Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 9:56pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
traihit: I almost missed this brilliant piece. I've been arguing this out on a Whatsapp page with some intellectuals. I agree 100% with your piece. There is so much emphasis especially without any form of filtration, on the girl-child in Nigeria presently. There is increase in free educational opportunities for graduate and post graduate education for females generally than the males. Even in the North, international organizations are always putting up different programs on "educate the girl-child". Meanwhile, the boy child has been neglected. The higher percentage of boko-haram members is the boy child, almajiris, agberos and many more; these are neglected males who grow up to become greater nuisance to our dear country. They say that "when you educate a woman, you educate a nation" but yet, they've not taken it into consideration that the statement is truer for the males than the female. Boys are dropping out of schools faster in our environment now but there's nobody to recognize them. Nigeria as a country need to focus on ita own peculiar challenges and forget international problems, it's making us less focused on what's of most concern to us. Thanks I really agree with you. We need to start including the boys. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 9:44pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
MikBay: "Balance" is the passepartout.
the male child, the female child... both deserves equal privileqes, same attentions.
my wife would have my 101% approval to be the "president of a country" if she would know and acknowledqe her place with me. What's your wife place with you? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 9:42pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Masterclass32: This op is laden with enough sense.
The emphasis should be on the coperation of the genders, not on the rivalry as deluded feminists make it sound.
The real powers that push this feminist agenda know exactly the goal they want to achieve with it. The divorce rate in western countries is a testament to that. If u want to destroy the society, disorganize the family units first. Very true. Thanks |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 9:42pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
AlPeter: This is nothing but truth. good job bukatyne this write up is amazing. Thank you. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 8:44pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
MarieSucre: Nope it didn't. His comment did, and I have cleared him. if you have anything to add I would be interested. Well most women interested in getting to the top do not because they do not have the support system. There are husbands who outrightly frown at their wives going past a certain point. Some others don't care what you do as long as you perform 'your duties'. Some others actively encourage their wives to grow till they want. Mrs. Ibukun Awosika always emphasizes the need to get husbands to support wives. She understands that if the man is not onboard, there is only so much the wife can do. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 8:07pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
MarieSucre: What do you think? I am asking you. You mentioned it like something that bothered you. |
Family › Re: Lady Sues Father For Banning Her From Marrying Christian Boyfriend In Kaduna by bukatyne(f): 2:48pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
This story is strange to me.
As much as I want legal heterosexual lovers to have rights to be married, I don't think suing your parents to court over the matter is ideal. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 2:12pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
MarieSucre: If this is the case as you say, why is this phenomenon not observed in the upper echelons of our financial organisations. Are there also 75% female bank CEO's? You and I know the true answer. Why do you think there is a very low rate of female executives in the banking sector? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 1:13pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
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Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 1:12pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
khalids: I had to laugh at the emboldened. Can man really be relegated......The truth is whatever form of relegation that is perceived is one man put on himself.....
Only men can relegate men....the world is run by men (irrespective of the subtle manipulations that occurs in the background).....and in truth they dictate what happens to them........ Men can be relegated however, they will react by pulling out of society hence the MTGOW, red pillers and manosphere. We are also seeing men reject marriage or marrying later esp. in the West and even codedly in Nigeria. Also expect to see more baby mamaism on the rise. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:59pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Abbott: Glad this is coming from a lady. Thanks. What are your thoughts? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:58pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
toscolee: I'm at work presently, plus, frankly speaking, my intellectual capacity, regretfully, doesn't match yours and most of the rest....I will rather say little and learn more (laughing). If I hear. I am at home flexing today. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:57pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
majekdom2: I agree it originated from the West, I guess it was when there was an increase in teenage pregnancy. The girl child had always been empowered in the West. There are many innovations and inventions that are from the female gender, it wasn’t something new. I guess it was because perhaps the girl child started relaxing, just like many males are relaxing now. Just like religion and feminism, concepts like these will always be “bastardized” in this part of the world. Poverty being a major reason Hmmmm. OK o. This is a fresh perspective. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:55pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
DookShop: Very interesting read from Bukatyne. Thank you. What are your thoughts? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:52pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Pharoh: This is a very nice write up and the message is well understood as i on my own have been trying to advice some of this women empowerment movement about the possible problems they might create in the future. We are trying to come out from centuries of over emphasizes on men and instead of going about it in a reasonable way, we are trying to solve the problem by overemphasizing on women today.
We can see what the one child policy caused china because most parents preferred male children if they were to have only one child. My fear is that one day we will empower all the women and find out that there are no corresponding male to match them with. We should focus on helping both with varying strategies for different localities as we are not all on the same page when it comes to women. There are cultural, religious and exposure bias to this topic so the same strategy is not applicable for say Lagos and katsina state.
This is a needed topic and hope those in the relevant authorities can pick ideas from the discussion. Thanks a lot. I totally agree with you especially in different strategy per culture/location. The future won't be fine if we keep up this way. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:50pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
samguru: My sister,I know you are highly opinionated on the gender equality and that is the reason I am not on the same page with you but I strongly believe my submission is explicit enough. My brother, I hear you. We sha both agree that men are to be more reckoned with. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:28pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
toscolee: Op is not 'some nairaland men'. She's a lady...one with depth. Thanks for the accolades. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:27pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
majekdom2: It seems over emphasized in the poor regions of the world. Poverty is a situation that needs to be tackled for a balance to exist. Remember that all these celebrations originated from the West and adopted by us. I don't think tackling of poverty will solve the situation. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:25pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
[quote author=toscolee post=72166298][/quote]Thank you. Bet why?  That whole epistle for a two-lined response. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:24pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
hush15: Ofcourse its overrated.
The other day while i was listening to radio, they said "Feed a boy, you feed one person. Feed a girl and you a nation", i was so irritated. Thats chauvinistic.
Thats not true, basically, male are the life givers not the other way round, how could one think like that but what do i know. i respect and love women but i would never be a party downplaying a man to either gain appeal or feel appreciate. Men should be even celebrated equally if not more than women cos since begin of life, man has and will never be relegated.
If the bible be anything it stands for, Woman is created for the man, not equally or the other way but for the man. funny enough, not even for God, going by the scripture. However, i do not say this to encourage maltreatment or disrespect women however we need to get it right. Women are just over celebrated I know it used to be 'teach a girl and you teach a nation' because girl grow into mothers whom they believe have a lot of influence on their children. The rest of your post made me laugh. I agree in principle with you; men shouldn't be relegated or their importance undermined. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:19pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
samguru: The advocacy for girl child started when women began to observe that the female gender was naturally perceived to be inferior to male gender, and the girl child advocates have been projecting the gender equality wrongly. These advocates who are virtually female over time turned out to be feminists in their drive to over project it.
The role of a girl child in the world has been clearly defined by God,that is when she becomes a woman, she is to support her husband and produce children,be socially responsible and nothing more, but feminism has redefined these and kept on pushing beyond gender equilibrium.
In the olden days,girl child was trained to be a home manager only and to be submissive to the dictates of her husband but now,the feminists want more education,more responsibilities,more power to a girl child thinking that a boy child has been empowered enough by the virtue of his gender.
If a research can be conducted on the history of divorce,I can confidently tell you that, it started when this advocacy began to shoot limelight and since then, the rate of divorce has been astronomical.
As it were,the gospel was so strong that some women don't drop their father's name again rather will include their husbands' names at the end of their father's name after marriage. Infact, Women are not afraid to stand shoulder to shoulder with their husbands to slug it with their husband thinking they are equal.
The Society should slow down girl child advocacy and try to balance it up with a boy child advocacy. We are not on same page here o. You are coming from a point of men & women are not equal; I am coming from the point that they are and should behave so. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:16pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
emperooooooooor: The truth will continue to be the truth regardless of how many people believe it to be true. This write-up right here is nothing but the truth though it is very subtle and takes an open and well educated mind to dissect and digest. My fear is that the uneducated or wrongly indoctrinated feminists and misogynists will come up here and start spewing rubbish about the write-up without carefully examining the writer's submission. Nice write up @ bukatyne Thank you. Hopefully, the message is understood by most readers. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:15pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Eketem: This is how women loose it, always emotional instead of being factual, pick out the issues you feel is wrong with the post and debate it rationally instead of declaring it jealousy.
The poster said and I agree from practice that most of these advocacy cannot be done by alienating men, I remember when Senator Abaribe worked so hard on the gender equality bill and pushed it even there were women in the Senate, what happened in the end? He gave an interview to support the bill and was talking about the amendments they will make to ensure the bill sails through next time, The Newspaper took one sentence out of context, Thats how the same women he was pushing a bill for didn't read the full story and started attacking him, insulted him from heaven to he'll, this was a man who was in the fore front of pushing this bill oh, I think after that he took his hands off, till today no woman in the Senate has bothered to reintroduce the bill Thank you. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:12pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Tinalex: Hmmmnnn...how I wish the old generation parents that destroyed our men could read this. At least women of today 85% now understand why men should be further schooled/ tutored like the girl child....Congrafs to the upcoming married women in a decade time....they are just too lucky Hahaha at new generation women are lucky. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:12pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
mrMeen: I have been waiting for a thread like this for ages. Oya the thread is here. What are/were your plans? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:10pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
anukulapo: Interestingly, men realized they needed the support of women and engineered them to provide that support. We women are behaving like we can do it alone which is why it seems progress is slow.
@ bukatyne -- You've spoken well, in my opinion. Thank you. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:10pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
pocohantas: Nice thread. I think it all started when the girl child was at extreme disadvantage. Which I honestly do not think is the norm in the average Nigerian home, recently.
My dad for example was the one that had to drop out from school and hustle, for his sisters to continue.
On that Girl Child Day, I asked my friend. "While this is a good cause, is the average girl child denied education?". Except in some really backward and misogynistic societies, do most enlightened parents actually deny their daughters education and all?"
There should be a balance in all. Focus too much on the girl, ignoring the boy. Same girl would be stuck with the deficient boy. The cycle continues. At last paragraph: Couldn't be more apt. Thanks. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:08pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Sapphire11: Women just love to view themselves as a VICTIM of whatever And the constant celebration of the girl child over the boy child, will in years put a stop to the VICTIMIZATION of girls-future women I suppose. I don't think it would. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:07pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Alexk2: Can't agree less. boys need as much monitoring and care as girls. advocate should be for children as a whole cos we must get it right with them for a better future. Very true. |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:07pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Boyooosa: Let's live the way God/Nature has it! How? |
Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:07pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
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Family › Re: Over Emphasis On The Girl Child. by bukatyne(op): 12:05pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
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