definitely not wack. His flow is original. It's not punchline galore like MI, but it's still cool. Now i have to admit, i'm curious. Does anyone have a link to the Iyabo Track? |
Mode 9 should stop worrying about what Rugged is doing and focus on his own career. At the end of the day, i don't care if you are a lyrical giant, man must wack. The music industry is based on hit records. HIT RECORDS. Not self indulgent Records. ModeNine needs to come out of his comfort zone and show his true potential, He can rap, but that has never been enough to be a giant in the game. |

