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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 6:46pm On Oct 09, 2018
coldgate:
Hello house, good to see that the properties section is still going strong. I would like anyone who has an idea on borehole construction to fill me in. It seems that there are several types of boreholes? I am not sure why i keep getting quotes that are so far apart. Someone said N250,000. Another person said that it is done for N350,000. The location is Kaduna. Thanks
You tried sending me a mail. About the borehole in KD? Don't have an idea. Just a visitor there
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 8:22pm On Oct 08, 2018
Kaybthaniels:
Boss, do you still have the contact of the person that did this your tank stand?, I will appreciate if you share his contact info with me...I am needing one for a 3bed flat too..Thanks
The guy has relocated to Enugu. I don't think he can work outside his station. He is a civil servant welder
Adverts › Re: TOILET SEATS/WC SETS HERE @EPIC_CERAMICS (with pictures ) by ceelog(m): 4:31pm On Oct 07, 2018
ThatHistoryGuy:
Hi sir
Its hard to point out the exact one you mean sir
Can you chat me up in WhatsApp so I can attend to you better PLS
The first brown tile. How much is it per sqm
Adverts › Re: TOILET SEATS/WC SETS HERE @EPIC_CERAMICS (with pictures ) by ceelog(m): 9:25am On Oct 07, 2018
ThatHistoryGuy:
How would you like your bathrooms
Lovely!!!
How much per sqm? The brown one?
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 6:49pm On Oct 03, 2018
rotecch77:
Not all tank you can raise.
Some tanks are concealed into the roof( to raise such tank means you need to pull off the roof where the tanks is located).
So the type needs another method.
There was a case where tank height is about 25fts for a bungalow low water pressure occurred the client bought pressure pump the issue solved but just a little diff, he call ed on us and we did it within a day .......the client is a well know Nairalander here.
At over 7.5meters and a bungalow...low pressurehuh I guess the pipping was done badly. Size of pipe? Route of pipe? There must be a physics explanation for such low pressures at that height
Properties › Re: Our Renovation Diary (a New Dimension To Nigerian Architecture) by ceelog(m): 8:59am On Oct 01, 2018
skimanski:
No not Binding Wire, Wood was Drilled to Ceiling with Screw Nails at Multiple points. It was a highly professional discussion for us to decide how to Hold it and Ensure its firm enough and at thesame time make sure the Nail Points are invisible since you are suppose to Look at it as a full clean board without nail Points
Wow...that's really gonna be a professional's duty to get it firm and fixed. That is a signature design and it's rare in most builds. Like I always liked your wood designs, I think you should also try glass designs too more often
Properties › Re: Our Renovation Diary (a New Dimension To Nigerian Architecture) by ceelog(m): 1:43pm On Sep 28, 2018
skimanski:
Kitchen Ceiling Design almost done
Skima please is it the same binding wire of the pop that is holding this mdf ceiling? Abi na another method? The stuff seems heavy in my eyes. But I love it sha
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 1:20pm On Sep 28, 2018
bixton:
I meant they prefer to take whole jobs especially if the distance from their house to site is far. That way if the bargain is right and if doing the job based on daily pay will take say 5 days. They will run it in 2 or 3 days and use d remaining for logistics/miscellaneous.
But the price is good.
Hope you speak or understand Hausa or whatever language they speak
I understand you now. They spoke English. I think their are From KD south
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 10:11am On Sep 28, 2018
bixton:
I think the pattern mostly in the north is the job is priced wholesome.
Every region has got their own labour rates which corresponds to their cost of living.
As long as the outcome of job done is good then it's okay.
Wholesome? Did you mean that the job I taken from start to finish?
Was just discussing with the masons this morning as I was passing by a site...they were more than ready to migrate and do a plastering for a duplex and the window hood.
They said that's how much they charge here in Kd...small or big job ooo
Properties › Re: Lekki Gardens Finishings. by ceelog(m): 9:50am On Sep 28, 2018
Hello Skimanski. What is the update on this project? Would love to see how that living room wooden ceiling design eventually came out.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 8:25am On Sep 28, 2018
bixton:
Size of windows matters sometimes. But if it's regular sized windows you can bargain for #2500 &#1500 . The more the windows, better less bargain.
Just shocked to find out that masons in Kaduna charge 500N nd 300N for big and small window hoods. Even plastering per partition is 800N. Labor is damn cheap here and the outcome is very usually very good.
Properties › Re: How To Calculate Hardwood Needed For Your House Roofing by ceelog(m): 9:55am On Sep 25, 2018
Greetings HSLBroker
I need your opinion on the following based on your experience in roofing

1. How true is it that harvested water from stone coated roof cannot be used for domestic purposes? Some say wait after 5 years? If yes, does this depend on brand?

2. If one cannot afford the Tower and First Aluminium brands for longspan or steptiles, what is your next excellent brand (s) you will recommend? Location is around Owerri-Orlu axis.

3. What is the leakage possibility between all the roof types even if it was done by the same person with a 0.45 Gauge?

Thanks
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 8:57am On Sep 17, 2018
Both qualities can't be seperated if we are going to class a build's quality.
And I agree I would rather choose workmanship quality over product quality. Workmanship quality goes a long way in determining final finishing of a house at lower costs

skimanski:
Quality of Materials is what I was initially talking about sir. Not quality of Workmanship. Quality of Workmanship is a Different discuss for another day. That one fit be like I dey preach. Because When I said, a House you think can finish for N45m if you give me N50m and Leave me, is that if I finish it with N50m It might Look like its finished for N70m.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:37pm On Sep 16, 2018
In one of your builds (can't remember which) you employed Nigerian tiles (assuming it's cheaper) flawlessly and it worked like magic.

Let's say in some aspects of the finishing you did such for some areas and then for some noticeable things like chandeliers, electrical fittings, furniture the person goes over the top. I bet you people will say the house was generally finished with high quality.

I have seen homes people claim to finish with humongous amounts of money...but you will spite it when u enter. And I am sure there are homes if we were told were finished with 80m and not the true value of 40m...many will fall for the lie.

Thanks for your comments however. We should strive for the best quality of any choice of material we need and at best prices.



skimanski:
To me Quality Depends on How Satisfied You are sir with what you have done, because Cost of quality is almost infinite. It depends on how you feel with the Quality you have done.

The List above for some people is High Quality. E.G. while for some people is good Quality, also for some people is Average Quality while obviously for some is Poor Quality.

Some of the List above is what Constitutes the Level of Quality, as the Items in those list varies a Lot with Price.

WINDOWS.
You have Imported Frames, Tower Frames, Leganise, EBM and Some others. They all vary in price.

POP:
Certain Designs are more expensive than others as they eat up materials and Labour time more than others. Some POP Designs eat up x2 of materials required to do other simpler ones

TILING:
Thats obvious na, you have tiles of 1000/Sq.m as well as tiles of 5000/Sq.m. I have installed tiles before that cost me 17,000/Sq.m to Purchase. So Quality differs.

Toilet Fittings
A China Twford W.C and Wash Basin Bowl is 22,000, There are UK Standard twford W.C and Wash Basin that cost N44,000. also there are TWFord W.C and Wash Basin that also Cost N180,000 as well as N75,000. They are just vary Largely. It depends on what you want.

Note oo, the Higher the Price the better the Look and feel oooo. You cant compare.

So quality of finish starts from Roofing and Windows to complete finish. So you can have a house that was Built for 37m still finish for 80m. it all depends on quality of finishing
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:25pm On Sep 16, 2018
Thanks Sir for your response. Also I thank Skimanski for his too.

I understand the points that were made where "quality is relative to the viewer" and that "more expensive items have a better feel".
I have observed from building and Diy channels (permit me to bring them in) that the oyinbo people (whom we derive all items from) are seeking to achieve high quality standards not by price but by aesthetics and functionality.

You see builds like "kitchen makeover that look like you spent 50k UsD" or "high end small houses built under 50k usd".
They seem to drive for perfection at lower prices.

I have a friend who did a replica of the psquare TV console (using high gloss hf too) and I am guessing he spent less than 30% of what psquare was charged. Does it make his own lower quality

I totally agree some items will be more expensive than others but I think mid price range of things with the best quality should be also regarded as quality.

Well but as Skima said..."quality it is in the eye of the beholder thus it's true validity remains questionable"
bixton:
It has to do with finishing and not the carcass.

With a value of 20M, its considered good quality.
Quality comes with grade and a price tag.

Some where on this thread a pro said he'll charge #50M but #45M will still do wonders. Because he knows the quality, grade and aesthetic feel the structure will give.

Now If one considers a duplex built/finishing with #20M as high quality, will that same duplex be on the same high quality if built with #50M?

Distinction is quite different from excellent.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:23pm On Sep 16, 2018
bixton:
It has to do with finishing and not the carcass.

With a value of 20M, its considered good quality.
Quality comes with grade and a price tag.

Some where on this thread a pro said he'll charge #50M but #45M will still do wonders. Because he knows the quality, grade and aesthetic feel the structure will give.

Now If one considers a duplex built/finishing with #20M as high quality, will that same duplex be on the same high quality if built with #50M?

Distinction is quite different from excellent.

Thanks Sir for your response. Also I thank Skimanski for his too.

I understand the points that were made where "quality is relative to the viewer" and that "more expensive items have a better feel".
I have observed from building and Diy channels (permit me to bring them in) that the oyinbo people (whom we derive all items from) are seeking to achieve high quality standards not by price but by aesthetics and functionality.

You see builds like "kitchen makeover that look like you spent 50k UsD" or "high end small houses built under 50k usd".
They seem to drive for perfection at lower prices.

I have a friend who did a replica of the psquare TV console (using high gloss hf too) and I am guessing he spent less than 30% of what psquare was charged. Does it make his own lower quality

I totally agree some items will be more expensive than others but I think mid price range of things with the best quality should be also regarded as quality.

Well but as Skima said..."quality it is in the eye of the beholder thus it's true validity remains questionable"
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 9:17am On Sep 16, 2018
bixton:
By the bold its likely not achieveable .

If you choose to say "good" quality you can add about #5--#7M to the initial amount.

Every quality comes with a taste, feel and how it appeals to the individual.
If I might ask Sir, what constitutes "high quality" when the house has been roofed?
Is it the level of finishing or the price of furniture and fixtures the house gets?
I really want to know if high quality means expensive quality.

Let's take for an instance (for. 5bed duplex), if I do the following will it be classified as good and not 'high quality'?

1. Good plastering and screeding
2. Casement window and embedded burglaries
3. Simple but Elegant pop
4. Mixed Spanish and Italian tiles (not the overtly expensive ones)
5. Paint with Caplux or Meyer
6. Good kitchen cabinets (mdf) and wardrobes
7. Toilet fittings (mid price range and quality)
8. Iron rails for stairs and balcony.

Now if I do all these with 15 to 20m after building and roofing the house with 15m, it still doesn't qualify as "high"?

Pls my question is for educational purposes.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 6:22pm On Sep 08, 2018
gbadexy:
No sir. not that I know of. cement plaster has a thickness and strength that screeding materials do not possess.
The screeding is just to smoothen the surface to a level cement plaster could never achieve.
But many things are possible with determination.
Smaller aggregate may be introduced into the render stage together with the sand aggregate to give you the smoother finish.
I know mixing ratio of 5:1 is possible with cement and smaller powder aggregate with some polymer binder.
Pop emulsion with the top bond type or any other pva binder could be introduced.
If you are adventurous, you may try it inside the security post to see.
If you give me the quantity of sand used for a back of cement, I could give estimate of pop emulsion and binder to add. polymer binders generally improve the flexibility of cement plasters and their bonding to surfaces.
I will reach you later to discuss this idea and try it with the store area and compare.
Properties › Re: A Record File Of Proffessionally Finised Homes And Styles by ceelog(m): 12:30pm On Sep 08, 2018
dubemcapital:
With view to the architectural designstyle and finishing trending worldwide, only few clients really knows what they want to build irrespective of the picture in mind.

Building is NOT that expensive though it can be stressful but as a posterity course is worth the stress.

This trend shows different building finishing and an idea of it's cost.

Building a good house is not just about the capital it's a combination of good judgment, good workforce and management (when you know where to get what you want and who to fix it right... You'll spend less)
I have always admired this house in Coal city. I tell my wife it's a mini castle.
Properties › Re: A Record File Of Proffessionally Finised Homes And Styles by ceelog(m): 12:28pm On Sep 08, 2018
dubemcapital:
Wonderful combination
No cost idea

Low cost housing *
Haba Bros this one low cost housing? With those expensive looking brick stones and tiles not to mention the overhang balcony slab design? Abi you get cheap versions of those stones?

Na better money enter this house Oga. Very lovely houses.
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:32pm On Sep 07, 2018
diordaves:
After the rains proper, I'm looking to executing the attached photo from you or something a bit orangy (orange). Let's see how it goes.
Good stuff and very luxurious look. Seems you worry less about lizards? Hate em.
Some peeps are also adopting this sand blasting on their plastered walls.
Properties › Re: Construction Diary Of Pile Foundation For A Residential Building At Coop Villa, by ceelog(m): 11:27pm On Sep 07, 2018
Aventures:
Find below the 3D and floor plans
Following Sir. 4 or 5bedroom?
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:16pm On Sep 07, 2018
gbadexy:
Alright sir, I look forward to that.
Greetings Gbadexy. Would like to know if there are (or you have) products that act as screeding products when directly used on blocks? That is, is there any plaster-screed product instead of doing both separately?
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 11:09pm On Sep 07, 2018
Hajivince:
I believe so for Carcass

Breakdown:
Strip & or Pad Foundation: 1.8m to 2.5m
Ground Floor Block work to Lintel: 1.5m to 1.8m
First floor RC(Decking) works: 2m to 2.8m
First Floor Block work to Roof Beam: 1.2m
I was really waiting for this breakdown. As you can see for yourself, even your 6-8m can't roof your 5bedroom duplex (let alone plaster and screed as claimed in your post.
We need to be mindful of the figures we throw around and not deceive people to venturing into a build they could never afford.

To me Spyder880's village 5BDp build is the best build to guide any novice. He even gave his material schedule for us to follow and compare.

I have crossed the 8m mark at the roofbeam and parapet phase and my project is being built by one of NL's best. It's a 4BDp

Conservatively for a rectangular simple 5BD with floorspan of approx 160sqm...I will say 10 to 12m to roofing. NB: Using engineers and not anyhow!
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 6:45am On Sep 05, 2018
Rubbiish:
Height & thickness are major factors determining cost.
But how many rooms or flat?
Will 200 gallons not be too small? is that up to 1000litres?
For one 3 bedroom flat. I pump water every 4 or 5days from the main 1000gallons. At least there is phcn to do that and I don't have idle water in the tank, less algae risk
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 10:18pm On Sep 02, 2018
igwedehxy:
Where did they cast?
The legs into the ground with rich concrete. More stone and granite and deep enough
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 10:17pm On Sep 02, 2018
Rubbiish:
What is size of the galvanized pipes?
Kai not sure again. Think it was 3inch pipe or so. The tank is just 200 gallons
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 10:40am On Sep 02, 2018
igwedehxy:
Plz I need an idea on how much scaffolding for standing water tanks can be made. The quotation I am getting is 130k to 150k. Plz help me confirm this
This tank of mine was done for the downstairs. Slightly above 4meters. Used galvanized pipes. Plus casting everything cost about 110k (Stand was 90k cast 20k). This was mid 2016.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 7:24am On Aug 25, 2018
Mgbadike80:
the plan is OK and economical.i found it interesting that you have no ante room and no second living room upstairs. these two things are rarely used and quite wasteful.
While I might agree with the ante room, I don't with the extra living room. My upper living room is where I spend most time with family away from the general living room always being visited by relatives, meeting guests and strangers. Ironically, there is no TV provided for the main living room (so as not to keep unwelcome people much longer in my house).

But as it is said "one man's meat is..."
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 7:19am On Aug 25, 2018
drkay:
Hello Sirs, I want to embark on this project, precisely next week. We're planning to move here from our 4 year old bungalow. Same city( Abeokuta) but different environment. The land is quite small, we have another structure beside the proposed building so we are left with this piece of land to build this. The project is going to be supervised by a builder. 3 designs were sent and I chose this. I just want to have an idea of what to expect in terms of cost. I told him that I want us to do it in phases.
The first phase will be from foundation to completion of the decking, second will take it to level and parapet, 3rd
will be roofing and all that and we continue like that, non stop (In Sha Allah).
Please what's the reasonable amount to expect in the first 2 phases? Any suggestion as regards the design?
Nb: the land was sloppy but it's been sand filled to level 1 year ago
Let me add my small 2 kobo critique (NB: I am not an architect, Engr or builder just a home construction enthusiast).

1. The number of doors from the living room to the visitor's room to the kitchen pantry are so much as 8...an architect can redesign that area to have less than 5 doors (less cost of doors to buy)
2. You will have to open 3 or 4 doors from the kitchen to get to the living room and dinning. Seems too much to me
3. Is the dining walled off from the living room? Why did you choose to do that? Why not open?

Well done and God's speed. I built a 4bed duplex too
Career › Re: How Can I Start A Career In Academics? by ceelog(m): 7:25am On Aug 06, 2018
DrTims:
I would like to be a Lecturer at any higher institution (college of education, polytechnic or university either public or private) How do I go about it and is there any private university recruiting. Please help a Nairalander sad
Prove yourself in your PhD and ABU or others will ask for you.
Academic excellence no dey hide

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