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Enjoyment1:
Then, why is he afraid of being probed?

He is afraid?  You obviously must crawled in his bed at night when he shared that with you.


NL is full of loonies I swear, lol

udezue:
Tilapia,Bissh that was mad funny lol. Bad belle? For what? What do i have to gain or lose from this? Nothing so STFU. I will say the samething if it was another governor. Fashola is a successful and i have evn suggested that Jonathan pick him as VP. What have u accomplished urself? If u understand elementary English u would know by reading my post that i never attacked Gov Fashola. All he needs to do is prove his accusers wrong by showing transparency if not he looks guilty. What us ganja? Correct bushmeat.

And how do you suggest he shows that transparency?

Kobojunkie:
Let's work with this for a bit  . . . .

Do you go to the police ONLY when you have evidence? Or do you go to the police with your problem in hopes that the police will look into the situation and then find out evidence and proof to either substantiate your claims or debunk them?

Same thing with the courts, do you go to the court ONLY when you have 100% proof that the other party is GUILTY from the start or do you go the courts so the courts can, from examining the situation, and possible, data you yourself are not privy to, to determine if the other party is guilty or not?

Let's be real for a moment here. Are we really ready for such to be the case here?  . . .  That is not how the law works, and certainly not how it works in the case of Lagos state. The Governor's own website actually invites people to ask questions freely. According to the website, you don't even have to do much to open a case. Apparently, you can open one with a simple email.

http://www.tundefashola.com/contact/index4.html

Again, I still have to ask you, why do you think the state has gone as far as to set up a committe to PROBE the issue if due process has not been followed in this case? Where exactly does it say that before you can get the ear of government and ask questions of government, you have to provide evidence substantiating the claims made? Especially in a situation where the members of the public still have no direct access to information on their government and it's dealings? How does one access this evidence, if the evidence if any potential evidence that may exist is beyond the reach of the public still?

I will guess you are in the US. Does the government set up a panel to investigate an issue ONLY IF THEIR IS EVIDENCE ALREADY of misconduct? Or do we get that after the PROBE is completed?

You don't have to give the police any evidence, but they'll simply tell you they can not do anything because they can not arrest or do anything to people without proof/evidence. Police don't go around investigating people and locking people up based on hearsay, they get sued for false investigation and arrest. Even a day old baby is equipped with this knowledge.

You don't have to give the courts any evidence before you sue people, but they'll certainly throw your case out the window for lack of evidence and also make you pay the other party's court fees and the other party is free to institute a libel charge against you. Even a day old baby is equipped with this knowledge




You don't have to talk to us about what is going on at the state level to cover up your ignorant talk.

What the panel is doing and what you have been yelling are 2 different things. Due process is what is going on at the state level, but not the ignorant talk you have been shouting all over the place that the governor need to provide documents to prove his innocence. In line with due process, it is up to the panel to invite the governor to show up and provide documents, not invite himself and force documents on the panel.

Kobojunkie:
I have a problem with the portion in bold above.What is the DUE PROCESS you speak of here? I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say DUE PROCESS was not followed in this case.

A petition was signed and the state has already set up an assembly to probe/look into the case outlined in the petition, but you are somehow convinced DUE PROCESS was not followed? How?  Do you mind showing me with  say a reference to a site outlining  how it ought to have happened instead? 

But does due process it include you running around saying the governor should jump the gun, invite himself and start waving papers all over the place?

Due process is letting the panel do their job, not you yelling that the governor should do what he's yet to be asked to do by the panel, the same panel Lagosians charged to do this particular job on their behalf.

Kobojunkie:
You are such an imbecil-e, you know that? Asking for a fair PROBE translates to badbelle in your mind?

And here I thought you actually had a real brain there at one time  . . .   

I don't think they MEAN him in a bad way  . . .  well, maybe they do, but at the end of the day, transparency is really want is needed from all parties. Government ought not be a respecter of no man. This group, no matter who they turn out to be need to be treated fairly.

The garbage you have been spewing has nothing to do with asking for a fair probe. It was nothing but an ignorant rendition democracy, due process, fairness and sound jurisprudence.

It is up to what ever panel, courts, the EFCC to invite the governor in the course of any probe, findings, court proceedings to show and defend himself with whatever facts at his disposal to defend himself against all allegations. People don't invite themselves, it's the other way around.

Curb your ignorance, layman talk and temper it with sound reasoning and act like you really know the meaning of democracy and due process.

The governor has not been asked or invited to say or provide anything and further more, the panel is backed by state law to invite anybody, subpoena any documents within the state governmental apparatus and the governor himself, but they are yet to do that.

If you really give a hoot about anything, you should be asking why haven't they asked the governor to show up or provide anything.

This is due process under democracy. You set up a panel, gather evidence and invite all parties involved to testify and provide evidence and defense.

We want our leaders to follow and obey due process, not the other way around. It is not up to the governor to probe himself, it is the job of the panel, the courts or the EFCC.

Till the governor gets invited and turns down the invitation, yours is nothing but silly and ignorant talk and you are the real slowpoke.


Like I said before, I'm here to highlight your stupidity and ignorance.

And for democracy to work, we need people like you to curb your bad bele desires and promote due process like they do in civilized societies.


Feel free to share this post with your co-ignorant and disgruntled udezue 

flobajo:
@knowal

No point arguing with you, I am almost sure you do not have any formof  higher education, you are not coherent, your online manners leave a lot to be desired and your arguments never brings out any facts or detailed info. I asked you a straight question which you have refused to reply, where did you get your figures about 17.5 million destitute and peasants, youoffer no response,

it seems sometimes you just like hearing the sound of your own voice, personally i just think you are a f*****g idiot!!!!
best not argue with a fool, for a bystander would not know the difference,

You really have to Ignore that clown and his retarded posts. Obviously, he's not well.

wudd:
,  airport! seriously?, how does that provide shelter or put food on the table for the common man. we say mmia is falling apart. is it not Nigerians that are put in charge to manage it. when the new one is done, is it not the same people that would manage it. so what are we talking?,  who is federal govt, are they not Nigerians like us. why blame the name when the pple re there. from my own perspective, there are more important things than an airport please. schools are falling apart, hospitals re there, the roads re there, there is no security, plenty of slums, people re freaking dying cos there's no money to take care of themselves,no free healthcare. i bet u when that airport is done, they will tax the poo out of you to use it. you can build buildings and all, if you don't build the people occupying it, it will collapse, thats my perspective.

So what do you suggest? You mean instead of spending the money on the airport, the state should distribute it out to poor people or just go buy them food and build houses for them including the thousands of people trooping down to Lagos  daily from every corner of Nigeria?

Now, what's next after spending the N43 Billion buying food and building houses for the so called poor folks? Go look for another N43 Billion to keep buying food and building houses for the poor? And go look for some more and keep doing it over and over again and again?

And where do you suggest the state government get the money from?
From the sky?

I really don't thin Lagos state is a welfare state where the masses is totally dependent of the state government to for food, water and shelter. We might as well sit back, forget about work and let the state take care of our needs and damn where ever the heck they get the money from.

Now, back to reality. The only way to help and empower the working citizenry is to create an avenue and dignified situation for them to secure employment and collect paychecks to feed and house their families.  

Building schools, roads,hospitals and and other social programs and infrastructures demands money/heavy investments. The primary source of money needed to pursue programs comes from employment payroll and general commerce and if there is no payroll and commerce, where do you suggest the government get the money needed to build schools, hospitals, roads and take care of other social needs of the citizenry.

The government is essentially taking care of the problems you highlighted by pursuing commerce, expanding the state's tax base and ultimately generate money to fund projects and create employment for the populace and generate payroll tax from the same commercial activities it helped started and populace to fund projects lie school buildings, roads and hospital.

Governments don't hand out food and shelter free pf charge to people, they create necessary environment for commerce to thrive, people to get jobs, buy good and services and pay taxes.

The only way and best option the state has to empower people is exactly what the state is doing. Do whatever it takes to create jobs, develop infrastructure and grow commerce. Compared to what the state of Lagos stand to gain from the LFTZ, N43 Billion is peanuts.

The state is getting hundreds of thousand of employed and skilled Lagosians with good paying jobs, grounded and irremovable infrastructure, technology transfer, a first class trade zone pumping money into the state's economy 24/7, income generating airport and permanent recognition as the main air corridor and transit point in West Africa and Africa in general. How much is N43 Billion when you stand to recoup it back in no time. It's called investment, not throwaway.


About your Federal government reference, the fact is, MMA a federal government airport and it can not serve the state's needs per LFTZ, Eko Atlantic and impending business activities in the area all the way to Epe lite industrial and the state can not touch it, fix or upgrade it to serve it's needs and the federal government don't share MMA profit with the lagos state government.

Also, Lagos is a major air travel heaven and the state should be making money off air travel within Lagos state.  

You ca not tell that the state is not spending money on health care because I know for a fact that the state commissions at least 3 health care centers every six months, you can not tell me the state is not spending money on roads because I know for a fact that the state is building tons of roads as we speak, you can not tell me the state is not building bridges because I know for a fact the state has at least 2 major bridges under constructions, they have a major 10 lane freeway with light rail and BRT under construction which happens to be the first in Nigeria and Africa in general, you can not tell me the state is not spending money on food Agriculture and  programs because I know for a fact that the state is spending tons of money on rice farming in Epe and Badagry, fisheries in Epe and Ikorodu, produce in Ipakodo and Ijede.


It's ok to question the activities of our elected officials and I'm sure the current administration is not perfect, but seeing what they've accomplished and what they have on the table gives me hope for a better Lagos. They are not sitting around doing nothing. They are basically starting from scratch and doing a great job.


A lot of folks here talk and cry negatively mostly because of Ignorance and petty tribal jealousy which really shouldn't be the case.

Unfortunately, Nigerians are funny animals, they yell and cry when the government is not doing anything and they do the same thing when the government is out there doing something.

netotse:
are we talking development or parables here?


@babapupa
u need to stop trading insults with these people. . .you risk making yourself look as pitiful as they do, at least when kobojun kie and the others were posting we were spared stories about how it is a taboo to point at your house with your left hand or the insults and they displayed(to some extent) that they were able to reason but

Well said.

Too bad these clowns don't care about nothing, theirs is to display hate and prejudice at anything Lagos. They have no credibility and I don't take them seriously.

banku:
Babapupa,

That was a test, appealing to your sense of decency and you failed woefully.

If you are from Lagos, that appeal could have moderated your foul mouth on the key board. But you have no where to relate to in Lagos and nothing to loose. Very soon you will be going home to contest for election like the rest of you from Iragbiji.

Why else would anyone point a left finger to his house?

Unfortunately, people like you and your crew have no morale authority to talk about decency. Feel free to stick your pointless decency talk where the sun don't shine.

I don't go around talking crap about your state, bad mouth your people and whatever they do over there. This is what you guys do all the time and have been getting away with it.


Lastly, I didn't insult insult nobody, I basically described and qualify their actions. Some of you need to work on your comprehension skills.

banku:
Babapupa,

If you do not stop insulting people, I will personally report you to the head of the family in your ccoumpond. Lagosians are small enough in numbers to know one another. You are good when you keep to issues but mess it up with insult.

^^^^What else is new


Like I said, go back to your village, they need your help and warped and silly ideas, quit wasting your time, life and existence on Lagos.

You're like a freeking annoying pest and everything that emanates from your keyboard keeps asserting your stupidity, backwardness and ignorance.



Olodo buruku, 18 million people are small in numbers right?


Why do you guys speak as if you never attend school before sef?

^^^^What else is new


Like I said, go back to your village, they need your help and warped and silly ideas, quit wasting your time, life and existence on Lagos.

You're like a freeking annoying pest and everything that emanates from your keyboard keeps asserting your stupidity, backwardness and ignorance.

doyin13:
@Babapupa.

You make it sound like inefficiency and poor service is the preserve of the FG alone.

If the BRT is anything to go by, then any airport project might well end up being
beset with the same issues affecting MMA.

That's exactly what I'm saying, the the FG is a useless and incompetent entity. You are free to prove otherwise if you must. Who do you hold responsible for the sorry mess called Nigeria?

The BRT remains a resounding success and I'm 100% sure you have zero information about the management and maintenance aspects of the proposed airport.

webgenius:
This discourse has been interesting to follow despite the few attempts to derail it. I would suggest the govt slows down on implementing the airport project, even if the masterplan is there. Let them go ahead and implement the rail option, using MMA as a cargo hub and with a rail track connecting MMA to the LFTZ. This same track can also serve commuters if well managed and LASG can liase with the Feds to take care of many worries raised about MMA.
When the LFTZ becomes operational and there is an established need to build the airport, let the work begin and be done expeditiously.
It would amount to a monumental tragedy if the airport project goes ahead and we find out later that it was never necessary, cannot be completed ,or is grossly underutilised as those in South Korea which are economic disasters on their own right.
I also think that LASG is stretching itself too thin on many fronts. Let's complete the light rail, the Badagry expressway, the many jetties being built, the expansion of the BRT Scheme etc and record resounding successes in all these, then we can proceed on other projects which would benefit the people. BRF has a short time left and since he has never repeated a class, I will like to see him complete the above-mentioned projects before he undertakes new ones. I am still waiting for the commissioning of the Okota-Itire link bridge so I can begin to use it( I think this was supposed to be ready in August 2009).

Please BRF, complete these projects and have your name written in gold forever in the hearts of ALL Lagosians. Let the private investors join you in your schemes, or let them wait until their desired projects are desirable or there is incontrovertible need for them.

1. There is already an established need and it's called the LFTZ, Eko Atlantic and Lagosians.

2. Lagos is the busiest air corridor in west Africa and the state should be making money off air travel within the state

3. Saying that the state should work things out with the feds sounds very laughable, the fools can't even properly lit the airport, the freeking ACs are out, the terminals have dangling electrical wires all over the place, the terminals are crappy and the runways are glorified air strips. Sorry, they can keep that sorry mess. I'd love to see the proposed airport run them out of business.

4. Show me a successful FTZ without it's own capable and dedicated airport close by.

5. The proposed airport has nothing to do with all the other projects going on within the state, it's a unique project designed to serve a primary need and it's very essential to serve that need.

6. There is no cargo facilities at MMA to serve an entity like the LFTZ and I hope you're not suggesting that the state spend money to upgrade a federal facility. Or are you just saying that, instead of spending that money to build your own, go and spend it to fix other people's airport. You are not making any sense.

7. You don't want the state to spend money on a new airport, but you want them to spend it on what they already have under construction (metro rail) to take care of the same need. It doesn't make sense.

8. How do you stretch yourself thing when you have budgeted projects with enough manpower to handle them and thousands of Lagosians collecting paychecks off the projects and paying taxes?

9. Show me a white elephant project and or an abandoned project in Lagos state.

jumobi1:
Use 73 Billion to repair and build as many necessary roads in Logos. That would stimulate the economy, (collect tolls as necessary too). People are tired of spending hours on the road. This airport is too extravagant. Start with the more basic and necessary project. If the govs rationale is to reduce airport traffic, can't some of that money be used for expansion?

The price tag for the Airport is N43.3 while the almost completed Lekki-Ikoyi bridge will gulp N30 billion. We need to have a clear understanding of what's going on.

I see what you're saying, roads are very important, but they are not the only pressing needs state officials and Lagosians are facing. Lifting millions of Lagosians out of poverty and improving their standard of living is equally important. Though, tons of roads, bridges, highways and freeways are under construction as we speak, the most important thing right now is job creation vial massive  projects like the LFTZ, eko atlantic, the ten lane Badagry freeway with BRT and light rail access, the Lagos metro rail system, water transportation/jetty construction and many more.

The LFTZ plus the downstream and auxiliary sector of the LFTZ alone are set to be the largest employer and tax generator in Lagos state, the money generated from the LFTZ alone should be more than enough to build not only roads, but more schools, hospitals and clinics.

Thousands of people are gonna be collecting paychecks to house and feed their families, we get technology transfer, we also get technical and managerial skilled Lagosians from the industrial, manufacturing, energy and other activities within the LFTZ and if I might add, the new airport is very important per the future and success of the LFT itself.

Abi how do you rationalize and justify hundreds of trucks moving goods/cargo from Lekki trough the streets of Lagos all the way to ill equipped and badly maintained MMA in Ikeja? Does it make sense to you? What are we gonna do when Eko Atlantic in the same vicinity arrives? Are we gonna get caught with our pants down and start saying we should have planed ahead. And should a fast developing state like Lagos be tied to a useless
and unserviceable crap they don't have any say over and can't even touch in terms of fixes and upgrades?

The LFT is getting it's own sea port and airport. Only a foolish governor rests the future and success of his state on incompetent and irresponsible Nigerian government. MMA belongs to the feds, not the Lagos state government and it's not by force to hang on to any useless and below standard federal property, the state is progressing, not regressing.

MMA as it stands right now is an eyesore with limited capabilities and if the state can not touch any federal property in terms of repairs or upgrade, they have every right to build their to better the lives of the citizens of the state. And why should the state spend money fixing any federal edifice? Are they sharing proceeds from MMA with the state government?

Right now, the state should be making money off air travel, but it's impossible because the state doesn't have it's own air facilities.

Let's not get narrow minded and shortsighted, N43.3 is not gonna prevent the state from building roads, like I said, many roads are under construction.

Denying millions of people a better life and meaningful paycheck because you're trying to save a few bucks is not only foolish, it's cruel and irresponsible.

banku:
Babapupa,

Pity, no substance. Read that reply again and THINK. Better still you can ask someone else that thinks, if you are not blinded by greed.

I'm not interested. Abi na by force?

sizzlers:
I DONT GET U BRO.

It was typed in English, not French.


Precisely telling me what you didn't get would have sufficed.

Kobojunkie:
Seriously, where are the reasonable, sensible folks of nairaland?

Btw,

What's reasonable about you peddling allegations without facts and credible evidence to back them up? Is that what reasonable people do?

What's reasonable about you shouting democracy, but circumventing due process and the laws of democracy? Is this what they practice in democratic societies?

You are not only unreasonable, you are a paranoid nuisance. You pollute threads with your ignorant, blind and silly arguments.

^^^^^

Though, I'm not calling you a foolish man, but only a foolish man concludes that one man is an island. Obviously, Fashola is not running the show all by himself, we have tons of aids, commissioners, agency leaders and lawmakers and even messengers. They are all dynamic leaders and the wonderful results of their great efforts is out there for all to see, they are  receiving awards and recognition locally and internationally for the outstanding work they are doing.

As for you and the rest of your irrelevant argument, seems you have other issues beyond the topic at hand, I really can not help you with that, I don't even have the time to entertain silly and warped assertions.

EMOlusuyi:
I will love to see friends posting facts and figures. So that this medium can be a site to pick info that relates to our polity. the airport and bridge initiative is a good one. Let the intra city transportation be included in the plan. We are happy with the Okokomaiko - Marina light rail project.

The government has paid N8.05bn to the Chinese company, to design and build the 27 kilometre line expected to run from Okokomaiko to Marina.

What is wrong if we could push for another one running from Badagry to Marina?

Great question and wonderful take per the discussion.

The fact that the metro rail system is inbuilt and part of the 10 lane freeway system warms our heart.

The fact is, some folks are not interested and it's not their intention to engage in any kind of healthy debate. Many are ill equipped with facts and knowledge about the state, it's leaders and general aspirations.

Lagos of today is blessed with dynamic and visionaries leaders, they are taking bold steps and making ground breaking and forward looking  decisions thats very unNigerian.

It's been asserted that Nigeria is overtaking China and India  as the largest construction site in the world for the next 20 yrs, basically fastest of all markets. This is because most  of the international construction money flowing around points to Nigeria and we know most of these projects are linked directly to construction activities in Lagos state starting with the new city at Eko Atlantic,10 lane Badagry freeway with rail system, roads and bridges, rail system, massive waterway transportation and Jetty infrastructure.

Ocean front in VI is about to start looking like Brazilian beach front with breath taking skyline. The whole stretch is basically a construction site as we speak, commerce and industries like Dangote, Energy businesses and textile mills are moving to new industrial layouts in Ikorodu, Epe and Badagry.

Just last month, the state show case Badagry to the world as a major tourist destination with the 3 Black Heritage festival. Funds for the $1.5 billion Energy city in Badagry with tons of commercial, leisure, aquatic entertainment is already on the table.

Obviously, these massive projects are not gonna build themselves, lagosians are gonna be part of the whole endeavor with millions of Lagosians from construction engineers to food and catering services, consultants, advertisers and graphic designers and many many down streem folks collecting steady pay checks and millions of Lagosians are gonna end up staffing most of these establishments.

The only major job vacancies with the Lagos state government are Town planners and engineers, it basically tells you what the state and it's leaders are thinking, it also highlights their primary focus.

Most of the negative and shallow loud mouths don't know anything about the state or it's activities, they are clueless about the empowering factors of job creation. How many of them visits the Governors web site to at least follow his and the states activities? I don't think they know where he was yesterday or what project he commissioned or what ideas he floated and the reasons behind his many thoughts and moves.

I know this is very new to a lot of little thinking folks on NL and in Nigeria, it's hard for them to understand and digest what is going on in Lagos state when their villages ARE basically still in back in the stone age.

Lagos state is fast moving ahead of Nigeria itself. 

I can not help but rejoice to the fact that these backward elements are never gonna be part of any decision making body in Alahusa.

I even feel sorry for their villages for the low thinking caliber of people they are blessed with.

olanajim:
babapupa,
I am sure you are the one that deserved that comment. I am more of an insider than you think. Always think before replying posts. I am sure the things you typed are the rubbish!

I drafted a memo for the Nigerian Institution of Civil Engineers in support of the light rail project. Unknown to you, and your cyber-commentators, the project is facing some problems. I should know better since I drafted the memo, which was meant for the FG. Also we have close link with the CCECC. So, in my opinion, the airport is a white elephant project and will gulp more money than stated.

If Fashola is truly focus, he should know that he cant just build a airport without FG approval and that it is best to sort out the problem with light rails before going into another project of even greater challenge.

FYI, no one can operate an airport unless FG through her agencies permit it. And no where in the world will airport operates without air traffic controllers etc. You cant tell me that if FG waged veracious war against Lagos Independent power project(which died anyway) due to refusal of nepa to cooperate, and also against the use of Nigerian railway track and route (which is yet to be fully resolved), then it, FG, will simply conceed a airspace like that. Surely, most comentators are misfit when it come to commenting on issues like this. So many things needed to be done before announcing the project. Just like the IPP, and the light rail, I am sure Lagos state first dazzle public opinions before contacting relevant authority. That is why the project may fail or suffer another lengthy extension with attendan waste of resources.

Looking at the geographical size of lagos, from profesional angle, the airport is useless and will only benefit the rich who are in hurry to get to their location. The best will have been to have helicopter instead!

Anyway, it is good to have #73b airport when our schools and medical centres are begging for attention. It is in Nigerian culture to waste time and money on bigger problem that tackling smaller ones.

Must you bore me with this silly nonsense?

KnowAll:
[size=14pt][b]The thread is not about Light Railways, [/b]it is about unwarranted, egoistic and money miss-road white elephant Airport project. Having said that the light Railway remains a phantom until it is operational and funtional.[/size]

But you and your ignorant crew are free to use it to criticize the proposed airport right?

You're beginning to sound like a white elephant yourself. Not making sense shouldn't be the only part of your make up.

Just like before on NL by no progress loving people like you, the BRT was egotistical and money miss road too.

Kobojunkie:
Oh Goody!!!

I see the thread has once again been taken over by the "INSULT THEM INTO THE GROUND, TO PROVE OUR SIDE IS RIGHT RATHER THAN ACTUALLY MAKE REASONABLE AND RATIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO COUNTER OPPOSING ARGUMENTS" gang!!! WOOHOO!!!

Are you not tired of repeating the same rubbish every time your stupidity and ignorance gets exposed?

olanajim:
personally,
I think it is wrong for fashola to build Airport in Lagos. We have domestic airport and international airport both of which are under utilised. He should invest the money on light rail and stop aiming at too many ambitious projects at once.

Can't believe people still type this rubbish, especially when the lagos rail system is under construction as we speak.


How do you deal with this level of ignorance?

martinosi:
CO-SIGN, Fashola has a State to deal with.
He should look at revitalising the mainland Lagos with Industry & Commerce
and residential development projects, the schools & health services and internal
infrastruture.

Why do olodo people always co sign other olodo people?

Lagos mainland remains the industrial heart of the whole of West Africa. All our major industrial estates from Ikeja, to Ilupeju, Apapa,  Mushin,  Ogba
Matori, Ikorodu, Ilasamaja-Isolo Industrial Estate, Aswani Industrial  Estate are all Lagos Mainland based.

The mainland by far has more residential estates and commerce heavens  than Lagos island,

You clueless people need to shut up sometimes, it's not by force to display your ignorance. Try spend some more time worrying about your villages and worry less about Lagos.

banku:
Another Tinapa project!

What else is new? We heard the same BS about the BRT, Metrol rail, Badagry express.

Go worry about your village and let Lagosians worry about Lagos state.

spoilt:
How about first fixing the one that's rotting before our eyes? 

Another ignorant talk,

Why don't you forward your suggestion to Abuja?

It doesn't belong to the Lagos state government, they can't even pure concrete on the sidewalk.

Kobojunkie:
Uummm . . .  He is NOT giving into anything. He is simply doing his duty as governor, and PUBLIC officer, and that is make available to the Assembly, and then the public as a result, information that will better answer questions asked in the petition. That is all. And if any additional questions come back on what is revealed, THEN, and THEN only will he need to come in to the courts to answer questions on such, if the need arises.

A Petition is NOT a summons of some sort, it is an appeal, in this case, to government for something to be made available or questions to be answered.

All that does not even come into this at all. For democracy to work, we need ALL of it to work, not some. No matter who we pretend to know is playing games, we still need to ensure that in all democracy is respected all the time.

Listen to this perpetual olodo.

What do you know about democracy? Your  ignorant posts in this thread clearly highlight the fact that you are either running your mouth off just for the heck of it as usual or you are just clueless and ignorant as previously observed.

In any civilized society, when allegations are made, the DA steps in and investigate, he gathers relevant evidence of wrong doing and if there is any, he presents his case to the grand jury to further indictment and court notice/s.

In any sane society, you don't yell ole and have people investigated without showing evidence of wrong doing, people get sued for false allegations and libel. People get away with it in Nigeria because of ignorant people like you.

Democracy means due process, not jungle justice like the one you keep regurgitating all over the place. Only fools responds to silly and unproven  allegations without judicial backing. Fashola is a lawyer, not your average peppersoup politician and  in case you don't know, the man knows his rights.

Till this very minute, there is no proof of anything besides the silly allegations you're cluelessly posting all over the place as if you've never seen the four corner walls of an elementary school. Even a day old baby knows the Governor is not under any obligation to say or do anything till called or asked to do so by the EFCC, the state legislature, or the court of law.

The burden is not on him to prove anything, it's on the accusers to prove their case with credible facts and evidence which they don't have and are not producing, even the panel stated that they can not move forward till the idiots show proof to assert their allegations against the Governor.

Now, what do you want him to make available to the assembly?

What the assembly didn't ask for and will never ask for?

Has he been invited by the assembly to say or do anything?

Again, in case your ignorant self don't know,  the lawmakers have access  and power to secure any documented evidence within the state government and even summon any state official. 

Answer me olodo buruku


I hope the quote below sooth your ignorant and hateful heart,

Adeyeye had at an earlier sitting said that work of the body could not proceed if the True Face of Lagos was unable to provide evidence on its allegations.

Adebayo Adesina, Chairman of the group however differed when asked to substantiate the itemized charges against the governor, saying that the allegations arose from petitions received by unidentified sources.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201004290434.html

Just because you know how to spell democracy doesn't mean you know the meaning or how it works. You clearly asserted your ignorance and irrational thought process with your dumb and layman post.

You can fool your co-olodos with your meaningless and pointless epistles, but trust me, I'm here to expose your ignorance and silly talk.

odiaero:
plz do not insult me, i said my opinion plz say urs an leave the thread, b4 u will be using london to compare lagos 

I know some of you don't read your  nonsense before hitting reply. Who injected Europe into the conversation? You of course.

PapaBrowne:
@Blaksmith
Thats for the excellent speech jare! You've said it all. I wish those against can read your speech and gain better understanding on the direct links between creating investment friendly environments(which the airport would do) and the uplifting of the populace from the dregs of poverty into a den of wealth!

Unfortunately, it's not their intention to understand, the idea is to object by any means necessary. Theirs is not a matter of what's good for the state of Lagos and Lagosians, it's despise Lagos and everything it stands for.

It's hard to debate folks with little or no knowledge per Lagos State. The ignorant quote below was posted after strenuously explaining since page 1 that the Lagos rail system is under construction as we speak.

Posted by: odiaero
for me this is waste of time an money, MM is already there, they should channel the money into good railway projects not Airport

Just because they are not interested in facts, they bury their heads in ignorance and repetitive objections.

I don't even think some of these folks know what they are objecting to.

blaksmith:
Many don't understand what a 2nd airport will do to Lagos. MM is Federal and so no revenue accrues to Lagos; a Lagos owned airport will increase revenue to Lagos for the years to come, it is capital intensive but in 20years time, Lagos will still continue to reap the benefits, In terms of population, Lagos is at least 2ce the size of London and definitely larger in terms of land mass, yet London has 4 airports: Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead and London City Airport, all providing different levels of international and regional flights.

Many say MM1 is enough, Far from it, With Lagos being the busiest route in West Africa and probably second to Johannesburg in Africa, one tiny Airport that manages to operate one runaway is not enough. The Lagos Govt has realised the loss of revenue the Nigeria suffers with only on e airport in Lagos. All the major airlines in the world want to fly into Lagos and those already flying want to increase their slots but they can't simply because MM1 does not have the capacity to deal with such an influx. Don't criticize simply because you don't understand.

Lekki axis also needs to be developed, the mainland is congested as it is. Lekki/Epe expressway has virgin land that would remain undeveloped unless incentives are in place to ensure return on capital fro any investments made.An airport and a freetrade zone definitely signals the right intentions.

And hello, a lekki/mainland bridge would obviously decongest traffic on bbloody third mainland bridge and that axis,

Fashola is not the Federal Govt so you can not expect him to tackle things that should necessarily fall within the purview of the Fed, many of you talk about healthcare, and unemployment, Capital projects create employment, do you think jobs just appear out of thin air. You spend money to make money. And setting in place capital projects is creating sustainable development. Healthcare, is not free and many of the people who need healthcare basically cannot afford it. Through creation of better jobs, they can better afford healthcare, and revenue that accrues to Lagos State can be channeled into upgrading the healthcare system in Lagos,

The opinion of those who dissent with this project point towards a quick fix or short term solution to the problems we face. That manner of doing things has been a bane to our development process. Our problems require solutions that adopt a long term and well structured strategy. Solutions and answers that outlive the tenure of any administrator or executive office holder. I want to be able to say 10years from now Fashola took a decision which would be positively impacting my yet to be born children. The bible advices us to leave an inheritance to our children's children. Simply put, your legacy should be felt in the generations to com when you are long gone.

To those who understand the greater ramifications of building an international Lagos and are not afraid to take those bold steps, i am sure you all will understand my angle of approach. A new Lagos airport is not just an airport to me, it signals the construction of a gateway to economic progression and sustained development.

What an excellent post.

Salute,

idifu:
if he  knows his hands are as clean as a white satin then let him submit himself ,he is afraid of probe cuz he has got lot of skeletons in his cupboard, both old and fresh skeletons this is why he doesn't want to be probed, Nigeria is the only country in the world that public office holders like governers and their likes think they are bigger than d rule of law it is time to show these guys dat no man is above the law like Steven Seagal

Is he hiding?

Has he been summoned and he refused to show up?

Is he under any kind of indictment?

How do you suggest he submit himself?

Go to the police station?

go to the EFCC without invitation?

Go to the state legislature without invitation?

Go to the court?

Just how? 

Btw, you know he's afraid of the probe because you felt his hard beating and scary heart?


Sometimes I wonder about some of you loonies on NL. Some of you think like elementary kids,

Kobojunkie:
You are kidding me? I have made my stance clear from post one and you are still asking me the question above? LEARN TO READ rather than making baseless assumptions!!
Again, learn to READ!!!

For the umpteenth time, learn to READ!!! Anyone with a brain and ability to read would have figured out my stance by now, but then if you do not read what I actually posted, how would you?

You keep asking people to learn to read, but when are you going to cure your Ignorance ravaged brain with basic knowledge about Lagos state?

You don't know anything, you wont offer any meaningful solution to anything. All you do is say no to and object to everything Lagos.

It's just a shame that people are going back and forth with you because they don't know you and your twilight zone sense of reasoning, I'm sure they are catching on. 

You are nothing but a nuisance in the arena of ideas and intelligent discussion.