₦airaland Forum

Martinez39:
Lol. Socialism gave Maduro the opportunity to hold power without checks and that led to a dictatorship. This is one of the reasons why socialism fails.

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The checks of socialism is the regulation by the community as a whole because they own the means of production, distribution, and exchange!

Martinez39:
Anyways, on the issue of equal pay, socialism eventually makes everyone equally destitute while the politicians live the high life.

So, "the politicians live the high life" ? Is that because they don't receive the equal pay of the janitor?

Martinez39:
Lol. There is something like full blown socialism. Venezuela, under Hugo Chavez and Maduro, experienced "full blown" socialism. Infact, the so called socialist programmes in America are not strictly socialist programmes because they are funded by people's money and make use of products created by industries that are privately owned. Socialism that need capitalism is no longer socialism.

Venezuela does not practise "full blown socialism", nor is everyone paid the same! They have generals in Venezuela, with guns, which I'm 100% certain they would use if they were paid the same as janitors!

And if every one was paid the same they would be happy with Maduro and wouldn't be trying to kick him out.

Martinez39:
I agree but those socialist policies are funded by tax payers money. Tax payers are generated from their capitalist systems. The kind my topic is talking about is full blown socialism.

There is nothing called "full blown socialism"! If you mean communism, just say so, or say you are speaking American.

Socialism does not function without capitalism, they are not either ors.

GenSpecifics:
If you reward laziness and indolence at the expense of those who work hard only for their labour gains to be stolen from them and shared to the mob, how on earth do you think anybody will want to work?

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

All the community will go to produce and come back to share it with "laziness and indolence" Why?

GenSpecifics:
And FYI communist/socialsit societies end up producing the same 1% but rather than being the most productive they are drawn from the corrupt bureaucratic govt.

The communist Hugo Chavez's daughter is worth $6bn.

Sounds like Nigeria to me.

GenSpecifics:
Buhari has enriched himself, his family and his cronies in like manner.

Does Buhari rule a socialist society?

Martinez39:
My point was that in a socialist state, wealth is equally distributed. A doctor would be paid the same as a janitor. Do you think that's right?

A doctor is not paid the same as a janitor in a socialist state and wealth is not equally distributed! Your point is incorrect!

Martinez39:
lol. I don't know how to respond to this. Read my post and read what you wrote. Nevertheless, even their previous cash would be distributed equally.

Those who contributed more or were vital to achieving a particular aim do get more! Or where else did they get the resources with which they did more if they were not given more?

I have deep regard for you! What do you mean, "you don't know"?

GenSpecifics:
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Communism calls for ........

Socialism is not the same thing as communism.

Martinez39:
Lol. In a socialist society, they would be those who contributed more or were vital to achieving a particular aim, why shouldn't they get more? Why should they get equal pay as others?

They don't get equal pay! Some people live in the mansions in the cities that were built before we went socialist. And some still live far away in their villages where electric poles don't stand.

Martinez39:
Lol. In a socialist society, they would be those who contributed more or were vital to achieving a particular aim, why shouldn't they get more? Why should they get equal pay as others?

More what? You are a farmer in a socialist society, small land you plant and tend. Do you get the same as professors in universities get! Should you get what professors in universities get?

Martinez39:
The nature of man's envy to have everyone below or on the same level as he is. One of motives behind socialism is the envy that the poor have towards the rich. Man's envy wants equality or superiority and alas socialism provides that equality. No one is rich, no one is poor.

"The nature of man's envy", what is that? Are you suggesting that because we are social no one knows their level? Be envious then, or a man if you want, and come and tell me you are superior or equal, and want to be on the same level.

Mr Man, the rich person is rich. How can a person who lacks take it off them?

Martinez39:
4) IT PENALISES ACCOMPLISHMENT : in a capitalist economy, when you work hard to get $2m, the money is yours, you get to keep it and no one is entitled to your money. In a socialist state, what you earn belongs to the state and would be equally distributed to others, that's if the government is transparent in it's socialism otherwise they would pocket it and neglect the people and there is nothing anyone can do since the government has absolute power. Is it justified for you to work and have your salary distributed equally to others?

In a socialist society, "you" do not, all by yourself, work hard! Your arrow may be the arrow that struck the buffalo down dead, but "we" worked together to kill it, so why do you want to keep all the meat to yourself?

Share, dude. Unless you killed the buffalo and want to eat all by yourself!

Martinez39:
3) IT IDEALIZES STATE POWER : Well, that is socialism. Given that human beings are corrupt, giving a set of people absolute power without checks leads to totalitarianism, corruption, negligence of the people and abuse of human rights by the authorities with impunity.

Socialism does not "give a set of people absolute power without checks"! You should be a part of the community exercising you own power to look after your own interest!

Martinez39:
2) IT RATIONALIZES THEFT : the arm robber in a socialist economy would forcefully collect what you own all in the name of the state owning everything and wealth being equally distributed. The arm robber has good reasons or shall I say excuses to take from you and may even abuse the privilege to leaving you with nothing.

It is not in a socialist society "that anyone could forcefully collect what you own all in the name of the state owning everything"! That happens in a thieves society or somewhere like that.

In a socialist society, the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned or regulated by the community as a whole so you would not allow any one to steal it if you can and would most definitely not steal it from yourselves!

Nor is wealth equally distributed in a socialist society! Some fly first class while some will walk!

Martinez39:
1) IT NORMALISES ENVY : naturally, human beings are envious of those (especially their mates) that are more successful and instead of curbing the envy of the poor towards the rich, it gives room for the envious to take from the successful and share amongst themselves with impunity.

No it does not, "NORMALISES ENVY" !

Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

In such a society, there will be no "poor" or at least, not so poor to be that envious because they know they have not done or had their forebears do what the rich had done to make them so rich.

Besides, the rich are not stupid! We demand the protection of the state, or hasta lavista poor people!

johnydon22:
Wait.

Buda is a she

Or is that the spirit too?

Ayam confused

Hmm. That's an odd question!
Is it not the spirit that animates?

You upskirting me, johnydon22!

buda is a sexless sexless.
Only those of eye can tell.
He was created male and female.

And yes, its all spirit. Even up my skirt!

Rebekkah:
LOVE AT THE 9TH HOUR

Psalm 32:11 King James Version (KJV)
Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye
righteous: and shout for joy, all ye that are
UPRIGHT IN HEART.

Nobody's soul deserves hell. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

Jesu love me now!
I will not wait till the THE 9TH HOUR!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5fXhoxJqQQ

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from the evil one.

Amen

jesusjnr:
Allahu Akbar!

In Jesus mighty name!

It all starts with me. I have to ask myself questions like

What or who is a me?
Why do I think or believe that there is a me?
How many mes do I believe in?
Why do I believe in me?
Why don't I believe in other mes?
Why do I refer to some mes as mythological characters but mine is not even though they share the same characteristics?
Why don't I worship the old mes?
How did I come to believe in me?
Does reality justify my beliefs or contradict them?
What is my history?

BL00DRAW:
It’s the church and Saint Paul that has fed them the dogma of three gods in one god and the blood of the begotten son theory. How their intelligence allows them to accept such a concept of God is beyond understanding.

I am the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

Unless you enjoy Egypt!

Proverbs 3
1
My son, do not forget my teaching, but keep my commands in your heart,
2
for they will prolong your life many years and bring you prosperity.
3
Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.
4
Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.
5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;
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in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. [1]
7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil.
8
This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones.
9
Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops;
10
then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine.
11
My son, do not despise the LORD's discipline and do not resent his rebuke,
12
because the LORD disciplines those he loves, as a father [2] the son he delights in.
13
Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding,
14
for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold.
15
She is more precious than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with her.
16
Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor.
17
Her ways are pleasant ways, and all her paths are peace.
18
She is a tree of life to those who embrace her; those who lay hold of her will be blessed.
19
By wisdom the LORD laid the earth's foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place;
20
by his knowledge the deeps were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew.
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My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight;
22
they will be life for you, an ornament to grace your neck.
23
Then you will go on your way in safety, and your foot will not stumble;
24
when you lie down, you will not be afraid; when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet.
25
Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked,
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for the LORD will be your confidence and will keep your foot from being snared.
27
Do not withhold good from those who deserve it, when it is in your power to act.
28
Do not say to your neighbor, "Come back later; I'll give it tomorrow"-- when you now have it with you.
29
Do not plot harm against your neighbor, who lives trustfully near you.
30
Do not accuse a man for no reason-- when he has done you no harm.
31
Do not envy a violent man or choose any of his ways,
32
for the LORD detests a perverse man but takes the upright into his confidence.
33
The LORD's curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.
34
He mocks proud mockers but gives grace to the humble.
35
The wise inherit honor, but fools he holds up to shame.

Oh Lord and Heavenly Father
Buda sinned!

She took your name in vain
And blasphemed!

Delightfully! She said you were insane!

Forgive her Lord.
And she will not sin again!

well,so far no one has come up with any evidence be it physical or spiritual, all these people saying that I won't understand spiritual things I perceive that is an excuse you are using because you have no proof to your claim

Provide evidence be it material or immaterial, that is all I'm asking for,not unnecessary logic

To Nobody!

The nobodies are nobody that don't have names.

They had a name and then they fell
obliterated a la faux pas.

So nobody has no soul.

If nobody had a soul nobody would still be here.

Proof!

johnydon22:
Haaaaaaa! Common bro! LOL Don't be like that

It's not me, but the Spirit in me.

I'm going to miss atheist buda.
She was cool!
Pity she evolved.

Ah well, onward and upward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63yBpl6Oixo

Nairaland converted an atheist!

Omooba77:
The Gospel say, we are the Epistle men read. Is your and my Life attractive or repulsive to people around us?

Buda is work in progress. One day she will have fully evolved.

Meanwhile, fix me Jesus. Make me attractive!

johnydon22:
the website name though: dissentfromdarwin.org lol

anyway i expect such skepticism from scientists otherwise what are we doing? we must comfortably challenge our own ideas, courageously and perpetually question our positions if we sincerely seek the truth

Tell me about it! All of a sudden, they all run away.

Johny, I got this crisis, now they all gone.

Lately, all my words have been the Word.
When I write my own they are not my own
I'm losing control. It's burning my soul.
Cause spirits take over and writes it's!

I think buda may become a Christian!

I wonder if you would help me?

Please.

MuttleyLaff:
ihedinobi3, I know a thick skin is a gift from God, so just pray for a tough hide, if you havent already developed one. It is so important because you are going to be mocked, ridiculed, misunderstood, laughed at, comments made fun of, take the mick out of, insulted abused ectetera

You left out "Crucified!" How can you do diarrhoea of words and miss out "Crucified" !?

Do mine. Without the dow please!

stanech:
Achievements of the worlds first "feminist" government in Sweden

- 40 000 women genitally mutilated in Sweden
- 7 840 reported rapes last year (new record)
- Half of reported rapes are against children
- 50% of women afraid to go outside alone in some areas

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You forgot to state your source!

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HappyPagan:

I'm booking space all the same. You worth it!

TheArranger:
I'd rather be blind then....

"It's a choice", a Christian responds, resolving to pray for your type.

HappyPagan:
In the beginning, there was darkness. NEPA came and Nigerians saw light. Then NEPA went again.

Electricity isn't magic, it isn't spiritual - which is a real pity. If it were spiritual, Nigerians would be feeding other nations power.

When these words enter your eyes and into your brain and hit your mind, you, pagan, jigi.

Jigi, is influenced mysteriously to you, supernaturally by me to spiritually make you go jigi. That influence is magical power that runs the device through which my mind just made your's jigi.

Without the "magic" my words will not hit your eyes and hit your brain and hit your mind and make you go jigi because my words wouldn't have had the power to leave my mind and magically hit your mind.

Electricity is the power that influences events by mysterious or supernatural forces and made you go jigi, the definition of magical - look it up! When Nigeria understands that electricity is magical and mysterious and spiritual - which we don't appear to know yet and which is the real pity - Nigerians will feed other nations power.

For now it is mysterious hence magical and we starve.

Your last question was "where's my faith?"

In your mind, pagan! It went jigi. Confirm!