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Ok I googled the man and he's worth a whooping 18billion dollars and all he could offer was less than one billion? He's greedy.

26yrs of her life spent helping you build your worth to 18billion and you're offering less than a billion.
Smh.

He should just try and make it 3billion. That's way less than half but I'm sure she will accept it so that she won't wreck his business.

crackhaus:
I just don't understand how some men can let such a fleeting and undependable emotion as love blind them so much that they forget/see no need to sign a simple prenuptial agreement.

Ain't no time to be allowing angry, bitter and greedy ex-wives the opportunity to fight you for half your worth and still have the guts to ask for more after being offered a large sum - I mean, $975m?

Is she a witch?
And she's not even a black woman... darn..

Pre-nups are for before weddings. Maybe he was poor before they got married. Or didn't have a significant wealth that calls for prenup.

How do you even know the money is half their worth? It could be way less than half. And half is rightfully hers

fijiano202:
i dont under stand the second paragraph

corrected

If she knew before the wedding arrangements that he was a school drop out and went ahead to cancel the wedding,then she's mighty silly.

aisha2:
Sadly some girls will take this seriously and end up beggars with vagin-as whose parents will demand house painting as part of her brideprice and she will join her family in sucking her husband dry of resources because it is not " right" for a woman to be rich

and this OP created this thread with all seriousness. I wonder what kind of people are on this forum. Weird posts everywhere
It is like all the archaic and outlandish POVs flourish here.
The kind of people that encourage husbands stopping their wives from working because she will make money and 'her wings will grow'

Phew

2CatWoman:
In my opinion a lot of Nigerian parents in the diaspora don't actually raise their children. The eldest child who could be as young as 8 years is left in charge at home while the younger kids are babysat by Messers 50Cent and SnoopDawg (or other bad TV influences).

Then when the kids start acting up at around 11 or 12 years, only then does dad decide to send them home for their "African training", something which should have taken place from birth.

omicron:
While grinding the fried egusi seeds, dried fish, crayfish and fried pepper, boiled water is added appropriately to form the soup. The soup is only warm as a result, never hot.

'Uli', or boiled yam, is added along as thickening, esp if the consistency appears too watery after adding water

Salt/spices are added to taste.

ok.thanks

aisha2:
Since you believe its not " right" what do you suggest she does? Take all her money and throw into the benin river?
I can't even find the words to type.

Me too

@topic
Girls Una don hear o.
*Make sure you don't ever work harder than your man.
* If you get promoted and that could lead to a bigger earning,tell your boss NO.
* If you come across any opportunity that will make you money and it seems like the money will surpass that of your guy run from such an opportunity.
*in fact don't study at all,because studying could improve your earning potential and you know that's not right.

delishpot:
We are saying tge same thing. She should get more if ahe feels there is plentyyy more from where that cane from. I am just talking based on her reason for asking for more.
Can a mans worker ask for half of the companys earning just because he worked for the man?
Unless she and the guy are shareholders sha.

Where I live, husband and wife are shareholders in EVERYTHING they acquired during their marriage.
It is called community property law. In the case of a divorce,everything is split down the middle 50-50 regardless who is the bringer of the wealth whether husband or wife.
In fact the person who stays home to be the home keeper could get a higher share if the judge determines and his/her lawyer is able to prove that having stayed home all those years limited their earning potential and as such is considered a sacrifice on that person's part to make the marriage work.

This lady here says she worked with the husband for 26yrs. Who knows how much their company grew in those years? And if her contribution in keeping home and work afloat made them last that long, that could be considered as equal contriubtion even in a non-community law system state. If she has a good lawyer she can get her rightful 50percent.

If the company is worth 10billion dollars(assumption) and he's giving her less than one billion,that's not fair. It is cheating.

But then we don't know how much their company is worth so I can't really say whether the wife is right or being greedy.
But just thought you should that husband and wife are shareholders in each other's earnings

Since you don't cook or boil it,how is it made?

omicron:
This is Ose Ani served with pounded yam.

This is one of the tradtional delicacies of the Ahaba people. It is made from fried egusi seeds, fried pepper, crayfish and ground fish, among other ingredients. No form of oil is used in its preparation. There is also no boiling or 'cooking' required. As such it is a fast food of some sort.

This soup is currently going extinct as people of the younger generation now rarely prepare it, perhaps due to lack of knowledge of its existence and/or preparation.

While not looking like the most inviting of meals, it is certainly a very tasty soup. It is also quite nutritious due to its high protein content from ground fish, despite its lack of green vegetables.

It is not forbidden to serve it with cooked or fried or smoked meat/fish, but it is traditionally served as below.

I personally ensured the pounded yam was perfectly made, as I learnt from old Mumsi preparing her most cherished meal

No kidding?

Babe2sure:
Same to you.
You sef be aproko , who you take am resemble?

He kept marrying and dumping the women in his life. He married the first wife(Ezinne), while still married to her, secretly did another wedding with another woman(Lilian). When lilian was eight month pregnant, he left her in port-harcourt, came to lagos and wanted to marry another (Uloma). Unfortunately for him, Lilian got wind of the wedding plans and came all the way from port harcourt and disrupted the wedding while it was going on in church. How embarrasing can that be! All hell was let loose, so the wedding was stopped.

You saved me the long type.

Agree totally

MMotimo:
I don't know which "diaspora" has formed your views but I can assure you that Social Services do not just show up and/or take drastic action for no reason. Hiding behind discipline, a lot of parents practise parent brutality, subjecting kids to punishment that is inhuman once you loosen your mental shackles and think of it properly. People usually get into trouble with Social services when discipline becomes borderline or actual torture or delivery of gross physical discomfort to the child. There are exceptions but most times, that is the case.

A common example is spanking. I don't have any problem with reasonable spanking, not "flogging" o and not "beating." If that is what your child understands, fine but if that doesn't get through to him/her and you want to turn to brutality, then you deserve all that Social Services has to offer. It is no longer spanking when you descend on a child with weapons like your belt, or you are delivering ten strokes of whatever. If Getting through to the child is taking all that physical toll on you, you need another solution. You have resorted to brutality in order to intimidate and you are simply letting loose your own frustrations. When you administer physical torture and suffering, it is no longer about discipline, you are only fooling yourself.

I have spanked my kids in the past but I can count the number of times because I realized the spanking is just a physical lash out at the child, it is not necessarily about correction. I find that when you spend time getting to know your children, living your own life as an example and deliberately influencing their behavior through your words and actions, backed up with good moral reinforcement, the odds are high that they will receive the values you impart.

So, when it comes to raising the African way, all I can say is that your children's behavior are a reflection of their upbringing and their upbringing directly reflects how you have discharged your duties and obligations to them as a parent. Whether in or outside Africa, these rules hold the same. You do not have to be in a African setting to enjoy the privilege of "rebuking or punishing" a child. Parents outside of Africa rebuke and punish too but parent brutality is not tolerated by the authorities - that is the difference.

Moral decadence happens everywhere, in and out of Africa. When you choose to birth a child, you are signifying a willingness to set that child in the right path. If you have no inclination towards raising a well formed child, you are doing said child a disservice. The problem is people want to have children but not be accountable for raising them properly so it's easier to blame it all on moral decadence and the environment as if the same things are not happening in Africa.

With all that I have seen, I am not convinced that the African way is necessarily the best. Any system that turns out children with the correct value system and who can think beyond themselves is the best IMO.

With regards to "a very low percentage of these children yield positive result" I am curious to know the specifics of this assertion maybe because I know many families raising great kids with a solid value system and with their heads screwed on straight even without parent brutality.

Ooops! I can't believe how much I wrote!

Where's your evidence?

Tpiatabernacles ;

Oh Lord

ashly3633:
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this kind fraud ehn

naijababe:
My dear, there are only 3 pleasures in life and I happen be super duper good at enjoying all three.

Good food, fine wine and mind blowing 5ex! Tell me if you can think of any other thing as pleasurable

totally agree babe. Totally.

naijababe:
Yes! There is this brilliant Sushi place at my neck of woods called Yorokobi, oh my I can almost taste the salmon dipped in soy sauce and wasabi....hmmm...yummy

You and my hubby could be related you know.
All these Africans with oyibo taste buds.

If my fish isn't cooked and roasted with enough pepper count me out

I remember one sushi place we went to last time(shiro's abi wetin dem dey call am) and it was like 70bucks per serving.
Smh. Except I won't get hungry again for one year after eating that

Na observer mode I just dey while he guzzled the thing.

naijababe:
A I always tell my hubby, you might as well stay at home and eat boiled meat

Preferably nne.

Do you do sushi too? I could almost bet you do.

naijababe:
My hubby and my closest friends are still in that league, I have been trying to convince them to try a medium rare steak for almost a millennium. Iro o dem no go gree

Will never try a medium rare steak. I don't blame your hubby at all. There's something about the redness of half cooked meat that puts me off.

iyabodeh:
what I do?
Which one is javelin shaped again?

Ehn? How are you? Happy new year dear. Stronger you this year I pray

edwife:
Lol

Life is simple but we human always complicate everything for ourselves....
Imagine for 18 years of marriage,did he just realise that?
Both of them never tell us what went wrong....

My man don suffer
I almost felt sorry for him. Almost.

Imagine wife that unclads herself in public to fight with husband and neighbors. Choi.
Mr man really suffer.

I don't really feel sorry for him because according to wifey's side of the story he wasn't a saint either. Birds of a feather
I guess they've been trying to make it work but gave up 18yrs down the line.

edwife:
Some people are not meant to be married,but because of the society they go into marriage then give birth to kids who will suffer in this world.....
Too many unstable people everywhere....

the kind of people you see in Fuji house of commotion show

They are obviously not compatible. Good riddance

aisha2:
Ehnn correct jare na you sabi, this is the kind of " advice" bros is looking for how he can chop and clean mouth.
Your wife catches you and you care more about your mistresses feelings oya oh, enjoy this pit you are digging for yourself and just a friendly warning from thw devil " bros if i hear you call my name when kasala burst ehnn, me and you go jam for hell"

My belle

Aisha o

Ok

That's what the bum bum hype is causing

You have seven boys and some girls too?

How many kids do you have?

mutter:
For Gods sake where did you see it written that a woman or girl must cater for her brothers! Not even in the bible. Please let them enter the kitchen and do it themselves. They also need to learn how to do house chores even if they get married one day. In a few years to come hardly anyone will be able to afford an all-round house help.
I have seven boys and my girls are the bull dogs here. The bully their brothers into doing their own share of house work and cooking, even when the boys are slightly older than them.
Years back my son refused to hang out the washing saying his sister should do it because it is "girls work" and my husband supported him. I told my daughter to do so without complaint. After she hung the cloths I gave her money to go and buy sweets and biscuits. My son offered to go, I told him it was "girls work". He cried because his sister bought all the things he did not like.

Seen

TV01:
...holá Coco,

Let's not talk at cross-purposes here. We both agree that prostitution - in any form - is immoral. We also know that most forms have been extant for a very long time. Our contention isn't even about blame, degree or frequency - I'm not commenting to aportion blame to men or women - it's more about cause and effect of this particualr strain.

My point is the dynamic and the consequent affect on male/female relationships and families. I've made it repeatedly clear that my charge here is to champion Strong healthy families and a flourishing society.

And as a side note, that is why I find feminism anathema - it is harmful to that cause. I wouldn't even quibble with their desire to upend the more traditional approach to marriage, sex and relationships, it's just that they have not presented a better model, and we seen the havoc it's wreaking on homes and society, as it corrupts our current one.

Double anathema as it pervades pretty much every strata of society and even the church - hence the pletora of confused Feminians (adherents of Femninianity and worshippers of a SJW-type Christ )


It's not about need. I'm aware and agree that women desire and need it just as much. But two points here;

1. The biological imperative means that men pursue women for sex - ergo there is a premiunm for men to have sex with women, not the other way round

2. Women do not typically sell sex to satisfy their desires - transactional sex for women is a love of money, not horniness !


As noted above, I recognise alright. And you have recognised that "it's what they can't get" that they are "leasing", not even buying, hence making them losers.

As part of that same biological imperative, women are more selective than men. They have to be, they are more vulnerable and subject to greater risk. As such women will always find willing men - hence it's men that should be paying a premium, not women.


Big foul here...again, biology and society rarely shames or condemn men who have numerous partners. As "unequal" as it may be, slut-shaming is something only women really suffer from. Further, men always prefer women with fewer or no former lovers. And whilst women may prefer it, it is rarely a factor when choosing a mate. So again, feminism' pushing for an equalisation in sexual behaviour/norms ultimately harms women, relationships and the family.


I don't necessarily disagree with this, but to expand my pov - objectifying sex itself hurts women more than men, whoever is buying, regardless of who is selling


As above


And this is where my concerns lie. Even a birds-eye view will suggest objectifying women and commoditising sex will harm the relationships between the sexes and have a long-term deleterious impact on family formation.

We are already seeing this as men turn away from marriage. Legally it's a very low value proposition for men and the sex they are wired to pursue can be had for no premium. Especially if you are what we'd describe as an elite male.

Look it up, you are in the US, the dearth of "elite" black men means that many of them have several quality women. Who are ready to woo him with love, care and gifts, for just a piece of his time. What incentive does he have to get married?

A lot of the not so great women are traped as baby-mamas to different men they'd rather not have around or who don't want to commit to them. Harmful. The marriage culture is gradually eroded, which uleashes a whole host of social ills. Zero tolerance !

This whole premise fails, becaue although women as agreed, want and need sex, they want it gift wrapped in an elite male and tied with the ribbon of comittment - not as a transactional affair - that's where the likes of me come in !.


I think I've answered this.
Additionally, the market is not simply needs and desires driven - although that is a part of it. Biological imperatives are overlaid with societal expectations (which acknowledge the BI), and they to a large part inform individual desires.


Women can always attact a partner - just not neccesarily the one they desire or think they deserve - and it's not helped by cheapening or commoditising sex.


You contradict yourself with the first point, if women are driven - even in part - by desire, men do not have to have money. Real players know this. Desire in women is not triggered by money alone - it's why the rugged looking jailbird had women creaming all over the internet !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818317/Jeremy-Meeks-competition-Handsome-man-arrested-Halloween-attack-draws-instant-parallels-famous-mugshot-modeling-contract.html
Women mis-selling their desires and needs only blindsides men without understanding - for the rest, it's a source of mirth !


Source of mirth !


While women will exchange sex for money - for a whole host of reasons - they do not typically transact to slake their desires. They will give sex feely to the men who know what's up. But feel free to believe that women are habitual chop and cleaners. Women slut-shame other women way more than men!


Teefee

bukatyne:
Any feedback/way forward?

he moved on

TV01:
Possibly in the distant past. These days it's more about female privilege and it's flip side - forcing restraints on men
No. They could always do that. The interesting point is that they are paying for something that the sexual market place in it's natural form would suggest they should be paid for.

number one:

why should it be so? Except you're hanging onto the archaic and erroneous belief that men need sex more and women are only providing a service by having sex with men.
If you recognize the truth which is that both gender desire sexuall relations in as much the same way as the other, you will understand why some women who like their male counterparts will pay for sex when they can't easily get it.

Men don't typically consider call-girls lovers. they pay for sex because they can't get it, or they can't get it at the higher level of the courtesan they patronise. And in some instance, it may be convenience or deviancy.

You think these women would pay for it if they could get it easily? Who likes to waste money and time? No one:

Men paying for sex - although morally wrong - is how the sexual market place should work when the right value is placed on men and women. One of feminisms pushes is for unrestrained and unashamed sexual license for women. This has changed the market dynamic cheapening sex with women.

Refer to number one first. Then read.

If women selling their bodies for money didn't cheapen sex with women, this won't either. Typically the person who gets paid is the cheapened person in each scenario

It also means women are objectified now more than ever - by both men and women. Think of 10 random high profile women - now think about what they are selling.
It's not so much about the moral aspect - as important as that may be - it's about the dynamics, and how that will change interactions between men and women, their ability to form long-term relationships (read marriage), and most of all the procreative outcomes.

False. Female prostitution objectifies women more.it essentially says women are commodities that can be bought by the man who has money. This is just the tables turning and I'm surprised you found a way to make it about the women.
The guys are being bought for their services in these instances. They are the ones being objectified. It is the same thing as buying a vibr@tor or dildoo because the buyer doesn't want to engage in personal mess.
Rent a stud. An object. Simple.

It's not about male prostitution, it's about women paying for sex. It's not about blame, it's about the attendant impact on male-female relationships, and outcomes for the family and children.

It will not affect relationships or marriages.
People who want emotional connections will always find each other and settle down together.
This is for people who do not want that and fortunately they are not the whole population

Apart from gay rent boys and a minor element of sugar-mummyism, there should be no market for men selling sex if women maintained market equilibrium. Feminism and it's notions of sameness definitely did much of the heavy lifting here.

by maintaining market equilibrium you mean pretending she doesn't have sexual needs and hanging onto hopes and dreams that one day a man will find her desirable and want to fvck(pardon me) her?let those who can buy it buy it and spare us the stories that touch.
(Not in support of either form of prostitution)

As above regards the moral aspect. My whole point being that the normal dynamics between male and female suggest women as buyers is a skewed market

refer to number one.

Feminism has enabled the environment for this particualr form of prostitution to flourish. Think of the dempgraphic of woman we are talking about here.

What demographic of women are we talking about? They cut across all shapes and sizes. Not every woman is desirable. If she can't easily attract a sex partner what option but to rent one?
Many men today would not be having sex if they didn't have money simple because there is nothing desirable about them. this is just the same thing. Pls don't rain on the shine of these boys providing the services those women need badly.

Please do...none of those situations would demand payment by women in a properly priced market. Think about it, what women of real quality would feel she cannot command the attention of the lover or spouse she desired without payment.

Depends on what you define quality as. Not every woman measures her quality by being able to attract or command the attention of the opposite sex. Some don't even want that attention because it comes with strings attached which is probably what they are running away from.

I try not to personalise things - unless I'm dissing - but let me muse. If I were paying for sex, would I stump up for what I could get without paying? Certainly not. It's been spun as empowerment, but these women are essentialluy losers. Just reasonably well-paid. They are paying for what they can't get in a free market, but they can afford in a skewed one !


TV

agreed. No one will pay for what they can get freely.

But what you call a free market was actually the skewed one. Where a lady makes you pay for something she equally enjoyed and acts like she did you a favor too. What is more skewed than that?

Now this is the free market