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[b]Somebody, there is no difference between moslem and muslim,i guess moslem was a more english version, while muslim is more of arabic or hausa. The difference is just the spellings and nothing more.

If any scholar justified violence as religious then he is quoting the wrong book.

However, you guys have always misunderstood some Islamic criminal punishments.

Its a fact that Islam views Adultery as a great sin desirable of severe punishment. The stoning sentence was suppose to be a deterrant and not an actual punishment. the mere thought of the punishment may scare people away from it. However, before the sentence is prescribed, there has to be 4 honest, adult and reliable witnesses who saw the acts live. that is almost impossible. where verdict are passed,the criminals are never arrested but given freewill to submit themselves for punishment. i can understand why this particular issue might not be understood by christian but to muslims, it is an unquestionable divine law. so everyone is warned. If you insist on committing adultery, just like AIDS, dont get caught and wait for your punishment in the hereafter.No one stalk anyone on this.

Same goes to cutting off the wrist of a thief, only if it can be proven that he does not steal out of neccessity and dire stress. However, Islam draws a line between theft and corruption. Corruption punishment comes under betrayal of trust which has milder sentence but does not stop there.The corrupt official must be forced to return everything or is allowed to face the Lord almighty in the hereafter. A thief that steal from an identified individual is better off,if his case is determined and settle on earth.

Sharia law is a wide area, i dont expect everyone to understand my simple analogy but we muslims accept it wholeheartedly as the code of our existence. Please, give us a chance to practice our religion.

Peace [/b]

[b]When i started this topic i expected everyone to understand the position of Islam about the percieved muslims aggressions against innocent people. It has being evident that while we profess a religion we may not always abide by its injunctions. If we understand Mr Bush activities as a political killing so also the upheavals in Iraq and other islamic countries. When God chosed the name Islam as a title for our religion it was clear from onset we are enjoined to be peace loving people. Islam is an arabic word for Peace as you may all know.

There is an ugly trend in this forum that portray us as myopic religious bigotS. Its quite unfortunate because i am sure that was not the intention of the administrators. I am a passionate moslem, i pray 5 times daily, i performed my Hajj, i perform my fasting regularly and i try my best to be the best muslim i can be. But i see christians or even Atheists as my brothers and fellow human beings who share the same freedom to practice their choosen faith. I don't judge them and i don't think they are senseless. i just feel we live in a free world. Never in my wildest imagination can i even try to say a nasty thing about The great Jesus of Nazreth, Peace be Upon Him. He was a blessing to mankind.

What we need here is to understand the fact that majority of armed robbers in nigeria are christians does not imply christianity preaching armed robbery and the fact that terrorism is prevalent in muslim countries does not also suggest islam sanction terrorist acts. We all believe in one God and should try as much as we can to be our brothers keepers. Lets not use this forum to disrespect our religious leaders, lets try to be the best human being we can. lets preach love and peace irrespective of our religious differences.

Ofcourse, we are free to seek for clarification on religious issues in a very nice, subtle and decent manners.[/b]

What may sound strange to you is that Prophet muhammad has never killed an innocent soul and never encouraged any one to do that. Any killing of innocent soul in the name of islam is wrong.

You know, we need to dust up our books and get to know these ourselves.

Hey, that was a nice way to ask. Please find out for yourself search the net about the true life history of Prophet muhammad (SAW) and see what you ll get. you can visit this link or any other one; www.mpac-ng.org

The Prophet followed that to the latter

Islam does not permit aggression against innocent people, whether the aggression is against life, property, or honour, and this ruling applies to everyone, regardless of position, status and prestige. In Islam, as the state’s subject is addressed with Islamic teachings, so is the ruler or caliph; he is not allowed to violate people's rights, lives, honour, property, etc.

In the Farewell Pilgrimage, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) declared the principle that people's lives, property, and honour are inviolable until the Day of Judgment. This ruling is not restricted to Muslims; rather, it includes non-Muslims who are not fighting Muslims. Even in case of war, Islam does not permit killing those who are not involved in fighting, such as women, children, the aged, and the monks who confine themselves to worship only.

This shouldn’t raise any wonder, for Islam is a religion that prohibits aggression even against animals. Ibn `Umar, may Allah be pleased with them both, quoted the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, as saying: "A woman (was made to) enter (Hell) Fire because of a cat which she tied, neither giving it food nor setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth." (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

If such is Islamic ruling concerning aggressive acts against animals then the punishment is bound to be severe when human being happens to be the victim of aggression, torture and terrorism.

Source:
IslamOnline.Net Fatwa Section - Yusuf Al-Qaradawi

During a wedding reception; the groom was called upon to give his
response to his guests and it went like this:

[b]I want to first of all thank the Lord Almighty for creating my wife and
to also thank the pastor and his wife for lending us their wedding
rings.

Special appreciation to my landlord who lent us his car.


I am most grateful to my boss for approving the loan I used for the
wedding.

Big thanks to the committee of friends for the appeal fund they raised.

Also to my brothers wife, thank you for lending us your wedding gown.

Am so grateful to the cake designer for the cake. I promised to return
it tomorrow morning as agreed.

Special thanks to my friends who brought food from their homes to help
me feed you all. Please for those who were served food good luck and
for those who didnt get any, well we will make it up to you during our
children dedication hopefully next year.

Very big thanks to my parents for bringing the village cultural band to
supply the music.

Not forgetting the church marriage committee, thank you for persuading
my wife to marry me.

Appreciation to the married men in the church for rushing me into this
marriage.

The women are not left out, thanks a lot for teaching my wife how to
dance.

To the youths thank you for sweeping and decorating this venue with
palm fronds.

I am also grateful to my teenage friends for helping with the Zobo
drink

Well, I wish you all safe journey and I pray you dont experience what
I suffered for this wedding.



Thank you.?[/b]

i think i was wrong to have answered you.

[b]For the sake of others like you and my friends like 4get me, i just want to answer your question. we don't all have to behave like fools

1. Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) led an examplary life. He did certain things to set a precedence as to what is allowed and what is not. When he married the 9 year old, he was making a point that marriage can be contracted as early as that age but nothing lower. However, there wont be any sexual liasons till the bride reach a matured age. It was suppose to be an option for some followers of Islam that may have a culture of early marriages. this is to make the religion attractive to them. its probably a strategy for winning those kind of people. Holy Prophet was never known to have slept with her at such an early age.

2. He was a remarkable man. he was never a peodophile.

3. In the history of islam in Nigeria, no marriage was ever contracted officially at that age.

4. Islam has a strong respect for womanhood, regardless of some wrong interpretations.

Having said all these, i would like to stress here that, in the issue of faith or any issue that we know little about, the best way to go about it is to seek for clarification. Where matters affect belief, the way to go about it is to say i don't believe in what you believe but not to say what you believe in is wrong. Lets respect our freedom of choices.[/b]

Hey, Whats wrong with Arsenal playing the final? No one has to like that, but some of us do

Its like we all agree with the description. Especially the gurls. they all seem to agree. I guess it was suppose to be a joke. But we all know those stuffs are everlasting

This sound like a great business idea. am sure it can be given a trial

There is only one B(ee) in Britain

But when are we gonna learn that other people doesnt have to think or behave like us? Will and jada got a life to lead. so be it.

u guys are fun to be with. Thanks to you all.

As eloquent as ever, 4get me, with due respect i rest my case.

We are both saying the same thing.

Regards.

4Get me, i actually wanted the arguement to die down naturally here. but i really need to clarify a thing or two. i also understand how hard you are trying to be nice to me your new friend. But when it comes to religious knowledge, we are more likely to see moslems with more understanding of christianity than christian with islamic knowledge. i am not sure if you had ever attended any islamic function but i tell you i have being to lot of christian programmes including church weddings. About Tolerance, i want to give you the quranic views about violence especially about churc burning that has always attracted criticisms.

"Those who have been expelled from their homes unjustly only because they said: "Our Lord is Allah." - For had it not been that Allah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the Name of Allah is mentioned much would surely have been pulled down. Verily, Allah will help those who help His (Cause). Truly, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty".
( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #40)

Any moslem that burn a church is not a good moslem. Our Holy Prophet once repeatedly said, "i swear he is not a believer "3 times. His disciples then asked him, who he was referring to. He said " Anyone that his neighbour is not free from his atrocities". Neighbour here include both moslems and non-moslems, colleagues at work, in schools, at home and everywhere else.

Indeed, there is a lot to say about Islamic spirit that it may need a new topic.

Owo, to start with, Zamfara state is the most peaceful state in nigeria. The Candidate is probably the most educated among the military oriented bunch. Yarima has also empowered more peasants and downtrodden masses than any governor in nigeria. He has so far proved to be the only governor that has managed to stay clear from controversy. You know, Owo, If you look at the options we have IBB, Buhari, Atiku and May be Marwa, you may probably understand why we dont need to recycle the usual thieves. or what do you think?

But do cute ladies really have to look like figure 8? cos i was wondering if both 0s need to be the same size or if the meeting point has to be that thin. u know, just wondering

i dont think they will ever understand. But Arsenal is just something else.