Natalie:

Cucci, it's for you:

What about me? Can't Cucci & I at least fight over him.

Michael. . .that's a creative name for a girl. I like it. . .

Now, does this mag have a website or summing. . .is it overseas yet?? Just wondering. . .

Come on guys, approach this fellow w/ an open mind. Maybe he's doing a school project or summing. . .

AfriCANTS <------------ I like that term. Might borrow it from you.

But I'd be wary to blame anyone (else) for an individual's mentality. Some people are quite content w/ their inferiority complex & would have one w/ or w/o white folks. It's a product of their personality & personal experiences.

Zimbabwe is a complicated case place. . .

Yes, now I remember the story. I watched Will Smith the night he said that though I didn't get the point at the time. What he's saying rings true. Neither him or his story deserves my criticism. He's doing something positive for the world.

When I hear controversy about men's hairstyles I think: homophobia.

When I hear controversy about footballer's hairstyles I think: match fixing.

Hatas throwing salt in the game!

@Hero
No, I've never read it but I just wrote it down. Man, you got a better book list than Oprah right now.

mamaput:

chinani how do you think a mother or father will feel if they hear the child denying were they come from

How do you thik i will feel if my kids say "Am german but my mum is Nigerian" And in my case am only half Nigerian.
The two smaller ones say there mum is Nigerian only the big girl knows whats all about.
But guess what no one that has not seen me belives her

@Mamaput & Drusilla
I would not feel good about it at all. I want my children - don't have any currently - to feel that they're Nigerian too. But I would not feel good about the teacher either. It would be the teacher who I would have words with. WHy? Because I grew up the only Nigerian girl at my school. I know what it is to be African in America. And I know that the treatment is worse in the NE US than in Texas. There was a year - 2nd grade, 7 yrs old - where I just survived. Sure I made all A's but no one liked the African girl. So let every child have his weapon, his mode of survival. That man who questioned does not know if the other boy's beat him on the bus or whatever, so he should leave well enough alone. It is the parents who will be pained by his rejection of heritage. Let them deal with him. If they educate him & nuture him as a human being it will not be forever. You said "only the big girl knows what [it is] all about" . . . well I do not know you're children, this is pure innocent speculation but perhaps she knows b/c she is a big girl. I think ppl come into things by themselves. At 9, it is bit young to be making public demands, in this boys case.


My point was that the boy is still young & he just wants to fit in right now. It is not easy to be an apple among the acorns. You may almost thing you are an acorn too. It is the parents' child let them deal with it. It's their palava anyhow.

@Drusilla
Well one of the things that irks me about A.A.s is that most of them, particularly celebrities (w/ the exception of Oprah) only mention the Africa or the African Diaspora to comment on the adulation of African Americans. I suppose there's nothing else of merit for them to say about Africans, abi?

Drusilla:

mamaput,

I have a friend from Kenya, out in boston, who knew it was all over, when he tried to force the only Continental African child in his class to talk about his African culture.

The child had a fit! Almost coming to tears!

He said: I am African American. I am not African!

How old was the child? What grade?

I ask b/c Boston is a very racist city (let's not kid ourselves). Also, not being African/Nigerian, I don't think you can imagine the abuse African (Nigerian) children take up there in schools. . .

What right has your friend to force anyone?

Drusilla, I see my mistake! Thank you. First the science, now the reading, what will I confuse next

spikedcylinder:

Some other things i would lke to add:If you have lots of colour or make up on your eyes,keep your lips simple and vice versa for your lips.

Great tip spikedcylinder!

@Drusilla
K, now I get what you're saying about Albino kiddies. Bio 101 was long ago for me. Thanks.

Could you please post here the sentence that said it is related to physical features? I think that bad wording of something that was said, may have made you think this is what the scientist said. I can not be sure unless I see where exactly in the article you think the scientists are saying this one gene is responsible for facial features, hair type, etc, etc.

This one gene is only responsible for part of the skin color change, not everything different about whites.

As far as the facial features, here's a complete paragraph from page one (my emphasis):

"The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races."

The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races.

I for one, do not think that facial features are race specific. In fact I made the contrary argument months ago on Nairaland so we're in agreement.

Damsel said it all!!! Smart lady!

I'm not a guy, so I'd say finding a good man is harder than finding a good job. What makes a job good is the fact that we can leave!!! We are willing to stay for a few years then start our own biz, go back to school or move up the ladder but the promise of change makes it more than bearable. A husband on the other hand is (hopefully) forever. . .and parting ways shant be pretty, so that decision is more troublesome etc. etc.

Vincent Enyeama wins!!!!!!!!!!
He's divine masculinity wrapped up in chocolate! Hmmm, chocolate, my favorite,

@Reba
Hey girl! How are you It seems we're never on at the same time! Well congrats on your nuptials! Will it be July or August? Best of luck w/ your man too! (I'm guessing he's the white one?) Which where do you live in SA? Much love!

@Cucchi
The wise ones have already spoken. Don't let go of love! You sound like your head is on straight & you have a moral center. You know what matters & what doesn't. You're well-armed my dear. Good luck.

Bibi:

On the tallest tree in Nigeria, where the Queen slept when she was in Nigeria in 1957?

Oh, I think I saw a pic of that. . . I think, so I'm not sure. But that'd be sooooooo cool!

Well I'm against the death penalty so why should I endorse killing students? Let 'em live.

mochafella:

erm, you would be 111!! Stop inflating your age

Really? Well thanks! You're still young but for me, the math was 1st to go! I'm still a hott girl!

[size=16pt]Kenya!!! [/size]

I've never been there but I saw a resort there on t.v. And then another one in a magazine. In the mag, elephants walk t/o around NOON! I hope I make it there before the elephants change their routine!

@Hero
I took some time to go through the links you provided.
This link: http://www./Biafraland%20Invitation%20to%20Ibo%20Landing%20dedication%20ceremony.htm
is simply an invitaiton to an event. Nothing can be substantiated from this accept the time, place and dress code.

This link: http://www./ibo_reunification_train_rolls_on.htm is also from the Ekwe Nche Organization (of Chicago). Chi-town folk, please stand up. This link also meant to be taken w/ a grain of salt. They are blowing their own horn stating "Most of the slaves brought to America and the rest of the New World came from west Africa. A good number of these slaves in turn came from Igboland." A good number? "A good number" does not equal a majority. And yet in the next line, the writer states: "In fact, an estimated 80 percent of the slaves transported to such southern U.S. states as Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Virginia are Igbos." The writer is obviously confused as he just contradicted himself in the same paragraph! Bottom line, this page is not meant to be taken as Gospel! Instead it is at once legitimazing ndi Igbo in America and inviting Black Americans to the African Diaspora.

The link about the Nsidibi ideograms & headstones in Virgina is good stuff. Thanks. It's precisely the sort of stuff that I was talking about. I did a lil Google work and there are even fans from the 50s and artists in the South used the Nsibidi ideograms symbols - unbeknowest to them - in their work. I think this is proof that Igbo slaves were in the Americas but not that they were in the majority. Anyhow sha where I'm from, we don't mark graves w/ headstones, so it could be the people buried are not Igbo but asked someone skilled in Nsidibi to decorate Mummy & Daddy's grave (b/c it was lovely & affordable).

Murder At Montpelier: Igbo Africans In Virginia <---- This book I'll have to read. I don't dispute it b/c I don't dispute that there were Igbo slaves in the Americas. However, when a man starts to write about the "The importance of Igbo among the colonial slave population" he is being more than "controversial" but foolish. Yes, it is foolish to think that those who seek to dehumanize a "race" of people would think "No Edo people please, I prefer Igbo slaves. . ." That's cognitive dissidence. . .

The link about Equiano you've sent to me before on another thread. I thank you again. I did a Google search for book reviews & read some more. It is conversial to say the least. From what I understand - correct me o! - Carreta, the author, bases his book on 2, count 'em, 2 documents. One is a Baptismal record when he is already 12 years old! At 12, he'd had been in American maybe 2 or 3 years. You accept the hands, script, document of white slave keepers at fact and never question if the age if factual not to mention the birthplace. What makes you think that slave masters who change names would not change birth places? That is asking too much for me to believe. The other document, is a document from a ship where he's birth is written as "South Carolina". There is no reason why this document should be right or wrong. My own orginial birth certificate claims I was born in 1894! I'm the best looking 121 year old there is!

Back on topic, I think Carreta is wrong. He himself finds that everything else Equiano wrote in his autobiography is correct yet he wants the reader to believe that Equiano used his imagination to create a quasi- travel narrative b/c . . . .being born an American slave isn't interesting enough? Na wa o!! Someone should've told Freddy D. . .

Nice link Drusilla. My favorite part was on page 1:
"The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races."

Because I personally think that if "light" skin is "new" in so much as it "rose" in humans after dark skin, then it "rose" independtly many times (<2) times. Anyhow, it's interesting stuff.

But I don't see where it stated that albino people can only have "albino" or white skinned children?

And - the reason I marked some of it in red - let's not forget "albino" people, only have white skin, blue eyes (whatever) not "White" features. . .For this reason, "albino" people are not the forefathers of Europeans, in respect to the article, b/c the article & scientists say that the pigment change was correlated to the change in physical features which is not evidenced in albinos.

otokx:

i hate speculations.

Then you hate Michael Jackson. The man is just speculations and black weave at this point.

@mikun
So only marrieds can speak on this thread? We should all just shut up until married? I guess life doesn't start until I get a husband. . .does anyone have a man who can validate my existence while relieving from the weight of my check? Please, I'm desperate!!!!

Ok, all kidding aside, I'm not saying it's a big deal. I'm just saying that both partners can submit both their checks to the family piggy bank. If it's not a "big deal" that should "break marriage" why doesn't your husband submit his check to you? But perhaps you've never asked. . .perhaps he can't speak on it until he has a husband of his own for vaildation.

ddizzle:

I feel what you are saying but ive seen genny backstage without makeup infact it was the end of a show!! and she still looked fine as ever even me that wore makeup i was embarassed lol

How did you see such a thing? LOL!

Food4tot, nice points. I suppose that was said for my benefit?

@USnaijaGirl & Topic
One thing I wanted to add about albino people is that as you know in the past there was bias (prejudice) against them (and their lineage). So a woman known to have albino children would be shunned (her children placed in the Evil forest). Her non-Albino daughters might have probs finding husbands and only be accepted by men who also have albino strains. That makes sense to me & I think it's why so so many families have multiple albino (daughters).

It's all genetics folks. I think "we look like our people". But Igbo ppl prolly carry an equal number of "dark" & "light" genes. Maybe our "light" genes are stronger than White folk?

I have several set of cousins with blue/hazel eyes and white/light skin. They're not albino though. However, all their family members aren't light. Generally their dads look like this and their moms are just medium brown - darker after farming - and varying shades of brown eyes. THis is what I mean about "light" genes winning out when the "dark" ones are dominant.

@Drusilla
I think that pic is of a light skinned person not of a "yellow" albino.

@Drusilla & Food4tot
I don't exactly think that white ppl are secretly black albinos. For one, there is no proof that black albinos will (can) only have "albino" or white looking kids. Au contrarie, these ppl still look quite Igbo & so do their children. And the children "rejected" in yesteryear where not given to anyone but death.

@Nia
You can change your gender just got to the "Please update your profile!" button at the top of the page.