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italo: @ Boomark,

What do you mean by "Jesus or Communion?"

I thought Jesus is Communion and Communion is Jesus.

I didn't see you arguing against the one who referred to Jesus as wafer and compared him to agege bread.

Are you really fighting for Christ?

'Father, you
dropped Jesus on the floor.' He
got this blank look on his face,
just stunned, and I said, 'May I
have the privilege of rescuing
Our
Lord from the floor?' and he
said,
'Yes, of course.'
"And so I went up to the
sanctuary area, leaned over, and
picked Jesus up off the floor,

Can you pick Jesus on the floor in any which ever form?

This is one the ways catholics ridicule Christianity. Answer me.

Ubenedictus: bowing to an image we learnt from joshua as 4 prayer bead it developed just d way scriptures did.

Whose image are you bowing to?

How did the scriptures develop? From thin air.

ijawkid: @UBE...

Oh I forgot...

You will have to start telling us wether the ""revelations"" Jesus received from His Father to give to the angel,that later conveyed it to John were given before mary gave birth to Jesus or after. Jesus' return to heaven....

You go interprete scripture today belleful.......

And Rev 1:1 say "...things that must shortly take place."

sorry o, you should have read you bible before you start.

Hail Mary full of grace...amen.
Hail Mary full of grace...amen.
Hail Mary full of grace...amen.
Hail Mary full of grace...amen.
Hail Mary full of grace...amen.
Hail Mary full of grace...amen.

O baal, hear us!
O baal, hear us!
O baal, hear us!
O baal, hear us!

This is what is called vain repetition. Catholics should change from their pagan ways and turn to Christ.

Ubenedictus: hahaha, and praise isnt prayer?? Now i know u are incapable of the truth. It is a waste of time to discuss with you.

And catholics are capable of abiding in pagan truth. Go and learn from the model of prayer-our lords prayers.

Mr_Anony: It depends on how you define "alive"

I haven't got much time to go in depth into scripture so I'll assume that you are quite conversant with it and just go ahead and shoot.

...As I said, it depends on how you define "alive". compare how in Genesis, God told Adam that the day he ate the fruit he would die, also consider how Jesus refers to sinners as dead i.e. "let the dead bury the dead". Next, consider that the state of being in the lake of fire is called the second death.

So what does the bible mean when it talks about death?

I'll suggest to you that death means separation. Physical death being the separation of the body and soul while spiritual death being separation from God. The second death is simply eternal separation from God, thrown out of the city of God into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Another thing I will implore you to do is to prayerfully read Ezekiel chapter 26, 27, and 28. and equally read Revelations chapters 19, 20, and 21. These should help you put those verses in context.

Cheers

I don't know how else "alive" will mean being alive and gnashing teeth.

Death is death and opposite of being alive. If one dies in the physical, he cease to exist physically. The meaning of the word "death" will not change when it comes to the spiritual context. God said satan will be burnt to ashes and will be no more forever(cease to exist forever).

The same proclamation was made about the city of Tyre in Eze 26:21

New International Version
(©1984)
I will bring you to a
horrible end and you will
be no more. You will be
sought, but you will never
again be found, declares
the Sovereign LORD."

The city of tyre no longer exist. Which mean that God was specific when He said satan will be no more forever.

As you can see there is no other meaning to Eze 28:18-19. So whatever you have to say about Rev 20:10(lake of fire=second death) must be in tandem with what is written in Ezekiel, else they will become contradictory.

Ihedinobi: lol. Lord! but this is pure gold. Did you just declare a belief that Scriptures are contradictory? You didn't have to prove me right, you know.

You should know me better. That gold can burn your hand if you touch it. So don't touch!

italo: I have a feeling Boomark is just trying to make us laugh.

As for me -ve decided to just read his posts and laugh...as I'd do at a comedy show.

So can you define PRAYER for us...

So that we can know what it is.

what did Christ say prayer is and how did he teach you to do it?

Ubenedictus: open ur bible to rev, u will find them doing their "holy,holy holy" yet u are telling me that any repetition is pagan.

Did it say the angels prayed "holy holy holy?"

Ubenedictus: even in d lords prayer there is 'prayer of praise" there. What is "hallowed b thy name" if it isnt praise? So in ur village praise isnt a type of prayer?

Have you heard some thing like this before "every water is liquid but not every liquid is water." I want you to start thinking like that atimes.

Go back to chemistry and learn separation techniques. Then you can now tell which one is prayer and which one is praise.

Where are the pharisees?

Those that choose to obey divinely approved authorities and disobey Christ.

Our president will asked you to kill for him and you will do it because he has divine approval.

DO VIOLENCE TO NO MAN.
This is where it ends. And the big answer is NO.

chukwudi44: No wonder you are yarning thrash since you reason with your bombom.

By the way are you implying they should have left the communion on the floor

My bombom seems to be reasoning more than your brain.

According to the bolded, what or who are they picking from the floor? Jesus or communion?

I hope your brain will not start telling you to say the body of Christ? Use the bolded in my post above according to what they called it.

chukwudi44: So what about it? The wafer that was now the body and blood of christ fell on the floor and he picked it up so what's the fuss all about

And this is where you confirmed it was right to say that.

At the cathedral in Venice,
Florida,
Dr. Rice says that the pastor
dropped a Host without
knowing
it, as he was administering
Communion to one of the
servers.
It fell out of the ciborium
without
his noticing it. "So when Anita
and I went up to receive
Communion, I leaned over to
the
priest and said, 'Father, you
dropped Jesus on the floor.' He
got this blank look on his face,
just stunned, and I said, 'May I
have the privilege of rescuing
Our
Lord from the floor?' and he
said,
'Yes, of course.'
"And so I went up to the
sanctuary area, leaned over, and
picked Jesus up off the floor,
then
went back down around the
front
of the altar and bowed before
the
altar and consumed the
Eucharist.
I went back to my seat and sat
down and then knelt forward.

My bombom told me that picking Jesus from the floor, rescuing our lord from the floor is an insult from a convert and his catholic priest. You can't cover it from my eyes.

I don't know if your bombom is used for going to toilet alone. Mine thinks and my brain is used for complex thinking.

Mr_Anony: Lol, no they are not.

Tell me how.
One said he will be burnt to ashes and be no more forever while the other said he will be thrown into the lake of fire where he will be alive and tormented forever.

chukwudi44: People who go to church once in months and read their bible once a year how will they learn?
What you call orninary bread wafer does not remain ordinary after it has been blessed by the priest but rather becomes the body and blood of christ.

St paul explains further in 1 cor 11:20-30

1 Corinthians 11:20-30

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

20 Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper, 21 for in your eating each one takes his own supper first; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? In this I will not praise you.

The Lord’s Supper

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. 30 For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number [a]sleep.

All these quotes are not necessary.
What you agreed to was that it becomes Jesus from the issue of picking Jesus on the floor.

You find it difficult to simply say it is wrong. The more you try to cover it the more it opens.

Ubenedictus: my bibo shows me that d angel repeat a prayer continously, am happy to pray like them. If u want to sed paganism in every thing u shuld convict Jesus, he repeated one prayer 3x

Where did angels repeat a prayer continuously? I want to learn.

He repeated it a prayer 3x in a space how many seconds for how minutes. He went further and prayed again. Didn't you see that.
Do you know what it means to pray without ceasing? Why not claim that its what you guys.

Am sure He knows why He called them heathen, of which you can't exonerate catholics from no matter how hard you try. They worst is that the vain repetition is even a prayer to Mary.

Ubenedictus: so in ur village praise is not a type of prayer? Pls just try to b honest 4 once

Do you know how to pray?

Go and read our Lords prayer. You can find it in mt 6:9-13.

italo: My brother, since you admit that the wafer bocomes Jesus, I don't see any further reason for argument. Jesus is Jesus. I think you should rather spend your energy fighting against those who call Jesus "wafer", "biscuit", "bread" etc, rather than he who calls Jesus "Jesus!"

...And I suspect, many of them are your friends.

At the cathedral in Venice,
Florida,
Dr. Rice says that the pastor
dropped a Host without
knowing
it, as he was administering
Communion to one of the
servers.
It fell out of the ciborium
without
his noticing it. "So when Anita
and I went up to receive
Communion, I leaned over to
the
priest and said, 'Father, you
dropped Jesus on the floor.' He
got this blank look on his face,
just stunned, and I said, 'May I
have the privilege of rescuing
Our
Lord from the floor?' and he
said,
'Yes, of course.'
"And so I went up to the
sanctuary area, leaned over, and
picked Jesus up off the floor,
then
went back down around the
front
of the altar and bowed before
the
altar and consumed the
Eucharist.
I went back to my seat and sat
down and then knelt forward.

Did you read this. It was a convo between a father and his convert. Chukwudi a catholic confirmed it is right.

So do you want me to still fight the 3 of them?

Ubenedictus: hahaha, it seems u are at a loss of words so u posted d rubish above.

Some English words are sweet when you are practicing them. Debunking and rebuttal are two of them.

Even after judgement, you don't know if he(Christ) will still be a subject and also equal to his God who will be all in all. All you know is that he sits at the right hand of the Father. Am glad you even know that one.

teeo: Your questions dont add up. Pls think of something better. If u think if he shares all of his God given wealth the poor would end, then think again. There would always be poor people in the world, the question should be do you want to be part of the poor.

Since there will always be poor people in the world, that why he can't be so liberal with his wealth.

A man of God acquiring more Jets and storing up wealth on earth for who? Since there will always be poor people around, let the wealth storage continue.

One day baal will also be a heavenly name to some people.

chukwudi44: So what about it? The wafer that was now the body and blood of christ fell on the floor and he picked it up so what's the fuss all about

So since the wafer is now Jesus, anybody can say put the remaining Jesus in side waterproof, see Jesus inside stainless plate, pick him on the floor.

My brother, don't you think using the body OF Christ is better? This is a kind of insult but you don't know.

Mr_Anony: Hahahahaha......It is so funny when folks just throw verses about.
(Usually I don't argue like this but it appears that it is the only way you can understand)

Well, since we are throwing verses today, here's one for you.

Revelations 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

This a prophesy of what must happen to satan.

He shall be thrown into the lake of fire and shall be TORMENTED FOREVER.

If you don't believe this prophesy from God, it means you are forming your own belief.

Do you know that Eze 28:17-19 and Rev 20:10 are contradictory?

teeo: And your prayer is for him to be poor.

That's one of the questions we are talking about.

Let me increase the jets to 100jets while a lot of people in his congregation remained poor. Ask me another one.

Logicboy03: Dont you just feel the love of christians? Making fun of someone's depression?

Am sorry o.
I didn't know it was that serious.

teeo: And u think u have made sense, pls delete that gibberish and say something meaningful

He made a lots of sense. Just because it is 3 jets doesn't mean it can't be 20 jets tomorrow.

And you will come here to asked us if we want him to start trekking. Or if whether we want him to live as a pauper.

At the cathedral in Venice, Florida,
Dr. Rice says that the pastor
dropped a Host without knowing
it, as he was administering
Communion to one of the servers.
It fell out of the ciborium without
his noticing it. "So when Anita
and I went up to receive
Communion, I leaned over to the
priest and said, 'Father, you
dropped Jesus on the floor.' He
got this blank look on his face,
just stunned, and I said, 'May I
have the privilege of rescuing Our
Lord from the floor?' and he said,
'Yes, of course.'
"And so I went up to the
sanctuary area, leaned over, and
picked Jesus up off the floor, then
went back down around the front
of the altar and bowed before the
altar and consumed the Eucharist.
I went back to my seat and sat
down and then knelt forward.

Was i in haste when i missed this one.

Wonderings shall never end.

I no see suicide for that article or did i miss it.

logicboy told us it became part of him- contemplating it.

We should always pray for them and show them love.

ogoamaka99: @pastor kun,
The world is in trouble if Oyedepo preaches poison. This is because Oyedepo and winners chapel had taken over the nations not only Nigeria. BUT FOR YOU, DO YOU KNOW THAT IT IS A PERSON WHO HAS LOST A SENSE OF REASONING THAT CAN BE ARGUING THAT IT IS RAINING WHILE THE SUN IS SHINING?

ogoamaka sef!

^^Listen to your pastor...kun.

Joagbaje self, didn't you understand or see anything from staggerman's post. Read Eze 28:13-15. Stop at v15. Didn't you see he was in Eden and was perfect until iniquity was found in him. At that point he became satan.

@ staggerman.
Lucifer became satan in v15. When sin was found in him. We did not make him satan.

Your article made me see more loop holes in trinity doctrine. Of course Christ did not make a mistake when He said 'our God is one.'