₦airaland Forum

Blue3k:
Nothing like that can happen. The states have to agree
The governor of each state can easily reject initiatives and have alot of power under land use act. I believe legislation is required outlining this.

Thank you sir. If its repeated enough eyes will open.

ubunja:
can't waste time with a hater of men.

I don't hate pigs. It would be a waste of my resource.

ubunja:
i thought you were reasonable

Now i see you just another clown

I tell you more women knew and still it's men's fault? Get your misandristic attitude away from me.. Mxm.

Go back to my first post on this thread. It should cure you of thinking wrongly.

Korllami007 fixed.

joeeee240:
Lol #metoo movement is dying

It will only die after it has served it's purpose.

ubunja:
it's funny cause when Harvey Weinstein was outed as a perv MORE women than men seemed to know what he was doing over the years.

I'd settle for, 'more people knew'. You should wonder why the women who did know said nothing for so long though. Imagine a young girl or boy unable to tell their parent too and the trauma the silence alone would cause, not to talk of the trauma of being raped itself.

ubunja:
Now all men know someone who's a rapist.. Lmfao.

I bet you have not considered that might be because the women around some men can't tell them.

ubunja:
Then the issue here is teaching law enforcement how to handle rape accusations

And teaching parents that rape is nothing to be ashamed of. Which,as I'm saying, can only happen if rape is viewed like every other crime. It's actually the different way that rape is viewed that brings stigma. So let's not rush to the opposite extreme and deify it.

I don't know what "be happy I'm just an opinion on the WWW" means...

That "teaching" is what we are doing in the imperfect best way we know how to with our individual voices on the world wide web (internet).

Rape is stigmatic. It's not like someone stealing my phone or my money that I can replace and just get over. And if wishes came true, mine would be that pigs are able to learn, which they seem unable to currently do. But they will. By hook or by crook, pigs will learn!

Dear Men, It’s Time for #YouToo to Take a Stand

You already knew what was happening, didn’t you? You — the men — you knew. There are too many stories, too many women, too many facts for you to possibly believe that this is all made up. Every year, you are the ones that require us — the victims — to resurface all these deeply buried stories and lay them out in the sunshine so that you can dismiss them, or find fault in them, or, worst of all, pretend not to see them at all. You didn’t need 500,000 tweets or 12 million Facebook posts shouting “me too” because you already knew.

This post has links that should be read is why I'm signposting to the rest of it or I'd have copied it all here.

ubunja:
Rape is like any other crime committed against a person. Like stabbing. Let's not elavate it to something it's not.

Every crime alleged must be followed by evidence. The justice system that requires evidence must be upheld. or else society won't survive.

No one can live in a society where you're guilty until proven innocent. No ways. I'm out.

Except its a "crime" that the person its perpetuated against has to convince the authorities actually happened in the first place, in a society that has traditionally kept such crimes silent! Do you not know that some parents would tell their children to not report it because they, the parent, is ashamed?

When you treat it like "any other crime committed against a person", and when your police understand how to properly follow and gather the evidence, both of which they don't do, then perhaps people like me will be less irrational about raping pigs. Until then, I get to decide guilt.

You, be happy I'm just an opinion on the WWW.

Esseite:
Other Tribes can breed cows on their own if they so hunger for beef. majority have seen the mayhem of the fulani herders and the docile attitude of the govt towards them. It's obvious the settlements would be segregated to 95% fulani territories and eventually turned villages.

The settlements of the military era, are they still called settlements?

Yes, what you call Ruga will be settlements, but this is precisely the distortion I mentioned. It is not a Ruga Plan since not all cattle herders are Fulani, and FG cannot just sequester land in states!

We Nigerians seriously need to understand that we, each of us, is governing Nigeria, and help government come up with appropriate solutions, instead of bath watering the baby. But I do understand how almost impossible it is to for some to know the powers they yield, and the cost of having to show you.

lexy2014:
U didn't answer d question. If its going 2b so successful as u say, y does d FG not want to start d programme in d states of origin of d Fulani herdsmen? Or do these Fulani herdsmen not have states of origin?

You are the one missing the point. The name, Ruga, is propaganda. The Livestock Transformation Development Plan is not for Fulani only since anyone can buy land and set up a ranch, and it is in fact anti-fulani since it means they can't just roam around letting their disease ridden cattle eat other people's crops and woud now have to buy land to keep their cattle and buy feed for them too.

The current herding of cattle is inefficient, deflates meat production and keeps prices high. It spreads diseases to other cattle. My ranch in Osun State was devastated due to this. It didn't matter how well my cattle were, contact with Fulani roaming cattle just killed it. This plan will encourage university graduates who have learnt animal husbandry to take over from archaic uneducated Fulani and set up 21^st century ranches and increase production and profit. Like I said in the op, 'honey' and not 'lemon'.

As for Federal Government appropriating land in states, I suggest you listen to the spokesperson for Benue State to learn the position of the constitution on land. Ranching is an individual venture, and not an Fg sponsored business. See below, what we are trying to avoid. In my Orolu Kingdom, which is on the way to Ogbomosho and the major cattle market in Jebba, and with a lot of fertile land thats good for grazing, we had to pass laws that they can only move cattle after 1am and be off the streets by 5am.

If anyone has a link to anywhere this policy came from my bubu, please post it so I can read it. All I'm seeing is "he said", and smoke!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgcA4G39ac

Originalsly:
Bro... I follow your reasoning....all sound reasonable. I can bet my life... you have never sat down and have a rape victim talk to you about her being raped. I have.... to a few. One thing is common with them.... doesn't matter how longggg ago they were raped..... you will believe it happened yesterday....it is not at all easy for them to talk about it.... that you will know even if you are not paying attention. So when you hear rape victims are traumatized for life.... you wouldn't understand unless you speak with them. Worse than that... is a child abuse victim... speak with just one.... and you will understand why they are by far....the most hated in prisons.... and suffer the most. Rape is no joke.... and not something easy for women to talk about. This woman has spoken out... and want to have her day in court. I can bet my life... he would rather commit suicide than be in court to defend himself.

This thread requires rationality which I cannot possibly have for this topic so I'm limiting my participation to 'men are pigs', and Nigerians seem not to understand the trauma of rape with even women saying "get over it" as if it was their coffee that was spilt.

It's the sense of entitlement that gets me. You men might understand how it feels though. Imagine a big burly man holding you down and forcefully shoving a prick up your ass and let me know how easy it would be to "get over it"!

If I wrongly accuse you of raping me, the law, which is heavily biased against me unless I provide video recording of you in the act or verified dna of your sperm on my pants, hopefully, would protect you. Otherwise, the penalty for rape should be sharialike. We should chop off at least half of your prick!

I will irrationally respond to quotes, do note. I'm so delighted Me Too has arrived in Nigeria.

ubunja:
I was raped as a little kid by older females. it's in the past. I let it go. time heals

Time healed you! People do differ.

I'm going to pray you get tired of taking a "chill" and speak up and fight to change this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMV6QWaEik

But first. You know what they say when life gives you lemons? This. The Livestock Transformation Development Plan, which you've all decided to derogatorily label Ruga, as in Fulani, is, life giving honey. The pity is so few see that. The joy is, some follow the money.


Livestock Transformation Development Plan — Cattle Ranching as the Best Alternative in Nigeria

_{Vantage PointNg Oct 24, 2018 · 6 min read}

From time immemorial, agriculture has been the mainstay of Nigerian economy. Livestock farming is a component of agricultural practice and it is a lucrative business. The Fulanis are well known for rearing cattle in large numbers for consumption and commercial purposes. Owing to this, the Fulani cattle farmers move from one location to another in search of pasture for their cattle. This often constitute disruption to farming activities as most crops are used as pasture for the cattle in the course of the movement from place to place.

Against the erroneous impression that it just started, the Fulani herdsmen/farmers conflict has been ongoing spanning decades. Attacks after attack has left thousands dead with a whole lot of economic loss. This has led to low beef production and has affected the entire agricultural value chain. In a report presented by the technical adviser to the National Economic Council (NEC), Andrew Kwasari in June 2018, he pointed out that Nigeria loses N5.04 trillion annually to the herdsmen/farmers conflict in addition to loss of lives, schools, homes, and infrastructure.

A holistic solution which will deal with the problem of encroachment into farmlands and an inclusive plan which will integrate both farmers and herdsmen into modern way of farming and grazing needs to be sought to find a lasting solution to the incessant crisis. The Federal Government is working on a 10 year mediation plan, stemming from recommendations from the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development and the private sector, as well as from the National Economic Council (NEC) being chaired by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo.

The Livestock Transformation Development Plan being designed by a sub-committee of NEC is built on six key pillars which cater to economic investment, conflict resolution, law and order, humanitarian relief, information/education and strategic communication, and other cross-cutting issues. For its pilot phase, Adamawa, Benue, Ebonyi, Edo, Kaduna, Nassarawa, Oyo, Plateau, Taraba and Zamfara states will receive interventions in the form of ranches.

In the ranch design plan, there are six pillars that are essential to the success and viability of the ranches: land allocation, ranch size models, feeds and priority breed improvement, access to finance and market, and humanitarian efforts. The plan will create a synergy between Federal and State Governments, as well as the private sector. The funding of the plan from the Federal Government and State governments is expected to last for the first three years in the pilot phase for a total of N70 billion while private sector interests and investment between the third and tenth year is expected to be in excess of N100 billion.

The Land Use Act of 1978 confers the power of land allocation for any purpose to the State and Local Governments. It is within their jurisdiction to allocate land for whatever reason to individuals, associations and even the Federal Government. The act vests all land in the urban areas under the power of the State Government with the land in the rural areas solely the responsibility of the Local Government. The cattle herders are expected to be registered and recognized as cooperatives for the purpose of the proposed ranching scheme. These cooperatives will then be able to enter rental agreements for land use with State Governments and also benefit from on several other terms including loans, grants, and subsidies.
The livestock transformation plan entails each state providing these cattle owners with parcels of land to breed their livestock and produce meat and dairy products. These parcels of land would be turned into ranches for the cattle owners where livestock farming in all its aspects will be carried out and well utilized to the benefit of all the parties involved. The proposed ranch size models, according to the plan, is a cluster of 30, 60, 150 and 300 cows ranch models in a location within the donated reserves, as well as a minimum of 1000 cows breeder ranch in 7 of the 10 Pilot States. A ranch design plan has been proposed in models of various sizes clustered in 94 locations in the 10 States. With each State having a ranch, this would increase the Internal Generated Revenue (IGR) of the State Governments as the funds generated from the ranches would also go into the development of these States.

The idea of ranching is not new as this has been in practice in developed countries like Britain, Argentina, India and USA. These ranches help the farmers maximize the produce from their cattle with the byproducts being marketed and sold to generate revenue and funds for the upkeep of the ranch and to add to the GDP of the nation. The ranches are not gifts or compensation to the cattle farmers but a project that looks into improving and developing livestock farming, taking it past the mediocre way it is being practiced.

The livestock market is huge in Nigeria as the country boasts of a vast majority of meat consuming populace. It is however expedient that a solution is found that would ensure the continuity of this market to cater to the need of the teeming populace. Once these ranches are built and operational, it would ensure that there is availability of adequate and healthy meat in the Nigerian market. As the cost of long distance transportation would be bypassed, the price of meat in the market will become affordable. The ranches would be out fitted with basic amenities that would serve the ranchers like water, adequate pasture, electricity, health (for cattle and farmers) and the access to education.

The ranches would be well equipped to serve a larger purpose than for rearing cattle as it would serve as a community for the cattle owners. On the ranches would be equipment and machinery that would help in meat and dairy production. The diary aspect has not been explored to the fullest in Nigeria as most of the milk and cheese marketed and sold are not locally made but imported into the market. Reason being the average milk yield per cow in Europe is between 40–50 liters per day as compared to the paltry 1–2 liters yield of the Nigerian cow due to poor feeding, poor health and stress on the grazing trails. In a ranching system, a cattle would be able to produce up to 5litres of milk in a day.

The profit in the industry is derived mainly from the dairy products which by some estimates could be in excess of 15,000 USD per milking cow per year. In Nigeria cattle is reared mainly for the beef and minimally for the milk, which takes away the bulk of the profit in the business. Milk production would be concentrated on to contribute substantially to the national economy and at the same time stop the perennial conflicts between herdsmen and farmers in the country.

The ranches would not only focus on the rudiment of ranching and livestock farming, it would also have schools for formal education for herder’s children. These cattle owners does not have formal education, they are mostly literate. The schools on the ranches would offer basic education to the ranchers and their children. Teachers would be deployed to teach the children on subject taught according to the UBE syllabus to improve their literacy and numeracy skills. This would help to familiarize them with reading materials on farming and ranch management which ultimately improves and increases their technical know-how for a better yield.

This solution will improve genetic material of indigenous cattle; provide critical market access infrastructure; and create better linkages between smallholder livestock producers and investors for agricultural technology adoption and support for value addition. Running the ranches might be cost effective as regards building and operation but is an investment towards ensuring the safety and security of both livestock farmers and crop farmers. It would also create more jobs for doctors, builders and marketers which would go a long way in reducing the unemployment rate in the country as qualified Nigerians would be employed. It is time to embrace ranching as the best alternative to marauding cattle rearing in the country and as a lasting solution to the long existing conflict.

Samnick:
China mind:u tinks say u fit do me anyhow u go do as if na u get dis world. foolish American

america mind: for in mind he tinks say he don win watch yor bck I'm coming 4 u

America is going for China?

Ha ha ha.

deomelo:
I just wonder..

E pain am!

EFCC shall be going after Guaranty Trust Bank soon.
Aiding and abetting is a crime.

Together! We will make Nigeria better.

Lizilicious:
My mind us telling me that Buhari is using this issue to distract us from the RUGA matter...
Before our eyes clear, we'll be seeing cattle ranch everywhere...

E go be like TV show

Yeah. Of course. My bubu raped Fatoyinbo!

The pastor threatened a lawsuit against Mrs Dakolo and others he accused of defaming his character, adding that many of the sexual misconduct claims he had faced over the years had come from scorned women within his ministry.

If you sue her she lied. So go ahead Pastor, sue, if you dare!

Sorry everybody but I've decided, without seeing any evidence whatsoever that he's a pig. "Scorned women within your ministry" mbbb!

Find it in you to overlook my shortcoming please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgcA4G39ac

To those who say he should not step down, you do know that if he worked for a company they'd suspend him pending an investigation, and that if you hold your MOGs to very high standards our politicians would have to fall in line? A few of us will have daughters or are women whom I'm sure we'd like not to be preyed on by lecherous pigs. And we all have brains which I'd very strongly advise we use to dig us out of mediocrity. Others have and we deserve no less!

Metoo finally arrives in Nigeria!

Yippee!

PoliteActivist:
That's the spirit.
Ok, ok, everyone, 9jarealist, budaatum, it's all over. As Gowon would say, "no victor, no vanquished". (Though I have a sneaky suspicion we all know who "won" - those screenshots eh!! ) But let's all be friends again. If we were together I'd order a round of drinks and pepper soup for everybody.
At least we all learnt that China and Japan not only have debts but are actually in worse shape debt-wise than US. Who would have thunk! Read through the thread you'll see no one said anything about China having debt.
Anyway, it's all over. Until we meet again on another thread, God bless.

You and who agrees that China, the fake fake China, the China who can make dollars in their own backyards and if not can definitely make their own Yuan is in a worst state than US who needs to outsource to the same China!? Or you want us to start on China printing Yuan?

Seriously, I wonder how people underestimate China. Just reading through their history should disabuse people of that grave error, but I guess we are Nigerians, the Nigeria that lacks history teachers, and if we had them I doubt they'd teach Chinese history.

But apart from all that, as in, China will wipe magacountry's face in dust someday, yes, it's nice to disagree civily and maturely. We have indeed touched for ever, and yes, the beer is on you.

Gowon's "no victor, no vanquished" by the way, was a cancerous idea. Its like I kick your ass all over summer then say to you, not even "no hard feelings", but "forget the ass kicking I gave you and we'll call it quits". Me, I'll forever watch my back because I'll be a fool to think the vanquished won't stab me one dark night. Its manifesting as distrust amongst our tribes, and I think Nigeria can heal it by at least saying "ok, we really truly wopped your ass more than you deserved but you did deserve a large chunk of it running off with our Nigeria. To show that we forgive you, we are increasing your proportion of oil revenue to 35% for the next 5 years, then to 30 for 5 more after that". Yeah, that should heal Gowon's cancerous "no victor, no vanquished" curse.

PoliteActivist:
That's exactly what you and the guy are implying when China has even a worse debt profile than USA. Who knew!!
Beholden? How then do you characterise this statement:
China holds almost 30% of US sovereign debt...
By your analogy that makes the US China’s b*tch! grin

No Sir! Surely, you inferred that "that makes the US China’s b*tch!" Do kindly take responsibility, you are capable!

Dem gragra finish when US companies felt the pain of Huawei ban.

There are no gay Muslims anywhere!

It sounds interesting but skeptical us would have to see this pan out as stated.

And for that reason, Seyi Makinde, I buda, tentatively applaud you.

solite3:
Note he said all scriptures both old and new testament.

And he also said, "Don't eat only bread least you become malnourished", advice the op appears to not have taken, it would seem.

Piers Morgan who

We don't take lessons from him!