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BABE3:
can you address the 12 MALE disciples situation? why Mathew and Markk? Why not a Vickybee and Bukatyne?

and you do realize the creation of woman was an afterthought? "It's not cool for a man to be alone, let's make someome that looks like him out of his rib".

if God was a feminist he would have created adam and eve in the same second.


I know it's hard for a modern day Christian to accept the fact that God and jesus are sexist. So you try your best possible to manipulate and twist facts until you're comfortable with your lies.

The hierarchy in the bible from genesis to revelation is
--MAN
--woman
-- animals

even in.marraige
- jesus
-husband
-wife
-kids

BABE3:
don't mind these people trying to paint jesus as a feminist.
every single man then was sexist. It wasn't a sin or crime. The woman's place was in the kitchen. That was the modus operandi.

Jesus was NOT a feminist! I read somewhere that jesus is the unchangeable changer. So therefore, the feminist wave didn't affect jesus or God. He still isn't a feminist! He's still very much sexist.

howardriddle:
Dear Son,

I’ve been watching you closely for the past few days with admiration. I must admit that I’m proud of you.
Looking at you reminds me of my days also. Days when we were young with the free-est bloods in the world flowing. When all that we did was tied down to the women folk.

Son, that time is here again in my life and I see it pass through you. In time past, some of my friends lived life like there’s no tomorrow. I can’t guarantee you that it’s well with them today just because of the kind of women they blended with.
Like I’m saying to you, my father once told me, watch every woman closely before befriending especially if you want to make her a wife. Try to get to know her mother. If she fits your taste at an old age, your lady will suit you when she’s old.

Not always true. The son should also look at the woman's father. A terrible husband will make a saint bitter

Fear girls that are between the ages of 15 to 23. They no get sense. I repeat, “them no get sense” although they looking beautiful. That beauty is what they mostly can give and it ends there. If you don’t believe me, take a look at your sister. In the house, she acts normal but outside, she’s a cat and anything running through her mind.

Depends on the type of 15 - 23 you meet. 15 - 17 is young though. Some ladies are married at that age

Even when you find the woman of your dreams, never you let her know you all. Give her your best. The spirit of see finish is stronger in women than in men. When she feels she’s seen all of you, she’ll press and spoil that “mumu button” found.

How can you give a woman your best and still not let her know you? I will say get a woman you can show your all


My dear son, there’s a spirit roaming about in women known as feminism. If you don’t want to end up with a broken home, run away from feminist-women. That spirit calls for equality, equity and related jargons. It allows for a man to cook and wash plates, provide for the wife, go to the market, and also allows a woman to come back late from work, to go visit her friends anytime she wants (even male friends) etc. Don’t fall for that. In as much as it allows for all, it doesn’t allow you relate with your female friends like she does to men. Questioning anything she does calls for break up or divorce even if you have 12 kids.

I guess ill behaved men see 'equality' as bad because they do not want their wives to behave same way to them. Like how a lot of employers would cringe if their employees decide to treat them same way. I do not see anything wrong or abominable in a husband tending to house chores.

A woman coming late from work: I do not think it is in the power of the husband to decide when the woman comes back home. Her type of job and distance makes that decision.

A woman visiting friends: a normal couple discuss their itinerary to know how to tweak plans. A woman who wants to visit her female friends would have notified the husband forehand and vice versa. @male friends: depends on the relationship. I do not think it should be a frequent occurrence. I do not encourage a married woman visiting males friends and married men visiting female friends.

Questioning? meaning? I will take it to mean correction. Correction in love is always welcomed and needed on both ends.

My guy-no gree!
Use your head to understand your woman. Build up a mind set that she’ll lie to you anytime. When she does, keep your cool. Don’t raise your voice.
A woman when asked will tell you she’s dated “just” two men. Na lie many of them dey talk. If they dated just two, what’s their body count? A woman will date over 16 men, sleep around and be popular like a campaign slogan, yet will tell you, I’ve had sex with my ex only. People change that I know but if you marry her, you’ve married an ashewo and you know what they say, “ashewo wey marry, na holiday she go.”

I doubt men flaunt their body count to their wives/girls too so it is a 'lie' that goes both ways. I do not also think that it is only women who has the capacity to lie.

When you find a virgin, value her. Keep her till your wedding day and pop the cherry. If you opened her up before marriage, be a man in her life- although, she might behave like a goat along the way- she’ll find her way back. When she comes back, teach her a lesson but don’t hate her and don’t make her regret coming back.

Your woman behave like a goat? ok o

Don’t feel good collecting anything from a woman. She’ll use it against you one day. When you are down and can’t do a thing, find a way to survive. Men have a special way of surviving no matter how bad the situation.

Considering the fact women are advised to learn how to support their men, ...


Never you hit a woman

Never argue with her

Never cry or show signs of weakness

Laugh moderately and frown moderately

Don't show weakness, Laugh moderately? Frown moderately? LOL! Keep stifling your life while she enjoys hers to the fullest! LOL! That's if she even notices you.


You can engage a woman with 10 rings and she’ll still cheat. Have a mind set that anything is possible. I’ve seen bright men brought to ruins because they didn’t expect a woman to let them down. The downfall is so enormous that they can’t rise again. Don’t let that happen to you. When she’s with you, she’s your girlfriend. If she’s not, she’s our girlfriend.

I believe trust is very important in a relationship. Cheating in relationship is also a two way thing


Finally son, don’t be in a hurry to have sex with a woman. Some women are there as destiny helpers. It’s easier for an ex you never slept with to help you than a woman who has children for you. Befriend anything you want; tall, short, plump, thin, lean, wide, open, sharp, curved, etc but don’t be in a hurry to fill them up. You might date the president’s next wife and she could help you some day.

I agree

Always remember that you are a man and that the world will try to substitute the role play of a man but can’t. Women will scream whatever right but don’t forget that it’s part of what makes them women.

Start learning to love, control and provide for your sisters and a wife won’t be hard to for you to handle.
Goodluck!

Your Chauvinistic Dad/male rights promoter
Daddy Beevan Magoni

culled: http://naijasinglegirl.com/letter-to-my-son/


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Immaangel:
"Clara! Clara!!!". "Yes dear" Clara replied from the bathroom, it was a sunday noon and they had just returned from church. Clara is dressed in her bath dress and was about stepping into the warm bath tub when she heard her name exclaimed so loud that it echoed in the big duplex!
She hurried down the stair ways in her pink fluffy bath slips and met Michael standing akimbo. The sweat glands on his face were activated and eyelids half closed.
"I want an explanation for that" he said as he pointed his ring finger on his right hand towards Clara's apple tablet lying on the couch. She stepped on the rugged section of the living room and made for the tablet, clicked the large screen and a message popped up. She read it out loud
"Hello dearI sincerely wanna thank you 4 the gift you brought on saturday. You made my day and it was fantastic having you around. You r such a darling... Thank you"
"Clara who the hell was that?!!! ANSWER ME!!!!"
She almost jumped out of her skin at that tone. She had never seen him like this or get this pissed! "Errm...I ... No darling, its... Its not... No, its not what you think... Actually, I errm dropped some gifts for Sesan on saturday for his birthday and I helped around in the kitchen with the other guests. That's all. Honey trust me.. Its not ..."
Before she could make the rest of the statement , Michael grabbed the flower vase and it went in the air and ..... Rented into pieces on Clara's forehead... She went down... ..
... Fainted
... Michael ran towards her and grabbed her "honey! Cla.. Sweedie, I don't mean it. Pleas wake up". He got the car key, carried her, and she awoke at...... Cymberline Hospital in the outskirt of oakland avenue.
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ACTION POINT.
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1. Michael should see a therapist and should be helped with "anger management techniques in marriages"
2. Its possible from the story that Clara didn't get to know Michael well enough b4 marriage. You can tell from the lines up there "she has never seen him like this". And she was muttering outta shock to tell you that she is in shock to see michael this way.
3. As for the message. Tho, Clara is innocent and wasn't cheating. Men, please understand that, even after marriage, men will still approach your wife with all manners of advances, you just have to keep calm and understand , this is why TRUST and HONESTY are essential ingredients in love.
(Leave your suggestions please)

damiso:
Each to his own indeed.

However as I said in my intial post 'sadness' and 'happiness' are highly subjective and fluid states of mind/terms. There was one research that said Nigerians are the happiest people on earth but one week day in Idumota or Oshodi after having been harassed by car par touts and thoroughly insulted by the angry women who feels you disrupted her biscuit stall that was on the pavement that is meant for walking might leave you wondering where all the happy people are However go to a typical owambe on a Saturday and seeing people dance shoki like their lives depended on it would make you see the truth in that revelation .

Mynd44:
I wish I had half the time to reply the so called rebuttal but considering whoever lifted that did it without permission and the genius who wrote the rebuttal did not see the sense (semi serious) nature of the article leaves much to imagination. So much for intelligence these days.

Arguing on NL these days have proven to be a waste of time and most people just don't get it.

*takes another drag of weed*

damiso:
You are right.

But we need research to progress civilization sha. A lot of advancements that have been made in the world today is down to research.

Scientific and technological research is a bit more conclusive. The social sciences/arts is a bit more open ended. Some 'researches'( especially if funded by a certain lobby group) tend to support the ideology of those who commissioned it . If a liberal left wing group /a conservative right wing group carry out research on a certain topic more often than not the conclusion on the same issue is always vastly different. e.g. If the Daily W(M)ail carries out research on Immigration, it would say immigrants are a drain on UK infrastructure and if The Guardian Carries out a similar one they would say that Immigrants bring a net benefit to the Uk economy.

So sometimes I dey use one kain eye look at some research.

EfemenaXY:


Na who dey laugh? Me? Or babyosisi?



That is eh, it was the craziest statement on this thread!

@Chillisauce: Please come back and kick some life into this inspirational thread. Don't just let it fade away na...

Kimoni. Edwife. Babe3. Herzumpther. Cococandy. Moca. Bukatyne. And all you beautiful ladies on the keep fit healthy journey. Please come back na.

ijebubabe:
you made the right choice.

i was once in a similar situation but in my case, he didnt offer me to set me up in a business or offer me a job. he just believed that i would get a good job the second i landed in nigeria (a country with a very high rate of unemployment).

he wanted me to quit my high paying job, move to Nigeria and remain jobless. what he earned in a month, i earned in a week. guess what i did, i gave him the middle finger and i moved on.

so your man wanted you to operate a 'chemist shop' which is stupid as you are not a registered pharmacist and you cannot dispense drugs.

some men are just destiny killers, jealous and scared of successful women

lezz:
Of course,men are happy with a family and wife. In fact, the average wants a happy, stable family. Nowhere in my post did I say men do not want a family or aren't happy with one.


Men just aren't fulfilled with kids and family; that is, family and kids is more like the icing in the cake. Unlike the female he is an adventurer, a hunter driven by testosterone to dominate, conquer and to explore in the quest for glory, power and status. Therein lies his ultimate happiness and fulfilment.


In the same way, money, fame and status still give women the thrill but ultimately, she's very unlikely to be happily fulfilled without her kids and a nice home

Women do not spend all their time pursuing glory like so many men, they want to be home with their kids, look beautiful and soft. That's why even though men make much more money than women, women have more pairs of shoes and jewellery than men. Women also spend more shopping time than men.

When I say women, I mean the vast majority of NORMAL women. No one can claim to speak for every single members of the sexes
. After all, some are lesbians, feminists, She-men and subnormal having gender identity crisis

Uniquexty:
Abi na... hehehehe

damiso:
Yes the premise was that females tend to feel more at ease talking about their feelings,share (over share sef )their hurts,trials and issues with others (both on a personal and professional level) than men who feel they need to put up a 'tough macho ' front even though they are suffering inside. Women also generally tend to seek professional help with depression than men.


I know researches are not necessarily always the reflection of wider society or life or exhaustive.But think this one is kinda true.Personally I know more young men who have committed suicide than young women. I don't think a truly happy person will be suicidal so that's I said there was a tad bit of over generalisation in the OP.

AreaFada2:
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Amina,
It's just that lots of women don't wanna see that we men are getting fed up with all the fake accessories: fake hair, fake bra, fake bum etc.
Many guys just want it natural, dig it?

But we dare not tell our ladies because they'd would say we don't appreciate they put in to look good.

You can look good and be simple. Without layers of make-up & foundation running into a metre deep!

damiso:
Funny enough I am watching a documentary right now that is based on research that says more young men suffer from depression and are 3 times more likely to commit suicide than females their age.The study reckons that because society tends to programme men not to talk about feelings or emotions they tend to internalise hurt and that is why they are more suicidal.

'Happiness' is a very vague and fleeting concept so I would say the there might be a tad bit of generalisations.That said though modern life with all its technological advancements in making life easier also has its attendant stresses esp in the west. You should have seen me panicking when I thought I would be unable to pick my son on time this evening.I am sure my blood pressure went up a notch If it was the old days we would be at the farm together or there would be a horde of relatives who would pick him up for me. And that is for someone who is married to a hands on man.

All in all except for the subset of women for whom career is EVERYTHING(and I am not saying that's a bad thing) work life balance is the key.And I think work life balance is essential for everyone not just women.

Uniquexty:
Yeaa, am hanging on. Its very difficult especially when the guy moves on and begins flaunting a new girl. It makes me feel like the past years was a dream

lezz:
No human emotional state is static. There are periodic swift changes. The time lag is of importance here between the state of one emotional condition to anpther. Even menstrual circles alter the emotional state most women.lol


That being said happiness is a state of being as the most predominant state of a persons entire given emotion. It's akin to the state of contentment, of the fulfilment of an inner fulfilment of an oblique task as old as life itself. My happiness is akin to fulfilment

That's why I said happiness for men and women are very different. A man is wired inherently to be aggressive , to produce , to get power, to control resources. So he founded towns and cities and countries and civilizations and technologies. And the feminist say it's because of social conditioning and cultural vote. But they can't back it up with science. Men can therefore come into a LONGER. phase of happiness in his entire life time if he achieved these to a varying degree. He will come to a sense of fulfilment of having achieved his unexplainable life-goal.



Women on the other hand will achieve these,if they can, in career and income and within a the shortest time realize they aren't happy, they will not get an answer to the nagging question of her natural, biological purpose; she will be unfulfilled, empty and without a sense of purpose, a little man.

She will soon find out that all she ever needed have been deposited in her by nature and she was just too intelligent to use it.

Her "illiterate" counterparts who have followed their inner feelings will look younger, fresher and get more love from their husband and children.


What's your notion of a long term state of fulfilment for the modern woman?

lezz:
Academic intelligence doesn't necessary equate into wisdom.

The male dominant homone, testosterone drives men into pioneers, explorers, inventors, founders, upholders, nourishers and protectors . This homone is very little in women.

In actual danger, a woman looks up to male for guidance and instructions, even if that male happens to be an adolescent

craziebone:
hmm, i see you are getting desperate now. I think you should quit with the head-start argument.

In ancient Athens, equal priority was given to both men and women education. Infact, the modern education equality that has been codified in western education of today is simply a copy-cat from the Athenian education. But in Greece or Athens, the men still went on ahead to dominate intellectualism. When you think Greece, the like of Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras etc are the ones that come to mind. This is despite the fact that the girl child education was given equal attention by their society.

At the begining of formal education in Europe (when i say Europe, i mean we should excluded the romans and the greeks), access to education was more classist rather than sexist. Rich women got access to education more than the ordinary man got! And that means they were more educated than the average man.

No, i do not believe that there are courses women should not take up. I have always being in favour of "let everyone do what they want to do". What i am against is the forcing of women into courses they just do not find fulfiling, on the average and you take slots from men and giving them to women simply because they are women. Although that doesn't happen here in Nigeria, but it does happen around the world. I am also against the shaming of other women who just do not want the so-called empowerment the feminist folk want to shove down their throat. And by empowerment, i mean taking up 'positions of power' when the woman actually wants something else.

First, I agree that women should not be handed down courses in the spirit of equality. Like you rightly observed, this doesnot happen in Nigeria; it is more of parents forcing their kids to read a course

@empowerment: how many people are in 'positions of power' or how many positions are gotten to by force or cohesion? Can an unwilling woman be pushed to become the Branch Manager of a bank? I am even trying to start small here.

I believe everyone is designed to do different things and we are to follow through with that. A cleaner in the Church is as important as a teacher... everyone has different gifts.

I think feminism should be about giving women a choice and that means, if she wants to be a SAHM (stay at home mom), so be it! But feminists go about shaming such women and telling them that it was better they did not waste tax payer money in the first place by getting an education in the first place. They say this as if education is first of all about getting a job rather than a better relationship with nature. Thr likes of you, Bukatyne and stillfire are the ones who get angry at women who go to school and refuse to take up a career. Again, that's a shallow way to look at education; that it is for getting a job.

And somehow this choice does not extend to a woman becoming a career woman if she wants to? Or does this choice only go one way? I said I would be angry if you know a woman does not fit a role and still train her for that role. E.g. if I believe a woman should not be a banker or I have influence over what my daughter would be in future, would it not be strange I train her through university in Banking and Finance? One way to look at it is that people who want to study competitive courses should ensure they are willing to utilize it. Another way to look at it is that not everyone would have the opportunity to utilize it even if they want to. Using Nigeria as a case study... A lot of people do not get to practice what they learnt

Lastly, men have always had the choice to pick a woman who suits them for a wife. But the problem is...when most men refuse to pick a woman with a strong drive for work and career, they are termed weak, insecure and intimidated by a strong, independent and successful woman. People who shame men this way deny that a man can have an option. And as a result, we see men, who ordinarily wouldn't go for a 'successful' woman due to the simple and innocent fact that they are just not compatible, go for such women and the end result is a pathetic marriage.

The bottom line is, stop shaming men who do not want a 'successful' woman. It may not be that he is intimidated, but that he just wants a particular kind of home.

If a man goes for a woman who is not his choice, then he is not ready for marriage ditto a woman too. I also do not believe this is applicable to the Nigerian setting. Men have married whom they wanted from time immemorial.

The only issue I would have is if a man marries a certain woman and tries to mold her into his taste after marriage

bukatyne:
@ bold:
Whose post is this?

craziebone:
haha! This is strawman arguement my dear, especially with the tubman example.

I didn't mean that women are incapable of something sublime, of course they are! There are countless examples of women who have actually done alot to advance intellectualism and the world has benefited from their work so much. I can even add to your list if you want me to.

What i was trying to drive home is that women are generally (and when i say generally, i mean on the average) are not relaxed by subjects like Physics, mathematics and philosophy. Hence the natural low number of women in those area. Dora, though a pharmacist, is not known for inventing any drug really. She is known more with chairing an organization that was highly effective in combating fake drugs. Her achievements are more in the area of management rather than pharmacy, her chosen proffession. But feminism came up and because it is more concerned about elitism and man jealousy, it decided to push women into areas that just do not relax them.

Today, even though women make up a large part of stem courses and sometimes are best graduating students in those courses, their overall contribution to the advancement of the field is still very very low.

Also, it is important to note that the work for which Marie Curie is known, she did it together with a man, her husband. They were both awarded the Nobel Prize in chemistry for their pionering work in radioactivity.

So no! The arguement doesnt go both ways.

NB: Dora's excellecnce at NAFDAC was inspired by her personal story. The fight against fake drugs was personal to her. She needed an extra push to trigger her inovative skills. Einstein did not need a very personal extra push to come up with his theory of relativity. The extra push he had was the basic extra push men have always had that inspired them to be great explorers, innovators and patriachs. That extra push is just simple curiousity.

craziebone:
if you decide to deliberately misunderstand or dliberately put words in my mouth, well that's your cancer!!!

Where exactly did i insinuate that her achievement do not count just because she worked with her husband?

Nigger, i am science inclined and you cannot begin to understand the extent to which i appreciate scientific concepts and theories as well as those who first made us to know them.

I am not the one putting so much emphasy on the STEMs. Infact, i believe that i brought up philosophy somewhere. Feminists are the ones who place so much importance on the STEMs. Your comerade, stillfire, is one of such.

cococandy:
tell me how you made it pls

fem29:
Hmmm so you went through to be or not to be. I'm firmly in that stage right now and I just can't see how I'll get out of it, I'm kinda fed up

craziebone:
haha! This is strawman arguement my dear, especially with the tubman example.

I didn't mean that women are incapable of something sublime, of course they are! There are countless examples of women who have actually done alot to advance intellectualism and the world has benefited from their work so much. I can even add to your list if you want me to.

What i was trying to drive home is that women are generally (and when i say generally, i mean on the average) are not relaxed by subjects like Physics, mathematics and philosophy. Hence the natural low number of women in those area. Dora, though a pharmacist, is not known for inventing any drug really. She is known more with chairing an organization that was highly effective in combating fake drugs. Her achievements are more in the area of management rather than pharmacy, her chosen proffession. But feminism came up and because it is more concerned about elitism and man jealousy, it decided to push women into areas that just do not relax them.

Today, even though women make up a large part of stem courses and sometimes are best graduating students in those courses, their overall contribution to the advancement of the field is still very very low.

Also, it is important to note that the work for which Marie Curie is known, she did it together with a man, her husband. They were both awarded the Nobel Prize in chemistry for their pionering work in radioactivity.

So no! The arguement doesnt go both ways.

NB: Dora's excellecnce at NAFDAC was inspired by her personal story. The fight against fake drugs was personal to her. She needed an extra push to trigger her inovative skills. Einstein did not need a very personal extra push to come up with his theory of relativity. The extra push he had was the basic extra push men have always had that inspired them to be great explorers, innovators and patriachs. That extra push is just simple curiousity.