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Havila you are definitely not fair to Alhaji Olabowale. When he writes he address issues but when you reply its warfare, its insults and a bit of rudeness. you ve got to realise that we are here to socialise and make friends, share knowledge and create some understanding. No one reserve the exclusive right to name calling and harassment.

Its obvious knowledge and intellect is not evenly distributed and we can insist on having our way in all kinds of arguements. You always seem to believe that you are rights and we are refusing to understand but cant you for once accept the challenge of even crosschecking your facts. Bro. Olabowale is only suggesting that you make wider consultations in your islamic research. Just trace the trend in Arabia and the biographies of the companion but i cant understand what invited the personal attack. Like myself, i am only a scholar and i learn a lot from some of the learned brother's postings which i am sure some of you do not agree with. But the fact is with every posting there lies an opportunity for research and better understanding.

Case closed. Yarima has finally stepped down for Buhari. A very gentlemanly conduct. That is The Allah's will

Expensive mugu, what number did you give her in your own rating? i am sure she cant be number one

Can we talk about this topic again?. I ve decided to ignore your childish insults for once

angelz, Ameen wa Alaykissalam

Oh yeah, i never want to be the first guy to have notice it, but it seem like our dear david is truggling hard to deviate from the real topic here. Some Reverend noticed some clear contradictions in the so many different versions of the corrupted Bible and David and his boyz (Pataki et al) are trying to diffuse matters by ganging up against a poor little Igbo girl in an unneccessary issue of ethnicity and colour.

I respect the sister for using milder insultive words against your reckless and disgusting name calling. When next you recover from your hallucination just remember we are talking about some crazy contradictions here.

Zulu and Nubian no disrespect intended but you really corrupting this thread with ur personal dialogue. Am sure u can do that with IM on any of the messenger services or just exchange phone numbers. Here we are talking about our favourites verses of the Holy Book.

Rasul said "Min husni Islamin mar a Tarkuhu ma la ya a nihi"

For the goodness of a religion of a person its leaving that does not concern him

So here its all about this topic and nothing else

Kilo ko' ni Balaoni

There is nothing confusing here pataki but deliberate misrepresentation of the truth. There can only be One God and there is nothing like Him. I tell you on the day of judgement you shall answer to why you choose to call a human being God. Its even better if you dont believe in God than to join partners with God.

In case you dont want to call him Allah (SWT), give Him any name but pls let us accept the fact that He is One.

A study was conducted recently to determine the average crime rate at international airports around the world.

The study made use of an ordinary looking man standing in the airport terminal and reading a newspaper. He had an empty briefcase next to him, which he would ignore. Observers then recorded how long it took for the briefcase to be snatched.

In Brussels, Belgium the case was stolen within 4 minutes and 20 seconds.

In Washington DC it was stolen within 3 minutes and 16 seconds.

At Heathrow, London the briefcase was snatched in less than 2 minutes.

In New York, the case was stolen within 1 minute and 5 seconds.

In Los Angeles it took only 43 seconds before the case was snatched.

At Lagos, Nigeria, the people conducting the study were robbed on the way to the airport and the briefcase was stolen along with the car!

There you are David. Sharia is not a state Religion is a state legal system which is provided for in Nigerian constitution. Yet you can live your life fully conventional in Zamfara. You can drink your beer peacefully in zamfara, but they only sold them in certain restricted places under federal control like military barracks and officers mess. i was invited last week to my kid brothers party in the military base and what i saw there only remind me of lagos. Youth corpers are really having a swell time in my state. You can carry your wife or your girlfriend around the whole state and nobody blink an eyelid because you are not oblidged to obey the law.

Yes there was a referendum before the passing of the law and the 99% muslims population there unanimously approved the system.

So wetin concern u?

You should place more emphasis on openly than on the rest of the story. you are only trying to woo female sentiment here but in essence you are actually exposing the clumsy practice. we have had enough bashing about our women so you are practically saying nothing new. But i assured that our women are more decent and you cant catch them out urinating as described above.

For Hajj are the months well known. If any one undertakes that duty therein, Let there be no obscenity, nor wickedness, nor wrangling in the Hajj. And whatever good ye do, (be sure) Allah knoweth it. And take a provision (With you) for the journey, but the best of provisions is right conduct. So fear Me, o ye that are wise.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #197)

On no soul doth Allah Place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, and it suffers every ill that it earns. (Pray "Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden Like that which Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; Help us against those who stand against faith."
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #286)

The Evil one threatens you with poverty and bids you to conduct unseemly. Allah promiseth you His Forgiveness and bounties. And Allah careth for all and He knoweth all things.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #268)

Mariory you ve started with a good point but ended woefully. Indeed Sharia is a state law and its provided for in the Nigerian Constitution. All you can do is to say let them (states) enact whatever law they feel is good for them while we carry on our lives the conventional way. We in zamfara collectively chooses Sharia and we are ready to suffer the brunt. Please wish us well.

I wonder if you ever saw anyone using that sand anywhere in nigeria. But thanks for highlighting the wisdom of Islam by providing for a plan B in every concievable situation. Yes sand is tapped as alternative for ablution in extreme situations.

I dont think you fully agreed with me that poverty is not an exclusive preserved of the northern folks. But Insha Allah we shall soon take it to the museum in line with Mohammad Yunus of the Grameen Bank philosophy. While Aids campaign has also gone down to the grassroot gradually eliminating the risky behaviours.

Islam is basically about cleanliness and healthy practices if only you know

Transfer this to your christian thread TayoD. It doesnt work the same with Islam

Amen Mukina, and ours too

pataki i wasnt expecting any apologies from you not from someone like you sha.

Poverty everywhere is no respecter of religion and Aids and sanitation is a nigerian problem if only you know

@ mrpataki,

Dont descend to the levels of name calling. Why can any one here call anyone a great hypocrite? thats a big insult and i took it personal.

On the issue of hygiene, am sure you will agree with me there is a lot to learn from Islam. squatting and washing carefully with water is never compareable with the roadside doggy.

The use of traditional barbing, manicure and pedicure is only a cheaper alternative of the teeming masses. They would surely prefer to be in saunas than hang out in the sun with poorly sterilised tools.

Jazakallah Babs,

This is exactly what i was talking about. Lets talk to each other and lets do some homework. We the muslims strongly wish you can discover the truth one day that Jesus is NEVER God. He also has a God he looks forward to, and Christianity as a concept is wrong, but you Mrpataki, Babyosisi, Havila, Gbadex and co are bunch of nice people who only need to know the truth

@ mrpataki

You still dont get the point here. Tell us about the alternative and stop getting angry.

The point now is who looted which treasury here? Or are you already accusing Yarima with such deed? If thats the point here then luckily for you if you charge him at federal high court he is not going to get sharia law but infact he may get something very much more lenient to such crimes ala Tafa Balogun trial. Hand-over part of the loot and spent some few days in kuje, then come back and carry on.

There you go again gbadex, but you should know that am not the only muslim member of this forum and who knows may be your positive insights might just save some few souls (?) . I think just like we try to do on islamic issues you also owe us this particular clarification.

David, atleast its about something or probably everything including piss. Islam told us how to piss not like the mushrikuns standing on the road in full glare of everyone even some of your ladies just spread their legs openly to carelessly flush out urine like animals. Its quite unfortunate when morales are thrown to the dogs.

Its disappoiting to say the least how some of you respondent to this thread. If we carefully analyse all the previous topics they were more or less a direct attack on Islam and Muslims. We entertained some of your fears and replied your questions to the best of our abilities with all fairness. Just for once i now seek to understand the christians doctrine and all of a sudden you exposed you apparent vulnerability. looking so lost and confused waiting for someone to rescue you. It was a very simple trajectory, "In my opinion Christianity is wrong". we have Topics like Islam is terrorism, Islam or Muslims are bad and lot many. It doesnt look stupid to us because you are only saying your opinion and we gave you some cool replies.

To be frank with you i am now more convinced that you really are not sure of your faith. I know most of you are only christian because you inherited it without asking questions. At the age of 5 a muslim start Quranic and Arabic classes and at 10 you are fully matured enough to know what you dealing with. You start advance study in books like Qawaidussalat, Ahdari, Ishmawi, Qurdabi, Arrisalat, etc and by the time you get to 18, its pretty obvious you know the basic concept of your sojourn on earth. Our Holy Prophet majo emphasis is seek knowledge even if it takes you to China (using china as a reference).

Its time for all of us here to go back to the libraries and bookshops. we are only responsible for our lives and one day we shall surely give account

A mortician was working late one night. He examined
the body of Mr. Schwartz, about to be cremated, and
made a startling discovery. Schwartz had the largest
private part he had ever seen!

"I'm sorry Mr. Schwartz," the mortician commented, "I
can't allow you to be cremated with such an impressive
private part. It must be saved for posterity."

So, he removed it, stuffed it into his briefcase, and
took it home

"I have something to show you won't believe," he said
to his wife, opening his briefcase.

"M y God!" the wife exclaimed, "Schwartz is dead!"

what am beginning to realise here is that you guys just look at whats happenning in the middleeast and call it Islam. The terrorism in the Arab world is Islam, 911, 77, and political mayhem in the north or the Quranic verses revealed during the war times to explain the rules of engagements, that is what you conveniently considered as Islam. Unfortunately Islam is all about Peace only if you knew.

That finally nailed the coffin to your arrant ignorance about Islam. The Holy prophet Muhammad (SAW) who is the symbol of islam and the greatest role model ever has MOSTLY worn whites throughout his life and in a hadith has even recommended the wearing of whites. The colour we even bury our deaths are whites, the recommended dress to the masjids are whites.

There is nowhere in Islamic scriptures that black colour is recommended not even as you guys do during mourning periods. So go and learn more about Islam before you come back with your sketchy lies.

That was exactly my point fellow and i really cant say how softly i could have said it. But am not angry with the folks here am only going to sip through what replies i can get and see how beneficial it can be

oh that was nice speech mrpataki. if only i can get some responses like this we can have a more saner communication. You know i totally agree that Jesus is a wonderful guy and lived a wonderful life. He was a greatman with a strong messsage from God and i agree with his messages but i also have to worship that mighty being that sent Angel Gabrael to Virgin Mary with the great news of concieving a righteous son, name Jesus. Thats my only point. I know Jesus also answers to someone greater than him. Thats our Lord Almighty.

Dayokanu, i agree 100% about what Jesus said. He surely said all that and we muslims agree with him too because our Holy prophet also told us that. Do not agree with the nairaland fictitious version of Islam. We also love our neighbours and we dont kill our enemies.

They dont care about that, Josboy. the percentage is not appealng to them.

Thanks David for the Roman Catholic Version (abi King James') of my posting.