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NoToPile:
Near Idol status?? Not at all I think.

You can't just pick anybody for post of a VP, he/ she must have achieved something to even be considered .

@bold:

I am not disputing her achievements or qualifications:

Let me ask:

If Peter Obi became the first Igbo VP in Nigeria, do you think it is worth celebrating?

cococandy:
It’s not idolization of her personal achievement.

It’s a celebration of what her being in that position represents for minorities and women.

You have it mixed up:

Her personal achievements are nice to celebrate and a nice 'look at what Kamala' achieved.

Becoming the VP is not.

Do you think Peter Obi's becoming the VP of Nigeria as the 1st Igbo VP is worth hyping more than his Governorship?

Would you have celebrated Peter Obi becoming the 1st Igbo VP if Atiku Won?

Denique:
Hahaha @99thEnemy, should we tell her?

Let's take this off here so as not to derail the thread.

Don't try yourself.

I don't care if you are both sleeping on same bed or twins

If your follow works out, my cut is 15%.

99thEnemy:
The Electoral College system of electing the POTUS is unfair in my opinion to be used decide.

Winner should be declared by majority and not ECV.

If my wish was so, Trump would have never become president in the first place because Clinton's popular vote was 6million+ more than Trump.

Was it not same Electoral College system that confirmed Biden as POTUS?

Na turn by turn.

Liposure:
Kamala harris was chosen to compensate the african american women who stood by biden during the primaries coupled with the fact that kamala was a lawyer with strict anti criminal policies. So its not what you think

What do I think?

Nonexistent:
What do you mean by christain Trump and evil Biden? In Biden we trust, deal with it.

aroundtheearth:
Some Nigerians in Nigeria are ignorant about U.S politics and I imagine they fell for his false rhetoric about Christianity. If asked questions about the past 4-years under his administration, they’ll have to answer to give. I’m not going to start listing all his inadequacies or how he’s literally the worst and most failed U.S President, but to illustrate with the recent event (the attack on the capital) that took place earlier this month, while his supporters were calling for Pence to be executed, Trump continued to attack the VP on Twitter. Really, that’s indefensible. For anyone to believe he’s a Christian or even call him one, is absurd.

Her achievements revolves around her career. She passed the bar and became an Assistant Attorney focusing on sex crimes, then was elected mayor of San Francisco, then was elected District Attorney in California (the first ever black woman to be elected District Attorney in California), then was elected California’s Attorney General, then created OPEN JUSTICE, etc.

I didn’t say it’ll never happen. In fact, I’m hopeful it will, someday.

@bold:

Fantastic achievements, she worked for these and worth all the hype.

Trump is a good prototype of their version of 'Christianity'

Cc: NoToPile

I am not disputing her qualifications.

thorpido:
The church is not 'throwing away the baby with the bathwater'.
It is not saying the church will not accept you again but you will lose some rights eg having the deductions ceremony during the church service.

But the dedication is the Koko.

The thanksgiving is just the peripheral.

I am just thinking: 'how would Jesus have handled it'?

99thEnemy:
It's been like 10 yrs for me oh!

15yrs for me

DontBullshitMe:
Because she's the defacto president.

Okay

FalseProphet1:
I see so many lies in this thread, a lot of people will lift stories the found from different blogs and website and post it here claiming that it's theirs. This I have seen.

No good marriage around you?

99thEnemy:
I am contemplating on starting a hobby website on just one niche, but I am still contemplating on making it versatile (multi niche).

But I can't be jack of all trades.

Was thinking if maybe there are other hobby writers I can team up with.

If any collaboration comes out of this, my cut is 15% for providing the platform for you to connect.

mabeni:
she knows he doesn't go to church. Like i said earlier, the guy is a good person. He treats her well, doesn't smoke, doesn't, drink and do not cheat on her.

The woman is too troublesome.

She knows Bobo doesn't go to church or hates the church.

Why is she forcing him now?

thorpido:
To discourage fornication.
What they are saying is,if you get pregnant,go and do your traditional wedding.Come as a couple later for thanksgiving.

So they are not holy enough to dedicate the child but holy enough to thank God for the child?

Same child they have decided God would not accept?

The pregnancy no wedding one is even manageable.

This?

I have never heard of it.

thorpido:
To discourage fornication.

Nope.

Most couples fornicate and destroy the evidence.

It is teaching them to steal and clean mouth.

mabeni:
no. You are getting it wrong. The guy is also a Christian but stopped going to church for reasons best known to him.

In all honesty, the guy in question is a good person. He does not smoke, drink womanize and treats his wife well.

Sometimes, not going church doesn't make people bad.

You are the guy abi?

I like how you are selling your self.

If the good guy is a Christian, he knows he should not forsake the gathering of the brethren.

His unwillingness to attend the thanksgiving speaks volumes.

He doesn't believe in God anymore and unwilling to compromise (Not a sign of a good man if you ask me).

mabeni:
another pastor from different church alright named the child.

The issue now is. The child dedication would been in 7 days time but the lady discussed it with her Pastor, he made her to know she can't still do the dedication in their because she's not legally married but she could come do just THANKSGIVING.

Her husband does not go to church and has warned her against going for the thanksgiving but she doesn't want to listen to him.

Is the father pissed they would not do dedication or he doesn't want to go to church at all?

If the mother knew the father is not a church goer, is there any reason she is insisting he comes with her?

thorpido:
Whether God accepts the child or not is God's prerogative.
However,there are church rules that people have to follow and these have been set out.A couple where the lady is pregnant for example will not be wedded in church.They can still marry and come for thanksgiving later.
The same with child dedications.The ceremony will not be done in church but can be done at home.They can bring the baby later for thanksgiving.

What is the benefit of the Church rule? What were they trying to achieve?

Would it be better if the lady got pregnant and aborted it?

I think some churches do vestry wedding for pregnant couples.

mabeni:
the father of the baby does not go to church. Although, he's a good man. He so much believes in self righteousness. And takes good care of his wife and baby.

He had instructed his wife not to go for the Thanksgiving but the lady does not want to listen to him. He made her know he's not going with her.

What does he believe in spiritually?

Self righteousness? So the woman is an alleged Christian (concerned enough to crave naming & dedication in the church) yet could not find fellow 'Christian' to fornicate with?

She should carry her cross mbok.

mabeni:
Funny thing is that she did introduction and the Pastor is aware of it. And in all honesty the guy's wants to marry her

Whether the man is marrying her or not is outside the scope of this discussion.

Or does the couple want to wait until they wed before their child is named and dedicated?

Everyday there are about four deaths on the front page.

God console his family and Grant them the fortitude to bear the loss.

mabeni:
i know. They refused to name her child and still refused her to come do CHILD DEDICATION in the church. They said she can only do THANKSGIVING.

For the naming, is the child fatherless or were pastors called to name children in the Bible?

The couple should ask for forgiveness with the father leading and ask God for the child's name.

After forty or ninety days (depending on their belief), fast and dedicate the child to God in prayers.

debbydams:
Do we still have fundamental human in Nigeria?


I got my current apartment 2017, I paid 75k nd I moved in, after two month the caretaker called and asked the whole tenant to pay additional 10k that there's an increment, I refused, nd he said if I won't pay that money I should move out with immediate effect, he came and started dragging me(it's student area nd house is very scarce, KWASU students can testify).
I went to police station to report but nothing happened I paid that money , fastfoward to last week, the landlord came nd chsxk the house nd promised to ammend some places.
After three days he called nd asked every body to move out this weekend, the worst part is no vacancy anywhere now I went from one place to another the cheapest room is 180k. Where do I get that from, where is fundamental human right ,

What does your landlord want?

Denique:
1. It is not always about being 'the most qualified' else we would have Princeton, Harvard scholars vying for the post. It's about fitting into the image they have created for you with the cabal backings of course.
Cabal isn't alien to The American politics. They are just more discreet than Africans–Nigerians especially.

2. Partly so. “The world is Female” mantra didn't originate from Nigeria. It's a movement and America feminists will always make a point in issues as this. Democrats know this better than Republicans.

3. She contested at a time her party had a tricky rating as they were incumbent, and despite that, she won the popular votes. In fact, Clinton got as many votes in 2016 as Barack Obama did in 2012.
Trump came into power through the Electoral college. Here's why the people call Trump a sore loser: The same system that made him president is what he terms inefficient because it didn't go his way this time.

4. Of course Americans are smart! You just present one to champion their cause and you are sure on your way to victory. More so, a person of colour. Sooner than projected, LGBT will have a shot at the presidency.

5. In the world of politics, no politician really cares. They give you a loaf of bread to take the bakery from you. Theirs is just more structured than ours.

1. She was obviously the most fitting

2. I agree the mantra did not start here. Do you think a Trump/ Kamala ticket would have won?

3. Trump is a typical human na. Something is wrong when it is against us.

4. Ok

5. O jasi

Would you have celebrated an Igbo vice President in Nigeria? Irrespective of the sex.

thorpido:
They do that.Usually the parents are counselled and they are given an explanation why they can't do the dedication.It is to serve as a deterrent.
They are usually given the opportunity to come for thanksgivings later.
An official from the church can still go to their house and dedicate the child.

Child dedication is dedicating the child to God abi?

Why don't the pastors let God decide not to accept the child?

thorpido:
You can't say to hell with the pastor.There are rules in Church(just as with any organisation).

Does not doing naming or dedication reverse the fornication committed or the child birthed?

Is that not an opportunity to call the parents and advise them to wed?

mabeni:
...refuses her to come do CHILD DEDICATION because it's against the rules and regulations of their Church but she could come do just THANKSGIVING.


Will it not be better for her to just forget the thanksgiving too than to go and ridicule herself?

Refused to name their child and refused to do dedication are two different things.

Anyways, the Pastor is religious not spiritual.

aroundtheearth:
1.First of all, Trump is no Christian.

2. As for Kamala, she's the first black woman, the first South Asian daughter of immigrants, and the first graduate of a historically Black university (Howard) to be sworn in as U.S.A's Vice President.

3. I would love to see a black woman become President one day, but this is a start. As far as racism goes, I doubt much will change, not unless structural systemic racism is changed at the supreme court level.

1. Tell that to the Nigerian Churches praying and fasting for their 'bro' in the Lord.

2. What did she achieve by herself before becoming the VP?

3. Never say never. Obama did it. Except you are saying they are prejudiced against a female president (White or Black).

BusinessCity:
You're bored.


First and foremost you wrote in a way that projected how you wanted different persons to be seen. Christian Trump Evil Biden Harris that

Learn to stay objective if you must write but pose like you have answers yet seek objective reasoning


You failed on this one. I recommend no sane rational discussions with you on this.


You're bored

Go do a refresher course on GST 101 to know uses of quotes.

sisisioge:
That's why they are a team, the number 1 gets put forward even though voters are voting for their stakes in the party. Eg, I love Osibanjo, so I vote Buhari so Oshy could win...very simple.

Do you think a Trump/ Kamala ticket would have won?

Denique:
In many ways, I tell you...

1. Being chosen as the first female vice to a president made it so. It's a first in the polity of almighty America. That counts for something!

2. On how she influenced the election...
I think she gave Biden the victory even though that is still being contested by most Republicans.

3. As a woman and one of colour too, considering America as a feminist nation, most votes will go in her favour just to make history.
Her initial presidential run was just to create the image. This was it all along!

4. The Democrats are wise! And as long as they keep fielding a female vice before having a female president of colour, I don't see Republicans coming back anytime soon.

Thanks for your feedback.
1. America and Democrats had Hilary Clinton contested against Trump. I want to believe she was picked because she was the most qualified/merited it.

2. Do you mean Democrats voted Biden because of Her?

3. Hmmmmm. Hilary did not win the last time. I think it is beyond just been a woman

4. Hmmmmm. I want to believe Americans are smarter than that when it comes to voting.

sisisioge:
1. Hmmmm...If you know the amount of work political team put together to win you wouldn't be inferring that she was "handed" the win. In fact, if you knew the amount of work wives(you know they don't have offices) of elected political office leaders put in, you wouldn't even dare attempt to undermine her success. Trust me, she did the work and merit the success.

2. By the way, why do you always sorta undermine the female wins sef ? Dont groom your daughters to walk in men's shadow fa ...women are doing wonders in high places now o. The glass ceiling kept crashing and by God it will one day completely give way

1. If Joe Biden lost, would Kamala Harris be VP?

2. Don't worry about my daughters. Refer to Disclaimer 2.