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deboysben:
what did he thief?

Here was what Gani Fawehinmi wrote concerning Atiku and Olesanjo:

I am appalled, because if not for the feud between him and Atiku we may never have known that Atiku was messing up with the Petroleum Technology Development Fund, PTDF. Obasanjo cannot say that he did not know that Atiku was stealing the PTDF, established in 1973, meant for the welfare of our country by training our brilliant students in the universities with the fund. A fund meant for the improvement of our petroleum technology, a fund meant to ensure that the sons and daughters of poor parents who have the intellect can engage in research work. But alas! this fund was used, not only to pay lawyers, but to establish just one company alone. Now, Atiku dipped his hand into it, Fasawe dipped his hand into it and Mr. President dipped his hand into it for personal reasons. We want to have the full story of PTDF and other agencies of government.

erico2k2:
You see, the one problem with Nigerians sorry to say is assumptions, and speaking about stuff they know next to nothing about, in the 1st i nstance, DO YOU KNOW WHERE I WORK?
2ndly tech eliminates corruption, Now assuming you know waht corruption is, if you dont I employ you to go back to Atiku's definition of corruptin cos that vast majority of young men on NL dont know hence the lebeld GEJ sill when he said corruption was not stealing,
Ghost workers is one of teh biggest form of corruption in our civil service, best way to reduce it Tech, waht tech, finger print scanners, and Iris scanner in teh case of Nigerians.The vast majorities of work place i n western countrie no longer use these kind of tech to check corruption rather for acces control,
Now intaraction btw humans an machines as a way to check corruption in developing nations ie Nigeria,
Imagine
the only way to Pay your taxes is via your debit card and to one single account, or you have one singe document as your vehicle papers and no need for police to ask you for any particulars cos as your number plate passes their car their ANPR will bring up all of your details? or a situation where you simply process all your import papers at home, you walk to the port collect your goods.
Personal Expirience, at the Mrs shop we give 5% cash back when you pay with debit card, since then revenue went up.
Imagine petrol stations where you sell yourself fuel, you insert your debit card and it debits you on howmuch fuel you disburse.I can go on and on about man machine intaraction.

Is money laundering not corruption?

But an increase in technology has made it even easier to launder money, according to a study I read recently.

Please, just remove tech out of your solution. Nigeria needs political reform and a change of mentality.

Man and machine interaction will do absolutely nothing for a country where the foundation of governance (pseudo federalism) is faulty.

If you become president and start thinking about all the idea you crammed into your post, you will end up achieving absolutely nothing in 4 years. Please, always be practical at all times.

This is Nigeria, a country grappling with pervasive corruption. You would be surprised that if you budget money for these techs, they would be embezzled right under your nose.

It is obvious you have totally underestimated the extent of corruption in Nigeria.

And it appears like you believe that Atiku has the answer to corruption in Nigeria. A man who is a beneficiary of corruption. Of course, he would know what corruption is. But unlike you, he knows that techs would be nothing but a waste of funds.

cutesmilez:
Let me educate some Zombies on how politics works!

Atiku don't need to win Kano state. He only needs atlist 40% of Kano's votes. That's all. As you know, Kano gave pmb above 1.9million votes in 2015 while PDP got less Dan 250 thousand votes from the region. Now going by kwankwanso's movement in Kano. I can categorically tell you that the APC votes in Kano will just be a little above PDP's Kano votes, that's if APC wins Kano in the first place.

Now let's take a look at Rivers state. The state is predominantly a PDP state. Rivers gave PDP 1.4 million votes in 2015, close to 1.5 million. While APC only got 69 thousand + votes in Rivers.

My point? Apc's strongest state is Kano, while PDP's strongest state is Rivers. Going by recent appenings, PDP will sure get above 25% votes in APC's strongest state which is Kano and APC don't stand a chance in Rivers (PDP's strongest state).... Which is already a win win for PDP. Kano will not produce as much votes it produced for APC in 2015, but Rivers will sure produce more Dan wat it delivered for PDP in 2015, this makes it a win win for PDP.

I rest my case! Politics is all about numbers, and getting more votes from ur opposition's strongest place.

Cry me a river.

You must be a zombie if you think Atiku can beat Buhari in any election.

4+4 = 2023

erico2k2:
At my work place do U know how we check people come to work on time and go home after time??
Do you know how you pay your Biz rate without speaking to no body?

I am sure you think your workplace is corruption-free abi You will be surprised that the same techs monitoring some set of workers is the same protecting some set of absentee workers.


My brother, hope you know that technology can aid corruption as well?

We don't need techs because these techs would be corrupted to only catch a set of corrupt people while ignoring other sets.

What we need in Nigeria is a change of mentality and a solid political reform.

Last week, a boy was telling some other boys (as they were returning from school) that he would be campaigning for the position of councilor immediately he graduates from secondary school. He said he would embezzle so much that his family and his generations would never go hungry. Sadly, this is the mentality of the average Nigerian. How do you introduce tech into a society whose average mentality is to enrich themselves whenever they get the chance to serve their country?

Even with the techs used widely by JAMB, corrupt officials still find a way around these techs to manipulate results. You will see a lawyer or doctor or engineer paying mercenaries to sit for exams for their children.

Which is more important and necessary: To correct this mentality that service to the country is a means to enrich one's generations or to invest in techs that would end up being manipulated by people with the terrible mentality that service means enrichment, embezzlement and nepotism?


The masses need a change of mentality. Our leaders come from among the people. They are a reflection of us. So, the masses need to understand the consequences of corruption. The mentality that If I get there, meself go chop the national cake should be demonized. The mentality is so pervasive that if you a civil servant who is honest, your colleagues would be laughing at you and calling you a fool.

We need education. And we need political reform. Our pseudo federalism encourages corruption. We need to go back to either the parliamentary system of government we practised between 1960 and 1966 or we adopt true federalism like the United States.

Technology may be needed later to help further reduce corruption. But for now, we need a change of mentality and a new political system.

NkayStory:
To fight corruption in an endemic country like Nigeria you build strong Instituitions that discourage corruption not strong Man!!..

Akinwumi Adesina the former Agric Minister was able to scrap out fertilizer crooks with the revolutionary system he put in place, which has been destroyed by buhari and his APC gang.by the way ..,That is just one small example of effectively stopping undesriables from polluting everywhere.

Without these strong Institutions you will be wasting your time 'pything kwaraption' because the farce we are seeing by your buhari/APC admin will play out..

Shield your friends to continue looting and hunt your"enemies" at the end of the day,corruption still thrives.

This thread is about Atiku. For a moment, try and leave Buhari out of it because it appears like he has become some sort of a benchmark.

Everything you wrote (aside your unnecessary mention of Buhari) is correct. I don't have any problem with that. My concern is how Atiku hopes to use tech to fight corruption in Nigeria. Even with certain techs, funds still go missing and find their ways into the pockets of some individuals at the expense of the general populace.

How do you build a strong institution when you have not had a political reform since 1999?

How do you eradicate corruption when nepotism is pervasive in the country?

These are questions that demand critical answers. But Atiku's only response is lame and shows his lack of will in that direction.

His position as a very corrupt politician is a surety that he would never be taken seriously in the fight against corruption. Gani Fawehinmi's expose on Atiku is enough lesson on why we should never vote for Atiku. He has nothing to offer.

As for Buhari, you say he is keeping his friends while attacking his enemies. I suppose you believe that Atiku would fight corruption differently abi?

You must think that Atiku (whose cronies from his years of channeling state revenues to personal effects) would fight his friends abi? I am just laughing at you people.

Because of obvious hate and in your desperation to be rid of Buhari, you think a man whose past is tainted with evidences of money laundering will fight corruption. Who would he fight? His cronies? You honestly think he would fight Obasanjo or Saraki?

The person I pity is Obi. Perchance they win, his image would be so damaged that his political career would be ruined forever.

No matter how bad you may think Buhari is, his international image as per being clean, remains the same. But Atiku is perceived differently, in a very negative way and with suspicion.

erico2k2:
The best way to tackle corruption is with technology.Plus please listen to how he plans to use Tech to fight corruption, you can rewind on line at dtv.media.He is talking of reducing the intarraction btw humans ans increase the intarraction btw humans and tech to reduce fraud, which works.

Smh...

So, an increase in the interaction between a human and tech will reduce corruption ordinarily?

Obviously, you can't simplify Atiku's idea because it is purely a lame and lazy idea.

You tried to communicate it to me but it was difficult, wasn't it? That is because it is a foolish idea that reeks of Atiku's lack of ideas. It also shows that he has no will nor zeal to fight corruption.

How do you fight corruption with techs in a third world country like Nigeria where corruption has become a way of life?

Even the introduction of techs would worsen the situation as it would encourage embezzlement of funds with the excuse of purchasing gadgets to fight corruption.

Fighting corruption with tech in Nigeria is like putting laptops before every student in a dilapidated school building. Why not rebuild the walls first and make the environment conducive enough before introducing laptops?

WNKQI:
Who implement it is not the subject matter here, Best way to fight corruption without creating tension every where in the nation. The tension created by so call fight against corruption has done more harm than good. It affected the external investors from coming. Atiku is saying with technology, you can actually tame corruption without making noise. Think Mr. Man

Botswana is the least corrupt country in Africa. This was not achieved with the use of technology.

You people let yourselves to be used to shout down the government's every effort to sanitize the country. The thieving politicians use you people as shields. When a PDP thief is arrested, instead of encouraging the government, you scream witch hunting.
You start asking "what about Tinubu, what about Amaechi?" instead of focusing on the accused. The government arrests someone because they believe he has abused his position and you all start screaming and distracting the government while encouraging other thieves to be brazen.

Naturally, a new government should probe the immediate past government. In this way, corruption would gradually be rid off. But, in Nigeria, it is the masses that are being used by thieving politicians to destabilize the fight against corrupt elements.

badcompany:
Your reason is very dumb and stupid. The school is his business, not government owned. So you want his university to be a free education, na father Christmas abi. Men of God never do there own free, na him. infinity sense is what you need.

Obasanjo and Atiku destroyed our public universities.

Read this:

Talking about education, the universities are dead now. And there are close to 50 private universities in Nigeria now. Two of them owned by General Obasanjo and one by his Vice President, ABTI University in Yola. So that, in education, what the government has done is to kill public interest, so as to make it lucrative for private institutions which are milking individuals.

https://saharareporters.com/2007/05/31/obasanjo-most-corrupt-nigerian-gani-fawehinmi

You call his university his business? The same university which alongside Obasanjo farm and university were run with state revenues while the two thieves were in power?

Anyway, Atiku is your choice but many well meaning Nigerians and myself will resist every attempt to bring back this looter called Atiku.

deboysben:
Atiku is ever ready for presidency with his plans to get Nigeria working again

Come like a thief is different from come as a thief.

You have directly accused the Bible of calling Jesus a thief when the Bible only said Jesus would come like a thief (unexpectedly).

timota:
the late buhari bowed before him 2015

Show us the evidence.

That is what he likes. When Jonathan came to beg him back then, he put his leg on the table and was feeling like God.

What he does not realize is that he is not God and can never be God.

Buhari will never bow before him. A victory for Buhari is political oblivion for Obasanjo, Sarathief and Adimeru.

I have read her post and I didn't see where she wrote that he had bad breath. Abi I missed something ni

She said she was disgusted but I didn't see where she wrote that he had bad breath.

naijapips02:
Buhari promised to declare his assets. Or does he did we Nigerians have as short a memory as his zombies?

I guess you were asleep when he and Osinbajo declared their assets in September, 2015.

If you say publicly, all fine. But constitutionally, Buhari's asset declaration has been vetted by the appropriate body, albeit unpublished by the declarers.

id911:
They said PDP is corrupt but PDP Presidents Umaru Yar'adua and Goodluck Jonathan declared both their assets and liabilities and are easily verifiable.

Where is Buhari assets and liabilities form?

Which Goodluck Jonathan declared his assets?

Yar'Adua forced him when he was VP. But as president, GEJ did not declare his assets.

Please, always remember this, not all Nigerians have short memories.

Wailers are hailing him now o. They have forgotten that this information is unverifiable and can get the idiot sued. If Buhari strikes now, they will start calling him a dictator.

And, this FFK is always fond of looking down on people. Let us even assume that Buhari is indeed the son of a duck seller, so what? What is wrong with being a duck seller? That was how he also abused Amaechi because Amaechi had a humble beginning.

The fact that FFK was lucky to be born to a lawyer who was well-to-do does not mean he should be demeaning humble beginnings.

An idiot whose only claim is his father's name should not be abusing people who toiled to be successful.

texazzpete:
Why would a ‘weak’ person be a participant in a sports tourney?

I guess it was the opening day. Anyone can feel weak at a particular time during a sporting competition.

There was an AFCON tourney when Adebayor missed the first half of Togo's first game due to diarrhea.

She might have traveled hale and hearty only to arrive sick or weak.

They should have put into consideration her complaint. Many footballers and sportsmen and women have lost their lives because they kept on pushing even when their bodies were tired.

Remember Foe of Cameroon. The coach noticed his tiredness as the game progressed and decided to substitute him but for reasons best known to Foe, he refused and ended up losing his life.

Factfinder1:
If Buhari had been President in 1999 when Obasanjo came in,you will not have that smart Phone/Network to Abuse Obasanjo online


Zoom to see the empty seats and the anger on buharis Face

Ignorance. Tell me one country where mobile telephony has not penetrated?

You people talk as if it was Obasanjo that invented mobile phones for Nigeria.

No wonder one idiot thought that GEJ brought Facebook to Nigeria.

That is how pathetically gullible some Nigerians like you are.

OrientDailyNews:
https://orientdailynews.com.ng/life-style/education/college-education-student-expelled-over/

https://orientdailynews.com.ng/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/ban-300x158.jpg

Was she expelled from the college or from a sport competition?

Whichever one, I think they should have considered her excuse. She said she was weak.

9jaRealist:
You can contract HIV in a monogamous relationship, marriage or even with only one sexual encounter.

That is the fact.

E2000:
Every Stupid fool is looking for cheap popularity to perhaps bag an endowment from rich company.

You are calling a professor and an award-winning writer a fool looking for cheap popularity simply because his opinion differ from yours on a matter? It is all fine if you don't agree with him. He is entitled to his opinion.

mozona:
for health reason, biblical and spiritual wise, he is wrong.

totally wrong in all aspect.

The Bible did not explicitly condemn polygamy.

However, I agree with you that polygamy is not healthy.

logon599:
Another troll on the loose. He actually looks like he could play the role of a mentally deranged person in a low budget movie

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The guy is a professor. He likes to speak his mind, not minding whose ox is gored.

wilsonchilboy:
Mad man Oya tell ur wife make she cum straff me na

He is not married o.

Yuceeluv:
Was born in Kaduna.

Was born in Kebbi. But I didn't grow up there well enough to understand Hausa. However, while I was serving, I had a Northern friend who was always saying "gamu"

Nice to meet you.

Damn

I can't even fight a fellow man and leave his face like this (supposing I am able to beat him, because I no sabi fight).

How do men manage to disfigure women's faces? Yes, even if she cheated or runs her mouth, how do you mess a woman's face up this way I can't understand.

Do they punch like Anthony Joshua? (I mean do they punch to knock a woman out?) or do they, for those minutes, imagine that they were fighting a fellow man?

tegrianonigltd:
Just normal lies from apc, they are all fools, all of them, all of them.. pdp all of them, all the leaders.. stop supporting one to leave one

OK, I understand your anger now.

You were particular with APC because they are the ones who presently hold power. But, since Nigeria has a two-party system (multiparty system is nothing but a fraud), we can only vote for one of the two big parties (APC and PDP). Do we have any choice?

tegrianonigltd:
Then learn how to read and understand, sorry I can’t explain if you can’t read properly.

This is what I don't like. People trying to insult my intelligence.

Here was the opening paragraph of your post:

You are the gullible one I guess.. you know nothing about an economy, just normal routine lies from APC. Jonathan this, Jonathan that, if truly money were stolen, jail them, if by now you don’t know apc lied then I think you will never grow in life, jail them, show us paper work they stole, when Ngozi replied the short man oshomole with factand figure he shut up till today. If corrupt why not jail her.. ride on propaganda still want to ride on it again.

Please, explain why you went on a rant concerning APC for a court case that goes beyond a change of government? You used a lengthy paragraph to demonize APC for a court case that precedes APC.

In case you don't know, you used a lengthy paragraph to rant without discussing the OP.

Your replies reek of arrogant ignorance. And rather than keep mute, you are attempting to insult my intelligence with ridiculous excuses.

tegrianonigltd:
I am castigating all of them, all apc pdp, is apc not same leaders from the different old parties, same people different name, Amaechi as at 2013 was still pdp, etc, so they are so fools we the masses still support them, shame on us, we have the power to change things but the rate of illiterates is more than us. So we have to live like that till illiteratecy vanishes.

In your first post, you claimed that it was all an APC lie.

You called a case that precedes APC a lie concocted by APC.

How can you explain that?