mochafella:

u sure? . Isn't it a little weird to only see white teeth smiling back on a pitchblack night?

What's 'weird' about it? Isn't that your own reflection?

@Babyosisi
Yes it goes on in some I do not deny that. But I stand by my previous statement. The biggest problem is adequate funds. It's funny b/c people encourage me to teach at an HBCU (not qualified yet ) but differnt strokes for different folks.

Thank you for the link. Did you read it? He said "not all white people" (last speech) and near the end when he says:

So before I get involved in anything nowadays, I have to straighten out my own position, which is clear. I am not a racist in any form whatsoever. I don't believe in any form of racism. I don't believe in any form of discrimination or segregation. I believe in Islam.

The paragraph before it is also important. I'd also recommend his Autobiography published posthumously where he talks about being in Mecca w/ Muslims of all races.

Did he say some "hateful" things in his life? Yes. But, this was a man who's father was murdered by the KKK. Who was called "nigger" everyday after his father's death. This was Jim Crow 1950s/60s. He grew from that. The type of growth people aren't doing nowadays b/c it's too much work, too much soul-searching.

I think you have Malcolm pigeon-holed. . .in the wrong hole no less.

@Babyosisi
Actually the biggest problem faced by HBCUs is a lack of funding. Alumni is not always able to fund the Universities properly & since they are private there is a lack of state funds. Additionally, staying accredited has been a problem for a handful (less than half a dozen).

So while "corruption" is a problem (i.e. TSU) & those problems garner more media attention it is not the "biggest" problem.

I'd like to point out that corruption is a huge problem in most American Unis, particularly the large ones. The UT systems, for example, raises tuition even though they have a rainy day account in the multi-millions.

Um, I don't think anyone should speak about Malcolm X unless they know his life's work. He should be judged by his legacy not the media image.

superman:

hah ! chiani im educating u for free

No. You haven't taught me anything yet. You don't even know what's in my head so I don't know why you'd say that.

@Somegirl
No, your English is fine. Myself & others understand you well.


Enugu spoke well. . .

superman:

sista your mindset is so good for black people ! u are less likely to sell your soul to the devil!

guess u dnt wana sound like kwara state governor that offers land to Zimbabeaw farmers! sure nigeria as nation dnt need that mindset!

Ok, hmm, maybe I'm being misunderstood. I meant I understand why you repeat yourself but maybe I don't know how many people you're 'eduating' w/ your repition. Wasn't talking about the pro-black mindset. Ok, hope that clears it up.

@Sista
I understand your mindset but I'm not sure if it's fruitful. It's not for me to say though. _{Good idea not to respond to everyone.}

@Nostrings
I sympathize with you o! I know parents just like your Mum. My advice is to try and communicate well w/ your mother no matter how she frustrates you, but also to get to know this man very well. To know his faults & good points so that if you do decide to marry him, you'll do so w/ your eyes open.

I have a friend who's mother is Yoruba & father is from Rivers. They all live in Naija. The man's family didn't like the mother when they married b/c she was Yoruba but now they can't live w/o this lady. Whenever she comes they are celebrating. So make it a point to discover how his people truly feel about you. Would they be welcoming?

Mamaput spoke well when she said that in Naija there are no govt assistance for marriages gone wrong.

More advice: Persue/continue the relationship but don't give him everything. I mean don't talk yourself into a frenzy thinking this is the only man you can/will love/marry. Why? Because you could sacrifice everything for this man & when the relationship goes sour he won't appreciate it at all. Then where will you be? It's a real concern! Try to be calm. Best wishes!


Random Talk:

@Mamaput Interesting that you say that about Edo folk b/c I've met those who say that about Igbo. Say we're bush people can keep up the "fetish ways". Most Igbo women your age (that I know) don't have their "package" but I guess it's a generation thing like someone said before.

@Sista I see where you were coming from w/ your 2nd post. However I always wonder why you speak more than necessary. You make a point, then you overshadow your point but letting people draw you into quarrels (about white people etc.) I don't know, I don't know.

@Others Lots of white people don't agree w/ "interracial" stuff so why should every "black" person? People are different. . .some of your parents don't agree w/ it but you've come to crucify Sista. Is that funny or sad or what?

BrownEyes you spoke well, Radiant you spoke well, the list goes on. . .

No problem. Thanks for taking it in a positive light. I appreciate it.

Maxell, you posted the link to the other thread already.

If people want to read that tread via the link they will. SO STOP POSTING THAT THREAD IN THIS THREAD.

I don't like when Seun bans people, but that's a rule that needs to be followed. . .

You're no longer talking about the topic. If you have beef with Sista, abeg start your own thread.

How do I [b]un[/b]subscribe to this thread?

MIZIEYA:

So basically you really don't have anything to say: because intitially you don't understand what has been written by me or anyone else.

My advice: keep watching re runs of the twin towers, and keep tabs on the 'progress' on the war on terror, nature (Katrina the Hurricaine is a terrorist) and american civil liberties

You're an idiot. Don't address me again.

MIZIEYA:

Chin some free Advice: never hint or profess to be someone elses mind reader.

Thanks for your permission that I can go ahead and talk about India: I may even venture and talk about other countries as well, like Africa, Argentina, America - hey lets just go through the alphabet,

Cheap shot?: when you open the doors don't complain when replies you do not like come back at you.

That's fine. Go right on ahead. It won't bother me a bit.

MIZIEYA:
Ideology doesn't make full bellies or indeed stop forced prostitution, child labour and other issues both of us have mentioned, perhaps because you feel inadequate you may wish to resolve self esteem issues and do as christians have done: be a Missionary in foreign lands (preferably the poorer countries) and personally enable communities to live better lives - you could become the female messiah of hope that the world has been waiting for - all powerful and dressed to kill in your size fives!

Of course ideology doesn't make for full bellies. Who said it does? Or did you mean this comment for someone else. I only responded to you b/c I thought your ideology was comical/nonsensical not b/c I wanted to prove my ideology is/was best.

MIZIEYA:
So I'm guessing you married for a greencard, or are a product of such a union?

I'm not married nor am I the product of "such a union". Why would you guess that? Anyhow, you guessed wrong. Hope you don't gamble.

@Mizieya
*Eye Roll* My point wasn't that America was "king". In fact it's obvious that you mentioned that as a cheap tactic to draw attn away from your ideas. Furthermore I mentioned "weath & power" b/c those 2 should be dispered & in that way it ensures full bellies & political/personal agency (enfranchisement). In fact, I think that no country escapes certain ills & rather than say "Yippe no tribal warfare" a person should seek to improve the country's situation if he/she esteems it. But go ahead and talk about India. I sure it's what you're good for.

India has a "stable" economy?

Well that's great. May God Bless Them.

I hope their "stable" economy finds a way to feed the people, end forced prostitution, homelessness & all the rest.

As for the lack of "tribal warfare" it doesn't need any. When you have wealth & power in the hands of the few, the multitude are too busy starving & hustling to survive to have any sort of "warfare". Again, good for them.

Congrats! Three cheers for you! Three cheers for NL!

@Sista
In response to your last post, this is my evidence:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-23185.128.html#msg638669

I accused you of being a white man a while back and 925 is saying the same thing. However, you could just be a brainwashed black man. Either way it goes, your thinking is jacked up

You must be white, the name Donzman strikes me as a white name.

Everyone knows that Africa has been infiltrated several times. Only a white man would try to ignore that fact.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-23185.128.html#msg638700

You have to be white and you are definitely a hypocrite.

You are just a racist oppressed white man pretending to be black who hates his undesirable culture. Or a brainwashed black man. You really have no clue as to why you say and believe what you say. Your facts are flawed and I detect ulterior motive.


These are your words. It runs t/o your responses & I do not think they are out of context. I called or rather asked if you thought you were being hypocritical by responding to Donzman's assertion that you are not African by saying that he is not African.

My question stands. And your answer is. . .?

You didn't throw anything that I haven't seen on CNN already. The war in Iraq is Bush's and not Strauss'.

Bush is a Machurian Canidate. But that wasn't my point. My point was about Condi. Take or leave it. I've said all there is to say about that woman.

Condi is defending the motherland against whom? And for whose interest? Who profits from her defense? Is she serving the interest of the majority of American people or the interests of the minority?

Are you familiar w/ Leo Strauss? His book TYRANTS is where the administration draws its unoriginal, draconian ideals from. (Read it if you don't believe me.) Condi is defending the "motherland" based on the ideas of a "foreigner". So if defense of the motherland is an excuse to disenfranchise the American people and further create subsidiary markets of colored people (Iraq) it doesn't hold water in this situation.

(I just threw a lot at you. I don't expect you to "convert" right this sec. but remember it for later. I think you're smart enough for that.)

Y'all are really hijacking this thread. Why not open up another? Call it How the varying lived experiences of Africans and African Americans can affect Viewpoints & Lifestyles, Myopic & Philosophic . . .but while I'm here. . .

Donzman, how can you call Kofi Annan a "tool" and a "dumbass" but not Condi? They are the same! And if not the same, she's 'worse'. Her politics are heinous. I mean come on!

She's new to NL. She's just asking about demographics. It's not so serious. . .

Sista are you being a hypocrite?

At first you were defending yourself & the right to define yourself w/ the term "African".

Now, you're trying to strip Donzman of his "African" status.

That doesn't sit well w/ me -- it's hypocritical. Who are you say what ideas are African or not?

Who gives you such authority?

What makes you the arbiter of Africa, Africaness or Afrocentricity?

Everyone on this board has expressed views or lifestyles that are "unAfrican" and since all that information is still on this board and/or in people's memories let me just say "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

And that goes for the rest of you attacking Donzman's ethnicity/nationality/"Africanness". This is kind warning.

mamaput:

As long as you are yellow you fine abi

I guess if the babe comes out 'brown' or 'light brown' you'll have to return them.

Shokoloko:

@ somegirl.
yes thats from animal farm.

mamaput u get am. unfortunately,the average southern and eastern nigerian yellow is beautiful. i think its also common amongst northerners because if u ask a northerner to describe a beautiful girl, the description will turn out to be that of a fulani or arabian person.
i guess only yorubas don't have that mindset ( correct me if im wrong)

when i was in port - harcourt, two years ago i went shopping with my neighbours 0ne year old baby (the baby is mixed).
something interesting happened, the nigerian attendants who were normally non-chalant to shoppers were suddenly all over the baby and i ( there were other babies in the shop), strangely some other shoppers including some white ones were all over the baby too. it seemed like everyone preferred the mixed child.

Somegirl knows it's from Animal Farm. Her point was that it was double-speak (i.e. cognitive dissidence and/or hypocritical).

So if others think so it must be true?

You sound like a slave to the "trends".

Who knew a baby was the latest accessory. I'm just glad I didn't have to wait for Paris Hilton to tell me. *eye roll*

But you're discussing your sis' pikins abi? Let's hope yours will measure up as well. Drown them in sunblock, I'm sure it'll help. *eye roll*