₦airaland Forum

Bethor:
What a waste...!!!
There is a link between politics and religion..!!
Keep the people impoverish and ignorant by all means..!!

There is NIgeria home movie that to some extent exposes how these church business is done and the church fought dirty to keep the film off the shelve..!! The film name is "End Time"part 1-3, all should try and see the film....it's an old film though..!!

Peace...!!

A church battling with accommodation problem for member during service has simply decided to expand accordingly and there is no hidden or selfish endtime agenda in it.
Dangote can announce a commissioning of new factory and no one will feel threatened by the profit he stands to make but will applaud him for being an employer of labor.

NPComplete:
Lol. The Cecelia Ibru ran down Oceanic Bank while gallivanting with church leaders and donating to the church. That is one of the many stories we know of. Much is I Switzerland doesn't mean some of it isn't going to your religious leaders.
Keep crying. We will keep exposing u and calling out your bullshit miracle buildings.

So the church should report donations to EFCC?

GavelSlam:
But not as rich as MIT, UCLA, Yale, etc. I could go on and on but I guess you get the point.

People are free to worship and indeed, it is their right. However, the preponderance of worship houses, on a continent severely lacking in the use of logic, the application of industry and job creation is a disservice to such a people.

Africa needs industries not places of worship. We need hospitals and notnmiracle centres.

Stop that.

In china a small dude of 25 years can easily access a low interest loan of about 3-4% PA interest and get all other factors of productions at unbeatable rates unlike in Nigeria where a 35 year old can hardly get loans for 20% PA talkless of other key factor pf productions like power, Logistics, and land.
Now tell me how does a church affects that?


Did church force force people to close down factories and industries for any reason? The church is a spiritual place meant for spiritual edification of the soul, spirit and body man. By opening schools and health centers they have done more than enough for the society. These people dont owe the society these thing but they are doing them and deserve commendation instead of condemnation.

Great news! Meanwhile some people in Nigeria are blaming Christianity for lack of industries and even rooting for a return to the gods-of-the-land that couldn't prevail against Jesus-backed white-men in their own backyard.

How did the white man conquer us with our backward ways? Simple. The Jesus factor.
Until there is Jesus there will be crisis.

If a white-man was to come back for more slaves today we will probably sink the ship with overloading immediately it lands. We haven't fully imbibed the Jesus influence before going back to our gods secretly and that is reflecting in all facets of the society today.

hisexcellency34:
The larger the auditorium, the larger the sins. Your heart is what matters

partially correct.

EVILFOREST:
That’s only what NIGERIA is good at.
The only INDUSTRY that works efficiently.

If you try to locate places in Nigeria, on google map, you will discover that there are NO INDUSTRIES.....rather you will find worship centers especially CHURCHES scattered everywhere.

What stops this Pastor from erecting an industrial edifice for himself and employ his capable members...??
He knows he may not be able to run such.
He knows, this church is already TAX FREE...

They are scared of businesses and taxes, yet they drill frustrated members to pay TITHES regularly.
NIGERIA is very Far from being Great
CRIME can only get worse.
Who knows the next level...??

Will the industry employ nonbelievers?
God can also call other people to industrial ministry and church or pastor doesn't have to erect a full working society for the sake of jobless folks.

HigherEd:
ASUU again

32. Kebbi State University of Science and Technology, Aliero, established in 2006 has only 2 Professors and 5 PhDs
RABUK (Rice And Beans University, Kebbi ) . . . Lol

Islamic OP

They even have a supreme council under a supreme 'god'. Illiteracy is the core of these guys.

No surprises there.

Originakalokalo:
How does he cause doubt and unbelieve ?

1. Blasphemy.

Through blasphemy on this platform, many children of God, who are still babies in Jesus,

have slipped away.

This is it...

when you read a statement like " Is Yahweh's penis big?"

"Holy spirit fornicated with Mary"

"Jesus is a bastard son of a stupid carpenter"

...and so on..


This is how these statements work on a baby Christian..

He wonders if people can actually talk like this.

Those words are strange to him... Then, he wonders why people who make this statements

don't just drop dead as they typed those derogatory words.

Then he sees these comments over and over again, and he continues to wonder why after all this while, these people are still alive...


..and subtly, slowly, unnoticed, the devil comes in...bringing thoughts and reasons and explanations....

and his faith, begins to wane.

I have been here before... I speak from experience..

it doesn't matter how Long you have been going to church ..(I was born into Christianity )

what matters is how much of the word you carry...

AND YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH GOD...


Your personal experience is more than what you can read in the Bible...

Why?
.Because these guys attack the Bible on daily basis....

BUT THEY CANNOT ATTACK YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH GOD....

Which further strengthens your faith in the Bible..

The thing I see here is that God being a merciful God don't favour outright death for straying souls and therefore ministers death gradually as a form of warning and guide to man. It is man who is too deaf or blind to see it.

A sample can be seen in Genesis 20 : 1-18. Abimelech was killed gradually here and even he didn't know it, but when he made amends and Abraham prayer over it he was restored and all the women in his life bore children again.

Most blasphemers are like that they die slowly and silently without realizing it and so mistake it to mean God is totally silent. God isn't silent really but it is the devil moving them in a wrong direction to speedy death or a shortened lifespan.

They already take deposits in form of credit and give loans in for *606# so it only normal they get a licence to move to the next level of banking.

colestephan86:
Lol, funny you. Frustration must be killing you.

You are now after the messenger and not the message. That's a sign of mental frustration.

HigherEd:
The people who criticise churches for building big cathedrals with their private money would turn dead and dumb seeing how a Nigerian governor is spending their collective resources. A very funny country indeed.

They are never bothered about how their tax, nhis, or pension levies are spent but you will see a man who hasn't been to a church before hating on pastors he barely knows.

There is a spiritual force behind such. Very soon kano will buy salah ram while VVF kills off their young girls and they will hail their governor as a real Muslim for ignoring taxpayers to buy rams for some of the taxpayers.

mimimile93:
Send me a pm

I don't like PMs and therefore avoid them as much as possible. I will appreciate if you can reply here.

HigherEd:
The people who criticise churches for building big cathedrals with their private money would turn dead and dumb seeing how a Nigerian governor is spending their collective resources. A very funny country indeed.

They are never bothered about how their tax, nhis, or pension levies are spent but you will see a man who hasn't been to a church before hating on pastors he barely knows.

There is a spiritual force behind such. Very soon kano will buy salah ram while VVF kills off their young girls and they will hail their governor as a real Muslim for ignoring taxpayers to buy rams for some of the taxpayers.

Ishilove:
How, pray tell?

The army are known to block access to the real massacre picture as they are always drafted in immediately after attacks. This has blocked access to the real pictures of the massacres and aggrieved relatives or ethic group have to resort to foreign and unrelated pictures to try and spark a reaction or reprisal. The BBC report didn't take this very obvious fact into consideration.
In fact, in chapter one of the report they admitted that the massacre did take place and that the actual figure was many times what was circulated as fake pictures.
A balanced report would have considered information suppression by army and ruling govt to make it a balanced one. Not everybody sits on a laptop and edit gory picture to spark outrage without a cause.

This is from chapter one:

A massacre did happen in Gashish that weekend. Somewhere between 86 and 238 Berom people were killed between 22 and 24 June, according to estimates made by the police and by local community leaders.
But some of the most incendiary images circulating at the time had nothing to do with the violence in Gashish.

.if the real figure of berom casualty was known the reprisal would have been worse. The fake pictures in this case even help keep reprisal figure down because the security men blocked the real attack photos from circulating.

Ishilove:
Jesus Christ...

I can guaranty you this article isn't balanced.

A massacre did happen in Gashish that weekend. Somewhere between 86 and 238 Berom people were killed between 22 and 24 June, according to estimates made by the police and by local community leaders.
But some of the most incendiary images circulating at the time had nothing to do with the violence in Gashish.

The above part made me happy because the berom reprisal was vindicated here.

We all know core northerners (Muslim / Fulanis) control the defence apparatus in Nigeria and they are ready to use it to silence others and shield their own.
This makes it almost impossible to access authentic images of the massacre as survivors are always running for their lives or security operatives are always drafted in after these attack. In this case any right thinking berom will be ready to fill in the gap of missing images with other images from African nations in order to spark a justified reprisal.

If BBC wants to do a balanced report here they should also cover the dirty politics of security operatives taking sides with the aggressors.

Anything short of the last paragraph is propaganda from Abuja forces.

mimimile93:
Bring it on. Ask!

If a Muslim kills a potential convert as an infidel during jihad because he/she hasn't accepted Islam yet:

1) would that be fair to another Muslim who initially rejected Islam but later got converted?

2) how is the Muslim doing the killing sure his victim wouldn't convert to Islam later?

3) in the above (No. 2), wouldn't the killer Muslim be guilty of witchcraft / sorcery if he claims to know the future of his victim in the present?

I am asking these because I have been confused about Islamic approach to conversion of nonbelievers.

What about herdsmen?

mimimile93:
The best govt since 1999.

God bless PMB/Osinbanjo

Are you a Muslim? If you are then I have few questions for you.

double.

That averages 400+ policemen per LGA but we hardly see the effect.

Ossunbade and blame.

SarkinYarki:
I hope you know your boss Buhari is 100 percent against state police

The people his boss represent already have a state police in form of hisbah and a bendable constitution in form of the quran. What's left for them now is to strengthen their population base, dominate the defence and money spinning sectors, then dictate as they please.

And who is esu according to OP?

is the lady and adeboye agemate?
Devilish people always challenging anything that edifies Christians.