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dejidotun2000:
please share the model number and nameplate of this freezer

Start up power draw is usually 167watt to 170watts. It then starts dropping and in less than 4 minutes, it drops to around 110 watts in most cases.

There is a second one (exactly the same product and model) with someone else that OCCASIONALLY starts up at 1,500 watts (yes 1.5kw) but immediately drops to 115 watts working power. Most times it starts up at the expected low180 watts. But I don't understand that occasional 1.5kw that makes it different from my own. A factory error I suppose.

mctfopt:
I don't think Powr is original neither is it fake. These guys just APPROACH manufacturers who makes controllers to them. They just slap their name on it. So it's just some little difference between the two. So buy whichever one you fancy, probably, the cheaper of the two.

I own a MakeSkyBlue product already. Just wanna make hands on comparison between the two to know who's lying. That's all.

Namzy:
Hisense fc260sh about 200l power consumption 67-70watts price about 75k give or take thank me later

This is impressive if it is really the fact. I can even sell the 6 months old Haier Thermocool for cheap and add some money to get this.

But are you sure your 70 watts is not the recorded consumption on a 24 volt power inverter system in which case the wattage consumption recorded is always half of the actual AC rating of the appliance.

Please the name plate on the appliance will be more persuasive. I am itching to dump what I have for this power saving feat of a deep freezer.

By the way, below is the name plate of the Haier thermocool. Start up power draw is usually 167watt to 170watts. It then starts dropping and in less than 4 minutes, it drops to around 110 watts in most cases.

Hehehehehe.

Laughing in "Minajese"

But is Jesus really Caucasian? According to history, the bible lands of Egypt and the rest were majorly dark skinned. So how did they conclude on a white skinned Jesus?

hardywaltz:
Thank you all for your response
We will be having a meeting with the installer in the days to come but in the office we settled with the following specs. (Basics)

96 nr 340w solar in 4S6P x 6 strings
6 nr Midnite Combiner box
6nr 250/100 Victron Smartsolar Charge Controller
3nr 48/15000/200-100/100 Victron inverter paralleled to give 3 phase.
9nr 48/13.8kw Lithium batteries complete with bms connected in parallel to give 124.2kw
Busbars, fuses, etc

But i assume the those big lithium batteries have in-built BMSes. At least I am dead sure of the 12v 100amps advertised to me before. I know the 24v and 48v nominal will equally have in-built BMS.

I may be wrong in my assumptions so I stand corrected.

Connecting another external BMS may disrupt the programmed algorithm of the in-built ones and the long term result of the clash may actually lead to an non-functional effective battery protection, eventually leading to early battery death.

And with that in mind, I wager your Installer may have included some unnecessary items, deliberately or otherwise, into the quotation.

dejidotun2000:
....

I think it's more than the 102 litres I quoted. Perhaps larger volume (around 209L or 206L or thereabout sha).

Currently away from home. I will snap the name plate when home at the weekend. Please bear with me.

Namzy:
This is main problem with that charge controller. How come there different voc for different battery voltage or is that the way the voc of a charge controller is calculated?

That strict range of different VoCs for different voltage systems put some question mark on the efficiency. It may raise suspicion that the efficiency at all VoCs viz-a-viz the voltage system may not have a linear relationship in efficiency. Energy may likely be wasted if one goes a higher VoC that that recommended for a particular voltage system. If not for that downside and maybe a few more that may be present, these guys would have been a good value for money. They've even come up with another product with in-built WiFi for remote monitoring.

m.aliexpress.com/item/4000007556126.html?trace

I still think of securing the PowMr just to know who between the two is telling the truth (Penn and Teller tell a lie )

The PowMr appears to have good reviews on Amazon though.

earthrealm:
equalization is only necessary if you have flooded batteries or you intend to install them in the future, if not, no need for the equalization function.

again, if your inverter has equalization setting, and you have utility power supply, that shud also suffice, 4hrs of equalization per month is the standard for most users

Thanks for coming through.

BetaTechnicians:
which one is local installer? shey there's foreign installer?

Neighbourhood installer I think. Compared to those that need to travel down from Abuja or Lagos to work. Those ones are "foreign or expatriates" And it reflects in their charges anyways. Foreign things.

adrusa:
That is largely true and it is because many "dealers" here are just middle men trying to make a living on enthusiasts who don't want to go to the market. I almost paid for 300W flame solar panels here until my local installer got them for me from Alaba for about 10K lower. What they do is to advertise goods in other people's shops as their own. It is the reason why they also try to put people under pressure to pay fast as the "stock is small". I personally would have preferred that this place is reserved for hobbyists and enthusiasts while marketers and middle men set up their own thread.

10k difference?!
That's enough change to get you some few meters of extra cabling o.

olaolu11:
No. Present one I'm using is AC pumping machine cable. Bit I will order the 10mm DC cable from my customer at Alana. He is selling dual-core 10mm for 750/metre. Will send pictures presently

Is that aluminium wires?

Pumping machine cables I know have copper conductors o, not aluminium. And maybe aluminium can still deliver enough juice for AC cabling, but in DC application, I think copper cabling is still best for efficiency, the recurrent watchword in solar set ups.

olaolu11:
Does it display % charge and battery % remaining?

Nope. I don't think most SCC do. Percentage battery remaining is usually in the purview of the inverters, as part of the manufacturing process. Basically the on screen information available on this SCC and indeed most SCC are the panel voltage, charging current, charging power (watt), battery voltage (V), temperature and maybe one or two other parameters that I can't recall right now.

There is also programmable option to customize parameters.

Now this issue of equalization mentioned by @ Namzy is a new angle to this. I think I need to do some more findings on that. Meanwhile, the MakeSkyBlue one has been running one of my modular units for about 8 months without issues. Thinking of trying out the PowerMr one (with their recent upsurge of accusations against MakeSkyBlue) just so to know who between the two is telling the truth .

But pending my investigation, I believe that if most PWM SCCs can boast a veritable equalization phase, then I see no reason why this MPPT should lack that feature. The only variation/downside in the charging process that I think it might suffer from is the DURATION of equalization, something which one of either the fangpusun or Epever products seem to have too (I stand to be corrected, but I think I have read something like that on here before)

@Earthrealm, what d'you think about this product lacking equalization?

earthrealm:
Seems the 2 companies are fighting, cos i have seen pics where the other maker labelled the other one fake, and theirs original ...
Seems it supports 48v and with 190Voc input voltage, it sure trumps the cheap 24v/50amp 100Voc fangpusun victron clone that has $103 landing price

They're just confusint everyone with their fight, one claiming authenticity and the other as fake.

olaolu11:
can that also be used?

I am also curious to know and I was hoping you could tell me.

That is about the armoured cable I know is accessible and ubiquitous. But I always assumed the conductor inside is aluminium in place of copper and that it is non-stranded - two things that make it inappropriate for solar installations.

Even the doctors 'emselves wish they had a better, more rewarding, less stressful, less vilified choice of preoccupation.

olaolu11:
Could you please give me a link to such. Thanks

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You will see reviews by Nigerian buyers yakpa for the product. Didn't know guys patronize dem far that place like that o.

durodee:
that is exactly what confused me. I did not buy an inverter ac, i got a regular ac from Jumia months ago and recently got the binatone AVS

Or maybe your newly purchased inverter is a 24/48 versus a previous 12v set up?

[quote author=olaolu11 post=80564747][/quote]Is that armoured cable you talk about the same type that is used to run household power supply from NEPA poles via underground route into houses?

olaolu11:
The present set up with 100ah carries me during sun hours but shuts off by about 6:30pm daily at sundown.

The good sun hours usage implies certain things.

You will need put your immediate and short term upgrades/modifications to include getting power efficient devices as replace, and upgrading your battery backup time (in no particular order of course),

The long term upgrade will be installing more solar panels.

olaolu11:
My landlord is very approachable and only comes once in a while. But the wife is something else. When they come home, hmm. And you know jealous neighbors would definitely download events to him/her. And all hell will break loose.

Women can be very sensitive on issues especially the land ladies. Women they generally are sensitive in everyday life. And while you may be able to easily convince the husband because of less difficulty with guys blending, the wife may have (I'd wager most likely as is common with male-female interaction model) have much influence on the husband.

Bro, as woman matter don enter am so, God is your strength o

durodee:
Had this Binatone appliance connected to my 1.5HP Polystar AC. The readings have been strange. When plugged on it reads zero watts and as the compressor kicks in, the reading starts from around 600w and then ramps it up to about 900w

I will love to have this type of yours. How can I go about it? Online stores? Walk in malls?

Thanks.

And that polystar 1.5hp AC seems to have a friendly power draw of less than 1kw at full blast. Is it inverter AC?

zeestone99:
Affordable all in one solar street light

60w- 23k
40w- 19k

Call- 08117398294
Chat - https:///2348117398294
Email - info@mazinegroup.com

More information will be appreciated sir.

* Panel sizes
*Chemistry of backup battery
*Capacity of backup battery
*Hours under solar insolation required to charge fully.
*Is it induction? (I think I can see a tiny PIR sensor in that picture). If yes, what modes are available?
*Hours of operation after dawn (at full illumination o, not on-off PIR induction or full-dim PIR induction.
*Dimensions of the item itself.

Forgive me if it looks like I'm asking too much. Just wanna know more 'bout the product.

sonnie10:
This is a step in the right direction as long as the constables are not deployed outside of their Local government.
More like community policing. If the 50 recruits from each LG are not able to figure out what is going on in their community, then know that the is a cover up somewhere. Infact this is one step towards state police which is what the people have been clamoring for .
Hopefully the legal frameworks is there to support this move. Nobody wants a situation where the courts would question their constitutionality.

Governors get about 300 million monthly as security votes, unvetted. If I were a state governor, I will surely use this opportunity to shine. 20 million per month kpere is enough to ginger these guys to work. I will place them on extra allowances and wages in addition to the FG's. I will arm them with tasers, tranquilizer guns, binoculars, radio equipments, bikes and all terrain 4 x 4's, place 'em and their families on good health insurance. Set up a fast judgement tribunal to try erring officers among 'em. Stay away from interfering in their work and give 'em some free hand to make arrests even if the erring lad was one of my family.

On their own part, they should go fortify 'emselves with adequate local assurances (jazz) and train well in setting bobby traps.

Let's see how one useless herdsmen or bandits will rear their ugly heads in my jurisdiction.

Another 40,000 bribe seekers. Strong institutions are needed, along with good remuneration to reduce that evil.

They should be dispatched as forest marshals to checkmate the use of our forests as camps by criminals.

400billionman:
Knowledge is relative.

Knowledge grows with time. In the future, people will travel back in time using the TIME MACHINE.

People today are only limited by what they know. What you don't know won't bother you. Knowledge also limits reach and sphere of control.

That does not mean things don't exist outside your sphere of knowledge. Or can you tell us why everyone is poor except few people ?

I was travelling the day I witnessed teleportation. The conductor of the bus went down from the vehicle. He wanted to buy food. All of a sudden the driver drove off. I personally told the driver that his conductor was still on the ground. He said don't worry. thanks in

After half a mile, the driver stopped and the same conductor claimed into the bus. No vehicle crossed us on this half mile trip.

Mr, Science, explain it. Happened years back.

The conductor took a bike transport and shortcut, most likely rational explanation.

I actually was expecting to read that the guy appeared right in the bus after the driver had driven some miles. Now that kinda scenario will definitely give something to think about.

My response however does not invalidate the likely existence of diabolism, metaphysical or "jazz".

lucind:
I have to share this here to know if anyone has experienced it, somedays ago a guy called me and told me his father mistakenly sent an airtime to my phone, I told him I didn't see any message on my phone, he said OK maybe it's network but once I see the message I should call him back, immediately he drops the call, message entered my phone,and it was written in Yoruba and I don't know what the message means except the numbers and it's from the same number he used to call me, immediately I sense some kind of fraud, I didn't call him back like he requested, then after 3 hours he called and said that he has loaded the cards, I said OK, then he said his Father wants to thank me for being a good Nigerian, I immediately said No, I don't want to talk with anyone, I cut the call, after the call headache ensued from nowhere, I started praying and I regained myself, I think this might be the same type of call the man received that landed him in Ibadan, JUST MAY BE!

Funny. The call didn't give you the headache, okay. But your reaction being the appropriate saved you long-lasting headache.

It's a scam that is also very mixed with diabolism. Once you agree to speak with the "baba" (who actually is one babalawo), he speaks gratitude to you interlaced with subtle incantations. There and then you enter into a trance and follow all instructions. They usually instruct their victims to meet them at a rendezvous point to, as they will term it, further show their appreciation for his/her honesty in returning the call credit. They will promise fortification against evil in exchange for money and the victim, having been enchanted will only oblige. The may keep at this for several days, collecting several tranches of money from the victim.and only let go when they feel they've had enough of their fill or when the victim's close associate notices something off and steps in.

I've had the same format of message sent to me twice, 4 yrs ago and 3 yrs ago. The first time, being naive, I texted back the message even before being called. Soon after, I was called and the chap at the other end says baba wants to thank me and pray for me. I just introduced myself to him as a man of God told him not to bother about praying for me the traditional way and I ended the call. Months later, I realized it was a scam format after hearing stories of many that had fallen victim.

The second episode, I blocked the number that sent it at once.

olaolu11:
House please advise on best way to go. I presently have 4*150watts solar panels(alaba), 40a and 60a pwn controller(ali express), 12volt 900vac luminous inverter(jumia), 4+ yrs old 100ah Leoch battery and 3week old 200ah mercury battery(alaba). My load is 1 LG flat screen TV(dont know the wattage but 1.1amps), fridge 1200watts, but not very sure, freezer(1250watts, not too sure),dstv, startimes and gotv decoder alternately used(5amps I think) , 8*5watts bulbs, blender(300watts), washing machine (320watts). TV is 12 hours, fridge and freezer 24 hours, others as the need arises and fan only dry season or when there is heat. I rewired the household to isolate heavy users from the inverter; only fans, TV and lights are on inverter. Others are powered by public grid or generator. I may likely retain this until I have upgraded to capacity to carry all which is when I move to my own apartment. We hardly have public supply in my area and it is intermittent which you can't even predict.

My array is stand alone. Distance is 12 feet from panel to wall, 20 feet ground floor to ceiling and 36 feet within ceiling to drop 7 feet to controller. All (approximate calculations) about 78 feet. I live in top flat of a 1-storey rental apartment so I am not permitted to punch landlords roof. And no chance to shift from present array location due to space constraint. The cable I use presently is join-join 1.5mm pumping machine DC cable which I connected to my old (4+years)100ah battery that gives me about 1½ hours daily. I power the battery with her as I don't want to connect the solar to the new 200ah battery until I get a good cable. The present array fluctuates between 0.2 and 4.5 read from charge conctroler. Only the 40amp controller is in use. The other is in storage.

Areas I need assistance is,
1. Do I buy new inverter of 2.4, or 3.5kva as the present inverter seems too small to charge the battery(will soon buy another 200h battery)
2. What is my cable size, 6, 10 or 16mm(consider future upgrade)
3. What accessories do I still need to get?
Thanks

PS pictures will come later

Bro, your set up (900va inverter+150watts x 4 panels) may just be sufficient for your TV (if it's 32" LED or 32"LCD) and a few lighting points (LED lights), and yes sufficient during sun hours but not with the spent 100amps battery. Though the 200amps new battery may suffice for extended back up of 6 hours after sundown but in that case I will advice you up your panel sizes in order to adequately charge your new 200amp during sun hours else it risks failing early. Your LG TV will most likely have power saving mode and I will advice you adopt that (a 32" LCD LG at full blast consumes around 80 watts, 40 watts at power saver)

You can get yourself a wattmeter to address the many "unsures" you have about the power ratings of your appliances. But I'll also add that you should plan towards replacing (either piecemeal or all at once) your gadgets to power saving ones.

Needed to set aside a 10-yr-old functioning 106 litres 400 watts Thermocool freezer for a 110 litres 114 watts 72 hours off power freezing capacity variant and it is hooked conveniently to 150 watts x 4 panels and 600 watts (1200 watts surge) inverter.

Also if you still intend to maintain that panel-SCC distance, then get cables with better gauges (those "join join" 3-core or 4 core pumping machine cables sold by our brothers are 2mm falsely rated 4mm and I realized that the day I saw the real 4 core in a solar shop). Doubling your pumping machine wires may work somewhat but not the best solution.

If you are on national grid with fairly good online time, you can buy a 20amps standalone charger to help augment your 200amp battery juice when you eventually start using it.

olaolu11:
The array is stand alone. Distance is 12 feet from panel to wall, 20 feet ground floor to ceiling and 36 feet within ceiling to drop 7 feet to controller. All approximate calculations about 78 feet. I live in top flat of a 1-storey rental apartment so I am not permitted to punch landlords roof.

You may nit really need to punch the roofs. If your panels are not too many or the big wattage types, installers may use binding wires to hold the panels securely in place, tethered to the original nails that were used for the roofs. The corrugations on the roof will give ample space for aeration and ventilation under the panels.

You just need to sweet talk your landlord to give in, explaining to him that not a single scratch will be made on his property in the process of installing your panels. You can even evangelize green energy to him by the time he sees how you enjoy with less noise from combustion generators.

Trippledots:
Yup..

Hmmm. I really can't be sure what you'd do apart from replacing the batteries to get it working again. Like I said earlier, those batteries will be available on those foreign online stores.

Okay, so I was able to do some checking after which i came to the conclusion that your battery may be Nickel hydride (Ni-H batteries have a nominal voltage of 1.2v, and are rechargeable). Also the price of it further reinforces the possibility of what's in your device being Nickel-hydride. Except it is expressly stated like it was in the manual that came with the sinometers, most manufacturers will wanna go with cheaper component options, in this case nickel-hydride batteries. The lithium variant is more expensive, shipping inclusive.

Lithium

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Nickel hydride

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terrymason:
What does 6kw/7.5kva means?

7.5kva x 1000 x 0.8 = 6kw

Trippledots:
mine doesnt come on again. i tire for the thing matter.

You mean the wattmeter doesn't come on again, even when plugged into the mains?