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opzijay: thanks cavenchy and omopapa.i really salute your help.i will hope they don't include it.cos I'm still serving in Calabar and time is of the essence.i have contacted the international office to tell them.and if they decide they want to.i will go down to LAGOS to do all these.i will keep you guys posted.thanks a lot.

When is your course start date?

Makomen Omonkhomion: do I have to write an application letter to the Uk embassy?

Download and Print VAF9 and VAF 9 appendix 8 visa forms, Read the Tier4migrant guidelines for all information concerning visa applications.

opzijay: thanks brother.i appreciate your help.is it possible to tell them/dictate what you want.i mean-i sent them a mail about it over the weekend hoping they will respond this week.do you think they can bulge?if they don't,what is the worst case scenario?what is the last thing i can do?

At the moment the school is in the best position to assist you, if they go on to request waec on the cas, contact the Waec office and request for a confirmation of your result to be sent to the BHC (this should be addressed directly from waec to prove its authenticity). You should also have an affidavit and police report clearly stating what happened to your original certificate. Then include these plus a scratch card if u can get one, to your photocopy. And explain the details of the condition and what you have included to this respect, in the Additional information of the form,
Read through the part 1 of this thread, there are a couple of people who went through similar situations. I've taken the time to go through some of those posts and I noticed 'tjadeba' had a similar issue.
https://www.nairaland.com/127964/general-uk-visa-enquiries/59#4387187 (scroll down close to the bottom of the page 59)

opzijay: please Cavenchy[color=#000099][/color]answer my question

In addition to what I explained earlier abt the efficacy of an original certificate you might want to read this.
https://www.nairaland.com/279863/uk-visa-new-points-based
Its an old post though (2009) and as such, many visa rules have been changed but as regards the waec I think the same grounds for refusal still apply.

opzijay: thanks Justwise and the rest.i read this thread everyday.I'm waiting for my CAS.i have however misplaced my original waec result.i used the photocopy for my application and i was given the conditional offer.now my confusion is this-should i inform my school Not to include the waec certificate in the CAS(if Its possible),or hope they don't,or get waec to send confirmation to the embassy,or notorize the photocopy.Pls Justwise and the rest.advise

I'm not too familiar with waec certificate issues but I'm certain that the ukba made it clear in the tier4migrant guidelines that they only accept original documents and not copies. You might need to contact your school's international student advisory unit about this to ensure the cas contains information you are comfortable with.

dexter101: Hi Everyone,

my name is olukemi and i am about to apply for a tier4 visa. i have paid all tuition and i have right amount for maintenance bt the issue is all my document has adigun foluso olukemi which i started using since my waec but my birth certificate has adigun omotayo olukemi. my question is what should i do?note that my last name is d same with my parents and i have their consent letter already. what should i do about the name? thanks.

What names do you have on your international passport? Did you undergo a change of name at any point in life (if so, is this change documented in an affidavit or public newspaper?),

My best advice would be (esp if your course doesn't begin till mid or late sept and beyond) for you to ask your parents to pay the money into your account as soon as possible, wait 28 days, print out your account statement, append/attach ur oanda conversion and apply. That way you won't need the birth certificate for visa application..

honey86: It seems most people are heading for Canada this year. It is wellll.

That seems to be the case...and the uk unis don't appear too happy about it either.
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sCV8RzrR7KrH9CuuCukyCgg/view.m?id=15&gid=education/2012/may/17/new-rules-overseas-students-universities&cat=education

^^
@Salsera; u got it today right..congrats.
@Donxavier; I believe they just want to know how genuine you are about studying and if you truly have the money. From what I read, their main focus is your english abilities, so I guess a clear mind and honesty would suffice. All the best.

EmmaIK: Thanks for you reply.
I actually meant the 29th day (after the 28 days)

Thanks again everybody.

Ok then it's alright, I actually submitted a bank statement covering 3 months and applied the next day after printing the statement. All the best, don't forget to include the oanda conversion for the closing balance.

EmmaIK: Thanks Bro. I guess it was my mistake. I'll start counting again since I hv 2 months to the start of my course. I just wanted to get all tins settled early to avoid the rush.
But if I leave the funds for 28 days then print the statement on the 29th hope the ECO won't be suspicious?

Thanks.

If you leave the funds for 28 days, then you should start counting from the date the money was back up in your account..and from my calculations- 29th of July is not 28 days from 10th july(according to your earlier post refering to when your required funds was restored)

justwise: . . . and my question to you guys is this. . . which other detail again is hidden after you might have given them all [/b]your details? After they might have verified all you have given them. . what else is hidden?

The embassy is not calling the bank to ask for a fresh/new document, they are verifying what you have given them [b]already, yes they have the right to do that, there is nothing like. . . the bank has no right to disclose your info to the embassy.

There is a portion on the visa application form (Part 1 section 1.4 VAF9 )that requires you to attest that the funds you have confirmed to be in your possesion will remain so avialable for the duration of any Tier 4 leave granted unless used to pay course fees and living costs in the uk.

If the applicant has provided the statement with a closing balance above the limit, and it has been held 28 days prior to the closing balance, the ukba should be satisfied with this data. But there might be other ways of tracking down the applicant to be sure he kept to the rule above. Perhaps that's the reason for the interview, or they might request another statement from the applicant if in doubt showing he/she still has the funds at POE. But as for them(ukba) asking the bank for a separate bank statement (for a period outside that which the applicant submitted) without the account owner's knowledge, I don't think that's possible.

That said, The earlier suggestion would have been his only hope if he was very close to course start date and waiting for another 28 days would mean leaving naija after the school's finished taking enrollment. But seeing he still has time, I would suggest Emma waits for 28days.

[quote author=boss-man]For record purpose, no bank will release someones statement to such organisation when the request is not backed up by a court order or regulatory body's request. The best the bank could do is to confirm the authenticity of the statement or the current account balance. So i think the earlier suggestion could very much work.[/quote]Absolutely right, the ukba has no access to statements not provided by the applicant, and the bank is bound to only confirm the authenticity of the statement submitted by applicant and/or a confirmation of the applicant's present balance being above ukba recommended limit.

justwise: How will he be able to set those two dates? Especially setting the closing date on 23rd, That is the issue.

Some banks actually let you set the start and end dates(e.g UBA and I think GTB too). Regarding the situation with the introduction of interview to the Ukba visa application process, visa processing might take longer, but I still think waiting till the 28days is feasible since his school course starts in September and if he applies after d 28days (09/10th august),there should be enough time between the visa collection and getting to uk just in time to enroll for his studies.

EmmaIK: Thanks for your reply.
I just Checked my Statement again. Here's the situation.
>The required funds was there from the 11th of May till the 23rd of June.
>After that it went below that from the 24th of June till 10th of July.
>But now, it is back up to the require level. I've paid my full tuition and 300 Pounds for hostel.

I am very confused and i even went to PFL and BCIE and the fools said i cant use it.

What do u think?

Thanks.

@Justwise, taking a 2nd look at this situation don't u think he can print the statement and set the start and end dates as 11th May to 23rd June, so that the closing balance is stated on 23rd june and its presently not up to a month after then(so that he can apply before 23rd July)? Then he prints oanda conversion for 23rd june?
Can Ukba actually find out from the bank, details of his transactions after the closing date of balance on his statement?

Again, this is just an objective consideration post regarding this situation, and as such is not an 'Advice' to Emma but open for deliberation, in otherwords, Emma na suggestion oh, no do am till others don critically analyse. My best advice would be wait till it clocks 28 days again cos I don't think 9th/10th august will b too late to apply depending on ur course start date (most schools start in september)

firo: Thank you guys i got my visa good luck for everyone

Congrats, now you can pack ur bags.All d best

lanrewajew: Hi justwise, the required amount covering maintenance has bin sitting I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ my account for two months now. My visa application got delayed by the late arrival of my toefl score report. I hope its ok to present the bank statement even though its way past 28 days. Thanks

In addition to what Azed said, if(and I believe) your account has held this money for 2 months like u said and d balance didn't fall below the required limit throughout. Then u can go ahead and print the statement,
But if at a point in those 2 months your balance fell below the limit, check to see if u had held d money for 28 days before it fell below the limit and be sure the 28 days statement closes before (and doesn't include) d day it fell below d limit. Then ensure you apply before a month from the date of the closing balance on the statement.

firo: Hi ,
I am living in saudi arabia and i am worried about the bank statement i submitted along with my tier 4 application can u please help me ?
My problem is that the balance on the bank statement is in SAR (saudi riyal) and i forgot to convert the balance to pound sterlin and therefore i didnt write the balance in pound on the bank statement i already submitted .
will this be a reason for refusing my visa ? and what are my chances to get the visa without wrinting down the balance in pound ?

Thank you

If you have already submitted your application there's little or nothing u can do now but wait for d outcome. But I believe a well meaning less strict ECO would overlook that because they still apply the convertion rate on the day of your closing balance across the variations of balances within the 28 day period backwards from the closing balance date. I didn't write mine down on the statement tho, I just attached a printed copy of the oanda.com conversion showing how much my closing balance was worth in pounds and d details of the convertion rate for that day.

kunlewoye: Is the form A option cheaper? I had to pay about 60Pounds over my deposit of 3000 Pounds when I transferred from a Dom acct.

With the form A, bank charges are subject to the amount you are transferring, different banks have different exchange rates and their respective charges on the transaction. Most banks charge a certain % on d amount to be transferred + anoda 5% vat on d charge + a flat fee btw 1k-3k.
I can't guarantee that its cheaper than a dom acc transaction, but at least u're sure the transfer was done from your own account. That way if the student doesn't wish to continue with earlier plans or d uni has any oda reason to refund the money, it's sent right back to your account and u avoid oda domestic issues many people have had to face when trying to get their money from someone else's account. Though this is rarely d case, as most nigerians r serious abt studying and get d visas most of d time, so refund issues rarely ever surface.

Hey Justwise and d NL family, y'all doing a noble thing by sharing experience n advising fellow countryfolks. it's been pretty enlightening reading thru the posts on this thread. That said, I'm also appending my own 2pence for what its worth. Prospective students can check dis site for ideas on what their soon to be uni's are actually like, as seen thru the eyes of students who school dere themselves and have dropped reviews on facilities, accomodation, eye candy etc.

http://www.whatuni.com/degrees/university-uk/find-university/browse.html

N.B: Bear in mind however that these are opinions of independent individuals and ideas (e.g fees) quoted here are bound to vary from the actual information of the school itself. So its best contacting the school directly when in need of official information.

Just my 2 pence contribution...

[quote author=$pärklês]Thank you, I had to use a friend's dorm account to make the transfer.

@Honey, thanks for your contribution.[/quote]I would have gone with the Form A option though if I were u, but since u've already made payment using a friend's dorm account. I suggest u keep close contact with the account owner incase the school decides to refund your money 4 any reason whatsoever(I'm hoping it never gets to that though),Reason: the sch can only refund fees paid to the account it was paid from. All the Best.

Wish y'all the best in your applications

justwise: If your school is picking you up by bus then its about 2-3hrs but by train its about 45mins. Schools normally pick up group of foreign students with school bus.

Alrite, thanks

justwise: Ok,that will be about 3hrs journey to Huddersfield

Really? Most peeps say its about 45 mins.. School says its 1hr tops by train. 3-4hours is from Hearthrow Airport London.

justwise: Will your school pick you up from Leeds/Bradford airport or Leeds train-station?

Manchester International Airport

kunlewoye: Congrats bruva!! I feel like going tomorrw to drop mine already... Where's ur skool?

Thanks bro, wish u God's favour with yours. Its University of Huddersfield. Its located between Manchester and Leeds.

FutureDon: Congrats bro! I'm elated by this news. Can you please list the documents you submitted for your visa application.

Just submitted what was requested in the cas + bank statement and my waec and transcript. The documents to submit vary per applicant just as CAS details vary. Most Importantly, submit what academic documents are listed in the cas and a bank statement proving u have access to maintenance funds specific to the borough where the school is located. If u haven't already paid fees in full, the balance due for payment will be reflected in the cas as well, so you will have to ensure ur account has the total balance due and maintenance funds held in ur acc for 28 days before printing d statement and then apply 4 d visa not later than a month from that date. Thanx mate

justwise: congrat and safe journey

Thanks man, God bless you.

ibudes: Thank you all I am still waiting for their email to confirm if it is a compulsory requirement I have gone through their web which states that 800 is required a month

All the best mate.

Thank God I just picked up my Visa!!! Justwise, A-ZED, Kunlewoye and all that contributed words of advice and encouragement, may God reward y'all abundantly.

ibudes: It was clearly stated that it is aside from the tution

It says £7200 here;

http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/students/international/evidence%20of%20finances.pdf

However, Some schools advice prospective students to hold more money for other needs which might come up e.g thesis, trips, projects etc and it is assumed that the ukba recommended will not suffice if the student doesn't get a job while studying. So u might need to verify if the 11,000 pounds figure sent to you is a recommended or compulsory requirement.

ibudes: Hi Justwise, before I write to ask about the living expenses for outer London I sent a n email to my school requesting the information and they replied yesterday telling me that the living expenses will be 11,000 Pounds. And from the UKBA they require 7200 for outer London and the school is now telling me 11,000 Pounds should I work with what the UKBA has said which is 7200 four outer London? Hope it will not cost me any problem as on my CAS they did not state it there they only state the tuition

Have u paid ur tuition in full or did u just make a deposit? If u still have outstanding fees to pay they might have summed it up with the 7200 to arrive at that amount they sent you as living expenses.

Aside from that, Living expenses for outer london is £800 per month. If You'll be studying for a 12 months course you will need £9600, but Ukba requires u show proof of only 9 months (hence the £7200).

[quote author=A-ZeD]I applied in Lagos(ikeja) 30th of may and the visa was issued on the 14th of june though vfs contacted me on the 21th. That makes it 9 working days.[/quote]Thanks man, keeping my fingers crossed and praying to God mine comes out Next week.

[quote author=A-ZeD]Got my visa.
Thanks Justwise, kunlewoye[/quote]Wow congrats, where did you apply and how long did it take before u got the visa?

FutureDon: Thanks a lot for your response. I'm still looking for a trusted dorm account owner to use. Meanwhile, I have submitted an application to open a dorm account for myself. All the best bro!!!

Before I paid mine, I verified from gtb, uba and diamond banks if it would be possible to pay the fees without a dorm account and they all answered in the affirmative, stating that i will just have to fill a 'form A' and the funds will be transferred from my local account to the foreign(school) account but i'll also incur some bank transfer charges. When i calculated how much charges will be deducted from my account, I decided to get someone with foreign exchange trading rights to pay for me at a reduced charge from a different bank(Although there wasn't much difference in the end). My POINT is it's possible to make tuition payments without a dorm acc. Just be sure d total tuition and bank charges are in your account cos d bank charges will be deducted from your account. I'll advice u dont use a strangers dorm account as some people do, cos d school can only refund your money(if d need arises..but i'm hoping it wont) to d account you paid from.