₦airaland Forum

Well it just tells us that not all infrastructure lead to large economic growth.. some just improve quality of life which is good.. But then a govt must understand that tó improve the economy, have more people with independent livelihoods, there are specific infrastructure, specific policies and specific actions that must be undertaken.

Also, the people themselves must do away with the culture of laziness and expecting oil royalties and be more enterprising... the igbos can be emulated in this area.

FellaG:
I am from akwa ibom bro.all my friends in Uyo are PA to PA to SA to a political office holder etc.
Nobody criticizes the government cos they gat to feed.
All our fathers,mothers,uncle's and aunties were civil servants..they have not paid them gratuity some for 7years..they only managed to pay a batch of 2016 last.meanwhile we are in 2023..
Cars are few on the roads,just Keke and mass trekking.
Any brand new car you see,must has govt plate number.no businesses just politicians building hotels everywhere.they open fancy boutiques for thier wives..and guess what,no sales at the boutiques because the masses do not have the purchasing power.
If not for the Igbos,I don't know how they would have coped.
The average akwa ibomite is a lazy person tho.

Pls stop demonising Honda
Leg problems ENDED IN 2008!!

Ransomtheking:
When I saw that guy directing the op to go for Honda CR-V,this is the exact thought that came to my mind

Why hyundai when there is honda-- honda accord 2014 Nigerian used 4.3-4.7m.
Or the toyota camry 2014 nigerian used same price.
Or if u insist tokunbo accord 2011

Xtraordinare:
Hello experienced Nairalanders

Please for someone with a budget of 4m which of this cars would you advice one to buy. Note the car is one that should be able to serve for atleast 4years.

Belgium 2010 Pontiac Vibe
Belgium 2011 Hyundai Sonata
Belgium 2010 Hyundai Santafe
Nigerian used Honda Crv which I know there will be change at the end of the day.

Please help with reliability and maintenance of this vehicles..

Please note I don't want anything outside this vehicles I mentioned...

Thanks for your contribution

https://www.nairaland.com/7661503/what-common-things-surprised-other#122659184

For those who say the chaos in Nigeria is what necessitates a move abroad-- u could as well move to other African countries that are organised and avoid racism

It is a bit disturbing that d guy would ever jokingly call a dog his former girl friend

Agbadocassava:
Binani is going to retrieve her stolen mandate if Fintiri is declared the winner.

You can’t declare two candidates winner of the same election, Binani has already been declared winner, no more case

You should be exiled to a concentration camp and made to farm agbado morning and night!!

You this juvenile, jobless child!

VictorMessi1:
No. He will disregard the words that echoes madness just like the one you are releasing from the pit you call mouth.

Family is important in marriage choice...But then you are already in this. As long as you and your husband are ok together, I think separating because of family is not it.. Hold on tight to your husband.. if they hate ur family, that is their business... Ur own business is to ensure u don't hate them back and to ensure that hate is not transferred to ur husband. May God help you.

BrighterThanDay:
As a child from a broken home, I saw marriage as my happy ending of finally having a home filled with love and mutual understanding. After the death of my mom, growing up with my dad and stepmom was hell. I was treated as a stranger in my own home, so I thought starting my own family will be a lot better.

After I completed my education and got a good job. I had a lot of suitors willing to settle down with me. Most of them were rich and accomplished men, but there was no spark, I felt they weren't genuinely in love with me, and since I was never a materialistic person, I turned them down. I get easily content with what I have and I spend prudently. Then I met my husband. It happened that I was his crush back then in school, in fact, he even approached me as a student then, but I turned him down because I knew where I was coming from and I never wanted to gamble with my studies, it was my only hope to leave my father's house and fend for myself.

Fast forward to when I met my husband after school. He didn't even have a good job. But I could tell I meant a great deal to him, we'll speak for hours on the phone. I fell hopelessly in love with him, I could already picture a happy home with him and our kids. Then he proposed, and I accepted. I met his family, they were nice on the first visit.

After the introduction ceremony with my family, I started noticing certain things. I was taking pictures with his phone when I saw a message from his mom telling him I'm a stranger and he shouldn't allow me to come between them. I was surprised and wondered where all this was coming from, I asked him and he reassured me that it was nothing.

Then his father told me that hope I know that a son should love and care for his parents more than his kids. I kept pondering this statement. Then the worse of it all was his married sister, she hasn't even met me, but she rained insults and abuses on me on his phone and why he needs to make money first and allow his family to enjoy his money, before getting married. She said I was old, and just forcing him to marry me. I was just 26 then, but my education was very fast.

I had to speak to her dad about this and he cautioned her. I tried speaking to her myself but she rained insults again on me. I called off the wedding at a point but my then-fiance begged and involved my brother and so we went on with the wedding preparations. The wedding went well and his entire family stayed with us for a week before leaving.

My husband got a good job, I was working, we were fine and money wasn't our problem. A few months later, my father-in-law died. I sent messages and called hubby's siblings to comfort them. I couldn't travel with him immediately due to the nature of my job. I kept calling to check on him and inquire about the traditional rites I might need to be a part of. Hubby said his father was a pastor so he won't need to do anything, while we were yet speaking, his sister who hates me snatched the phone from him and said I have to do this and that or I should pack my things and leave the house and then she shouted at me.

I was so pissed and acted in a way that wasn't right considering that we were all mourning. I sent a message to her, telling her to be nice considering that we are all mourning but if she chooses to continue insulting and humiliating me for no reason, I won't take it. She forwarded the message to the entire family, including uncles, aunts, and grandchildren. On the day of the burial, I was treated as an outcast by the entire family, she told them not to give my birth family food, even though they came bearing gifts and comforting everyone. Hubby had to step in and ask the caterers to serve them.

She kept fighting and shouting at my hubby throughout the burial and tried denying him of things he was supposed to do as the first son and child. I was humiliated and she kept castigating my name and insulting me to hearings of everyone. I wasn't even allowed to eat. I was quiet all through, when family members were asked to sit behind the corpse, she asked me to excuse them.

For fear of my life after the burial, I had to go lodge in a hotel outside. The next morning she and her brother kept shouting and complaining that why did hubby allow me to lodge and that I should have been with their mom. They continued the humiliation, I couldn't take it anymore or hold back my tears so I left.

Hubby later told me that she held a meeting in my absence with the entire family and told them I'm a bad wife and needs to leave her brother. This was when hubby stood up for me and said I wasn't going anywhere.

Our marriage was never the same. Even when we had our daughter, no one called, hubby was ostracized from his own family and he blamed me sometimes. I couldn't concentrate at work, and my job is performance-based. I was scared that I'll be fired, so I resigned.

Hubby's income wasn't enough to sustain us, so we started facing financial difficulties. He had to even go meet the same sister to borrow money, even though I discouraged it. She always mocked him for it and I had to pay off the loan at a point.


When she saw that we are now broke, she stopped fighting with him and they are on talking terms now, of course, she still wants nothing to do with me. I know that they are family by blood and nothing is too hard to forgive, but each time she calls and they are happily discussing, Ican't help but feel angry for all she has caused us. I'm sometimes tempted to leave this marriage because this is not what I envisaged at all.

My brother is also married and I have never felt the need to interfere in his marriage or fight his wife.

I don't know how long I can continue in this union, even my innocent beautiful daughter is hated by them.

The problem with this thought is that it assumes because it is BAD in Nigeria for someone, a move abroad can never be WORSE for d person!! Very untrue.. (Look at nigerians' move from Jona to Buhari for instance) U in frying pan can jump out and end up in fire.. So d individual needs to not be blind to realities but carefully consider various factors to
compare his life here and realistically possible life over there.

tensazangetsu20:
Well anyone who can afford it should do it. You can't lose betting against Nigeria especially once this new regime is sworn in except you are well-connected politically

Like she could retire to her village and live a very serene life rather than have to battle extreme cold

xavuv:
All for the wrong reasons again ...

sukkot:
he is not doing the calculations correctly. When he starts paying American school fees he would discover he would reach his financial goals in the year 2060

Sukkot, rest this, more than half of Nigeria immigrants may not be finding it rosy financially but u have quite a number doing very well...

I usually like to start my T-chart of pros & cons from the assumption that u do well financially... But even with this, I still see some other negative factors that outweigh higher financial prosperity.. like wrong doctrines taught kids, the laws around
kids' discipline, subtle & direct racism & social life with F&F

1 more quote. This is for those still intending to japa though.
Anyways I think there are lots scattered pros and cons of both sides and there is tendency of just bumping onto a point and run all the way with it whereas there are many other for and against points. The best thing is to do an honest table of pros and cons and see if pros outweigh and if u can really live with d cons

sisisioge:
It's ok to disagree. Every mallam to his kettle. May God not let you have any dire reason to use naija healthcare system for instance, that's when you will understand why there is a thing called medical Tourism. I hope people will stop quoting me on this matter fa . Cheers.

MrBrownJay1:
i refuse to believe that it costs 20M to move to the UK... from Nigeria.

What is people's problem fGs-- hw can u say u refuse to believe? If it is truly so, does ur antibelief change it? Why not ascertain yourself?
This is how pple will spend long hours debating and holding an opinion they have not verified or researched...

Just based on the advantages & disadvantages YOU wrote alone, I completely disagree one is better off over there.
And I know of other disadvantages!!

sisisioge:
Hmmmm, what faces person A might be backing person B o. Many didnt plan it well while some just did it for basic things like:

1. The free education for the kids. O boy, my friends kids are doing the kind of researches our university students cant do in their grade schools. Their level of thinking, discussions and reasoning is humbling to those of us that grew up in naija. You speak to a 6yo and wonder where that confidence and brightness came from...

2. Healthcare. Hmmmm, I dont want to tell you what someone close to me went through last year. If it were in naija, she's a goner. We thank God and the country for mercies.

3. Peace of mind and better quality of life. I cant over emphasize it. A friend visited naija recently from Canny and was unable to have a good night sleep, he had forgotten the kind of unrest that was our "normal" ....Bangers, gun shots, armed robbers, naija police, agbero, reckless road users, avoidable deaths, messy healthcare, etc.

4. Better infrastructures

5. The choice of country. There are some countries that is a sheer waste of time and resources. At the moment, UK is saturated, some parts of the US is dangerous. Na to choose right o.

Honestly, if one hasn't left naija, one wont realize what one is missing. Yes, it's expensive, harder to break into the labour market especially to be on the same level one was in naija, harder to save money, harder to get used to their food....but the means justifies the end. If them clean up naija today....everyone will run back home cos there is no place like home.

What a sadist u want to become!
Well.. why it is correct that u owe no one, it isn't necessary to make someone close to u feel upset by not wishing him or her a simple happy birthday

Tomiwasamuel:
There is an evil which the daughters and sons of men have put into practice this days that ought not to be so. I know birthdays are days of celebration to many but there are some of us who either see birthdays as insignificant or as equal as the other days of the year.

First of, know that no body owe you the responsibility of putting your birthday before other things in their life, if I can't even remember mine why should I remember yours?

Secondly, if I don't send you a message or give you a call on your birthday it doesn't mean I don't wish you well, how important is my good will message to you being alive next year?

Thirdly, with emphasis on the ladies, stop demanding anyone to get you a birthday gift, if you need something start contributing the money and buy it for yourself. Also you can gift us some snacks on your birthday if gifts are so important.

In conclusion, please stop flooding our DM with your pictures a day before your birthday, if we want to post you we know where to get it. Sending me your pictures doesn't mean I will post you or even send you a happy birthday message. I mean no problem, this is the bitter truth and I just said it. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

Unfortunately, while you will avoid an immediate problem, you will be creating a bigger problem of perpetuating thuggery as more younger ones will see it as a very profitable way of life.. and then cycle never ends . And thuggery becomes very rife in the society. It will become a menace.
No don't manage evil.. deal with it once and for all!!

MasterTeeUSA:
I was speaking to someone about this issue of Agberos, and I told the person...Governance is like whac-a-mole. If you solve one problem, another rises. That is why I was praying GRV does not win because he would have turned Lagos into chaos...even those in Lekki would not be able to stay clear of major issues.

If you eliminate Agberos, what will you do with thousands of guys? Retrain then...some of them are drug addicts and drunkards...there is a reason they are doing agberos and I doubt they can do any formal education. What about artisan work? Have you seen some of these guys..you think they will learn plumbing or agriculture and wait for harvest and yields or for someone to call them for work before they can eat?

Lock them up in Jail...how many prisons will you build, how many staff, cost of feeding them and getting all of them through the court systems would be a major disaster.

So should we just accept this norm...NO

1. You normalize them like Lagos agreed to do...Lagos should print the tickets

2. Allow these guys to sell them - maybe 500 tickets @ N1000 = N50,000; Private vehicles can pay N100 per day...that is N2k - N3k per month and it will be used to pay for people to maintain roads, clean gutters, and so on.

3. Pay them daily - like N5000 (N100,000 weekdays) which is 10% of the total take in and their Ogas will take N2500 (5%) per person

4. Create a hierarchy of leadership - One oga will have like 10 guys under in covering major areas...so Oga will cash in N500,000 monthly

5. This process for this Team will generate N42,500 per person (85%) which is N8.5million monthly (Salary N1.5m from Revenue intake of N10m monthly) for one area...Lagos can easily have 500 of these areas raking in N5billion and N60 billion annually. Anambra, Onitsha can do the same and the money will be channels to fix roads, drainages and revamp the markets.

6. Give or take the Govt can play with the figures and bring in 70-75% and increase the payment for Oga or boys or Ticket sale

7. You can also sell Morning, Afternoon, and Evening and use different sets of boys so you generate 3 times the revenue, multiply the employment by 3 and use 2 sets of Ogas or Same...

8. They will have distinct wears that they pick up at the Oga in the morning, afternoon or evening and they can switch them so it will be difficult for copycats to make them or have companies that will supply them these wears with random colors weekly.

9. These will eliminate the fake agberos and also provide employment chain for the uniform or vest suppliers...they will also take care of the dry cleaning needs.

10. Youths need employment..money must flow...you need to cater to different types of people. Eliminating them is not the answer.

Doing a job first helps to build work discipline and have a little idea about how business is run.

Some jobs pay better financially than owing a business

Businesses take more toll on u psychologically than a job.

Businesses can fail, u can also lose your job

Businesses make your time more flexible

If you start a business, make you learn the rudiments of business and effective risk management

SamsonDGreat:
I want us to discuss about this.

A lot of people find it difficult to make a choice or take a stand concerning this topic.

Back up your take with some points and examples if available.

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Such a difficult life you have chosen for yourself to not believe in d creator of you and your world.. And d devil would stay behind the curtains so u won't see he is responsible for your delusion.

SKIBiNSKI:
There are no such thing as miracles, that shit is just hocus pocus! white man wrote the fairytale book called bible and used it to brainwash lazy hopeless brainless africans who keeps waiting, praying and starving (fasting) themselves so that miracle can happen in their hopeless lazy poor lives. Yet nothing changes, they are even suffering more, their lives conditions and countries has got worse rather. And they are still praying for miracles to happen. Fuuls!

The 'holding' of the sun for a day by Joshua. Like a major law governing the whole earth was suspended

hart12:
These are the miracles that amazed me the most.


Moses pathing the red sea, jesus turning water into wine, and abraham having a son in his late 90's


Let's gather and discuss

You sure can't give ur kids cane beating lest u risk them being taken away from you.
Oh yes, totally intolerant of such lgbt nonsense.. Better they are hidden from daylight than forcing society, children to accept them.
For crying out loud, she is doing N2m+/month.. even someone on 500k can comfortably get by in Lagos. 2m is £2k approx. If she is able to start with a £3k after tax job, she is lucky and with that she still can't have that level of financial freedom she has in Nigeria. Her income to BASIC expenses ratio is far higher in Nigeria than the UK with the scenarios above.
Someone said she works from home in Nigeria--what is d stress?-- she doesn't have to take d 9-5 job. In UK, she will likely have to start with on-site jobs doing more than 1 shift a day to get by.
Yes, education quality is higher in the UK- I'm not talking about that- I'm talking about d family values, gender lies they try to inculcate to an innocent child.

justwise:
My comment here is not for pro/against moving to the UK, but i do think that some folks here post out of ignorant and fear mongering .

To your post...kids here are not empowered to call the police on their parents as you put it, this is one of those fear mongering people pure out to support their argument.

Your issues with LGBT is just lack of tolerance for other people's sexual preferences/practises which many straight or heterosexual individuals engaged in. There are a lot of LGBT communities in Nigeria hidden from the public but very active online.

Please explain to me how her purchasing power will be lower in the UK compared to Nigeria or other countries?

If she will be more stressed in the UK then she will be living in hell in Nigeria because Nigeria is the actual definition of stress.

I think when it comes to educational system Nigeria has the worse share of it, if you don't have money to send your kids to expensive private school in Nigeria then your kids are taught by bunch of uneducated, lower paid and demoralised teachers.

Penguin2 bird shut up!! This is one reason why this igbophobia thing arose... Obi is a great guy. Many of us supported him.. and some great pple.did not-- it doesn't make everything about them bad! Your soludo is a good guy.. he simply played his own politics

Penguin2:
Unfortunately, Soludo has now become stupid.

The gods have made him mad and he’s now into letter writing.

Retribution awaits him.

Oh for sure there isn't a doctrine that empowers your child to call d police on you in Nigeria.
Neither is there any that forces the society to accept totally d arrant nonsense of lgbt.
She has less dating opportunities in d UK.
Her purchasing power will be far lower in the UK even though she will earn more.
She will be far more stressed in d UK with less time for herself.
The educational system can shove down any rubbish they like on her children without she having any say.

justwise:
Wow! You know this for certain because? What doctrine in the UK that is not everywhere in Nigeria?

Going forward ,.ladies should see this and think deeply about the consequences of premarital sex... Forget about d attention, d threats of being left. Think about consequence- - better to be safe than sorry.. Young Ladies, advice yourselves in your groups and discussions.. be safet than sorry

Human23:
My name is Mary.
I am four months pregnant and I got abandoned by my boyfriend. I told him about it when I was three weeks gone and he said he doesn't want to be part of it. When it was time to register for antenatal I told him again and even sent him pictures of the registration. But this time he blocked me on all social media and also blocked my number. I got my friends to reach out to him and he said the same thing. Few days back I got my friend to remind me again on how far I've gone and how hard it has been having to face this pregnancy alone, but still he repeated and said " I am not a party to it".
To the cause of this pregnancy I lost my job.
I live alone and recently my Younger brother came to join me because he needed to complete his fashion training in Abuja .

I have been trying to get a job ever since I lost my previous one but to no avail.. now I'm scared. I made up my mind to have my baby and gradually I've been making plans to prepare me for the future. But I'm scared. Being a single mother at 25 is not what I planned for myself and I sincerely wish to be with a partner. As stupid as it may sound I wish I could find love and the thought of knowing that having this child might scare people away from me is what breaks my heart. I'm stuck at the whole thought of getting a job, having a baby, and finding love again.

Biko I need your advice please.

Don't try it!!! U earn so well enough to deal with any financial issues in Nigeria. U could also try d job out at least for some months.
There is absolutely nothing in d UK if you have something doing in Nigeria. U can't japa for your children-- with all the indiscipline, lgbt doctrine , drugs, call ing police on u
Yes there is some uncertainty about your financial future in Nigeria- they say anything can happen but going to UK is certain to bring regrets considering ur current profile

PJtech:
japa

But do u know u are beginning to be sick-- comparing a dog with a whole human being.
Nothing any animal or thing can do can make it have more value than a human being. If u think otherwise, that is sickness.. Like u need deliverance.

9jahitplay:
Lol.. I guess u are a aboki who love cow more than human being..fact most dogs are more valuable and more better friends than human...a dog can die for u ? Can u die for any of ur family member, a dog can be of help make.u happy don't even leave ur side , they won't do u wrong like humans...no better friend in this world than a dog ... All life .matters ..dog or Human being.
.all life .matters

You this kid, forget about a common dog and move on with your life! Why should you be so attached to a dog like that? As to even value it more than human beings? Kid know that now --That is so wrong!!!
Next time make sure your dogs stay in your house!

9jahitplay:
To all in support of the killing of Roxie ...you don't know wat going on this news as already got international attention ,the killers are goin to rot in jail, this case is goin on , it on arise tv, BBC now goin on CNN ..even insta blog posted about it and many verified Nigeria news portal and radio station posted about and speak about the issue on their radio and tv....if u like go kill person dog wey Sabi use social media ..u wil rot in jail and also pay for murder ...

It is not just about the intentions of the child but d child also having wisdom. Beating the child is not revenge, it is communicating with d child that he has done badly and should not do that next time. And you are doing this for his own good.
Forget your so called love-- love must include discipline.

Btw just taking away things d child loves to do is not enough for some things because he can easily adapt to do other things... he might need actual body pain (beating)

Lemmy123:
Now you're cracking me up with the whole washing thing 😂

About me buying an iPhone and letting my sister's kid wash it, of course e go pain me but I won't touch the kid... I know myself


Oya, no vex... On behalf the kid, we're sorry 😊😁🙏

You are a completely ILLOGICAL person... A very corrupt individual is d answer to your prayers? What exactly are u praying about?

N3TRAL:
It was only Bola Tinubu who damned the consequences and challenged Buhari and Emefiele not to proceed with the policy.

Atiku Alootakar supported it.

Pandora Obidîot supported it.


The North remembers.

Jagaban is Allah's will for us.


God willing, he will put a total end to suffering in Nigeria.

Any challenge against Bola Tinubu is a challenge against Islam because he is Allah's response to our cries.

Allah 'Akbar

الله أكبر

PLS PLS SPANK THE CHILD!!!! The child will not die.
Compare the western teenager behaviours vs African teenage behaviours. Pls stop all these spanking is not necessary!!

DRPAIT123:
....

The rod of discipline as the bible puts it IMO only has the end goal of modeling and correcting a child; this must not be achieved by spanking at all cost.

I understand that the concept of spanking has been adopted by Africans for a long time now and many people now see it as the one and only way to making an erring child turn a new leaf but that is when it all gets defective, dogmatically conservative and close-minded.

Spanking is just one of the many ways by which a child can be corrected and we as Africans must not be oblivious of that fact.

I won't say spanking does not work but I'd like to believe that there are better ways of handling things.

In short, I won't be subjecting my future kids to extreme torture in the name of seeking corrective measures. And just so you know, they will still turn out fine and even better.

I had classmates way back in my primary and secondary school days who were thoroughly flogged consistently for being obstinate and they never changed just cos they were beaten.

The logic should not be to spank by all means but to get the needed results using the best available approaches.