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spongeisback:
List of anti christ so far
1) Obama 2) pope emeritus 3) prince William 4) everyone that doesn't believe that old Jewish fable. Now a ROBOT is the anti christ?!?! Common christards make up your minds.

And iPhone 4, 5, 6, 7, Android and all other phones.

Deicide:
So we should start creating religion from everyone we see value in?

We, as in people? 'We' can do whatever 'We' wants to do. In fact, 'We' already does. Or how dare some 'Wes' create 'religions' (or ideology, if you permit) called atheism, Christianity, Hinduism, or Islam, to name a minute few? They are after all human creations.

If 'We' didn't create religions, everyone will be the same religion, and they wouldn't have a say in the matter. I guess it would have to be humanism, or Earthism perhaps, unless some people wish to argue that isn't the one ism we all commonly share. But don't be surprised if some decide to be atheists to these two or decide to be Atheist Sunists, as in followers but not worshippers of the Sun, or Oceanists, or Atheists Oceanists. Lets at least hope there is value in it. Note that they are not saying these things don't exist, just that they are not gods.

By the way, some people ('Wes') are now claiming the gender they were born with is not their proper gender and are changing from male to female and from female to male. It does involve surgery and modification of chemicals in the body, but if 'Wes' can change their gender from the one they are born with, surely they can create the ideologies they wish to hold in their heads, oxymoronic as it may seem.

Oracle16:
No one can be saved except through Jesus Christ. Their mission is to stop people from being saved. They don't want people saved, this is why they attack Christianity. They will not waste their time on already lost souls.

Saved from what?

Deicide:
Then thats no longer Christianity Atheism like hopefullandlord said its just ah oxymoron both words disagree with each other execpt maybe you call it another thing but jesus would still be the factor just like budah in budahism

An ox it may be, but still existent. And Christian Atheism is what it is. You just need to square the circle and ask why a person who does not accept the existence of gods would see value in a human Jesus Christ.

Deicide:
What about the ideology of Jesus being God you are going to ignore that one?

Nope, not ignoring it. Just not agreeing with it hence atheist.

Would you say there is no merit in the human - stripped of all the miracles and sitting on God's right hand - Jesus? As an atheist, there'd be no worshipping either and salvation would have to take on a new meaning too.

Actually, its rather logical. One can adopt the ideology and teachings of Christ but not accept he is a god. Hence Christian Atheist.

Christians might not be so welcoming to such as one though.

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At least 50 people were killed on Tuesday when a teenage suicide bomber blew himself up in a mosque in northeast Nigeria, police said, in an attack blamed on Boko Haram jihadists.

The blast happened during early morning prayers at the Madina mosque in the Unguwar Shuwa area of Mubi, some 200 kilometres (125 miles) by road from the Adamawa state capital Yola.

It was the biggest attack in Adamawa since December 2016, when two female suicide bombers killed 45 people at a crowded market in the town of Madagali.

Nigeria's President Muhammadu Buhari, who announced nearly two years ago that Boko Haram was "technically defeated", described the blast as "very cruel and dastardly".


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Benita27:
What's anyone's business if he ask that his members should donate 1B for the work of God?. Idiots react over things they don't understand 'cause a figure they deem too much is mentioned. On Sunday, they'll carry their bags and bibles to churches they have no idea of how the pillars were laid, AC were bought and certain services were paid for. Reactants!.

One billion for pillars and AC? People need to get brain!

Moneyboyz:
Their kids school abroad and live extravagant lifestyles will we go to church to serve, sweep, build and bring offering and tithe to enrich their lives.
Not even their so called universities are cheap, no motherless baby homes, no charity organization, nothing nothing.

Yet we have 4 most richest pastors in the world in Nigeria, who recreate and twist Bible verses to steal our money. God will judge una

We, the people, will judge them by walking past the church door on Sunday morning.

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Oracle16:
My people, the devil is working tirelessly to deceive a lot of people. He has his agents everywhere including all social media like Nairaland. They come in several forms and names like atheist.... They claim to explain everything through science. Many have been been deceived, even here on Nairaland. Heaven is real and hell is real, only Jesus can save. We are warned about them in the Bible.

This is the reason we atheists can't leave your sort of christian alone. If you were in charge of schools, you'd probably ensure maths wasn't taught. Science and history definitely wouldn't be on the curriculum, least the eyes of your students open.

But hey, when you grow up, you will understand what "Jesus" is. O my delight when the scales drop off your eyes.

The police were negligent. You're breaking public order laws with that speaker you're using. Your god did silence those incompetent cops though.

blackbriar:
YES SHE WAS SO MUCH BLESSED BY GOD TO BE THE MOTHER OF HIS SON...THAT IS BEEN FULL OF GRACE.

"But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?"

MiddleDimension:
this is why atheism is perfect and good for me. Thank you for giving me another reason to feel confident in atheism.

Because you saw a thing you don't like, you refused to read on and therefore missed out in the powerful idea i presented therein. But we atheists are not like that. We go on and probe into areas that disagree with us. And so when we speak, we speak high inelligence of great power that forces our audience to respect us and ask us whay our name is. We are capable of things you guys are not capable of even with what you call faith.

And of course, i am in position to have a valid opinion on this matter. Sorry that you can't force me out of this thread. If you don't read it, millions of people around around the world are reading, and their minds will be shaped anyway. So you are free to ignore me if you want.

For they fear that if they eat of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil they shall surely die!

KingEbukasBlog:
Remember , atheism is tied to nihilism which induces the impulse to destroy and views life as purpose , meaningless, irrational, purposeless which in many cases lead to suicide.

You do like making unjustified statements don't you! But I'm not going to bother asking about your dead atheists. There's enough live ones here.

In what country and period however, was atheism seen to cause suicides keb?

KingEbukasBlog:
False Dichotomy - which is a fallacy . Its not either god or scientific agricultural methods . The third option is to have both gods and scientific agricultural methods .

Example
The ancient Egyptians worshipped the god Osiris who was associated with the River Nile and the fertility of the land. Yet , they developed irrigation systems like the basin irrigation and other different forms of agriculture like horticulture for their gardens .

Anyone with a good knowledge of history of the Egyptians can attest to the abundance and robustness of agricultural outputs from ancient Egypt .

One can indeed "attest to the abundance and robustness of agricultural outputs from ancient Egypt" but to claim it was because of the gods they worshipped is a rather archaic way of seeing things. Its like claiming the farts of Zeus caused hurricanes or that the god Chronos makes Rolex!

The Egyptians took advantage of the natural cyclical flooding pattern of the Nile which deposited fertile soil from upriver and water for irrigation for which they thanked the gods. But we now know the gods had nothing to do with it and when the Egyptians learnt that, Osiris and co 'died'.

KingEbukasBlog:
There are cultures in Nigeria and abroad who believed supernatural beings were responsible for the propitious times of sowing and harvest and still had good farming practices and robust agricultural outputs . Are you denying this ? Since they have good farming practices and robust agricultural outputs , does this validate their belief that supernatural beings were responsible for propitious times of sowing and harvest ?

Very false!

Tampinu:
Abi now ...lol

This is the kind of guys Fela was singing about; they have no love, pride or respect for anything African.

He is here telling me that despite the fact that Ethiopia is the first country mentioned in the Bible on the very 1st page of the Bible, and some Europeans managed to set 66 books as canon, whilst ancient Ethiopia has 81 books.

He is arguing that the Ethiopians will be cursed for adding more books than the 66 books selected and approved by the Europeans. (Sigh).

What kind of reasoning is this?
What are you defending?
Why not just keep silent if unsure?

Hmmmmm

66 books is a lot of books, so we delight that they bothered to read them. Imagine if they had read only one book! Understanding however, is of a different magnitude and essence.

If he were to reason, he would wonder what would happen to those who added the new testament to the old. If they are cursed for adding the extra books, no one would have heard of Christ, then where would we be?

The Pharisees and Sadduces argued the same point, which books are to be read. In one text, Christ said something about marriage. The second escapes me at the moment, but I wonder if it does not involve Caesar. Will check the text duly.

In the meanwillie it would behold thee to meditate on "[Hu]mans shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God". And contend it with the 66 Books version in [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+21%3A25&version=KJV]John 21:25[/url] of the following, "If all the trees on earth were pens, and the ocean were ink, replenished by seven more oceans, the writing of Allah's Words (His wonderful signs and creations) would not be exhausted; surely Allah is Mighty Wise."

"We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

VOY: "Dark Frontier", "Scorpion"

Post of my week.

sonofluc1fer:
For if Christians had continued to act like the Christ they claim to believe in, Nigerian Pentecostal Christianity won't be the mediocrity it is today. Noisy. Pompous. Arrogant. Petulant.

Next Sunday, walk into any church. Raise these prayer points. Let all who lie die by fire. Let all who abuse public offices and office of trust be brought down by the Holy Ghost. May the mouths of those who have eaten "government money" seal up. And watch the service end early. They'd rather fight unseen enemies, evil uncles/aunties, and theie village people.

That's all Christian has become - a list of prayer points and tithe.

There are good Christians, who still appreciate the use of intellect and reason. Unfortunately, a vast majority of their brethren consider these Christians 'oversabi, atheist-to-be'. For them, to use the brain is to be carnal, to be in the flesh. Those in the Spirit, simply believe, no questions asked. Doubt or skepticism is not permitted.


But without doubt, I ask, how would you know truth or fact? Without skepticism, how do you tell TRUE from FALSE?


So when you see fellow Christians asking questions about tithes, be thankful for their doubts. Be grateful, for it gives a chance for one to review, and reveal new things. Doubts, when dismissed with reproach and threats, breeds rebellion. Even Christian history tells this story.


But, alas, how much does the average Nigerian know about Christianity? Most even believe Christianity is not a religion. Call me mad.

Tampinu:
So Ethiopian 81 books are not approved by God, abi? So only the 66 books approved by Oyinbo are allowed, because they are selected by Oyinbo? Even though Ethiopia was first country mentioned in the Bible? Huh?

Ok, you do well. Hmmmmm

He does well indeed!

OkaiCorne:
Thanks boss...God bless you real good

And you too, amen.

OkaiCorne:
And yipee!!! today is my birthday...

Happy birthday to me...

Happy birthday OkaiCorne.
Live long and prosper.

sonofluc1fer:
Atumumus

Lol

Henitan24:
Some of my friends say I'm not a Christian, that I'm a closet Atheist. Some that are Atheists predict that I'll soon become an Atheist. I fully understand where they are both coming from.

You see, Christianity in Nigeria is synonymous with stupidity. If you have a habit of rationalizing, questioning and examining everything, you possibly cannot truly be a Christian in the Nigerian sense of the word. If you use your God-given intellect, you simply don't have faith. Faith is now unthinking following. Sad, but true.

Most high IQ folks reject and rebel against the brand of Christianity they see around because they don't want to identify with idiocy. You'd be shocked to know that most atheists loved the persona of Jesus since when they were kids. They love how Jesus challenged secular and religious authorities, debated them, outwitted them and logically answered their questions. But Alas, they grew up, became smarter, looked around and see nothing resembling His style. At least not anymore.

Virtually 95% of Atheists grew up in Sunday Schools. But now, they identify as either Skeptics or Atheists because our brand of Christianity embarrasses them. And frankly, it embarrasses Christ too.

People in my own camp are the most unfortunate. We are the ones with the herculean task of proving to the world that you can uphold biblical truths and yet not subscribe to inane ideas. That these biblical truths are not only spiritual but logical in their contexts and defensible simultaneously. This comes at a cost. Both groups (church folks and hard-line atheists) reject people like me.

But it is people like me that represent the Christ both as a Spiritual Messiah and a Persuasive Teacher.

Any so-called Christian who says stuffs like 'miracles are not logical' or that 'faith does not require reason' may feel spiritual but garbed in ignorance. He or she needs a crash course in apologia. Sometimes, a little knowledge causes a liberating ripple.

So, Christianity is not synonymous with stupidity. We just have many stupid people acting as its spokesmen.

#truthissacred
Cc Seun

Thank you.

OtemSapien:
Lol, Budaatum even knew Atum before I did. I actually came across Atum just early 2016. I was surprised too when I first saw his moniker.

Hymn to Atum

To Atum, O god who is complete, I offer my praise.
O self-engendered one, you brought into being
cool-headed Shu and Tefnut of the water-flow,
wise and glorious two, born of your seed alone.
First of gods, first of the Ennead, well honored
in Heliopolis in times long gone, I call to you,
Atum, maker of the world, with all reverence.
‎
So long ago, O Atum, in the time before time,
you sat alone within the Nun, arisen ‎from the waters; all that now is, is of you, O god.
Atum, ancient before existence, great of name, great of might,whose will transcends the primordial calm,
lord you are of all you have created, lord of all
the distant lands, lord of all that lies beneath;
yours is a might unsurpassed, a being undiminished.‎

Vixo:
y'all are talking like kids here, ain't you aware that the corrupt government officials we have in Nigeria , arrests or blocks any individual who tries to "help" out by fixing damaged roads

I never understood why, until I found out they receive allocations in their budgets for these same roads , year after year and do nothing about them.

pls why bother?? is that the onlg way Chris must help to make y'all know he cares about others??

pls go get a life Nigerians, you are all depraved.

Go and start a church , from scratch , then come back after 10yrs and let's talk......if you think getting that tithe is easy.....

Janta-Jamodo, is the main road going through Ifon Osun. Tarring of Janta-Jamodo Road, has been on the budget year after year, and when there was money, it was spent. The road though, has always been jagajaga road!

Martinez19:
Actually I left christianity via listening to hopefulLandlord, hahn, HardMirror, you, Johnydon22 and Richard Dawkins. It was a very informative process that pushed me to think. It got to a point, I couldn't deny the fact that religion was bullshit. Not just religion but other world mysticism like witchcraft, voodoo, charms, traditional woowoo etc. were bullshit.

Free thinking!

I like that.

dalaman:
I believed because there are mathematical laws that and involved and when applied will give you that answer.

Hey, you believed?

Explain please.

GoodMuyis:
boring

Must be some logic I don't get. Thought it might be interesting to a thermodynamist though.

I learn daily.

bloodofthelamb:
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO LOVE GOD? IS THERE ANY ACTION INVOLVE RATHER THAN TO BELIEVE IN HIS SON? HOW CAN WE EXPRESS OUR LOVE TO GOD?

Please say, why do you want to live a godly life if you don't know what it is?

However, it's in the second command.

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.