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Let me break your back my catholic friends:

http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_01.asp.

[color=#006600]You guys do not know your history. If you do, you wont remain there a second and would be blaming yourself why you had remained in that religion all this while. You have the opportunity to know the truth that you Pope and bishops wont tell you. Read the whole book for yourselves beginning with the frst chapter. The history is babaric to say the list.

I commit you to the hands of God.[/color]

i appreciate this a lot thanks. Will comment on this later.

Could it be that it was because Christ foresaw what could happen later about Catholics and others emphasising MAry that he decided to start rebuking Mary openly? In several instancs he rebuked her openly so that people would not think that she has a special place in his heart?

macalurs:
I'm late here but I think I can still add this.

man needs religion. Every human has a void, created by our consciousness, we seek to fill.

based on the simple logic i've put forward, the Bible is complete, but to christians. Not every sacred text was included in the bible however. Sacred texts are still written today-- through inspiration of "God", but will go unrecognized, because the readers of the Bible are ok with the way it is. simple.

I think you have a fair talk.

You guys dont know nothing until you join them. Then for fuller comprehension, seek to become a prophet/seer in the church, then you you will see things and run things. Let th prophets among them on this forum come up and talk. I have been there and out and i know things a little.

you c, nnube tree has started taking its toll on you guys.

Still waiting dear pilgrim,

Cool. I'm glad. What is his name and what is yours if i may ask. I mean your full names?

i tire o!

Obviously, many catholics do not know the origin of Mary-honouring. They also do not care to even know whther it is biblical or not. Why?

[b]Someone [/b]said what God has joind together, let no man put asunder and dissociated it from marraige. Ok then. What circumstances or exampls of such do you have in our lifetime that you think Christ was referring to?

larriederm:
THANKS FOR THIS QUESTION!
we read psm 65 vrs 11. the word of god said: HE CROWNETH THE YEAR WITH GOODNESS AND ITS PATH TO DROP FATNESS! meaning that this remaining months ''ber'' is going o be for the beliver months of remember. not month of calamity as people use to say. halleluyah.

please how can i raise question to people in these forum? thanks

larriederm, which church do you go to. We used that sam scripture in church on Sunday.

Yea abbeyboy ,

you ar being open and honest. How long hav u being in the catholic church? Which particular practices are you not comfortable with? Just be open and let us engage in an intellectual convrsation. We would weigh them together against the scriptre. Meanwhile, also point out those things you think some protestants do that are idolatary in nature.

Love you with the Lov of Christ.

Do you know Celestians also celebrate Holy Mary? I know the yhave a full week for Mary. I think a knowledgeable celestian should tell us why.

Unfortunately none of our friends are online now. ebos, angelgirl, oby, lawyer, etc. Please send me links to the papacy pilgrim. You can send to crownsgift@yahoo.com if you do not want to put it hre now!

W should start canvassing for state police. It will reduce thes disgrace enormously.

OBY OBY,

I hail you o! Why you de rage like this? Calm down my sis.

I can tell you vividly that it is not possible to say you are worshipping God truly in the Catholic church that bows down in worship of Mary and looks up to her to mediate for them. It is also not coherent to say you will first go to pugatory [/b]and [b]suffer [/b]and be [b]cleansed [/b]b4 you will now go to heaven and you say you are of Christ? Did Christ teach that? [b]BIG NO. Did God not tell you not to make anything image not to talk of bowing down to it?

You obviously do not have boldness to call Christ abba Father, cos it seems [/b]the experience of the Holy Spirit is not with you guys. Are you afraid of Christ that you can not approach him directly and you have to go through Mary, your [b]mediatrix?

Who has also told you that Christ is angry with you because of your sins and needs to be calmed by Mary? Mary was a sinner like every other person as at that time. She had to do what all other Isrealite women did by going to the temple to have her sins cleased after the birth of Jesus. How can someone who was also a beneficiary of the saving grace of Jesus the Christ through the cross now turn to be an intercessor? Are you saying that Mary is excluded from work of the cross of Jesus? If that is your submission, then it is a doctrine of demons.

See:

Luke 2: 21 ¶And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord
24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.

She was impure! She was a sinner like you and me before the death of Christ! How can someone who was a sinner like me claim to be a mediator when he is not better than me!

You need to open up I guess. You obviously have doctrines of men (plenty) in the Catholic church since they are no where to be traced to in the bible.

Lt me even ask you? What assurancs have you ever received from Mary all these years you have been honouring her?

Thank pilgrim.1, your post was right on spot. Oby, you need the assurance of salvation, you guys ain't gotten one yet! God help you. God help me.

Thunder! Clash of the gods; lawyer vs pilgrim.

On a more srious note, lawyer, your appraoch would be taken as an escapist style when you tend to use a question to avoid a question. Slandering petecostalism on a thread which says Re: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? aint the best set of responses.

It will be highly appreciated if you can start your grouse with pentecostalism on another thread where we shall be waiting to engage you in a full blown discussion. In the interim, you will need to face boldly, "the accusation levied against you" by "pentencostals" concerning your doctrines as a catholic including but not limited to what i have summarised here:

1)Who decreed that Mary to be worshipped by the Catholics
2) Was it pope's ingenuity that inserted for her to be called a mediator thereby rendering the cross of Christ of no effect?
3) Who instructed the church authority to include do these things when they are obviously in defiance to what the Holy bible teaches.
4) "Pugratory", is it scriptural ? I havenot seen it in any of the 66 books of the bible. Probably there are other books in the exclusive preserve of the catholics which corroborates that doc trine. If suitable answers cannot be proferred, it would suffice that most practices in the catholic church are man-made. Q.E.D

Pleas lets take this discourse intelliectually and refrain from derogs.

I am still waiting, who creatd your planet X?

What do you mean? You believe in the supernatural yet you do not Believe there is a God? Tell me th little you know about the supernatural realdosh.

about 33 years.

i tire for them o.

If your Annuqui came to planet arth to search for gold, they cant be omnipotent then. that means also that thy are very limited. Who created the planet earth then?

Idinrete,

Whoevr told you peter hated Paul. The fact that you have misunderstanding with somebody does not mean you hate him. Does it?

Horus,

Its better for you to remian with your 'facts'. You cant comprehend Christ, because this your analogy is very lame.

Darkmatter, please go deeper. LEts know more.

LORAIN:
Hmmmm. Interesting discourse by u all.

Who be this now

have you heard dekunle fuji recently?

Mo like Jesu gan,
Mo nife Jesu gan,
Mo love Jesu gan,

Lele lele lele,,

Ko ma roll,

Jesus rocks!

wetin carry you go CCC?

whats that

realdosh:
But the issue of God being the source of miracles is a lie, tell me if its really God, why do pastors and others go to black magic instead of the foucus on God.

You hav just contradictd urself. Infact ur name should be realcontra. The topic says, , existence of miracles. If you believe that "black magic" exist and has power to do wonders, that is a miracle and your believe proofs that miracles do exist.

On another note, if by your assertion, black magic exists, then it will tak a fool to say that if there is a negative, then there cant be a positive. By inference, black magic implies asomething suppernatural. So you believe in the supernatural. You are therefore not an atheist as you claim.

who go catch [b]obj [/b]now?

kilasos:
@cgift
wow,i thought of that.he just send me a message saying that.

I hope you guys have seen urselves behind the curtains and agreed on modalities to still hold on why you pray?