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The us have info on every person of interest in every country. It was revealed some time ago by Wikileaks that they had been tracking g Dangote since he was In his 20s because he was an influential player in the sugar industry at the time. They even had info in his nights out at nightclubs.

Gafferde:
@ojay_obin




Do you think he is right?

You can add yours too.

you see those marketers, bank workers especially “business development”, real estate agents and nurses...run away!!! The nature of their jobs puts them in the firing line.

You see the 1st three in particular , 85% chance somebody she encountered in the course of her job has smashed your wife.

a B.sc is a pass degree (aka let my people go) B.sc(hons) simply means you got 1st class, 2:1, 2:2 or 3rd class.

it simply means your B.sc (hons) is a honourable degreem, while your B.sc is not, it is more or less a certificate of attendance.

Kukutente23:
He usually sounds like a rich, spoilt kid who lacks native or emotional intelligence and grew up throwing tantrums and words at people who served his parents.

Shettima is a thinking man, you could say a bit of an intellectual, he is the kind of person that’s back in the day would have been a professor. People like that tend to say things as they are….they tend to be blunt and sometimes lacking in emotional intelligence as you say.

It reminds me of a situation when a friend of mine saying “what a waste of a life” in describing another friend of ours who was even closer to him than me. I know what he meant because this friend of ours was so so brilliant….. but it’s not everything you say. Our friend wasted his potential, it is true and it’s what people are thinking but it shouldn’t come from his mouth.

Kukutente23:
You said he lacks communication delivery but there's nothing wrong with the statement. Reconcile the two. Let me frame it differently.

Imagine you have a friend whose name is Israel but is childless after 15 years of marriage.

You already have two and suddenly, your wife delivers a set of twins. Then your church organises a family seminar and people from Israel's church also attend.

You're among the panelist and you're to speak on raising Godly children.

In your opening statement you then go thus: "We should learn to see children as God's gift. My friend Israel whom most of you know married before me, 15 years ago. Till today he's childless. Those of us with twins and other kids should learn to take good care of them because they are God's gift."

How do you think people in that space will view your word?
As you're reading your supposed statement, are you cringing or nodding your head?
How do you think Israel will feel about you when news of your statement gets to him?

If anyone labels you headless mob for condemning this statement, that person needs to have his head checked. Don't allow people who are worse than you blackmail you.

He made a very poignant point about the reward system in Nigeria however he wasn’t tactical. He should not have used the word “mediocre” an he should not have mentioned the name.

It is the same point Falana made on TV yesterday, a professor cannot be making 400k monthly while a local govt chairman makes N1m.

I am a fan of Shettima, I love the man but I cringed when I saw the video.

zeestone99:
The still doesn't validate this argument except Abuja is a state like any other state. They have their governor, senators, HOA etc. They should be entitled to this thing. The president is not their governor. That gives them undue advantage.
Let me just summarize what I'm saying. I'm saying another judge can give opposite judgement validating mandatory 25 percent in abuja and we will still have this argument where some are for it and others are against it. The funny thing is they would both be right.
Let this thing be written down correctly in the constitution. That's all I'm saying. Don't stress us becos we are not lawyers or judges. We also have the right to understand the law in plain English or don't we need to understand the rules we follow?

you are sounding like a customer of yours who after showing him the back panel is still arguing that the panel should generate 500w. Think of how such a person would sound to you and how you would be looking at such a person in your mind, unfortunately thats exactly how you are looking right now. You can only enlighten someone who wants to be enlightened. Someone who wants to argue will continue to find something to argue. I only responded to your posts because i follow you as I have a passing interest in Solar and i have learnt a thing or two from you. if you dont want to learn from me in return, it's ok. I have said all i need to say In such a circumstance, and have nothing more to say.

zeestone99:
In engineering it is very clear. It would be written under STC (standard test conditions).
It would also be written factors that can affect output for each engineering designs. It is very clear.
The rules for the governorship election was clear. All local govt. There was no "but", "and", "or" in any statement. So why complicate the statement of the law such a way anyone can give it's own meaning including lawyers and judges. That's my point in the whole thing.
IMO I feel it was done intentionally.

clearly you do not want to educate yourself.


you say it is clear, in the same way as your customers do not read the fine print where things like STC are listed and therefore approach things from a layman's point of view, so also you are doing the same thing. Have you read the constitution, have you studied law to understand the principles of law and how to interprete laws that you now feel you are qualified to talk based on 1 item in the constitution?

Several times I have refered you to section 42(1)b that is the law equivalent of the fine print where things like the STc is written...have you bothered to read it?

section 42 of the constitution. (rights of citizens)

1) A citizen of Nigeria of a particular community, ethnic group, place of origin, sex, religion or political opinion shall not, by reason only that he is such a person:-
(a) be subjected either expressly by, or in the practical application of, any law in force in Nigeria or any executive or administrative action of the government, to disabilities or restrictions to which citizens of Nigeria of other communities, ethnic groups, places of origin, sex, religions or political opinions are not made subject; or
(b) be accorded either expressly by, or in the practical application of, any law in force in Nigeria or any such executive or administrative action, any privilege or advantage that is not accorded to citizens of Nigeria of other communities, ethnic groups, places of origin, sex, religions or political opinions.

When your customer comes to you and you tell him to read the fine print, above is the fine print of the law. Even if a law is enacted that says gives a community a privilege over another, section 42 says that law is invalid..i am sure you can read and understand English. Section 42 is about the rights of citizens, the earlier a law appears in the constitution the more powerful it is because it is the foundation for other laws. thats why things like what is Nigeria, how many states, rights of citizens etc etc appear early in the constitution...they are fundamental to the constitution. The rights of citizens supersedes anything else.

I have told you many times, you are not in ANY position to comment authoritatively on the law. Your emotions are getting the better of you.

accordadoga30:
Good!!!

That baba na alaseju.

Like our great grandfathers say, house wey settle na the bastard neva grow.

He is a disrespectful OSU and should be stripped of all YORUBA chieftaincy titles

Their forefathers should have stripped the British of their colony. You don’t have a kingdom, the British collected it from you. you are just pretending you have a kingdom, you are stripping somebody of chieftancy.

I am no fan of Obasanjo, he is a vile disgusting man but this is medicine after death. A death that already occurred in the 19th century.

It is only in Nigeria you see “Kings” that have lost their Kingdoms, working for their conquerors, collecting salaries and still parading themselves as it they are still rulers.

Reminds me of small girls playing house.

zeestone99:
It's sheer absurdity, why was it there in the 1st place and not talked about until now. The reason is it was put there intentionally and now it backfired. Who do we blame.

Again you are the ones saying it is there. You are the ones claiming “and” means you must win 25% of Abuja. Again I repeat, it is your lay man’s opinion. You are not a lawyer talk less of a judge, you are not in any position to interprete the law.

If I want to install solar panels, I don’t come and argue with someone who was trained and whose job/profession it is. I may know a few things about solar installations but I am no expert. With due respect you install solar panels, you are not qualified or trained to speak as fact, matters of law.

What you are doing is talking like a customer who says that because a solar panel says 500w on it it must produce 500w and therefore you cheated him. You try and explain to him that 500w is only in lab conditions but he says no you cheated him. That’s exactly how you sound. Innocent but ignorant.

Again I repeat, stick you what you know and stop talking like you are an expert on things you are neither trained nor have practical experience of.

If every Dick and Harry can install solar, nobody would pay you to install solar. If every Dick and Harry can Build a house nobody would pay engineers to build a house, If every Dick and Harry can Interprete the law, nobody would pay a lawyer. Why then do you think you know the law more than the judges?


Again I refer you to section 42(1)b

I have concluded both by the way Atiku spent all his energies chasing after Buhari’s Certificate ( that the law did not require him to tender). As well as his focus on CSU, that the man is daft.

As I have said before, there is nothing to be revealed that hasn’t been revealed. If your enemy is making a mistake, you don’t correct him. It doesn’t mean you have anything to hide. If your enemy is not spending his time and effort on a wild goose chase, he would have more time to focus on where your real weakness is if you have one. Therefore it is in your interest to indulge and encourage the enemy that there is something when you know there is nothing.

COMPAQ:
So many Nigerians think they are well informed and smart by don't realise how dumb they are!!

Most of the IOC's have been very clear that they are divesting their stake in the ONSHORE aspect of their business because of the activities of crude theft.

They have all said they will keep their investments in the OFFSHORE aspect, as that is not subject to vandalization. They also plan to keep investing in GAS, because gas is pretty much impossible to steal like oil because it's a intangible product!!

Be EDUCATED!!

What is clear is that not only are too many ignorant people given a platform to display their ignorance, too many Nigerians have a plroblem with acknowledg8mg of celebrating good nes because it hasn’t come from their side whatever that side may be. The problem of Nigeria are Nigerians.

Savenigeria2023:
Shell to divest portfolio in Nigeria
https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/shell-to-divest-its-entire-nigeria-joint-venture-portfolio/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-31/shell-said-to-resume-nigeria-oil-fields-sale-talks-to-local-firm

Exxon to divest portfolio in Nigeria
https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/news/news-releases/2022/0225_exxonmobil-to-sell-mobil-producing-nigeria-shallow-water-affiliate

By now, everyone should not be surprised at the level of lies this FG dispenses on a daily basis

Clearly you are clueless. These companies divested sue to unfavorable environment in Nigeria and the drive towards green energy. Recent events have caused a rethink of the green energy drive including the war against Russia strained relations with Saudi etc.

One of the reasons oil is where it is is because there has been a reduced investment in the oil and gas sector globally and now they are paying for it. Only 2 days ago, the UK announced they have shifted the ban on new petrol/ diesel cars by 5 years because they realize it is unachievable. The war with Russia has taught Europe they need friendly gas suppliers. Green or no green they will need gas. Nigeria has more gas than it has oil.

zeestone99:
I'm summary the law is for the court and judge to twist. Treat it like, let it behave like, it looks like and blablabla. Why put a law out there that can be interpreted in several ways depending on what mood the court is. This is laughable

Clearly the only interpretation of the law that is acceptable to you is your Interpretation. The law is clear, that people chose to misinterpreted it is not the problem of the law.

The law is very clear, again read section 42(1)b.

netricoin:
https://authorityngr.com/2023/09/20/pepc-judgement-key-points-of-our-appeal-by-peter-obi/

None of this says where he got more votes than Atiku talk less Tinubu. He wants to use Gbajue to become president!!

zeestone99:
What you are trying to say is only the judge can interpret the law and that's final. Different judge can interpret the law however they like resulting into different outcomes. Judge A says 25percent is not valid in 2023 and judge B says 25 percent is now valid in 2027. However we should take it like that cos it's not our duty to interpret the law. How does that sounds.
The law is the law, u might not like it and also you can't change it whether u like it or not.
All of a sudden Abuja becomes a state like every other state. No governor, no senator. Some states are more privileged than the other to have govenors and senators. There's no way you want to twist this thing, the law made Abuja special. If u don't like it then rewrite the constitution.

What I am saying is it is pointless arguing over our opinions of the law, you think it means a candidate must get 25% in FCT, I think that is not what the law says. Our positions are opinions. Neither of us are qualified to parade our opinions and thoughts as fact. It is for the court to determine what is the law,.....not you, not me!

There is a reason why there are courts and why you can appeal a ruling. You ask me how does it sound? Laws and courts are there for a reason. Anarchy is when citizens do not respect the rule of law and feel only their interpretation of events and the law is right. Nobody ever said anywhere that Abuja is a state, if you can find anywhere where any law or court has said Abuja is a state please feel free to show me. The law says in the practical application of the law it should be treated “like” a state. Except one is not properly grounded in English, a basic understanding of English will tell you that to be like something is not the same as being that thing. “He is like my son” does not mean “he is my son”…..English!!! Treat him like my son does not mean he is my son…..English!!! If he were my son, I wouldn’t have or need to say” like”. Again these are opinions, the court will interprete and make a judgement.

In your house you are head of the house. If your kids are fighting and you deliver a judgement, more often than not it will not please one child but if the other child refuses to accept your ruling, the. You will have anarchy in your house. You are the head of your family because your word is final. The minute your children do not accept your authority, your in your family and hence your family is finished. In a football match, 2 of us will sit side by side and see different things, one says its a penalty, the other is adamant it is not....that is why we have referees and the referees verdict is final..the minute the referees has no authority, the game of football is finished. it is not my opinion or yours that matters but that of the referee. It is similar with the court system......the Supreme Court is right not because it is right but because it is final. If you cannot accept that principle you do not deserve democracy or understand the rule of law.

PS: read section 42(1)b of the constitution.

juman:
Asylum in Ghana.
He is suffering from madness.
Nobody is after him. Except his ghost.

How do we even know the document he “leaked” was genuine?

The guy is a nuisance Abeg!

zeestone99:
The law says otherwise. If we all start to screen everything the laws says then we will have no law to follow. Many things are wrong but the law is the law.
For example a the law just asked car owners to pay for proof of ownership certificate, car that u cleared and have more than 6 documents on to prove u r d owner. It doesn't make sense but the law is the law. Until we change the law notin can b done.

Does it? There is a difference between what the law says, what you think the law says and what you want the law to say.

What the law says can only be interpreted by the court.

What you think the law says is based on your knowledge, common sense, objectivity , the more knowledgeable and objective you are, the closer you are to the facts. What anyone thinks the law says is their opinion not fact.

Thirdly what you want the law to say, this is based purely on how you want the interpretation of the law to favour you.

Like you saw the law is the law, the only people qualified to interprete the law are judges, everything else is just opinion…..and you know what they say about opinions……


The problem is lay men, many not properly educated, enlightened, intelligent and most certainly having no legal education or even read the relevant provisions of the law, giving their opinion as fact!

In any even if the courts make the interpretation that 25% is required in Abuja, the rerun will be between the person who came 1st and the person who came 2nd, since the person who came 3rd did not challenge the person who came 2nd and made no attempt to prove he came 1st.

please look at the US elections history. Democrats always win D.C their equivalent of FCT, with huge margins 90% etc, they dont say because Trump only got 9% he cant be president. The republican party has never achieved 10% in D.C at least not since 2000, yet Republican Bush won 2000 & 2004 and Trump once 2016. D.C doesnt have a governor either, it is governed by a Mayor. It is only in Nigeria you see this kind of desperation and irrationality

Posh2018:
I really feel u. The Obidient movement is breeding very dangerous unreasonable, irrational and murderous cum suicidal mentality.

The mob mentality is frightening. The end is better imagined.

It is worrisome...no jokes! there is nothing more dangerous than irrational people.

nairalandkachy1:
Ondo South Senator, Jimoh Ibrahim appoints 100 Special Assistants across the State.

the document you posted clearly says personal assistants not speacial assistants. Secondly so long as he is not paying them with state funds ( which i am sure he cant) he can do what he wants.

kayusely70:
They're most of the time blinded by petty jealousy and morbid hatred!!!!!!!

I am genuinely mortified at the rate at which seemingly educated people have lost their ability to process information and think rationally. How they embark on paths that any right thinking person can see from the onset will lead nowhere and how when indeed as expected it doesnt they double down on another senseless path. Forget about our differences whether political, tribal or religious, this is very worrisome.

A day after the election, a whole SAN and former national chairman of the NBS came on TV to say you must win 25% in Abuja....how does that make sense to any right thinking lawyer? ..these guys have lost it. One Doofus here called toks2008 is talking about a diploma certificate with the wrong sex on it as evidence. Do typists and admin staff not make errors on certificates? have you managed to track down this female Bola A Tinubu? In any event did Tinubu present this certificate to INEC and is it a certificate issued by CSU? But if you listen to the Doofus, his whole premise is based in this certificate. They will now lose a case that had no merit and will want to burn down the country. It really is so so so sad.

I can disagree with people and respect them but stupidity is nauseating!!!

ValarDoharis:
There is solid grounds to disqualify Tinubu for certificate forgery if not that our Fraudiciary is fantastically corrupt.

Why is Bukachuwa being investigated by ICPC and DSS again?

He who asserts must prove.

ValarDoharis:
Lets not speculate, we will soon know the documents that will be released. There's no way Tinubu would hire lawyers to block nothing

this is not speculation this is fact, I have read the judgement have you? google it

again the problem like I say is you people talk out of ignorance and dont bother to verify, investigate despite having on of the worlds most valuable information tools in your possesion.

Do you understand the game of diversion? Sometimes if i know you are barking down the wrong tree, it is in my interest to encourage you to waste your efforts on a path i know will lead to nothing.

ValarDoharis:
You can if new evidence comes up to support your grounds. One of the grounds of Atiku at the tribunal is certificate forgery. He already provided evidence which the tribunal said it was a pre-election matter. Supreme Court will decide if its pre-election or post election and accept the old and new evidence.

Supreme Court ought to be a court of Justice and policy

Look my friend (and to all those reading this) many of you do not actually and have not read the petition before the court in illinois or the judgement.

let me give you a summary.

There are 4 requests sought by Atiku. the court granted all 4 however:

requests 1-3 are discretionary (they must provide if they exist) and CSU has already stated they do not keep records e.g copies of actual certificates.
request no4 is irrelevant because it has already been presented before the court in Nigeria.

Summary: the whole exercise like all Atiku's fishing exercises with Buhari is a waste of time. there will be nothing new presented at the supreme court.

Again most people on Nairaland do not bother to use the valuable tool before them to fact check or investigate before they post.

Toks2008:
Another User ID noted.

God forbid I ever respond to your mentions again.

I am sure you remember I have told you many times not to. I noted your user ID long ago as a brainless low IQ wannabe.

jojothaiv:
I find some headlines on Nairaland misleading, the truth is the illegality runs in the Nigeria system because we have a lot of Judas.

A case in point is Zamfara State gold mine.

You are very correct and unfortunately the history of the looting of the Nigerian state is not without the connivance of insiders and outsiders. All the stole monies, crude, gold etc ends up in the west and they know it’s source. They are not going to help us unless we help ourselves because it’s not in their interests. That said it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t say it.

That said just talking without attacking it at home is pointless.

Toks2008:
Do you know how to spot someone with a very negligible IQ on a faceless forum? It is how they present their argument.

Only a mentally challenged fellow will be heaping insults on another person especially when the person had never expressed any insultive words directly to that person. REAL EDUCATED PEOPLE WITH SOUND MINDS PRESENT THEIR ARGUEMENTS WITHOUT INSULTS.

I will pretend i did not see your insults and just educate you and perhaps other responsible people who may learn a thing or two.


In some exceptional cases, an appellate court(SUPEME COURT IN THIS INSTANCE) may consider new evidence if it is deemed crucial and if it can be shown that this evidence could not have been reasonably discovered or presented at the lower court level.

You really are making a fool of yourself

slowice:
I want justice

You mean your own version of justice. And that is the problem with you people, if it doesnt go your way it isnt justice. A man won an election, you say he should be disqualified based on technicalities you havent proven but you who came third and is equally guilty of technical breaches should be declared president because the other side cannot disqualify him based on technicalities.

Justice is an election was held and the man with the highest number of votes is president. If you dispute that show where you won more votes than him, afterall you were all shouting that you were doing your own PU by PU count....why have you not come up with the figures that prove Obi won? You dont need INEC or Court to prove the figures if you have the figures and if indeed you won. You can add, You have your own certified copies of results of every PU. why arent you publishing the figures?

Forget about INEC, Court, show us your figures, if you can I will join you in demanding that Tinubu be removed.

Toks2008:
It amazes me how Tinubu supporters waste no time in dishing out insults.

Let me assume you lack manners at least try and use your mental faculty

Go through my posts on this thread again and even you will agree how super dumb you are for writing such atrocious post.

Ignore the facts that I mentioned and focus on the fact that you were rightly called out as a doofus. Is anything I said about introducing new facts wrong? Are you not truly daft with a history of daft posts? What have I said that is wrong?

What is amazing is how everyday we begin to understand that cramming and regurgitation at exams does not equal intelligence or enlightenment.

IfnobeGod20:
That is never a technicality. There are criteria for qualification and disqualification of a candidate. Presenting forged documents to go for an election is tantamount to disqualification. Every political leaders are expected to live above board. So, that cannot be said to be on technicality ground but following criteria to vying for an election as constitutionally stipulated. You people are only fixed on the main election leaving the process to the election. Use common sense please.

if you had even experienced common sense in your family or school you wont have typed what you typed

ojobek:
I am disappointed in you, being drug
Barron, identity theft, certificate forgery is not matter to you.He is my tribe man and he must rule by force is what matters.Shame.

Oga we are discussing law here. The courts do not make judgments on sentiment or opinion but on the law, facts and what you can prove according to known established procedures that all lawyers are fully aware….which is why they spend 4 years studying law.

The court is not going to jail you because everybody believes you stole, they will only convict you if they can prove you stole. Or else anybody can accuse anybody and have them convicted without proof.

An appeal court is not a retrial. At a retrial you can introduce new evidence, call new witnesses etc. at an appeal court, you are saying the judge was wrong….that is your entire case, that the judgement was wrong. So to determine if a judgement was wrong the only things you look at are the things you brought to court for that judgement.

If I rightly at the time pronounce you not guilty because the prosecution couldn’t provide evidence you stole. Then if they appeal my judgement they cannot at appeal bring in evidence they have now found of the money you stole that they didnt introduce before my judgement. Note this is an appeal not a retrial.


Understand this and you will understand why you always lose cases.

Toks2008:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa

It is over.

Very true.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A%20federal%20court%20in%20Chicago,the%20ruling%20seen%20by%20Peoples

again showing how daft, brainless and ignorant you are. Assuming there is even anything, you cannot introduce evidence you didnt introduce at a lower court. It is not a retrial, it is an appeal of a judgement at a lower court based on what you submitted at that court. New matters evidence,witnesses etc are not admissible because they were not part of what led to the judgement.

i have told you many times to stick to gullible single mothers and "i missed marraige" older women, they are the ones too emotionally vulnerable to see right through you.