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[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=175953.msg2855011#msg2855011 date=1222377428]. But he insisted and said calmly:

                '. . . He wants you to see what He can do; because He said your dad called Him "LORD!"'

Just as more of a joke than anything else, I obliged to pray as a "Christian". . . the only problem was that I would never call Jesus "Lord", and I yet I did not know how to pray a Christian prayer. My boyfriend said Christian prayer was not a ritual; I could pray just as I would have a frank conversation with Jesus.

So, I closed my eyes and (although being sarcastic in my heart), I blurted out: "Jesus, please heal *Joe." I paused, not knowing what next to say. . . and I was about to stutter the subsequent sentence when Joe rolled off the couch and started slowly jumping up! He ran and hugged me and started shouting praises to Jesus Christ! What?!? What was happening here? Whether I believed it or not, Joe had been instantly healed!
Confused, scared, and defeated, I ran home, flung myself to the floor and half-cried and half-prayed that Jesus should be my Saviour. I craved peace, love and deliverance! I wanted Him for real. Please! Please! O pleeeeease![/quote]Interesting pilgrim! Until this, sorry I couldn't resist but girl, you've been had big time!

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@olabowale,

May Allah continue to be your strenght. Ko ni re yin o! Amin

@pilgrim

Interesting story!

I'm in the US, Let me know if I can help in any way. ayinba@yahoo.com

@dotman
Easy on yourself, he said Amsterdan, is it possible that none of the muslims on nairaland lives in amsterdan? Very!

And again, having sex with someone you are not married to is wrong, be  it muslim or non muslim

Thanks a zil! I thought I could sneak one in before "safu" 

Most of these thing I must have been taught during MSS in the North, but it's been 16 years!

Thank you all for being my selfless refreshers.

Salam alaykum warahmatullah,

Please what is the correct etiquette for Jumah prayers?

Viz nafilat 1. if I arrive on time before the sermon
2. if I arrive during the sermon
3. if I arrive at the end of the sermon

Thank you

Audhu biLLAhi mina shaytan ir rajim!

@babs, olabowale,

Sorry I have to ask this but the thread WILL be derailed if you continue to pay heed to nimshi. I warned about controversy from the onset. The Prophet of Allah has also warned us about it! Are we wiser than Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)?

@nimshi

I read your response to my questions about you, thank you. If you have answers to any questions that I or anyone has posted on Salat, feel free to post it.

But this is Ramadan, let us leave shaytan in its chains!

Salam to all

Are you really for real? Or just plain lying? No muslim , none at all, worships any other than ALLAH (SWT).

Hope you are not confusing "Muslim " with "Christian"?

affee:
please tell me this is not true

if it's true then

How is it a problem for you?

rampagain:
@olabs

when he saent moses to rescue the people of israel from egyptians

moses asked him--------who do i tell them sent me?

God answered--------------tell them I AM THAT I AM has sent You

olabowale,solve d puzzle yourself,sod d name i listed above and many more is what my God is called in the bible


LLION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDEA----------IS ONE OF THE NAMES HES CALLED

we worship jesus,thank God for that

at d same time You people worship mohammed that killed millions of souls for hes own satisfaction,what do You call that one?

Thank God for ur d god or God You serve

like i said d names i listed above are the names hes known with in the bible,and will continue to be known wt till infinity

Go learn from your fellow mentors, or at least don't lie, Muslims worhip ALLAH!

Thanks Dis Guy!

You are correct. We need education not only in the North of Nigeria (not only muslims) but everywhere else. When people truly understand Islam, they will see no need for such violence.

@Queenisha

Thank you very much! For the first time, you actually post sense.

And yes, we are happy to have the time to practice sunnah!

Thanks for exposing your ignorance and falsehood, pilgrim.

Hope you find your way!

I can't keep up with your load of c--p!

I believe that Babs did the question of muta marriage justice. If we are indeed in search for truth and to improve our observance  of Islamic injunctions, we need to not leave leprosy to progress and wage war  against ringworm, kapish!

@Nimshi,

You have  posted some terms here that I have never heard before, I do not know if you are a muslim or not but I checked back through your posts;

Nimshi:
Mr. mazaje: I just read your post #2, for where you bin write:

My bros, hmnnn,  no be so o.

First of all, no be all atheists be rationalists; e no good make we merge them together.

Second of all, no be all theists dey claim say de get truth o. You go find some theists, them go tell you say them dey always search for truth correct. And as for the Moslem & Christian brothers & sister, no be all of them be like that. We must try be careful to merge everybodi. No be say na only you get di fault o, me ma sef dey do am sometimes.

My favourite senior pastor don enter TV. I dey come..

and I do not see any where you used the word "Salam", If you are so knowledgeable, how come you cannot spell ALLAH Akbar

Nimshi:
Alahu Akbar!

One of my favourites is:

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

We can learn many things from the Holy Quran. Alahu Akbar!

And yes the verse you quoted above is good injunction from ALLAH, the Wise!


You must know that the world is really  a small place,

Nimshi:
Yeye nonsense.

Even Jesus work part time for instant-party brewery.

If people drunk, na them wahala be that.

Person wey put rat poison for food, na di fault of di chemist wey mix di poison?

Everytin for im own use, for the right quantity.

As them talk for bible: na wine dey make person heart jolly.

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Back to the issue, in the Holy Quran, Allah commanded muslims to drink and gamble less as there is more harm than good in  it, but before the  completion of revelation of thee Quran, ALlah forbade it. And as it stands today, it is HARAM  to gamble, or to drink alcohol.  So why do you want Babs to agree with your statement below?

Nimshi:
Now, to the substance of your post:


Let's stop here for now.

1) The above is a clear admission that there (at least) was Mut'a in Islam. Do you disagree?
2) It is a fact that the Prophet (PBUH) 'allowed' Mut'a marriage. Do you disagree?

The above needs to be established before moving forward. It is my hope that you're able to respond unambiguously.
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So who/what exactly are you? You have consistently evaded the question of "are you a muslim"? I have agreed with some of your responses on this board but this one makes me doubt your sincerity.

I think that your action points either to not knowing or deliberately wanting to mislead.

@nimshi,

Purpose of the thread? I thought that I was pretty clear. Pardon me but can you break the statement below down into a layman's term(s)?

Nimshi:
As to the purpose of the thread, it's more like a living plant than a building of concrete. I believe you should understand that.
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@nimshi

Hmnnnn, reminds me of when I just joined nairaland. I hope you will understand soon enough.

tpia is pretty much deaf/blind. No insult meant. He neither sees what you write nor hear it if read to him and he has a foul mouth hand.

Alhamdulillah! We are thankful for this blessed month.

I hope we all make the best of it

May Allah accept it from us AMIN

Salaam

@reindeer,

With one's understanding of the media and how it works, it maybe very wrong to say that Islamic leaders keep silent when violence occurs.

reindeer:
like i said
things like bloodletting will continue as long as their leaders keep a consenting silence.
if only the so called leaders can come out and denounce such acts when they occur then the little ones may realise that kiling or spilling blood isnt the best way to serve their God.
But i can bet you, even if they end up killing the poor guy, most islamic leaders will just stay silent rather than berate the 'misguided' youths.

Here in the US, there are alot of muslims and muslim organisations that spoke and  acted against the terrorism events, that carry out a lot of humanitarian activities, but how much airtime do they get? Virtually none.

@mukina2
kemisuga is most def not a muslimah, just check back a few posts!

Backslider:
I will rather live in hell with Jesus than live in heaven with Demon possesed Muhamed.

Hmnnn! Do you have any idea what hell is? Or are you just plain  :-{} ?

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]Dear ayinba1,

Christianity actually opened my eyes to the fraud that Islam has always been, thank you.

You can shout it with even point 1,200 font - you know that no Christian ever refers to God as an "artifact" or "contraption" - so who's manifesting the liar-syndrome now? It is not a new thing for muslims to "manifest", because I've been there, done and out - goodnews: I'm never returning.[/quote]@pilgrim,

you jumped on the triune artifact wagon, it must be that, that's what you worship. My reason for making it really bold and large is because you and david decided to rephrase and wrongly  quote me. Succintly put, that is LYING.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]What's my worry? Are you disappointed at your own mishap?[/quote]Which one

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]I have never bothered reading the Quran the very day I rejected allah.[/quote]I posted re read your bible, don't be in such a hurry.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]My dear, I left the religion of denials (ROD) long ago when I realized that I had no reason or justification to vilify Christians and Jews.[/quote]Good riddance! You never practised Islam.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]Have you read me referring to Allah as an artifact anywhere?[/quote]You said "traditional muslims"? Such a short memory or  is david not christian enough for you?

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2840474#msg2840474 date=1222154638]Why? Because as a muslimah, that has always been the default hooha Muslims cried when they felt it was their birthright to vilify other people.

Why should I educate Christians with Muslim lies? They have always known the duplicity we as Muslims waved in their faces (until I became the wiser and left Islam)[/quote]. 

I highlighted the word "vilify" to make it clear again that you were never a muslim. No muslim sets out to do this to anyone.

Did the Quran not describe Christians as ". . .men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" [Sura 5 vs 82, Yusuf Ali]?!?

The full verse from Quran 5, verse 82

[Yusufali 5:82] Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.

Nothing new. Your type would only "believe" I was truly a former muslimah if I continued your campaign to vilify Christians and Jews. I did it before and was highly praised by many muslims.

I highlighted the word "vilify" to make it clear again that you were never a muslim. No muslim sets out to do this to anyone.

@pilgrim

Did Christianity turn you to a liar Or have you always been one?

I repeat, ALLAH is NOT the same as your TRIUNE ARTIFACT or TRIUNE CONTRAPTION. [color=#990000][/color]

Look, this is not a play on words. If you must say "according to Ayinba1" have the decency to quote me correctly (even on the same page!)
If ONE God is so complex to you, you really need to re read your Bible. What you worship needs two or three more entities to be worthy of worship, mine is just One, ALLAH, the Greatest.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=159045.msg2839162#msg2839162 date=1222114892]That is quite mild - slurring the convictions of other people has become the traditional Muslim thing to do, because by default Islam cannot allow you to breathe until you foam out your venom at the Biblical faith.[/quote]You make me laugh, I think you would have done better to not  write this. Did you read upside down all the posts david and his likes post about "allah"? Ha! Maybe you need glasses. Please go back  and read it and sttop playing the victim.

I am appalled that you claim you were once a muslim. You cannot even educate your co xtians that Allah is God. I seriously doubt that you were a muslim.

@kemisuga,

Your question was answered, then you resort to sarcasm. You are not a muslim, the rule pretty much does not govern you. What do you hope to gain by your post?

@tpia and Gamine,

You are not muslims, why does anyone owe it to you to explain the reason why muslims should not talk in the TOILET.

Please, Christian tpia and gamine, use your toothbrush to scrub your toilet, rinse (or maybe not), brush your teeth with it, rinse and repeat; all the while singing "songs of praises". hey, it's your party, knock yourselves out

Thanks everyone.

My little girl runs head on into me during prayers and I let out an audible "ouch" (Yes it hurt), Does this nullify the salat? Do I need to start over? Thank you.

gbyg:
Argument for or against the truth does not change or validate it authenticity. I want to shout to everyone without mixing words that JESUS Christ is the Son of Mary. And I don't believe that we are serving the same GOD with Muslim. Muslim "Allah" is not the God Jehovah we know in the Bible. My God has a son, he is the creator of heaven and earth. And any one that rejects this truth should be rest assure that when Christ shall sit on the Judgement throne in the judgement day, will be condemn for ever.


Point of correction if you are a believer in Christ, is not proper for you to be addressin Jesus Christ as JC.

JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD. Hallelujah

I agree with you, Allah cannot be  the same as your triune artifact. I disagree though that Jesus (AS) created the heavens and the earth.  Andknow that Allah is the Judge on the day of judgement. He shares his throne with NOONE.

If you take other gods other than ALLAH, you have become one of those utterly doomed.

joyce550:
yes JESUS IS LORD, look at it this way,u hv a soul,spirit and a body.will u say u are u,then ur spirit is someone else and ur soul is someone else?or wil u call ice block from the same water another name or its vapour something else?another is the sun,it shines light,emitts heat and gives energy.can't u see the even natuer tries to teach u about the three natures of God.all these have different forms and performs different functions but doesn't mean they are different.so is God,Jesus and the Holy Spirit.i trust that the Lord will grant u insight into his truth.ciao!

Pretty much same as idolators three godhead. Check out Hinduism, Greek ancient religion etc

If backslider is a woman, she must be a pissed one. I recall backslider being an outcast even among the christians. Some hibernation!

@bilymuse

muslims are not bloodthirsty

@bawomolo

Thanks for your input.

@Zayhal, Babs

Thank you

Asr prayers are not followed by Nafilat?, however, can I do nafilat before Maghrib prayers (when I get into the mosque)?

@Babs

Thank you for this Hadith. I believe we need this reminder, sometimes we get carried away, may Allah subhana wata ala forgive us, Amin

Assalam alaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuhu,

Insha Allah I will be starting new threads over the next few days, they pertain to acts of faith – salat, alms, etc. Please your input will be highly appreciated. I know that I will learn from it and I believe that the ummah will too,

On Salat:

If one misses an obligatory prayer, (eg Zuhr) is it right to join a congregational prayer for the next one (Asr) without first performing the missed salat?

What is the way to go when you have done the above?

Should you move your finger when you do attahiyat? I remember a lecture saying you may or may not. I just want to be sure that it does not nullify my prayer.

Please note that there may be difference of opinion on these topics, let us remember that the Prophet of Allah warned us about irrelevant thing creating divisions amongst us.

So bottom line, if these questions fall under “yes” by some scholars and “No” by others,
May Allah guide us to the straight path. Amin

dragnet:
Salaam a'laykum,. . .

. . .Here's a case study which I want us all to analyze n comment on

1st CASE :. ., there's a christian guy who has been involvd in illegal intercourse with someone else but is now willing to convert to a muslim & get married to an untouched muslim gurl. . . . .

Wrong! wrong! wrong! on all fronts. Is the reason for conversion to touch an untouched muslim girl? That is absolutely vile. If not, since he has had a fair amount of touching, why is it critical to get an untouched girl?

Sorry that I cannot quote the Hadith but it is pretty much an injustice when an adulterer seeks a non adulteress.

I know brother Ola will have some input for you

dragnet:
2nd CASE : this case is similar to the 1st case but places are switchd etci.e the gurl that now takes the place of the guy & the guy takes the place of the gurl in the 1st case. . . . . .

pretty much the same

My dear brother Ola and fellow muslims,

Let us be very cautious about posters here that mislead us into thinking that marrying/"dating" non muslims is done only by Yoruba muslims. We should condemn this act as Allah and His prophet (SAW) have done.

Muslims --period. Even for men, it is not advisable. I know our brothers do it a lot too but at the end of the day, it's more often than not a loss for them. their wives and kids do not practice Islam.

So can you tell me that you have searched unsuccessfully to find a muslim woman before settling for a non muslim, it is a huge gamble that is not worth it.

I know a number of non Yoruba muslim women that went with non muslims.
Bottom line is we need to set our priorities straight.

May Allah subhana wata ala be our strenght