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With this despration about pilgrim's personals, i am sure [b]ebos [/b]will believe even a lie

cgift:
Mizieya,

You could do better than these your sumissions. You do not believe in God yet you believe in gravity if you can't see it. How did gravity come into place? Explain the phenomenon of death for instance. Let me see how surely you can hold on to this lifeless lifestyle of being an athesit.

Mizieya,

I am still waiting.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=22923.msg1490081#msg1490081 date=1189633346]Those of us who enjoy long periods of health should be thankful to God for His sovereignty - but our experience does not mean that Pastors do not fall sick, or that only baby Christians do. [/quote]Yes, we should thank God for his sovereignty truly but mind you, with the numerous promises in the scripture, God is telling us that falling sick is now by choice and not in his plan for us except if it is from God himself for the purpose of trial of faith or sickness unto death.

I yarn for more please.

[quote author=m_nwankwo link=topic=22923.msg1489865#msg1489865 date=1189628277]It is erroneous to assume that good health is a sign of being a christian. Any person who still wears the physical body can fall sick and it has nothing in most cases to do with his or her spiritual state.[/quote]I acquisce.

[quote author=m_nwankwo link=topic=22923.msg1489865#msg1489865 date=1189628277]There are evil people that are healthy, their are also those that are unhealthy. Similarly, their are God fearing people that are healthy and others that are afflicted with one sickness or the other.[/quote]Affliction of God fearing people (i will assume you mean children of God) by sickness can be baseed on this fact:

There are two levels of the Children of God; a) Those who know their God and b) those who dont.

a) Knowledge of God in this category means those who have been able to grow their faith spiritually to the level of God's kind of faith and also know God's provision concerning health and healing and welfare in the overall package of salvation. Salvation is a package of gifts just like a typical wedding gift. Until, you open the gift pack, you wont know and therefore be able to enjoy what gift it is. You must first know that the gift exists and then also know how to use it.

There are several scriptures that promises health divine, but knowing them in your head is one and agreeing your spirit man with it is another thing before the mixed with faith. When mixed with faith and obedience to God and you know the promises, you cant miss it. Before it settles, you will tell it to go and it shall obey you. See Dan. 11:32.

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might [b]know [/b]thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The knowldge is not had knowledge but undrstanding the spirit behind the word.
b) If you do not [b]know [/b]God, though you are serving him, when sickness comes, it will stay.
c)When children of God sin, it also brings sickness attimes. Remember, sickness only came in when man sinned.

It is also important to note that, though we have power over sickness, the children of God must also live a good life and fulful good health/living habits so as not to test [/b]God. By doing that, you are leaving no room to the enemy.

[quote author=m_nwankwo link=topic=22923.msg1489865#msg1489865 date=1189628277]Wheather healthy or sick, a true servant of God should be thankful for the experience he is permitted to undergo even when it is unpleasant. If he really have faith, then his sickness can be healed by the power of God or he comes to the recognition that the sickness is necessary for his own development. Not all sickeness are meant to be healed.[/quote]True, when a man of God falls sick, he must ask himself what is the sourc of this scikness. Is i God's will, if yes, then let it have its course, if not, it must be driven out. If he has sinned, he must confess and seek forgivness because, [b]the curse causless shall not arise

A scripture that i have used in praying for people on their sickbed who experienced instant healing is [color=#006600]Psalms 18:44 As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me.
45 The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their close places.[/color]. And it has worked wondrs because i use it strong faith.

orobo 50cl:
you people just like to talk rubbish sha! Anytime una see catholic forum, una prick go just stand and get erection to de yan rubbish about catholics. today na born again, tomorrow, them de worship statute, next week, them be pagan! How that one concern you and them?

Orobo shaaarrrrrrrpppp!!!

Wetin you dey yearn? If ordinary 50cl pepsi or coke dey shack you, i wonder wetin go happen to you if you take gordon sparks? (_{kidding though})

orobo 50cl:
Shebi una say una de follow christ and be God pikin, why you no worry about whether you go enter heaven first before other people. Abi you wan save others come go hell?

Christainity (not catholicism) is so simple that you do not need to have manmade teachings infused and pushed down ones throat in order to know and enjoy Christ. The promise of heaven is so sure and more real than any physical object; thanks to God who sent his Holy Spirit during pentecost. The Holy Spirit guides, teaches, comforts the true christain. It is the absence fo the Holy Spirit of God that is making Catholics stick to a physical mode of worshipping (only God knows what because too many doctrines/teachings of theirs are completely unscriptural).

There is no shaking concerning heaven.

orobo 50cl:
Abeg mind your own business and face your own church and it's doctrines and leave catholics alone

We wont need to mind our business because it is criminal, sinful and unlawful to see what is wrong (in this case millions of people queing up for 'pugartory' (another wrong doctrine) and not comment. So any scolding, rebuttals you see here is more often than not, borne out of love.

My brother welcome.

You can find answers not only from your muslim brethren but also from 'infidels'

ID olajide:
1). Which is the correct way: Rasululah (SAW)-may be peace and blessing of ALLAH (SWT) be upon him,or Prophet Issa(AS),-he with whom the peace and blessing of ALLAH (SWT) has been with)?In case the quetion is not clear,what is the in the meaning of SAW & AS.

Your greeting clearly ( i mean without any ambiguiyty ascribes more honour to Jesus than to Muhammed. To your own messanger of god, it says let peace and blessing go to him. - They are praying (to Allah, i suppose) that it should be upon him. They are not sure if it is on him, they are praying.

To Prophet Issa, (i.e. Jesus Christ) they are not praying for him, the are declaring that it is already on him.

They obviously acknowledge the supremacy of Jesus Christ over Muhammed. Why settle for less?

ID olajide:
2). What does the moon and star that is always on the top/minaret of mosques stand for?

To this i will state from a source, (read down and pick the link at the bottom of the post)

Islam's origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religionof the worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc[b]. These were pagan rites practiced by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born[/b]."

"What religion today practices the pagan rites of the moon god? Islam! This explains why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is placed on top of mosques and minarets and displayed on hats, flags, rugs, amulets and even jewelry. Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god."

http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/.

My brother, run for your dear life and come to experience reality not some fables. The Quran substantiates and places Christ far above your Muhammed. Christ was certain about his destination (heaven), Muhammed was not sure.

In summary, it is simply idolatry (the demon who is referred to as the moon god, obviously finds its subjects i nthe muslims of today because they are doing his bidding. It is rather pathetic, do not believe m, check it out yourself. Seek to know your history. Your imams wont tell you this, probably bcose they have sold out!

I hope this helps ID olajide.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=22923.msg1488841#msg1488841 date=1189609218]Lol. . Pastors are human beings like every other person with flesh and bones. They also fall sick - but the wonderful news is that there is healing in the name of Jesus Christ. [/quote]The ones who know their God (and do exploits) and do not gt sick but only get tired. You dont ever see them on a sick bed, they only sleep and wake up for 20 years without a single dose of drugs. I am a living testimony to that it is ot hear say. Divine health is real and you can live without falling sick if you [b]know [/b]your God.

But it is not for baby christains anyway.

They only capitalise on God\s loving kindness and longsuffering to say all those kinds of rubbish. Yet, they think it is a sign of incapacitation or non-existence. They need to know that " the gentleness of a lion is not an act of cowardice. It is watching and strategising on how best to strike.

My Christ is the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

I can imagine them trying to cast out demon and sayng in the name of Mary

They emphasize works as a means of salvation thereby nullifying grace. To many wrong things causd by men's doctrines. Pagan's took over like someone said and infused it with demonic doctrines that were being practisd back in the days in order to transmute people from pagan worship to God.

For instance, it was pagan worship that had the statute of a woman (presumed a virgin) carrying a child. In order to make the worshippers of this religion "accept Christ", they had to import / borrow that aspect of pagan worship from them to woo them to their side. The trick worked. Many catholics do nto know their violent history to say the least.

They do not know the relationship they have with Islam and other occultic religions of the past. They simply are too simple to know.

ebos:
Pilgrim of all these women you mentioned and compared with Mary, it’s a known fact that no Angel of God or Prophets addressed or greeted them as being Hail and favoured one, FULL of Grace. I hope you understand the word FULL. It simply means complete, that is every part of Mary from Head to Toe was filled with grace of God. That’s Mary Special. My Mother, she entices me so much and I love her and will continue to do so.

You obviously do not love God with all of your heart, soul, and might. You are sharing Christ's place and work with Mary. God is a jealous God. A sign shall be given to catholics and many who are objective will see and know that Christ is the Way, not Mary. Many of these things are the traditions of men since you cannot justify them with the sam bible you wrote.

I can Mary's heart bleeds due to this derailing. Mary was not perfect mind you.

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I had thot you would be able to tell the ownrship history of any car involed,

leslexx,

Be careful. Many have gone. I am still struggling to recover my money from this people. The fraudulent ones far outweigh the honest ones.

Once again, be careful, many have gone.

you must be a very rich man contmplating marrying more than a wife despit all thse "awry" economic coditions

My bible has more than is needed for my salvation.

Mizieya,

You could do better than these your sumissions. You do not believe in God yet you believe in gravity if you cant see it. How did gravity come into place? Explain the phenomenon of death for instance. Let me see how surely you can hold on to this lifeless lifestyle of being an athesit.

dem dey play he song on D# (D Sharp). I no haer MAry voice too

i do believe in hell. Hll is the grave.

Backsliding,

Remembr what the scripture says;

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

It is not in your hands to condemn these people. God has his plans. I understand your position and i have it on recorded prophecy that many of the aclaimed Men of God (MOGs) shall soon be shamed despite their huge popularity. But wait for God to do his work. It is not in your hands. And in case you might have even sinned without knowing, just ask God for forgiveness.

You too, i can read in between the lines: you seemed to be far away from God but usd to be with Him. Do not hesitate to right the wrongs as God is waiting no mattr your experience.

You guys are really ignorant of the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. I pray God opens your eyes to see him in his grace and love. Remember what happened at the garden when Jesus was delivred to his captors, on of his disciples drew his sword and cut off the ear of one of the captors. JEsus rebuked him and said he who kills by the sword shall die by the sword.

He then put back the ear.

Whatever he did in the old testament was for a reason. It would have still continued to this day if Jesus had not come. That is what some of our brothers in other religions importeed and still thinks God supports a violent cause.

Jesus is the only way.

God is not happy when a sinner dies.

Backslider His name makes me "cringe"

He is overtly raw in his submissions. For starters, i would want [b]backslider [/b]to tell us how he came about his username so that we do not liken him to a wolf in sheep's clothing.

i concur too.

"ageless" pilgrim . How you dey today? [b]Lawyer [/b]don give you name. How is Moses and Abraham doing, they seem to b your friend.

omo a no fit laugh for office. dem think say i dey kolo!!

Rolling on the ground already. This is so much relief after the heated arguments. Enjoying you guys honestly.

my wife na their fan. Lovely prog anytime dudes.

[b]seskee,

[/b]Be careful. Many have gone.

Several thousands of people who made same remarks and are today on th other side? When God catch you, you go sabi say you dey miss.

Do not take refuge in Mary. Seek refuge in Christ. The ones that are far more knowledgeable than you in this game of Catholicism cannot tell us whose example they are following in the same bible (they profess to have compiled for the protestants) by honouring Mary. They cannot tell us why they have killed and burnt people alive who refused to acknowledge that the bread and wine being used in their communion was the real flesh and blood of Jesus but only symbolic. They have not told us whom they have copied amongst the Apostles (even if it their first proclaimd pope, "Peter) how to make graven images.

Too many things left unproven. You do not know things down here. You need to go to th Vatican to learn that the Vatican is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Dont get offended. Just ask me for proofs if you care to learn more.

PAstor Tund Bakare could have said somthing impending but averted when the recipient heeded to som advice. For Pastor Chris, i think h would allow such a paltry sum (N39m) to demean his image. Moreover, thre are security organisations like the police and the EFCC that would have been consulted to retrieve the money they (where it was stolen from) actually deem it fit.

Now, pleas note that we are all humans and we make mistakes often. No body therefore has the right to call a man of God a liar or a thief. Leave that to God to judge. God uses us inspit of ourselves.

All of you, go to bed.

feelgood:
Hello m'hearties,
is no one interested in the quiz again? or are the questions difficult?
This silence is quite discomfitting

lol, your question hard now.

Gen. 2 : 23 - 24.

Adam was satisfied with wife when God brought her to him.
He namd the woman herself.
Yet he blaMED God for giving her to him when he was supposd to admit his mistake.
Eve was very submissive despite allegations; she uttered not a word.
We men behave same way today. The woman we saw, loved, and claimed to be the best woman in the
world and took to the altar, is the same woman we now say is good for nothing. Did she chang ovrnight and what caused the change?

Summary;
Singles, LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP.
Married, THINK BEFORE YOU TALK.