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[quote author=pastor prosper ]@ candour. Jesus said any sin against the holy spirit would not be forgiven, remember he said this after pharisees accussed him of being possessed by devils.thing is when u lnjustly criticise a man of God u are not just criticising him but also d spirit that operates tru him. That's because such talk cld amount to blasphemy. Now pls read Hebrews 6:4-6, also see Jude :8-18.[/quote]No one should accuse any man unjustly, Not only Pastors. Every Christian is equal before God. No man called a pastor is superior to any other member of the body of Christ. The holy Spirit is in me like he is in whoever calls himself a pastor so pls stop placing a pastor on any superior platform. It's unbiblical.

God is NOT a grand father. i am a child of God just like any Christian who calls himself a pastor or bishop. If you're a pastor, be grateful that God saw you worthy to hold that office. It's not a license to start lording it over other Christians. Also stop using hell to threaten Christians who disagree with you. You're NOT the record keeper in heaven. God alone knows all who truly serve him.

See what Paul said

1Cor 1:24
'Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand'

If the apostle Paul, as mighty as he was in ministry didn't lord it over his converts, NO pastor has or should be allowed to exercise that right. If a pastor is going astray, be honest enough to organize yourselves together and call him to order before he leads you all into destruction.

Wish you the best.

Bye

[quote author=pastor prosper ]@ candour, u are a case of ignorance gone on rampage. Read my posts carefully and help yourself, study your bible properly and stop advertising your ignorance in public. I addressed your ignorance in several replies I made. So read and help yourself.[/quote]You are the ignorant one my friend.

Are you tired of issuing your threats of hell?

Keep displaying your shallow knowledge of God and the holy scriptures

[quote author=pastor prosper ]My dear brother u are a case of ignorance gone on rampage. Read my post carefully and help yourself if heaven means anything to you. Well! U call my admonishions threats! *lol* I have only told u what d bible said, pls read d following scriptures. 1thessalonians 5:12-13, 1Timothy 5:17.[/quote]1Thess 5:12-13
'And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labor among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you:13.And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake.And be at peace among yourselves'

1Tim 5:17
'Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially they who labor in word and doctrine'

Those are the 2 references you mentioned. Can you pls get a binoculars and point out where you see UNPARDONABLE SIN written in both?

You should go back ans start your bible learning afresh my dear. You know little or nothing about Christianity.

You come using Miriam case to put fear in the hearts of Christians to pretend when they see evil in the congregation of God and you call that admonish?

If we are to follow this theory, Rev King would be roaming free today, Rev Jim Jones would have received an award if not for his death, the pastors of Movement for restoration of ten commandments in Uganda will be walking free today or are these your examples of elders that rule well that the bible asked us to honor?

If you're a pastor and you tell your flock this, then you're an example of a wolf in sheep's clothing that Christ warned us about. See you talking like the key of heaven has been put in your custody. Keep deceiving yourself and those that believe in you.

You need to repent from your deception and ask God for forgiveness

Mee234: okay. they exhort you to give; they don't just call it tithe.

Yes.

It's that simple

Mee234: I see, where do he/she attend? And which denomination doesn't preaching giving of any kind?

Dont worry.

I'm sure he'll be here to answer that in person but i'm yet to hear of a denomination that doesn't preach giving of any kind.

Mee234: Coming from someone who attend a denomination that is notorious for collecting not just ten percent of member's salary but any amount even if the member have to embezzle is quite iluminating

Actually my bro, Christemmbassey doesn't attend CEC

His handle just makes it look like he does

@OKIJA JUJU, plenty truth in what you wrote up there.

However, we all must try to help our kids. If you lose your language, you lose your cultural identity.

That our kids can't speak our native languages is nothing to be proud of . I remember how my Dad insisted on my siblings and i speaking and writing in our native tongues. Infact i particularly was always forced to write letters to grandma and grandpa in the village in our language. It looked like Dad was wicked then, but now when i speak in the midst of my uncles and other elders, i do it even spiced with deep proverbs Make person no go lose him identity sake of civilisation.

I'm trying my best with my kids now but it's not easy with 24hr DSTV and all the children channels on it. Got a rude shock when i came back after a trip sometime ago and my 5 year old daughter greeted me in Spanish courtesy of words she picked up watching 'Handy Manny' and 'Dora the explorer' on Disney junior

From that day, i made sure she greets me in my language while kneeling down to do it. I am trying to expand the scope because it will not be a good thing if she needs an interpreter when she takes a trip to the village.

Na only God fit help us.

Elantracey: [i][/i] am not joinin anybody ah ve my bible n the holy spirit who teaches us all things if ah should get confused of anytin ...

Congrats my sister on this knowledge.

I wish the OP could also try learn to read the bible properly before spewing nonsense on a public forum

cheers and God bless you

Elantracey: If u read wat he posted again n wel u will see dat it's not a threat but an advice ..

You're wrong dear. Read it again, It's a veiled threat coming from a person lacking basic knowledge of the scriptures.

I'm sure you know you have the Holy Spirit in you as well if you're truly a Christian? If you do, then you should know all he did up there was twist the bible to Lie against God.

You can him in his full 'glory' threatening hell because i 'dared' to expose his ignorance of the bible

Pls dont join him in his charade and full fledged ignorance.

[quote author=pastor prosper ]Well its a pity. Hell fire awaits you.[/quote]Is that all you can come up with? You dont have any bible verse to quote? So all you can do is threaten people?

Are you the porter in hell that take people to their apartments there?

You are even more pathetic than i thought.

Christians on Nairaland are too knowledgeable and exposed to the word to be swayed by your threats.

Take them elsewhere

noblefada: Well I'll just pop my head into this tithing issue, I've deliberately avoided it for a very long time because it's a waste of time n this not a forum for brethren to fighting against each other.
That being said, @Goshen I admire your consistent n passion to put forth the truth about tithe, the tenacity u've showed to ensure the word prevails. But as for this ur exposition, I dnt think u got it right on d devourer stuff, because the locusts n insects were figurative and whatever u might say is defeated by the Use of HE and not IT which of course is consistent with the provision of the law.
That being said, are xtians suppose to pay tithe according to the law? NO! a very big No at that.
See we don't need a grandeur exposition or an endless theological thesis to know xtians are not suppose to pay tithes. A simple study on Grace (of which tithing totally negates) n study of the new testament will reveal it. Let me say this, the early gentiles did not know anything called tithes, not from Jesus or the Apostles, even in the Acts 15 account, tithes were not one of the instructions to gentiles.

You're right to a very large extent brother.

If only Christian leaders will display a little honesty, this tithe issue does not need a lengthy argument at all because it's so clear. How can Tithe be for Christians, yet none of the apostles mentioned it in any of their epistles except the epistle to the HEBREWS? and even then it was to show how inferior the Aaronic priesthood was to the High priesthood of Christ.

Holy Communion was mentioned by Christ and further emphasized by Paul.

Prayer was mentioned by Christ and emphasized by the apostles

Baptism was mentioned by Christ and mentioned by the apostles

Giving to the poor, providing for evangelists needs was mentioned by Christ and also by the apostles

Christ mentioned it in his tirade against the pharisees because it was their law. Why did he forget to do so when he was teaching his disciples? then the apostles also left it out even when they decided on what commandments to give Paul for the Gentiles in Acts 15?

It wasn't mentioned because it's not of grace. Even the Catholic church that imported it into Christianity 550 years after the birth of the Jerusalem church has since abandoned it as a doctrine because they know it negates the gospel of Grace and they now emphasize freewill giving.

Pentecostal Pastors refuse to give it up because they know it's a cash cow and the ones in Nigeria capitalize on the dire economic situation to further impoverish people through fear by quoting Mal 3:8-12 even when they know it wasn't talking to Christians or even the generality of Israel for that matter.

@Goshen, weldone. Not sure i could have had the time or energy to do what you just did.

It is indeed well

[quote author=pastor prosper ]According to the bible people who speak ill of the church and even ill of men of God are committing the unpardonable sin. Jesus said, any sin committed against the holy spirit can not be forgiven, remember the holy spirit has no physical body he indwells men and ues them.so anyone who criticizes men he indwells are actuallly criticising the holy spirit, even king David admonishes us to touch not the annoited and do his prophet no harm, he said this in relation to an annoited yet mean king who sought to kill him, if u are still in doubt then see Miriam who became leprose by criticising Moses over an obvious wrong. Some persons are anti Christs, those of u who follow them pls be careful. A word is enough for the wise. The only person who advocated that rather than offering be brought to the church why not such moneys be given to the poor ended up a Judas, a betrayer of jesus, u so called holier than thou folks who are advocating that churches should stop building and rather the moneys be given to poor people I want to remind you of the words of jesus. " the poor you will always have with you" ...." give to ceasar what is ceasar's and to God what is God's, besides if these churches don't help poor people how on earth do u think they got to where they are today. I know countless persons who are beneficiaries of bishop oyedepo's scholarship largesse. we don't broadcast our good deeds because jesus demands of us not to. The only thing people see are the results of the good deeds: private jets, multyi billion naita projects, fancy suits etc, if u do what these men of God did u will get their results shikena.[/quote]The bolded part of your post shows how shallow your understanding of scripture is. You call yourself a pastor threatening people with unpardonable sin, yet you are ignorant of the fact that we are under grace and all Christians saved by grace have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them.

1Cor 3:16
'Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?'

Was that verse referring to pastors alone or all Christians?

Pls take your threats else where and go start your bible study afresh. You know little or nothing about Christianity.

Gombs: If you can't write down your church, pls don't derail this thread. Thank u

i'm only felicitating with you on your sure victory

dont worry, i'll be cheering you on by the side

let me predict the outcome

Tithing churches 10,000
Non tithing churches 4

Captain Gombs of the tithing churches, pls come forward for the Gold medal

My bro, you haf win jare

Elantracey: The letter killeth but d spirit giveth life ,my advice to christian always is never to interprete d bible wit men's wisdom because d wisdom of men is like foolishness unto God ..as God 4 his wisdom and his spirit to be able to understand it bible .. .meanwhile if it's not greediness n stingines wat will make u go search scriptures just to back up ur selfish reason 4 not payin tithe moreover wat is 10% of wat ah earn wen most of money n time goes into d work of d ministry...whether it's right or rong ah dont care as long as d bible never said we shouldn't pay tithe am gonna pay tithe till jesus come ..if u dont want to pay dat should be ur decision only n dont involve others into it instead use ur tym n preach d gospel dere re still many unsaved pple in d world

@the bolded. Thank God for you. It's your decision so keep to it.

Those i'm interested in are those who have been told the following LIES

1. If you don't tithe, things will be tight for you financially

2. If you don't tithe, you will have calamities, accidents, sickness, etc

3. If you don't tithe, you will burn in hell for ever.

If you dont fall into any of the 3 categories, then this thread and similar ones are not for you.

Feel free to go on with your tithing and i wish you luck.

God2man: Where is the church of christ? Give us the location.

Is there any Jehovah witness on this forum to help us out about the doctrine of Anti-tithe?

Who flushed it down the toilet?

You people are fond of calling people bad names, i have not done that, yet,you are calling me a liar. This is why i embraced discussion to arguement.
This thread is already turning to an arguement. I came here to ask for 10 Anti-tithe churches, up till now, i am yet to get a straightforward answers, instead, it has been manipulation in various forms, just to divert my attention.

Am i really a liar? If i am a liar, i stand to be corrected, i will sincerely apologize, but to my knowledge, i have not observed where i told a lie, if have mistakenly done that, call my attention to it, i am willing to make amend.


Who is a liar? The devil is the Father of lies, if i tell lie, then i am doing the work of the devil. I am a child of God and not of the devil.

Very soon, I am going to leave this thread.

Once again, i say God bless you to all my bretheren on this forum.

God2man.

If you are interested, you can visit the links below to get the addresses of some congregations in Nigeria

http://church-of-christ.org/churches/Nigeria/Abuja_S.htm

http://church-of-christ.org/churches/Nigeria/Nigeria_S.htm

Then these links for more info

http://www.church-of-christ.org/

http://www.firstcenturychristian.com/

And believe me when i say they are all over Nigeria. they are simply 'Churches of Christ congregations'. They have no fanfare or advert whatever

EMILO2STAY: Pls all u supporters of tithe should just shut up cuz none of u all are making a single sense.
i decided to study tithe for the first time in my life when i heard the pastor in my church shouting so confidently that no christian on earth can be succesful in life without paying tithe to the church. immediately i was struck in the heart to find out the truth for myself. I studied the bible and discoverd the simple truth of tithe, The tithe was eaten by those who received tithe and those who gave tithe, the poor, widow, motherless,fatherless received tithe and did not give tithe, But today pastors looked left and right they did not see any excuse for collecting tithe so they came up with the lie that tithe is for building the house of God, and no body is supposed to eat the tithe not even the pastor or the members of the church.
pls all the tithe supporters kindly show me where it is written in the bible that tithe is for building a brick and cement house u call church or to further the work of God.

God bless you plenty times.

This is the deception that also made me start a detailed study of the tithe lie.

Deut 14:22-29 clearly states that all manner of tithes was for eating and it clearly spelt out the eaters which included the tither. Today's pastors stand on the Pulpit and lie that they do not eat tithe but it's for kingdom expansion.

If the pastors claim they don't eat the tithe and of course we all know the tither doesn't eat it, then who? some will lie that they use some for the poor forgetting that they also collect a special welfare offering for the same purpose. Then they'll say for running the house of God, then you wonder what the offerings collected every fellowship day is for?

Tithe is to be eaten. If pastors claim it's not eaten, then they disrespect God and flout his commandment which they are forcing others to abide by. see below

Deut 14:23
'And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks: that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always'

Abraham gave to Melchizedek, what do you think Melchizedek did with it? Of course he took it to his palace and ate it with his people. Jesus is in heaven now, so how do i give it to him for those who say we give it to Jesus today?

God2man: Pro-tithers and Anti-tithers.

Pro-tither- supporting or appproving the doctrine of tithing.

Anti-tither- opposed to or against the docrine of tithing.

Op said churches that do not preach about tithe, you have added another vocabulary, "obligatory" "mandatory".

There is a big difference between Pro and Anti, now, let me ask you, is there any church that has a doctrinal stand against Tithe?

If you ask me, i will say no.

Thank God, i am yet to see any church condemning tithe as you people condemn it on this forum, you criticized, castigate and went ahead to call men of God names like, thieves, fraudulent preachers, and so many absurd names.

If we have churches preaching against tithe this way, there will be no problem, but it is difficult to see a church taking a doctrinal stand and stipulates that Tithe is a fraud. It is very difficult. If there is any, let me know.

You also said those churches are already more than ten. Where are they?

Too bad.

God2man.
According to the Op

Church of Christ preaches against tithe and calls it a fraud. I attend bible study there so i know
JW preaches against tithe. i'm sure you know this.

Those 2 i named preach vehemently against it and they are spread all over the world.

At least you and your friends lies about the Catholic church collecting mandatory tithes has been flushed down the toilet and that is talking about a church with 1billion adherents worldwide.

At least in terms of your criteria of numbers in judging what is right, shouldn't you join the catholic church's stand? they are more than all pentecostal tithe payers combined since you refused to be led by the word

[quote author=m.k.o2005]What do you think Christ is doing with your tithe ? You think he will put it in the sewage and get it flushed ? Or do you also think that becos you have tithed and then you can go to sleep without affecting also the lives of ur neighbors who are in need ? It's all encompassing mate ! It's just like saying becos i have prayed,i need not to fast. Or becos i have studied the bible i need not to fellowship with other believers ! No. You have to do all these without leaving the others undone !- When some people came to Jesus and said his mother,brothers and sisters are outside waiting to see him and he asked them who his brothers,sisters and mother are ? That it's only the people listening to HIS word at that very moment are his brothers,sisters and mothers,does that now mean Christ has no mother,brother and sister ? Please let the holy spirit guide you in these words and stop fighting Christ like Paul did thinking you are fighting for God !

God help us[/quote]You're the one preaching that Jesus needs my tithe like Melchizedek. So tell me what Christ my high priest needs my tithe for if i can't give it to the needy? What is Christ doing with tithes of today?

Infact, Can you also tell me what Melchizedek used the one Abraham gave him to do? Maybe it will let us know what Christ uses the one you give him today to do since giving to the needy etc is different from tithes.

Image123: Grace helps us to obey God.

You're right on that bro.

[quote author=m.k.o2005]How do you go about what ? We are not in the levetical or Aronical days. Just tithe ! God has put it in your heart so do it ! The melchizedekal order of tithing which Christ HIMSELF received isn't under compulsion.It's a heart thing.It was not given becos of the Law says so.It was not given to curry blessings.It was given directly to Christ. There is nothing wrong to give and expected something in return just like people who fast to curry God's favour or blessings or even protection some times but in the days of Grace,God will still be faithful to HIS words. Tithe is given to show appreciation and not a kalo-kalo kind of activity !

God bless us[/quote]Tithe to where?

If to Christ, then could following this scripture mean obedience to tithing to Christ?

Matt 25:40
'And the King shall answer and say unto them, verily i say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me'

If i adopt this statement from Christ, will i be adjudged to have complied?

I can give you examples of the least of the brethren Christ was talking about

they are the poor, sick, naked, prisoners, destitutes etc

Image123: All have sinned and come short of God's glory. What we need is grace, not logic meant at puncturing holes into scriptures.

you're right.

so do well to apply the grace of God and come to the truth that stipulating 10% is not of grace but of the law

Image123: Have you? i love to practice what i preach, instead of being like the pharisees who say and do not.

Sharp guy......look at the words of Jesus and chose the one you feel you can live with and run with it while dumping the rest.

Only that you still fall short of your tithe practice.......3 types of tithe.....to be true to your profession and the law setting it up.....do all three

Processor01: I have been attending Covenant Christian Center for sometime and I noticed they do not stress on tithing like they do in other pentecostal churches. Although, the envelopes are passed around during offering time.

In my Christian walk, I have learnt that the crowd is not necessarily right one of which is most pentecostal teaching that Alcohol is a sin. I know better because I asked the Holy spirit and not a MOG. Same reason I know better about tithing.

GOD is not a Slot machine! When you claim to tithe based on Malachi 3 then how can you claim you give to God because you love him?

Thank you my brother for your steadfastness.

Some glory in numbers and money, but we glory in Christ and his finished work.

God is not a gambling machine and we dont give to impress him or force his hand.

God bless you indeed

Gombs: The words in bold is what you and your band would have said since page 1, anyways, this will do. I have a big smile on my face.


Good day lads

*unfollows thread

Congratulations on your victory. Hope you spend the cash prize very well

As you go learn the following

1. High numbers doesn't translate to correctness, the crowd is not always right

2. The Catholic church doesn't preach tithe so dont use them as leverage in your scams

3. Christians are only to give voluntarily, no stipulated percentages.

4. We didn't hear the truth about tithes from churches but from in-depth personal study of the word of God.

5. There are churches that dont preach tithes and more will come up.

Gombs: ...

Folks can't answer a simple YES or No question even after he saw that I listed Catholic Church in the list of Churches that preaches and receive tithes. He's still asking me whether flimsy question to dodge answering a simple Yes or No question

Asking me whether my Church is pro tithing as if, if my church were anti tithing, I'd be here asking them to give list of anti tithe churches!

Folks that can't list the anti tithing churches they attend

Folks who think they are smarter both mentally and spiritually and scripturally than hundreds of Millions who tithe.

A Catholic told you they do not preach tithing, i said the same thing. So strike them from your list. They are not with you in the scam.

If we list it, what will you do with it? and if we dont, will do more than laughing and scoffing? so go ahead and start your enjoyment.
I told you one Church i attend and they DO NOT preach tithing so do what you want with the info.

It'll do you well to realise numbers dont determine correctness. I told you in the other thread that millions have followed dumb beliefs for ages so pls drop this herd mentality. Do your own thinking by yourself and stop relying on the crowd to help you know what is true or false. Has it ever occurred to you that you and your particular group might have been fooled by the gelled smart man?

Back to the Matter, we are not discussing catholism here,

You dont want to discuss Catholicism again? i thought you know so much about them? Go dig up more links to support your false claims.

We want to know JUST 10 anti tithe churches in Nigeria.


Pls give the list to the world to see, (you guys can't even spell out the churches you attend ) or simply bury your heads in shame.

What do you need the list for? to help you make up your mind to continue or stop being fleeced? since you obviously need numbers to help you make up your mind

I dont have a list of 10 because i didn't brag about any number.

I have given you the name of one i attend, now do what you want to do with it.

Gombs: Simple question

Is The Catholic Church an ANTI-Tithe Church?

YES or NO

If you can't answer this simple question, I will understand why!

Is your church a PRO-TITHE Church? Your answer will help me answer yours.

Catholic church does not preach compulsory tithes. Give as you're able and led is their philosophy.

If you dont understand this simple statement, i already know why

Gombs: www.forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=121898

www.saint-mike.org/library/rule/excerpts/principles_tithing.html

The first is a catholic forum on tithing

The second is the "Philosophy and Principles of Tithing
according to the Rule of St. Michael"

You lads should read it and answer whether the Catholic Church is Anti Tithing!


And Here, Catholic Churches ENCOURAGE TITHING. Chukwudi are you sure you are a catholic? I once were a catholic, I was in Legion of Mary, I knw a lot about CCRN, I know about a lot of saints, etc

And then, we were encouraged to bring in em tithes

i'm loving this. search engines will be very busy today

Also be honest enough to check the links below

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14741b.htm

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-is-the-churchs-position-on-tithing

Gombs: FAT LIE...who told you Catholic no longer Give tithes?
Compare the words in bold above to what Chukwudi said below
"Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz
members."

do you have dyslexia?

Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Catholics no longer practice compulsory tithing but are encouraged to contribute anything from 1-100% means they no longer operate by tithing, you know why? because tithe is strictly 10%. and if you dont operate a strict 10% threshold, then you're no longer operating by tithing or you want to prove Abraham gave more than 10%?

Tithe is 10%....No more, No less

Its that simple.

We aint complaining!
Y complain for us? Is it your money?

As if you have a choice. Complain to your pastor na if you get liver....make e prophesy devourer, poverty and sickness upon your head courtesy of Mal 3:8-12

Abraham's example indeed!!

You belong to your god of men my friend. Do well to start doing your thinking yourself.

See height of desperation abeg!

You lied against the Catholic church and a Catholic called you out. Catholics mooted the idea of Tithes for the church at Tours in 567AD, ratified it at Macon in 585AD and even then, its was strictly Agric produce meaning Christianity survived for 550 years without compulsory tithes .Catholics are obligated to support the church but are not given a percentage to abide by. Ask a Catholic who knows to educate you. Fr Gyang can even help you out

So on the issue of Catholic tithing, you're very wrong. Just admit it even if to yourself.

Kenny4lyfe: Sir, may I add;a number 4
»Assemblies of Tithe Critics
AKA Certified Robbers of God

You see how dishonest you and your pastors are?

Later you'll start lying you don't tithe because of Mal 3:8-12. Keep deceiving your selves.

I wonder why your devourer has not being able to devour the 1billion Catholics who no longer operate by tithing.

Chukwudi44 , a well known Catholic on NL has blown your lies out in the open. Catholics are encouraged to give as they desire and are able which is exactly what the apostles encouraged their converts to be doing and which we are advocating today.

Keep contributing to make your god of men have enough resources to keep their hair gelled. You'll be repaid with cartons of sophisticated hair cream I suppose.

jjman2322: I just got a facebook friend request from a demon, im scared to accept it


LMAO this is why this stupid country will never progress.. Nigerians are some of the most religious people on earth, yet our country is complete SH|T .. everything is caused by a spirit on demon.. how come these spirits and demons aren't in the united states when i lived there??

Typical Nigerian Mindset vs USA Mindset:

1. A car crashes and kills 10 people...
Nigeria: Must be evil spirits, Work of devil oo,
America: Carries out investigation and discovers the driver was drunk..

2. Airplane crashes in Nigeria killing 150 people
Nigeria: CHAI! Handwork of the devil/God..
America: NTSB investigates and discovers the airplane had a rudder problem leading to the crash

3. A man dies mysteriously.
Nigeria: He was poisoned, and/or he gave his life to the devil
America: Carries out autopsy, discovers the man died of heart failure.

I can go on and on.. This country is completely backwards and some people need to cross the border a bit and see what life could be like..

Isnt it a wonder that we pray so much, give so much to the church(*cough*cough*PASTOR*BUSINESS***), and yet the average person can't eat.. Yet you have non christian nations like China, Japan, etc doing amazingly well..

The moment I gave up was when i was in Guangzhou China last year and one of our partners said he knows at least 10 igbo boys who failed in business while in China, and they are now pastors and making tons of money, and they still visit China once in a while to floss a bit, before going back to the pastoral duties..

We rank top 3 in number of churches per square meter yet this country is a DUMP. Anyone with a IQ not in the single digits can obviously see that there's something wrong.

Anyway, carry on with the demonic sms, maybe he will add you on facebook next..

This country is a joke.

Cheers

Cheers to you too my brother plus 1million likes

You made too much sense