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ogoamaka99: @ frosbel,
I mean no offence nor intention to slander your charater wrongly. So don't take it personal, however you will agree with me that more than 85% of the articles credited to your name are copied. Sit down and construct articles if you have knowldge of what you are saying. I strongly believe that when your eyes are opened you will realize all the falsehood you are posting.

Image123: there is woe for anyone who neglects the important things, and for all who subtract or cut off the Word of God. why did you cut that verse to suit your taste?

italo: Do you show great respect and devotion to your mother, father, wife, church?



Do your regard your mother, father with honour?



This is your opinion. I will believe it if you can show me where the Bible says that.



Then why is he receiving the prayers of Saints in Rev 5:8? And why did the Israelites have to receive healing from our God by looking at a bronze snake?



"If there are saints..." So you don't know whether there are saints or not. Then how can you know what saints do when you are not even sure if they exist or not? If you don't know something, can't you be quiet and learn from those who know? Must you talk?...especially when you don't know what you are talking about...

Please answer my questions.

Joagbaje: Giving to the poor existed under the law, so why don't you assume it's wrong now in the new testament?

Joagbaje: But did it originate in the law? NO. So the emergence and exit of the law has no relevance. The order of Melchizedek is forever. As long as there's a highpriest ,there will be tithing and offerings. You can't separate the two. They per existed the law.

Zikkyy: "[size=14pt]Yes, woe upon you[/size], Pharisees ([size=4pt]joagbaje[/size] ), and you other religious leaders-- hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden......"

Joagbaje are you saying anytime you read the quote above, you truly feel that it describes you? that Jesus was talking to you?

I know image123 considers himself a pharisee, the reason he's glued to Mathew 23:23

The message in Mathew 23:23 was for Scribes & Pharisees (hypocrites ), if you believe you belong to the category listed, you can continue to tithe

Boomark: 1 Is tithe a law in Israel?
2 Is priesthood a law in Israel?

Answer the questions well and correct you self.

The exodus 19:6 you quoted became fulfilled when the new covenant came to be. 1peter2:9

Joagbaje: Matthew 23:23. (Living bible)
"Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders-- hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things-- justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.

Most religious men value Jesus words more than epistles . But they seem to turn blind eyes to this . Jesus said. We should tithe . Nobody in the bible ever said otherwise . Not even God.

Joagbaje: Tithing didnt originate in the law. Melchizedek order was higher in rank than levitical order . Christ is in continuation of Melchizedek order. Levitical order was for jews . Melchizedek was not for jews. Jesus is high priest in order of Melchizedek . This is simple enough. Tithing as a principle existed before the law. Likewise offering and some other spiritual principles . The law was only an interruption , the abolishing of the law does not negate principles which existed before the law. If that's the case , we should do away with offerings ,prayers, etc



God has always seen his people as priests . It's not a new testament thing . The new testament is based on old testament principles.

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.



Men came up with that theory out of their greed or ignorance. There's no reference to such in scripture. Jesus spoke against sabbath and other things , but tithes was never spoken against . But rather endorsed by Jesus



I have

Joagbaje: Tithing didnt originate in the law. Melchizedek order was higher in rank than levitical order . Christ is in continuation of Melchizedek order. Levitical order was for jews . Melchizedek was not for jews. Jesus is high priest in order of Melchizedek . This is simple enough. Tithing as a principle existed before the law. Likewise offering and some other spiritual principles . The law was only an interruption , the abolishing of the law does not negate principles which existed before the law. If that's the case , we should do away with offerings ,prayers, etc

God has always seen his people as priests . It's not a new testament thing . The new testament is based on old testament principles.

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

I want to know if:
1 Tithing is a law in Israel?
2 Priesthood is a law in Israel?

The Ex 19:6 you quoted used shall be priests, even Isa 61:6 used shall or will be.
1Peter2:9 is where it shows it has been fulfilled. It reads 'you are...'


Men came up with that theory out of their greed or ignorance. There's no reference to such in scripture. Jesus spoke against sabbath and other things , but tithes was never spoken against . But rather endorsed by Jesus



I have

italo: When you say "worship" and "reverence", what do you mean?

Ubenedictus: hahaha, now i must laugh in greek, frosbel u are too superstitious that is ur problem, if ur kid draws a triangle u will rebuke him because that is illuminati and if he draws d 4 cardinal point u will scream babylonian mystery!!! Oh lord how i love u!!! If i wrote comic books i would write one on frosbel.

Ubenedictus: i have warned u abt ur silly questions bt u wont learn, did italo deny that christ Jesus is our mediator? Pleas u nid to improve.

Joagbaje: This is not about what a pastor say. But rather what the bible says . There was never a place where God put an end to tithing . Tithes and offering are for ever .
But The myth I set out the debunk here is the idea that men never gave money as tithe . And I have proven that wrong. Giving of money as tithe is not today affair. I only cited here one of the many reason men gave money in tithes or offerings.

italo: If Jesus were not enou gh, we
wouldn't ask the living Saints to
pray to him for us.

Ubenedictus: hahahaha, one reason y nobody shuld take u serious.

berem: T.A Orji,ihere megbu o gi! WTF is he still doing in government house? They should have longed kicked his passive a$$ out of office.The man no try at all! Aba people sef no send.odikwa egwu!

bbpreye.:
What do u think?

Is it by going to church?
Is it by helping the needy?
Is it by paying tithes and offerings?
Is it by attending a particular church?

How do you serve your God?

truthislight: na way for you o!

Dont you know that a slave should be in fear/respect its master?

God4moi: I must say this is the first real question you're asking.

I'll make your answer really simple. Who command you to bless water to use for healing or other activities? Who gave you the command to wear your religion crested tee, hand band, lapel... Who commanded you/religious leaders to use their photos to advertise the religion are these all in you version(s) of the bible?

Now don't you go saying but we don't bow to them. Huh! Huh! You revere them enough to wear them and paste it in your homes, on ur vehicles...

So I smell idolatry?! Hmm.

God4moi: Please. I'm interested in the bible quotes where it was specifically stated o! Me I want to learn.

Hmm. So if I say I don't share your opinion of something it means I'm apologetic to that thing? Ah! What if the Pope believes the Devil is worse than evil. That directly means he's apologising to the devil? This is serious!

God4moi: They didn't hang it, but they made references to it. The cross, death, and ressurection didn't they?

Hmm that reminds me. Putting a snake on the pole for isrealities to look up to for healing of snake bites in the desert too must have been idolatry ordained by God abi. Cos that statue must definitely be demonic. Hmm.

Smh. Igonoramus!

italo: Haven't you noticed that I have been avoiding direct conversations with you? I am doing so because anytime we talk, you don't make sense to me and I always end up using very harsh words.

Why don't you let me talk to people who I feel are worth discussing with.

Please help me so that I won't have to insult you. I am trying to safeguard my soul.

Thank you.

italo: I can't believe what I am seeing!

So if I call you a bastard, it is up to YOU to prove it that you are not a bastard, not me to prove that you are. And if you cannot prove that you are not a bastard, it is true that you are. Are you serious. You anti-Catholics have no limit to how low you can go, do you?

Okay you are a bastard. Prove to me that you are not. If you cannot, it true that you are a bastard.

italo: Perhaps you should check out 1 Cor 1:23. Paul says, "...but we preach Christ crucified..." Why does Paul preach Christ crucified? Doesn't he know Jesus has been raised from the dead? Of course he does! But, he knows that it is through the power of the crucified Christ on the cross that the bonds of sin and death are broken. As Paul says in verse 24, Christ crucified is the "power of God".
1 Cor 2:2, "For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified." Again, didn't Paul know that Jesus had risen from the dead? Of course, he did.

Paul preaches Christ crucified because an empty cross has no power. The cross that bears the beaten, battered, and bloodied body of Jesus Christ, however, that cross is the "power of God". This is why, we "keep Jesus on the cross," because we, too, preach Christ crucified. The Crucifix reminds us not only of God's power, but also His love for us - giving His only begotten Son up for suffering and death.

Also, here in this life we do not share so much in the glory of the Resurrection, as we do in the suffering of Jesus on the cross; after all, we must take up our cross daily if we are to follow Jesus, as it says in Lk 9:23.

And, we must die with Christ in order to live with Him as Romans 6:8 tells us. Where did Christ die? On the cross. The Crucifix serves to remind us of these things.

One other passage to keep in mind is Galatians 3:1, "O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?" Did you catch that? Jesus was publicly portrayed, before their "eyes", as being crucified. Sounds kind of like they may have been looking at a Crucifix, doesn't it?

From biblechristiansociety.com

italo: I remember you from the other thread wher they lied that the Pope apologized to satan. You were pretending that you were neutral and objective. You said I should just tell you if it is true or not (as if you were really interested in the truth). I remember telling you to read the whole statement on the link that made the allegation. You haven't told me if you have read the link or not, and what conclusions you have been able to draw. Perhaps because you have seen that that one is a lie, you kept quiet about it. Because it is not a weapon you can use to beat The Catholic Church. Now you are here again pretending to look for explanation and clarification.