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freecocoa: You already have it na

I'm 100% serious.

Freecocoa can i have your number?

I actually don't collect a girl's number unless i intend calling her.

Iolo: This article is referring to the old local airport for those in doubt.

Was there a few weeks ago and the place is completely changed. The main structure is a transparent glass house with some brown padding on the sides.

Really nice work I must say.

Tho the building itself is done, can't say for the finishing, lightening etc. Easy for this to be ready within 3 mths if they are serious sha.

Would have taken pics but didn't want any issues with the Mopol men stattioned there.

Why was the old local airport refurbished? What happens to MMA2 built by Bicourtney?

OP
In the eyes of God, is there any difference between a regular person and a pastor? Who is a pastor by the way.

ba7man: Thank you my bro. I used to think like them too. I don't know how you can see all the signs of an improving economy around u nd still not belive. Old buildings are being torn down for new ones, big buildings are appearing once again, hotels, clubs, bars, new cars on the roads.....is it only frauds, Government officials and Criminals that patronize these places So every sucessful man i see must be a criminal?? I see why a lot of people will remain average or poor.....its their mentality that holds them down.

You my friend don't get the point. People are saying you don't use car import to justify a booming economy. Spain's economy is crashing but some guys over there are getting richer, some people are also buying cars and building houses.
If the OP had said elite cars on Nigerian streets, nobody would have said a word.

ROSSIKE: ^^^ Illiterate!

Actually you are the illiterate. where have you seen car purchase only used as the basis of a booming economy?
Has the number of jobless people reduced?
Has GDP increased?
Has income per capital in Nigeria increased?
Has the quality of life of the people improved?

ROSSIKE: Consumer spending is rising across the board in Nigeria (9% per annum - all-time high). As bankers are losing jobs so are other bankers and other professions - including entrepreneurs getting hired and succeeding.



Car sales are down in all those countries commensurate with their economic travails.

So where did you get data that car sales are up in Nigeria?

Rossikk: Actually, a rise in car purchases, including quality car purchases, points to a corresponding rise in consumer income, consumer spending and consumer confidence, which points to a growing/improving economy.

Perhaps you should study economics before posting on these issues.

Dude you must be one hell of an economist. I guess bankers losing jobs on a daily basis and the falling Naira also mean a booming economy.

PS: Spain and Italy are in trouble financially does that mean no one is by exotic cars in those countries?

Op with you pics, upload it on cnn Ireport.

Like Apple never copied anything before.
Abeg make we hear word. How person go con beat you for your papa house? If Apple are really innovative as they claim, they should not be worried.

CAMEROONPRIDE: where did she say that all men cheat she said besides cheating her man is perfect they have 3 children ...etc u guys come here and say divorce like if the man cant change ..how many couples overcome beating cheating ? If u dont know a lot of couples went trough difficulties they talked to each other moved-on .and r now perfect. We cant live as if weakness and mistake dont exist

Mistakes happen, but the OP said she caught him once, then he changed tact not repent. I'm willing to bet that he would only change when he gets hiv, loses all his money or something that puts his life at risk and he needs her to take care of him.

Cheating with one girl i can agree mistake, cheating with several? dude spare me.
I'm not saying she should get a divorcee but she clearly believes all men cheat and i'm pretty sure her husband knows this so why would he want to be faithful when he knows she will always take him back once he says he is sorry?

CAMEROONPRIDE: goooooo lie somewhere else we all know understand why western societies hold the records of divorces and single mom in the world....u never heard the word mistake? So the man come back late u dvorce forgot to buy the oranges u asked u divorce ..forgot to pick u up u divorce..forgot or didnt pickur call u divorce ..smh marriage still has a value in our societies unlike in yours..so go spit ur venum in ur women head .our African queens are enough mature...

I actually respect a divorcee than a woman who has no self respect and believes all men cheat just because she wants to stay married. The hypocrisy that prevails thought our Africa especially in the institution of marriage is why Africa is backwards. A woman that can't demand self respect how will she teach her children to do the same?

I'm with Mynd_44 on this.
@OP you already believe that all men cheat so why are you bothered? Some of us don't believe in cheating that's why Mynd_44 thinks you are desperate. Your husband will not stop cheating he will only get smarter.

PS: For the guys saying all men cheat, please speak for yourself. Some of us Men are faithful and we demand that from our partners.

Mintayo: I hope the pastor behind your name is real,otherwise you will not be talking to a brother like that!
I totally support Him,i don't know why we christains are so short-sighted,trying to explain the things of God with reasoning when Jesus said the Holy Spirit will lead us in all truth!
If you have the Holy Spirit with you,you will seek His help and He will lead you to all truth as joe4christ has said!
Let the Holy Spirit guide you/us,not your reasoning or your pastor! I believe you don't have the Holy Spirit within you because if you do,you will not b talking like this!
I believe the problem of every1 here is not abt paying the tithe but we have problems with pastor enriching themselves by 'commanding' people to pay tithe, and if we have the Holy Spirit within us we will know that it is non of our business to know or find out what our pastors are doing with our tithe(that is if we are paying) and i know that is why most of us are in different bondage bcus of our lack of understanding of the efficacy of tithe paying!
Note that your tithe is not a tithe until you give it in your place of worship!
It is not a tithe until it passes through a priest(pastor etc)!
It is not a tithe until you have an understanding(believe in) of what you are doing!
It is not a tithe until you give it with an open mind(not thinking abt what ur pastor will do with it)!
Tithe is not a debt you owe and pay,it is a seed you sow!

Lets us check our heart and lives(especially those of us that don't pay tithe),somethings will be lacking in our lives expect we pay our tithe to God!

When two or three are gathered in my name, i am there... So my place of worship can be under the bridge with two beggars.
Its not a tithe until it passed through a pastor? I thought we were all pastors called to proclaim the good news..

I've never said tithing is wrong. Jesus says we should give with our hearts not grudgingly or out of compulsion. So i encourage people to give. Whatever name you call it(Tithe, offering, seed na you sabi.) its your choice.

On a side note, Jesus said give to the poor so many times but he never said give the {insert any name} to the poor. The key word was/is give not the name of what you are giving.

joe4christ: And why do i sense you trying to dodge the other part of that verse where he said [size=15pt]You should have
practiced the latter, without neglecting the former".[/size]
His last words there said without neglecting the
former which is the tithe. BUT, salvation and doing
Justice is more important. showing mercy also is very
important, which is like helping the poor.
Why do you twist the scripture just to suite yourself really?
Have you forgotten the very word of our lord when he said - Matthew 5:17 "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I
did not come to abolish the law of Moses
or the writings of the prophets. No, I
came to accomplish their purpose.''

I did'nt say the above, he said it so please, let's get it right while there's still opportunity to.
God bless!!!

I'm not trying to ignore anything. Its you. Jesus observed the sabbath, celebrated passover all biblical. Do you practice those too?
The law of Moses requires giving burnt sacrifices... Do you do that? If not why?

joe4christ: [size=15pt]Here are lists of all the bible verses from the Old and New
Testament that are about tithing.
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Genesis 14:20 – Melchizedek comes out to meet
Abraham, as Abraham gives him a tithe of the spoils of
his victory.
Genesis 28:20-22 – After the vision of God’s renewed
covenant, Jacob initiates a covenant with God vowing to
give him a tithe of what he receives from the promised
land.
Leviticus 27:30-32 – The specifications of the tithe is
introduced into the law of Moses.
Numbers 18:20-32 – The tithe is dedicated the Levites for
the work in the tabernacle.
Deuteronomy 12:5-11 – God gives instructions for what
to do with the tithe once Israel crosses the Jordan.
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 – God gives instructions on how
to disperse and exchange the tithe.
Deuteronomy 26:12-15 – God gives instructions on how
Israel should sanctify the tithe before they can ask for a
blessing.
2 Chronicles 31:5-12 – The children of Israel do what’s
right under the reign of Hezekiah, and bring the tithes to
the designated places.
Nehemiah 10:37-38 – Israel obeys God and brings the
tithes to the storehouse.
Nehemiah 12:44 – Officers were appointed to watch over
the tithes in the storehouse.
Nehemiah 13:5-12 – Nehemiah cleanses the storehouse
and kicks Tobiah out of the room that was designated to
store the tithe. He then restores order.
Amos 4:4 – God commands Israel to bring back the tithe
and reiterates the curse that is upon them if they don’t.
Malachi 3:8-10 – God reprimands Israel for not delivering
the tithe, and reiterates the blessings and curse that
would be in result of whatever decision they chose.
Matthew 23:23 – Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for not
obeying the weightier matters of the law along with
tithing.
Luke 11:42 – A parallel passage of Matthew 23:23 as Jesus
rebukes the Pharisees for not obeying the weightier
matters of the law along with tithing.
Luke 18:12 – A Pharisee brags about his obedience to the
law and tithing.
Hebrews 7:5-9 – Abraham’s tithe is used to illustrate a
change concerning the priesthood.

Abraham paid his tithes not from his wealth but from the spoils of war so why would you tell me to pay from my salary?
Jacob promised to give GOD. God did not ask. You can promise to give GOD.... its not compulsory
Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42 Jesus rebukes the pharisees for paying tithes and ignoring the most important part of the law(Faith, mercy and justice). How does this equate to Jesus saying we should pay tithes?
Amos 4:4 Come to bethel and transgress; at gilgal multiply transgression and bring your sacrifices every morning and your TITHES AFTER 3 YEARS.
Remember all those parts also requires sacrifice so do you offer sacrifice?

@joe4christ

What did Jesus mean by "seek ye the kingdom of heaven and it righteousness and everything shall be given to you"?

joe4christ: You do have the Holy spirit residing inside of you i believe, if you are faithful in tithing and want to stop on the seventh year, the holy spirit inside of you will groan in pain and dissagreement, believe me, it does'nt apply to the body of christ (The new testament church) the problem i discorver with the church of the generation is that we seem to be lazy or in disbelieve that God still speaks and directs, cos we've rendered the holy spirit domant thereby not listening when he speaks, the holy spirit is not on earth for no reason, he is meant to direct us into all truth as rightfully stated by the Lord Jesus himself while on earth, the holy spirit is real and guides, personally there is no question i dont ask him and each time i do atimes even before gathering those questions i intend asking he would have provided me with the answer with deep deep insight that i can only relate it with the brightest light that shines in darkest of all dark, he is real, and unvails mysteries of heaven, earth and the kingdom of christ to the heirs of salvation, i dont know why you all are afraid of listening to him, he is the greatest friend and teacher i have ever known, he's always there with me in hardest times and good times, he gives me hope whenever i find myself in life's challenges by reminding me of what the word of God says conscerning that issue and finally give me his personal words of wisdom and knowledge for that situation, he gives me peace in the mid of trouble and problems of life, he is a friend i cannot trade for the entire riches of the world, he is the only one who assure me of my eternal inheritance in christ, he is the only one that assure me of my making heaven cos he promised to keep me till my dieing moment so i will appear blameless before the throne of the father.
Whenever i'm not in good term with him due to my sins, i lose my peace and Joy, i feel insecure without him, i know i wont survive a month without him in my life.
He is indeed a Gift from God to the heirs of salvation.
If you're not experiencing what i just wrote then you're really missing a lot, infact you've missed out of God's intend plan, the holy spirit is too sweet, no wonder he's called the sweet spirit of the living God.
Repent of your sins, accept Jesus as your lord and saviour and then ask the lord to baptise you with his spirit (HOLY SPIRIT) and then get baptised with water and then continaully fellowship with him and make his voice more audible to your hearing by spending much time studying the word of God (The Bible)
I wish the church hear from the holy spirit as i do we would'nt be here arguing over this issue and others like about the Godhead and many more.
God help your church to grow in Jesus name. Amen!!!

The bolded is my problem with you tithers. That part doesn't apply to the new testament church but Malachi 3:10 which is in the same old testament applies to the new testament church abi?
If you had the holy spirit in you, then you would know that you cannot love God if you don't love your fellow man. How do you love your fellow man? By showing him love, helping him in his time of need and not by paying tithes.
Read Hebrews 7, the parable of the good samaritan, Mat 25:35-40

Everybody who has supported tithing has quoted Malachi 3:10 only;
@Fhemmmy and all tithers in the house please answer my questions

1)Who was God talking to in Malachi? (pls read from Malachi 1)
2)If you say people give their tithes to God and not the pastor why is it a problem giving it to God through a poor man?
3)2 Cor 9:7 Says every man should give as he desires in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity(compulsion): for God loves a cheerful give. Why was the bolded included if tithes where compulsory?
4)In all of Jesus teachings as regard giving, it was give to the poor/people who can't repay you e.t.c not once did he mention church. Why?
5)what does Matthew 25:35-40 mean?
6)In the time of Malachi, any where the ark of the covenant was kept became the temple. Today the temple is our hearts so why does paying my tithes have to be in a church? (Hint: understand question 3, reaad question 6 very well)
7)Abraham paid his tithes from the spoils of war not his wealth so why should i pay mine from my salary?
8}Abraham was already rich before he paid his tithes, Jesus said seek yee the Kingdom of heaven and its righteousness and [b]everything [/b]shall be given unto you. Why do i have to pay tithes to be blessed when christ says all i need to be blessed is to seek heaven? (Hint: understand question 1)
9)Can anyone of you explain Hebrews 7?
10)Which of the apostles paid tithes?

Thanks

joe4christ: The scriptures cannot be broken, when God ask for your tithe he does'nt ask cos he is in need or something, he's a God of abundace, if God has blessed you enough then u can tithe to the church and at thesame time give helping hand to those in need, must u have to use your tithe for that?
God is seeking to bless people who would obey his command and not their idealogies,
malachi 3:10 clearly stated that you bring your tithe to the house of the lord (Church) so there would be abundance in his house (Church)
so dont get it twisted please less you be counted as a rubber who rub God of tithe out of the abundance he entrusted you with.
Nough said already!

Please brother what is the church? Is it the buildings or the people?

adieora: Malachi 3:8-11. Pls pay ur tithe to the church.If you have been giving your tithe to the poor,sorry to say u hvnt been paying your tithe.Although you hv been giving to the poor. I dnt know why paying tithe is an issue for Christians.[b]It doesn't matter what your Pst is doing with the money.what is impt is that God knows you gave your tithe.[/b]I dnt know if you expect God to come down and collect the money physically.If the Pst is spending it on himself then that is btw him and God, your blessings will still come.

Can God be found only in the church? If it doesn't matter what the pastor does with the money why should it matter if i give it to the poor afterall Christ said what so ever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me.

Hebrews 7:4
Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.


Abraham paid tithes from the spoils of war, not his money/wealth. You can read Hebrews 7 for more on the priesthood of Melchisedec and that of Jesus.


Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.

If Jesus said the above, why then do i still have to pay tithes so that i can be "blessed"?

Ashmark: How many of you real give money that worth 10% of your income to the poor?

Did the widow in the temple give 10%?
Try explaining what this part of the bible means especially the bolded

2cor 9:7
Every man according to his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity, for God loves a cheerful giver.

babestella: Who do you classify as the poor. You are only decieving yourself. Don't pay tithe you hear. You can keep it in your house and when you pass by beggars you drop 10 naira note for each of them and go home rejoicing that ou have paid your tithe.

Listen, tithe must not be confused with offering and giving.

We must pay tithe in our place of worship which is a church.
Offering is what we giving in the church and God demands hat we bring of offerings.

Then, in giving, we can do that to help the poor, beggars, widows etc.

You can pay a tithe of 10,000 naira in the church, but in giving, you can give relief materials worth over 100,000 naira to the poor.

The tithe is used in developing the church, in church growth, buying of church equipments, chairs, etc.

I just tire for some dumb guys who try to twists the bible just to suit their selfish and rebellious heart

Just obey the word of God, don't try to be mathematical and scientific about it. Some Nigeria too get yeye sense that doesn't add up to nothing at the end of the day.

Go and pay your tithe, give your offerings and give to the needy. It is well.

Can you give one example where someone paid tithes in the bible with cash?
Does church refer to the building or the people?

plappville: We are seeing how God has been spending the tithes right from heaven euhhh. Why the neglect of the all commandment of God and decided to keep the one that has to do with Money/argent? Where is the #4 in the ten commanment? Tithe is the most important. It has become a frequent song to some non ordained Pastors. And you must give them money and believe u are giving it to God?

Don't mind them. Its only when it comes to tithes that they remember the Old testament.
In the time of Malachi, there was only one temple and that was where the ark of the covenant was kept.
In the time of Malachi, people wore clothes of sack and ashes to atone for their sins.
In the time of Malachi, people sacrificed animals to God for so many reasons(forgiveness of sins/Blessings/Sabbath e.t.c)

They clearly never mention these or they say its the old testament and Christ had abolished it but yet still tell us tithing is a law we must follow.

cuteonyii: Pls can you answer the question first of all before we move on?..and do we pay tax to jonathan, to okoracha, obi or elechi? or do we pay tax to nigeria as our country or imo, anambra and enugu as state?

Tax in the uk is 50% for people that earn above a certain amount, while tax in Nigeria is less than 40%. Is tithe in the uk same as Nigeria? If yes then why is tax not the same? Is it the same God people in the UK and Nigeria pay tithe to? If yes why don't people in Nigeria and UK pay tax to the same Government.

cuteonyii: since we have so many bad roads, poor electricity, no good health..etc. and the gvnt is not doing much to better our lifes in the society. should we stop paying govnt tax and instead use the money to help the society as little and much as we can?

.....obedience is better than...what?

Do you pay tithes to the Pastor or to God? If you pay to God and not the Pastor, then where does God reside? Is it only in the church that we can find God? If we can find God outside of the church, can't we pay our tithes there?
Jesus says where two or three are gathered in my name, i am present. If God is therefore present when the two or three people are gathered, why can't i pay my tithe there?
Unless, you pay to the pastor, or God is only found in churches.

Topeedo: Paying your tithe is a commandment and it should b paid to d church not individal...'bring all the tithe into the store house that there may be meat in my house' is wat my bible says not give it to the poor

You probably have not read the new testament like Matthew 25: 37-40

I can pray to God anywhere because he is everywhere.
I can listen to God's word anywhere because he is everywhere.

But i must pay my tithe ONLY in church because that is the only place God is when it comes to money matters.

NO LONG TIN: If you are a Christian, then my reply would be - Stupid Question, but if you are not then i'll tell you that your tithe is for God only, you give it to the church to help it grow(Jesus said give to Caesar what is for Caesar, and to God what is God). Nobody said you shouldn't give to the poor, infact Jesus encourages us to do so, but always keep 10% of your earnings aside for God. some misguided people will say we shouldnt because pastors use it to get rich...... as long as u are being blessed in that church, pay your tithes there(remember its to God and not man).

as for me i'll strive to pay my tithes regularly, no matter what anybody says, you can hate while i enjoy my blessings.

Jesus also said if you give to the poor you give to me so what is the problem with giving your tithe to the poor? Or is God not in the poor?