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Manson1:
Less than two months with Tinubu as president, Nigeria has already gone from bad to worse... We warned them!!!

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Your analysis has nailed it spot on! Aside the fat that the interpretation of the requirement of 25% in FCT is deliberately mispresented by Obidients, in reality it does not make sense that the indigenous populace of FCT most of whom constitute the bulk of the voters there ( even politicians go back to their constituency to vote) are superior to any voters from other parts of the country. If anyone knows of any other country where a similar law is in place can they kindly educate us

Iamgrey5:
In my years alive, I have never seen a more brainwashed set of people than the supporters of labour party.

Firstly, the problem been referred to here is the likely pandemonium the 25% in Abuja debate if ratified by the Court will create for future Elections.

> It will elevate Abuja voters above all other states in Nigeria.

> It will go against the constitution of Nigeria that states all votes cast in Nigeria are equal because it will mean casting your votes in Abuja is more important than casting it in Akure, Onisha or Kano.

Secondly, a runoff doesn't itself guarantee that the winner of the runoff will still get the 25% requirement in Abuja. So will we simply continue to go for runoffs until the winning candidate get 25% in Abuja even if he gets 25% in all the 36 states of the federation.

Furthermore, this will put a weird spotlight on the democraphics of Abuja in future Elections which might create an ugly situation. Politicians might just import people from other states to make up the 25% in Abuja which might create an unwanted national debate in the future. Tribes will begin to fight over who should be allowed to vote in Abuja etc.


In conclusion, Tinubu's lawyer in his final written argument to the judges is only pushing his legal points with real life likely scenarios that might come out of the judgement.

You can easily recognise hypocrisy once it surfaces.... where is the threat in this statement?. Datti Baba Ahmed was more explicit in threatening violence after they lost the election but heaven did not fall, Mr Obi himself in 'Yes Daddy' audio tape was referencing a religious war and people were happy to downplay it, the so called Area Fada was openly calling for a youth insurrection , yet the LP had no issues with that. Elupee should realize they are not even the main opposition party and do not have to pretend as if they are,

The Comparison Brigade are here again with their hypocrisy. When Sambo Dasuki was being incarcerated of the $2 Billion stolen under JOnathan's watch I cannot recollect anyone of you asking for Jonathan's arrest as the man supposedly in charge

Sitwalkstand:
Let's see wether Tinubu will obey court orders

Doesn't make sense that Emefiele is being harrased while Buhari eats Gworo in Katsina.

Oil theft was monumental in the last 8 years. Buhari was minister for petroleum

Meaning what sir? Are you trying to go tribal on this? Please don't, because if the identities of the real thieves and receivers are to be unravelled, you might be surprised, so please do not tribalise every negative issue that happens, after all the expansion joints on the newly commissioned Niger Bridge have been stolen also.. .........thefts and other bad conduct no get tribe o please!

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/07/just-in-robbers-vandalize-road-fittings-on-second-niger-bridge/

TinubuGoQuench:
AKINBINU

Dem don come again o!!!

Some people must have failed English Comprehension multiple times in secondary school. This article is so straightforward and self explanatory but people with mischief who just always want to criticise for fun cannot fully comprehend or chose not to.

The Army is talking about the so called amnesty package of state governors being given to bandits and other terrorists.... which might have been done in good faith but which apparently is not working. This is what is hampering the operations of the Army to effectively combat these elements and not that Army is asking permission of state governors, because irrespective of whatever plan the Army has in place they must still consult with and agree with the respective governors as the chief security officers of each state.

The military cannot just go into a state with guns blazing without proper consultation with the governors, this is democracy and things dont just work the way some people imagine it .......

..... because Ekpa is a Finnish citizen and the Finns along with most of the West are just hypocrites and do not really care what happens to the average citizens of Nigeria in the south east due to the actions of Ekpa

Okortor:
I'm igbo and also obidient but I don't understand this useless Simeon ikpa? Why hasn't Nigerian govt not gone after and extradite him to 9ja? This guy has obviously bitten more than he can chew! Goddam

Bros dont be deceived, their quest for a NEW NIGERIA is an euphemism for BIAFRA, which is their ultimate goal even of Peter Obi had won

georgeakins:
Ibos want biafla

The good thing about freedom of expression is that anyone can say whatever they like and it counts only as THIER OPINION and not necessarily as the absolute fact. All you have written here are your own takes from the tribunal. It might indeed be the case that two people watch the same film and yet draw different conclusions from it,
In my own assessment which is also just my opinion also:

1. Obi has failed to establish exactly how he scored more votes than Atiku and Tinubu and why he should be declared the winner instead or alternatively show overwhelming evidence of irregularities that could warrant asking for a re-run election.
2. Obi and his team did not PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT the case of certificate forgery or drug conviction against Tinubu and so cannot hope to get a technical disqualification based on this ( note the emphasis on BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT).
3.IF at all the technicalities of drug conviction and certificate forgery are upheld by the tribunal and TInubu was disqualified, Atiku will automatically be declared the winner having come second as declared by INEC and so here lies the deficiency of the case brought by Obi.
4. For you information also, the number of witnesses called does not necessarily prove the solidity of a case, after all how many witnesses did Obi's lawyer called to the stand and how many did they promise to call initially

You and I are entitled to our opinions but the ultimate decision lies with the Judges who incidentally do not work on sentiments or assumptions but rely only on well established incontrovertible facts and evidences otherwise they will rule to maintain the status quo which is that Tinubu continues as the President.

Kudos to you however, you have done a good job of giving a false hopes to your fellow Obidients who will be looking at your write up as the opinions of a legal luminary who knows his onions, knowing not that you are just a casual observer like anyone else

Bigkoko:
Anyone following the legal fireworks at the PEPT, within the past few weeks can predict with some high degree of certainty that Mr. Asiwaju Govt would be thrown out, permanently or at least temporarily.

The reasons are quite clear; they could not articulate a grand response to the accusations of electoral heists, qualification questions, perjury, frauds and INEC non adherence to guidelines. The three respondence; Asiwaju, APC & INEC could not respond appropriately. To compound their woes, EU, a major financier of Nigerian elections have released a damning report; in summary, INEC under Prof Yaks cheated for the ruling party!

Even if the judges want to help them, I'm pretty sure their hands are now tied because the whole world can see how shallow, myopic and stupid their legal response was. Witnesses were simply indicting Asiwaju faster than you can drink fanta! The only option they gat was to hurriedly closed their response before more witnesses further compound their woes!

This is not to talk of the embarrassment their legal team led by Oga Wole Olanipku faced when without warning all three witnesses refused to show up in court at the same time! The only witness who agreed to come; a fake pastor who refused to even touch the Bible he plies his trade with, and some other lewd fellow; a so called senator with background in Law. This senator called Bamidele, who I believe had some up bringing in the States, not only destroyed the little doubt left, but also confirmed what is public knowledge. That indeed Asiwaju is a convict whether civil or criminal, that's not the issue. He's a convict. Whole hwa!!!.
So much for Jagaban of Bourdilion! The end is truly near for this mercurial politician who held Lagos in a vice like grip since 1999!

On the other part,
Obidients should Start Preparing for a possible Rerun: Asiwaju knows this! This is the best he can get from the honorable judges!

LP & HE Peter Obi have proved their case beyond reasonable doubt, and APC, INEC and Asiwaju could not even acquire 3 willing, sane witnesses each against the PDP & LP.... So much for the paper tiger of Bourdilion.

All Lovers of democracy worldwide wish there won't be a rerun, but rather a declaration that HE Peter Obi indeed won the election fair & square!

So what are we to do?
Firstly we must retrospect and understand that obidients have achieved what we call "Critical Mass" in physics. This Mass is formidable in enforcement of the Right way of doing things.

What is the right way? A credible INEC, with an unbiased posture, and a guideline everyone must strictly adhere to. Elections must be collate, announced under video at PU and upload real time for anyone to view, 20 minutes after close of elections. Simple.

With this set up, a crooked, highly dishonest Prof like Mahmud INEC chairman won't have the time to manipulate the figures or if another crook is sneaked in, the figures won't add up. Imagine after months elections was conducted they couldn't upload all results because the figures refused to add up!

Next, we must exert pressure on INEC. The campaign should be, Prof Yaks should go! Mr. Okoye should go! All top management that allowed this broad day light heist should go. They should be made to face prosecution, at least for derelict of duty! All of them. That way a msg would be passed to the new INEC chairman, eat corn, go to jail.

A credible team from ethnic minority should be assembled and the election entrusted to them. Don't forget the ethnic minorities are the most oppressed in Nigeria. Think of what is going on in North Central & far North. Time to allow these folks determine the leaders of Nigeria. Igbo, Fulani, Yoruba don try.

No Yoruba, no Hausa-fulani, no Igbo as INEC chairman in the coming fresh elections. An election guideline should be issued. A date announced and let the party begin. Anyone who tries to induce voters with money, or cart away ballot box should be lynched on the spot & feed to hungry lions at the zoo. Even if he's a soldier or policeman. If suffer no dey tired am, make he continue am for lion belle, heaven or hell or anywhere he see himself.

Any result that is not uploaded real time after close of voting should be collected from the PU officer, announced and the PU officer made to announce his name, rank and the results before giving it back to him to take to the collation center.

If you dey do charm, make sure you load your with it, as guns are not allowed.
There's a reason why the West allows individuals to own guns..... Since guns are allowed, charms, amulet, are a veritable option!
Anyone who disrupt the election whether uniform man or not, after the election, make sure to do a follow-up on the fool!

Nigeria must be reset by 🔥, by force.

May you walk and never stumble....many times at different threads I have asked the question but no one has actually given me a response and the simple question is this

" Tinubu has stolen the mandate from Peter Obi is your assertion..... please tell me exactly how you came to this conclusion. Obviously for you to conclude that Obi really won the election you must have proofs and evidences. So if indeed Obi won and Atiku came second can anyone volunteer to tell me the actual vote received by all candidates, forget INEC now, tell us the real figures that made you conclude that Obi is the actual winner, because even at the tribunal we did not get anything in this regard.

This conspiracy theory of stolen mandate might have originated from that lady on Twitter, NEFERTITI who claimed that Obi actually won 19 states, however before she could be queried further to give the actual breakdown of how Obi won 19 states, she deleted the tweet, but it appears some people have latched on to that and took it as the gospel truth.

In the same vein I joined the conversation between two Ibo guys few weeks after the election and they both were insistent that Obi won, so I asked how did you know that ? And the answer is "we know, but you don't know anything" , I told them sincerely I don't know anything ,please tell me and the answer was " wait, everything go come out for the tribunal, don't be in a haste bros"

Tribunal has come now and up till now all we heard was drug baron, no certificate, 25% of FCT ( that even did not come from Obi's legal team anyways). Make dem tell us EXACTYLY how obi was supposed to have won, dem no fit.

This is the gauntlet thrown down here again now, please o ye who knew everything, tell us the ignorant ones, by how much votes did Obi actually win the election. Which states did he win that were not declared for him? Was this established at the tribunal (in case we missed it).
If you are unable to provide these answers could you please mop up your tears and STOP SHOUTING STOLEN MANDATE. You are ridiculing yourselves just like the Trump's muppets

Omookunnimi:
Honestly I don't know what these people want. In election there is always a winner and looser. It seem you people don't consider that it's not only Igbo that voted in the last election. Why it's it that it's only you people calling for war? You did the same against Abiola and succeeded, you tried it to Tinubu and you failed. Why can't you accept defeat and move on or better still prepare for 2027.

The last time I checked Nigeria is not made up of only Igbo. It is a complex entity. Casting your votes 100% for Obi can't make him win. You also forget that your region is least populated in Nigeria. Democracy is a game of number and is a demrit to you people.

On a serious note, how you people analyzed the outcome of last election is still surprising me. Historicaly, the party that won presidential election in Nigeria always has majority in the national assembly. The last election was not different. The party that won presidential election always won majority of governorship election. This year election was not different. The states assembly also goes the same ways. Even in Anambra state where Obi came from, his party could not secure majority seats in the state assembly. Please you should come and explain what miracle will make Obi win the election without won NC, NW and NE. Even he couldn't win all the SS states and you people claimed his mande was stolen. By who for g9odness shake?

....but there are those who believe in Kanu's ideology, why have they not done something to spring him from jail, because you make it look as if your Area fada is untouchable now.......

You see in reality the man is playing out a script with all his recent explosive statements and the security agencies have seen right through him that is why he has not been arrested, yet. The game plan is to actually provoke his arrest and therefore use that as springboard for his yeye revolution he has been calling for........

JealousCobra:
The numbers of deranged people in this country is alarming. Buhari said more than this in 2011 and 2014 precisely until today not even a scratch on him was found.


May una try arrest area fada first, we are kind to you on MNK cos some like us didn't believe in his ideology 😎
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The only outcome that is acceptable to them is the one that produces their candidate as the winner. The election that gave Peter Obi his second term as the Governor of Anambra was called "flawed" by international press, but did that stop Obi from accepting that outcome and his second term? No it did not. There are some people here giving themselves some false hope about the outcome the tribunal, but I can tell you Charly Daddy apparently knows something we dont know from this statement of his, Perhaps PO is mooting the idea of accepting the likely outcome of the tribunal which may not favour him... and that is why area father is saying.... even if Obi accepts, they won't?

ShaqFu:
Even in the US, the election process isn't excellent, sacred and isn't uphold (according to you) so what on earth are you saying? Try get sense abeg

... as soon as Obi is arrested for trying to incite a religious war in Nigeria.......

UHLmoving:
When will Tinubu be arrested?

If MAdam Oby insists she does not trust JAMB perhaps we should re look the original highest score of 360 also…. Is she casting doubt on that too or indeed any scores from JAMB for that matter

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ImperialYoruba:
Obiangeli is admitting she lacks trust in JAMB, which ahead of Anambra had done its own investigation and reported it to the public.

Her mistrust of Jamb is highlighted in her statement PRAISING THE INDEPENDENT ACT from Anambra.

If an iboman is head of Jamb she would trust him. Obiageli is an undercover Ipob supporter.

Sorry Agblagba Priest not Okija......so you agree you are a devil worshipper... good for your soul. So you see in the same vein you don't care what anyone calls you I think it does not matter to Tinubu also whatever names you do call him.

So all you do in your Agbalagba shrine is to ask for misfortune for those who do not agree with you, well we shall see where that takes you, unfortunately I don't do insults and curses so I can only pray for your soul naa ni, ki Oluwa ba wa fi e mona.......over and out

AfonjaPriest:
We don't do Okija shrine; we do ours in Agbalagba the goddess shrine. Anyway, whether you called me a cultist or a bloodsucking demon, it won't matter. When misfortune comes knocking on your door, blame the Devil; he's waiting to have all of you for his keeps. Meanwhile, Congratulations! Agbalagba, the goddess, has answered your prayers. You shall meet with the Devil, shortly.

I am sure even at you Okija shrine you do still allow the accused the benefit of a trial or am i wrong? All you keep mouthing everywhere you post is about the drug lord and mandate thief.... how did you arrive at those descriptions, have your allegations been validated by any competent court or authority?. Is it okay for me to call you a blood drinking cultist because I suspect you might be one? Is that the way it works with allegations? I am just asking you ni o, I know you will reply with insult but try to understand my premise.

In the same vein there have been allegations about Peter Obi that he belongs to a cult where they must always wear black, would you say that is true, because we ordinary outsiders think he is a good Catholic Christian..... are you happy for that allegation to keep being in circulation.

There was another one out there that Peter Obi's father was actually a drug lord who was murdered by his rivals, do you believe this is true?

Caveat: not that I believe any of these, but to show you that any one can allege anything without any concrete proof or evidence, but it does not make it correct

AfonjaPriest:
I can understand the pressure the girl must have been put through. People could have told her to agree to something she could have done without knowing the repercussions. Well, good one from her; finally she has come out clean.
I hope the drug Lord criminal and mandate thief with his yahoo-yahoo INEC chairman would learn from the great deed of sacrificing one's dignity for the betterment of all.
Mmesoma Ejikeme, you have shown valour in adversity. From the shrine of Agbalagba the goddess, I wish the best in all your future endeavours and adventures.

Hmmm the girl is innocent, so who is guilty? who is it that the committee are trying to protect with their ' cover up'. Like I said at another thread unless they have all gone to take an oath under Okija shrine, please explain to me why she would be happy to take the fall for others

Bestwords:
this girl is innocent


I could remember when I was forced to say what I did not do. I was a very young boy then, and wanted to participate in holy Communion in Catholic , I was given a question and answer book,. I didn't know who mark my book good so I summited it to father,. Immediately father look at my book and ask me who mark this I said I don't know that I'm not the one. He got angry and ban me from communion class, I cry and cry and pleaded to father that I'm not the one who mark it,but father insist, my mother even came to beg father to allow me participate in the class father refused. He said I must say the truth,. As a little boy I have no choice than to accept what I didn't know.. That's how father allow me to participate in communion class. And he also gave me punishment to cut ✂🔪the fields and the grass. God will punish all una because you are at the high level you are forcing this innocent girl to admit what she didn't know.

Well indeed it is your opinion but when you mentioned a ‘syndicate’ are you implying the so-called syndicate approached Joy to allow her result to be altered and the syndicate then prepared the fake result for her,printed it for her and gave it to her, told her to parade herself as the highest scorer and when kassala burst., they also told her to blame JAMB for it? Wake up and face reality, even if others were involved, she was a willing participant and unless they have taken oaths under Okija shrine, why would she allow herself to be thrown under the bus?

mymadam:
My opinion? This young lady (old enough to be a criminal) is definitely guilty as proven, BUT she's just being used as a 'fall guy (gal)'. A very active syndicate is almost certainly involved. The outcome appears to be a desperate, well-coordinated cover-up by well-connected member(s) of the syndicate. Posterity shall be the judge, soon, very soon

You keep talking about his brain, his brain here, can you actually tell us exactly why she needed assistance to use the app which is on HER phone to create the fake result and why would she need assistance to print a document at a cybercafe.......it would appear you are the one who did not follow her recent statement clearly, she did everything on her PHONE .... see excerpts below

"Providing clarification on whether she printed the results at home, the candidate explained, “You know phones now, if you want to check, you have the reg number. That’s the main thing you use in downloading your [results]. It’s not the hard copy that I’m talking of.”

Her father, Romanus, who also spoke on the programme, denied going to a business cafe with his daughter to print out the results.

He said, “I didn’t go with her. I didn’t go there with her,” he said."

So I dont really get why you are getting worked up on your unproven assumptions that someone assisted her and for your information there are so many crimes without an accomplice I don't know where you got your assertions from, and in any case can you see that the person you insinuated as being retarded is really not

Sammy5413:
While your brain told you she downloaded an app, your brain was likewise blind to the fact that she was assisted by someone probably at a cyber Cafe, at school or any other environ. Never let your mouth and hands be faster than your brain unless you're retarded. There's no crime without an accomplice

I hail you ma ( sorry i didnt check your moniker before replying). I swear to God sincerely, all these hatred of each other is really unnecessary. Imagine most people living abroad would be quick to shout out at racism whenever we are the victims, but back within our own race we openly embrace tribalism. It really is a shame!

Injera:
I agree with you. It is not as black and white as I said. You only need to read my previous post to see that. But recently I realized that as Christians we are meant to be a shining light in this dark world. Positivity rather than negativity. Thanks

Uncle Iyke, this typicalresponse of " what of Tinubu" to explain anything negative is not a sensible and credible one. Every case on its own merit..... good enough all of the negatives you mentioned about Tinubu have been raised at the tribunal and if he is pronounced guilty so be it......let us stop distracting from the main issue on ground by comparing what are unproven allegations to a well established and proven crime

iyke2frankeze:
Like I said from inception, that result was Forged but I insist that the same punishment mete on Tinubu for identity theft, certificate forgery, age falsification, drug involvement and daylight robbery on presidential election day should be meted on her too.

Listen to the typical insulting replies from the headless mob. The woman must have felt very aggrieved for her to talk like this and the only response was to abuse her in return. Did Peter Obi not visit the woman who was injured in Lagos? Did he not find the time to congratulate Hilda Bassey on her GWR feat, If only the headless mob took time to read her statement, she was not looking for money but at least a bit of solidarity, unless they are pretending that Peter Obi was unaware of her case which I would find difficult to believe.

What would it take for these people to realize that Obi is a man like them and he is open to mistakes and oversight and just stop defending him blindly. I can only pray that some of them will not find them in a position where it would dawn on them they might have taken this Obidient thingy too far.

And please dont talk about Tinubu because I have mentioned it before it is not everyone that defend their politicians blindly because they are not perfect just like we are not also.

Why would you credit Peter Obi for this achievement, na him send her go school abi she schooled for Anambra?

bentenny:
As usual,no one will credit Peter Obi for this feat but once a bullet is fired in the entire SE,the benighted fellas will start calling out his name!

Irrespective of the noise of the Tribal Brigade, I believe any sensible person would drop tribal affiliations and celebrate a true talent whenever we see one, in the same way we should forget tribal affiliations and condemn a fraud irrespective of whom he/she is or where they are from.

I sincerely wish her well and hope she does not rest on her oars because many a brilliant JAMB scores did not translate to first class. University is a different ball game altogether

I think it is because you might not know who has scored the highest at the point when results were just being generated

ManWater:
I still can't fathom why any sensible girl will fake her JAMB result to have the HIGHEST SCORE. Highest score that will easily attract nationwide publicity & also attract the attention of JAMB to come & easily expose it as fake.
&she still went ahead to protest to Anambra Education Commissioner that Jamb didn't recognise her fake highest score.

It's practically impossible to do all these, without getting caught.
It's like stealing an expensive rough diamond, & later come out to brag that you own the most expensive diamond necklace in the country.

If she was involved in the fake, then she must be very foolish/insensible. &not owning up yet implies a hardened criminal.
Else she may just be an innocent victim of a fraudulent JAMB result scheme or JAMB system glitch.

Complete gibberish he is talking. CCTV footage of what?

abbasajao:
You are saying trash

A 19 year old is a minor? Ha a ma se nnkan o

GerogeI:
Everything coming out of JAMB, a public institution shows it is being manned by a set of unqualified people who are not just ignorant of the laws of the land, but have a very low understanding of what public service is.

Seems to be trying to make light joke of a serious infraction of media trial of a minor.

So the question is if they will award N1 million naira to any person making such a proof, Whose money are they awarding for their media jest? Is it tax payers funds allocated through budgetary provisions that they will award for this media show that is well outside of JAMBs mandate to serve, or Is it the examinees funds that they plan to fritt away in such manner? Was this provided for in the 2023 approved budget for JAMB? Did JAMB defend such waste of national funds in their Budget presentation to the National Assembly or do we have an emperor at the helm of JAMB who just does as he pleases? Who does JAMB answer to that Justified the use of THE PEOPLE'S funds in such a careless manner.

Is Mr. Benjamin talking about his personal Salary and that of the Directors? What are their salaries, does it afford them the capacity to make this sort of fund offer? Are there adequate seperation between the personal funds of those manning JAMB and funds given to them to run this public educational service?

A public institution cannot be making such a N1 million offer as its response to criticism without adequate budgetary provisions otherwise it is being run by unseasoned quacks!

Yeah... so meticulous like how he said Nassarawa is great country?

KingExalted:
You don't even know PO. The man is too meticulous for this kind of mistake

Tinubu is "unconditional" president? Then why are you worrying yourself

INVINCIBLECSP1:
See this agbodo muncher talking. Thiéfnubu is unconditional president and can't continue to occupy that seat. Let him rule you and your family. Is that's too much to ask. We the same Nigerians say No To A Cocaine Addict.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

I like you already, you are a comedian

PaellaPaella:
Ogbeni stop lying you are jobless