@DBlock

Most rappers in the US these days are simply people from the Ghetto or Suburbia looking for a way to earn a living. Most of them aren't the "Gangsters" they portray themselves to be, and those that are over exaggerate the issues they go through.

The truth is HipHop and Rap today in the states is whack. The days of MCs are over.

Man, I would agree with you because i realized most of what you listen to and call HipHop are nothing but the derailed ones, If you look at what hiphop stands for you would realize that you've not been listening to the right hiphop. When you listen to more of HipHop, you would meet the real HipHop. The days of Mcs are not over and hiphop is not of Whack. I don't know of R and B. if you want me to list positive rappers and real mcs i will.

@FSU

You mean an English Language undergrad wrote this up there? Do you follow the English course in Arabic?

No Sir.

Thank you so much for your corrections. I don't know exactly what to say to you but let me just drop some notes. I believe this is an informal cotext and that was so visible in everything i wrote. Besides that, I don't know you and i don't know your discipline, so my words are limited. But i'll tell you to go ask your lecturer, if you're a lecturer, go and ask a Ph.D holder in your school's languages department , and If you are a Ph.D holder, go and ask a Professor that What is the real basis of studying any language course in the university? The answer he/she will give you is not far from these words: Studying any language course in the University is more of analysis than any other thing. If you really want to speak and understand a language fluently, you go to the Country where it is spoken, don't ask me why, because the answer is straight from the FOUR LANGUAGE ACQUISITION SKILLS.

If you think you've done justice to what i've written, i'll tell you something; there is more to correct in there.

Who knows, maybe u study English too, let's bring up a thread and go into an academic battle if you dare. I don't care if you are a graduate.

Once again thank you for your corrections

@donaky 01
you also asked for the VC's website: www.musbauakanji.com

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Like this Topic, "Can a Bird and A fish fall in love?" lets check it intellectually. There are lots of things they dont have in common, Fish has no wings, but fins. Bird has feathers while fish has scales.
Now, these are real differences which if we check very well, one looks like subsitute for the other, so if we all agree that Love cuts beyond reasonable limits, then they can still look at each other as "almost" the same,

The main difference is Water and Air? If they undastand in sum other ways that they are almost the same, then they would work sumtin out? Like the Fish coming to the River bank where there are sill sum kind of water to safeguard it while the bird can kin of stay there, I think there should be a lil connection between them there,

Maybe av not made any sense?

I don't even know wetin bouzymill standsfor but if na word, e no make am for dictionary

looking for bouzymill in the dictionary!!! you must have searched for JayZ, 2pac in the dictionary, "Its good to be educated"

Saucekid, remember u're like a god to sum young derailed minds like yours, why don't you just keep reading the posts and keep shut instead of fooling yourself around AfricanHipHop, Nairaland and all other forum, You don't even behave like a "STAR"

on a second thought

its good you're visiting these forums. This would allow you to know that u don't have a future yet in HipHop, u don't even have marketers to market your mixtape, that's why u doin self marketing, o ga oooooooooo. its Naija for real

your swears are like evidence of the present condition of your family, Nitwit.

am out of this thread

@Ritchboi
i believe you get my point now, Instead of dropping shits on me anyhow, We all got to learn,

@Skingo

skingo:

wtf is an debate

I think the guy is rite, You really need to go take Some English lessons. Because A and N are not beside each other on the keyboard which shows that's not a mistake, and nonetheless, if it was, you would have modified it. That aside

SauceKid, because i know thats who you are, Get back to your guyz and try to make sumtin meaningful out of tha studio - we'll buy your CD, if it worth it which i don't think it will, cos you really don't have anything besides SAMBORIBOBO in your head. I watched your Soundcity Star Host where you said you started music feb. 2005 or there about, if i'm sure. Man, you know nothing about HIPHOP besides the dirty south Idiots you watch on BET, Go get a life, Mode9, Terry, O.D, Ruggedman have been doin the shit when you were shitting in your pants, before you started watching TV

AND IF YOU ARE NOT SAUCEKID, THEN GO, DELIVER MY MESSAGE TO HIM. COS YOU SHOULD BE HIS MESSANGER - you know Fronzworth Bentley, the job he does for P-Diddy,

@45
omo, the collections you told me about, are there soul music there, man, i wan sample, try send Rez demo, with one of them wreckx n effect,

@all
I guess we should move to a new topic,

@eldee
that's part of poetic licence am explaining, you are making forum to rhyme with room, so that forum would sound like [forum]. Shakespeare did the same with love and move in one of his sonnets. Maybe sonnet 29 or 116, i've forgotten,

Poets are free to do anything. Only if your guy ritchboi will understand

@eldee

I'm not sure but I think rappers are given a little poetic liscence to lyrically use what will otherwise sound stupid.

i am not talking bout rappers alone, Am talking English Literature.

@ritchboi

if u put it that way den there is no such tin as wrong or bad english.
I O W ,u can jus say incoherent crap under d guise of hyperbole,oxymoron,personification bla bla bla.

Guy, am talking bout Literature, this is not my discretion, that's what it is. Here's a link from Wikipedia for you

poetic license (licentia poetica), refers to the ability of a poet to ignore some of the minor requirements of grammar for poetic effect. For example, Mark Antony's "Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears" from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar would technically require the word "and" before "countrymen", but the conjunction "and" is omitted to preserve the rhythm of iambic pentameter. Conversely, on the next line, the end of "I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him" has an extra syllable because omitting the word "him" would make the sentence unclear, but adding a syllable at the end would not disrupt the meter. Both of these are examples of poetic license. from Wikipedia

you can read more from this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetic_license

I just want both of us to learn, anywayz

I think am trying to make you understand,

i run through the track like a trembling train - Papoose

Papoose, you aint never heard a name that cool
Spittin sixteen bars I'ma change that rule
Somebody with no bars musta made that rule
The industry owe me a lot, this a payback move
Ride the track like a Maybach, smooth - Papoose

Listen to the ocean and the stars, keep my vision in motion
In motion like cars
I'm down to Earth, at times I feel closer to Mars - Common, God of Sun

@ritchboi

your stupidity knows no bounds.i gues your so DUMB u don't c anytin wrong in 'DRY RIVER'.perhaps u should go bak 2 primary school.how can a RIVER b DRY?Den how is it a RIVER?How FOOLISH can 1 b.i'm beginin 2 question d soundness of your mind.
your just another 1 of d numerous hip hop head wana-be's who keep popin up.a graphical representation of your brain would b an ANTS ASS. . . . . because that is how smal it is

Man, let's be civil and don't let all this get to our veins. let us explain things to each other like we are supposed to; understand.let us quickly swerve into literature, I stand to be corrected, you are allowed to use words anyhow in poetry, this is why we have various figures of speech to represent these uses of words. if this term, "dry river" was found as part of a line in a poem, it is a literary device called "oxymoron" which means Conjoining contradictory terms[/b]for example, "deafening silence". As we all agree rap is a form of poetry, it encompasses all forms of poetry. And remember, you don't really look at the dictionary meaning of words in a string of utterance but rather the meaning they speak to you, that's poetry. bottom line is that, "dry river" is an oxymoron. This is how i think i can explain.

[b]@wordsmith
From your lines i've seen, there is nothin that sounds naijalike and i think your accent will neva help the ["naijahiphop" God knows where this name comes from] fans. Judgin from your lines i repeat.

i still don't understand what you guys are saying when you say modenine raps like American, a lot of guys rap in English now, even rugged spit lots of English now, Overdose, Terry Tha Rapman, Gino, Sanchez, anyone you could think of except Ajasa. The point is, whateva reference you make in your lines should come from your society and i think Modenine does that a lot of times like "2 all my halers take 5, Iyawon", brief reference to the cullture of the igbos as per burial rites in "Cry", "I cause more harms than drugs with no nafdac number", "see them wack mcs and tell them Waka". Waka, Nafdac number, mourn in bald head, herbalists and so on don't exist in the U.S, they are all parts of our culture. Or are we talking bout accent here or rap in broken grammar like Zebrudahia as Terry ritely said

@Kaydee
45 inherited all those ill tracks from his great grand fathers, he's from a "ill" generation.

@point 45
Bami wa nkan kan

@eldee

And you said rugged is fake, please define fake, Does it mean representing for your people(check out his website ( http://www.ruggedmanonline.com/main.html ). this guy got tv airplay when the only thing we use to get was fake rnb tracks

50cent's A yo tech is on number 3 on chartlist while common's the people is not on the list. I guess its because 50 is better than common. Go and figure out yourself

Who's got the lyrics? Mode, Who's got the fans?Rugged
You only need to check out his my space page to understand this; he's the most featured rapper in Nigeria, i.e you don't have to buy his album to listen to his songs, that who I call a sucessful artiste.

Pls. Can you tell me what the thread topic reads? is there anything like successful in it? is there anything like who's got fans? GO AND SLEEP

@gbade x.
  You dissed me gan ooo, but i no vex. Maybe because i've seen your posts in some other threads and i realized that you're not a baby hiphopwise, you're just holding on to your own opinion. i can see people are trying to end the whole stuff on the basis of hold your opinion and let me hold mine, which should not be, as educated as we are. Let me let you into what i think is the problem, from your last post here:

Sometimes, i look at you cats and shake my head in part amusement and part pity; you suckas don't know shittu about the industry. Music has evolved rapidly over the years/decades. As there's the talent side to music which makes the bulk of it, so is there the business side to it -whether u like to admit it or not

I think we are mixing two things up in here. the title reads "Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?" this is different from saying who is more successful, and don't tell me success is measured tru lyrics, i know you won't .
We all know what we are looking for in a rap lyrics. If it is money, ehen,  we sabi dat one. We are not talking about Soul music, where you know the elements to be the voice and blablabla but in Rap, we all know now,  Dats why most of these guys are gettin shits wrong,  Its like saying JayZ is successful because he has better lyrics when compared to Talib Kweli,

@ritchboi
since you dont understand you don't flow, how would you understand this:

if your name was ocean tide, you won't flow

don't have much time for dumb students like you. Just go and look for "the elements of rap" and submit to be when next you post somthin,  its 10mrks, 

@tushman
O.D. is not new my brother.

@wordsmith
the only reason i would agree with you that ruggedman is beta is because he is speaking for people like you, and atleast he is the best you have ever had in Naija. Just because he speaks for you : Dumb audience

I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it yet they all yell holla
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be
lyrically, Talib Kweli
Truthfully I want to rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five mill' - I ain't been rhymin like Common since
- Jay Z [Moment of Clarity, The Black Album]

maybe i should explain to you, Unlike Chinua Achebe who writes in day to day language in order to reach everybody, Wole Soyinka writes in an elevated form because he believes he doesn't write for fools. Don't try to say they are diff.

its not about the mother tongue its all about the skill
I appeal to the learned community
- Modenine [You can't hide, NigelBenn's Kraftwork Mixtape]

@ritchboi
i just see how hard it is to upgrade your IQ, no matter how hard i try, you'll always be a "half-wit" you are.

but sometimes in an attempt 2 kick a punchline he says sily shit,like d 2 i quoted.'eggroll' is a finished product n can't b used 2 make sumn else.
its like sayin 'made of televisions',wtf?

guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! you don dey vex me, Do they eat Television in in your village, when you are hungry, you eat sumtin "eatable" not television, and stop your finishd product rubbish, like we're in economics class,
if you don't understand english or any natural language, FIX YOUR CAM AND LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU IN A SIGN LANGUAGE, n*tw*t

@kaydee
hell no, this is not the eldee. well, I figured out from this guy's previous posts. you knw some ***** opinions

@richboi
crap or crack!!! what sh*t are you trying to proof with "finished product"? see, av been advised to let you guyz figure out for yourselvs. now i know what lecturers are goin through! especially when it comes to skoolin *****

@eldee

i listen to more nas, jay and pac than u could ever imagine

anybody can front like he feels rakim, big daddy kane, kurtis blow and all dem, but posts say a lot about people. don't even try to ****

@ Eldee

The fact is that mode is too fake for nigerians. The only way u feel his lyrics is if u actually grew up in the streets of new york, with drug dealers and drive-by gang killing. he just can't describe the agberos' and the bus drivers.(Don't mention Stylee. that was the worst piece of shit he ever spat out). And listen to rugged's opinion

Man what. Da. F**k is the basis of your argument? I guess we are all educated here, and for that fact, any educated fellow would bring examples to butress his points,

i want you to answer these questions?
How many modenine tracks have you heard?

do you really understand their lyrics or you just listening to their choruses like Atewolabala?

if you do, give me one track dat talks about drug dealings, drive by gang killings and any that belongs to New York,


bottomline
i don't think you understand any of his lyrics [ heard is diff from understand], cos your post is purely showing that

@richboi
the line you're trying to quote is from elbow room and if you really understand its a "couplet", so you can isolate it,

am hungry like snoop in the deep cover of deathrow
so, i eat rappers like they made of eggrolls

egg roll is used to slant rhyme with deathrow and the second line is completing the first line that explains the fact that he is hungry.

to explain that line, he is lyrically hungry so he outrhymes rappers tryin to front,

@richboi
u know KingKong, then you understand that there is metaphor plus wordplay there.


see if anyone does not understand modenine, that person is not intelligent to do so

i don dey rite too long,

Point45, whaz really good? saw you offline, reply your buoy, man needs money

@kaydee
Whaz da deal kay? been followin our post very lng time [u and gbade x], .real head is what you is man.

juz dropping hails ,

waiting for more post from guys,

@eldee
i heard and digested the lyrics for good, damn straight, he was beefing modenine. but listening to the lyrics very well again, he couldn't come into conclusion what he is actually doing, first verse, " he believes he's keeping it real by speaking what his people can feel" Second verse: "he says when he was keeping it real, he couldn't buy good cloth or shoe" . but there's no problem, he said it at the beginning of his first verse ", playing my controversial character". bottom line, he dissed modenine but not in the lyrical way [ if you know what i mean] Ghetto P dissed Mode9 the lyrical way, Ruggedman has lil space in the lyrical world

talkin about modenine's place in US. I guess Talib Kweli, Pharaohe Monch, Immortal Technique, Mos Def, Blackthought, Strong Arm steady are all somewhere, he would probably be one of those places, atleast they all leave in the U.S doing that lyrical sh*t,

By saying modenine has no space here, you're saying we are not developed to his kind of music, that's limiting us, abeg
we've got a lot of hiphop heads feeling modenine in nigeria

what if mr henry was askd to come wiv a proof?
would he have packd his username and be on the move?

what if he didn't study sentence stress?
would he have savd himself from stress and un[b]stress[/b] stress?

what if i engage mr henry on an english phonological battle?
would dat not cause a new thread and lots of chronological samples?

what if mr hery was just trying to front?
would this mean that i have wasted my fonts?

what if chamillionaire acutally said niggah?
would the black cop pull his trigger?

what if you were sauce kid?
would you take such risk?
dissin modenine who's saw spit
would make his dislines sound like a sung skit

what if there was no thread like what if?
would this thread be in its fourth leaf?
let it roll cos we need more spit

nuff said already with the poll. Mode takes the lead.

What you don't realize is that people recognize what is real and rite when it comes to identification.

Example is 50 and kanye sales battle, 50 thought he was goin to win kanye. But Americans showed that when it comes to testing their IQ, they know whats real,

I don't hate Ruggedman, He's good at what he's doin, Only if guys understand the tradition, maybe this would not have been a topic.

don't talk about peace or war, cos rugged is not leavin up to dat anymo,
he's just like 50cent, the last ill track i heard from him was "look what you made me do" in 24 shot, besides ManyMen which sounds ill a lil' bit

Don't try to dis me cos am not down fo dat,

Well, i know some guys would raise there eyebrows again but the truth must be told, while i like Sound Sultan from personality to his music, I would give it to Modenine, the guy is getting worse everyday, with illrymes that will make you call a THUG, "POET". and if anyone wants to tell me, he doesn't do anything than word plays, then tell me what makes rap poetic?

I give it to Modenine,

Well, Patricia Etteh must go, that is known already,

but even at that, do we need our reps to behave like that, even Sam Peters[boxer] would exercise patience in that situation [ and don't tell me they were frustrated].

One of them was saying that it would be bad if the international community got to hear this, news fly so fast, contendig with the speed of light

I GOT THE HEADLINE ON BBC BEFORE I TUNED TO NTA, so what else,

once again displaying our "democratic" violence,

Its bad sha

Well, Patricia Etteh must go, that is known already,

but even at that, do we need our reps to behave like that, even Sam Peters[boxer] would exercise patience in that situation [ and don't tell me they were frustrated].

One of them was saying that it would be bad if the international community got to hear this, news fly so fast, contendig with the speed of light

I GOT THE HEADLINE ON BBC BEFORE I TUNED TO NTA, so what else,

once again displaying our "democratic" violence,

Its bad sha

Kanye, Kanye, Kanye,

No 50 cent or fiddy pence or filthy sense or nifty pants in the house,

GOOD music, rockssssssssssssssssssss

Dis Forum reads "NAIRALAND", This is not about New York, Chicago - Not evn the whole North America, This is proudly Nigeria, get that? N.I.G.E.R.I.A, West Africa,

When we talk about 50 and Kanye, we are giving OBJECTIVE opinions and not Sentimental Time wasting shits you're pulling, be able to rep the right thing wheneva, Evn if you are the no1 New York Thug, be able to stay with the truth, JayZ [New York] bilivs in Kanye , Am sure Nas [New York] would everly go for Kanye,

"Curtis" needs to sell "Stronger" to win Kanye, [get that?]

AYO technology ko, BIOLA technology niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

REAL HIPHOP rules,

bottomline, Young, wateva, get educated, even Papoose told yah,

ANd if you love Nigerians, we love you, but if you hate Nigerians, Man, WE HATE YOU TOO

@ gbade.x

now i see you doing da hip - hop shit. i like your lines and i think you're good. thumbs up brother

takin you back to a particular forum,

i'll b wrong to say you copied mode9 [dat shit you hate to hear] nut there's a line i love in ur lines

i smoke this rapper like a pack o' cigarettes/

just like mode9 said

i eat rappers like they made of eggrolls

it resembles kind of,

well, you have tite lyrics and i love it,




i aint givin up my Bee-Gees

@kaydee

its a mixtape that has the likes of Nas, Papoose, Immortal Technique, Jadakiss, Akinyele, Mos Def, Talib Kweli and HiTech {Reflection Eternal} and more. it's a 24 track mixtape.

Mixed by DJ Premier
the last track produced by J. Dilla

those tracks have neva been produced in an album b4,

the theme of the mixtape is The rebirth of Hip-Hop.

@kaydee

u should have heard this mixtape by

DJ Eque, J. Dilla and Talib Kweli
"Talib Kweli Presents Blacksmith - The MOvement"
feat. Jean Grae, Jadakiss, Hitech, Papoose and some blacksmith members,

the two moxtapes are Hip-Hop,

@ colly

you'll have a good website if RCO consulting designed and developed it for you.

hit me on 08058157168.

@ Gbade.x

u should understand Chukky and Kaydee. Hip - Hop has a standard which is supposed to be maintained. And u don't expect real Hip - Hop heads to show love to peeps like Ruggedman. To be factual, Rugged is like that man who is suppose to be an Emcee but unfortunately, he reps "Money" and sold out.

Now the point is this, Rugged is good but he can neva be representin Hip - Hop wiv dat sort of Music he makes. Gbade, takre your time and appreciatre poetry, you'll love real Hip - Hop.

Grab yourself a copy of "One amongst Many" and appreciate Hip - Hop.

@ Kaydee and Chukky

there is a mixtape out "Y'ALL KILLED HIP - HOP" dedicated to J-Dilla -
that mixtape is the rebirth of Hip-Hop,

Peace

gbade sorry bout that ur brother thing, it must have been a mistake, peace bro.