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1StopRudeness:
DappaD.... be sincere to urself ..... have u truly answered my questions? U just dogded the question like a plague....

I will pick it from the tiny thing your managed to say....
You claimed that when the church become fully matured they will be no need for the Holy Spirit and the gift of the spirit?? Where did U pick the crap from??
so the church became fully matured from when?
When Paul died?? When Timoty died? From when till our day... cos u dogded it when I asked u..


Now u have jumped to where Jesus said he will reject workers of iniquity.... stop saying what Jesus ddnt say.... he ddnt say he will reject all that did sign in his name....if it’s all that did signs, that means that mean Peter, Paul, and every one will be rejected....
he was clear, he said the workers of iniquity....

I never said holy spirit isn't needed any more. God gives holy spirit to true Christians so that they can cultivate the fruitage of holy spirit. See Galatians 5:22-23. This fruitage is made manifest among only true Christians —Jehovah's Witnesses.


Try and get the drift here. Both Paul and Jesus were referring to future times.
Now think, if Paul said the miraculous gifts of holy spirit would be done away with after the first century (1Corinthians 13:8 ) and Jesus said that many would perform powerful signs and wonders in his name and that he'll reject them(Matthew 7:21-23), doesn't that tell you something about those claiming to heal and prophesy today?

Xlyad:
What heresies?!So you know,if you haven't known already and striving with your maker,the spirit refers to God's spirit,the blood refers to Jesus while the water refers to the father.these are common bible symbolism that anybody with the Holy spirit inspired discernment should know.But no,to you the Holy spirit is just a force. He is rather a being just like the other two members of the Godhead who guides true believers to understand the scriptures and the mysteries of the kingdom

Leave all these arguments.
What does 1John 5:6 say about Jesus?
Even your trinitarian brothers couldn't edit that part out.

1StopRudeness:
Be sincere ....u mean u read 1cor 13v8 by urself and that’s what the verse is said to you... u ddnt heat this from your Jehovah witness doctrine, pastor, watchtower, awake or whatever ..... if so

Now, without any ambiguity please ... 1)explain to me how 1cor13v8 said that in “our day” the gift of healing or any other gift will no longer be in operation....

2) when u say “our day”.... who is “our”... ??

3) what period to what period is our day.. as in.. .when exactly did this “our day”start...that the holy spiritual of God stopped his operation on the earth....please don’t be ambiguous..... bring your answer out from 1cor 13v8...like u claimed

Lol. Okay so what time period are those gifts meant to not be effective?
Apostle Paul was talking about when the Christian congregation would be fully mature so that they'll be no need for those gifts anymore. And it has continued onto our day.

Do you know that Jesus himself said that people will perform many powerful signs and wonders in his name and that he will reject them all? Are you aware of this? This is very serious .
I can show you the scripture where Jesus said this, if you think I'm joking or lying.

1StopRudeness:
The Bible actually told u that the gift of healing won’t be effective in ur day....?? Please say it, immediately I would assume I was healed by another god....cos it wasn’t human medical science that healed me...

Whatever you were healed by, it wasn't by the power of the true God Jehovah.

The gift of holy spirit was to show that the early Christian congregation had God's backing but it was to last a short time until the congregation had grown into maturity.
After that, apostle Paul wrote under inspiration :
1Corinthians 13:8.
“Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with. ”
Here clearly shows that the miraculous gifts of my spirit were short-lived and it was done away with in the first century.

Xlyad:
what does the spirit,the water and the blood mean to you?

spirit: When God's spirit descended like a dove upon Jesus, it confirmed or bore witness to Jesus being the Son of God

water: The water in which Jesus was baptized in also bore witness when Jesus was approved by his heavenly Father, Jehovah.

blood: Jesus' blood or life also bore witness to him being God's Son when he gave himself up as a ransom sacrifice when his blood was poured out.

1StopRudeness:
I don’t believe in pastors... I believe in God and Jesus the son he sent.....one of the major things the gospel carries with it is healing, to destroy the works of darkness and oppression in the lives of men... I have experience it....if you have never been at a point where u had to trust God only then I don’t know what type of fellowship u are practicing ....it’s ur cup of tea if you don’t have faith enough and have resigned that healing has ended with the apostles...I don’t argue healing with people...especially people that have their own differnt bible

When you answer me, then I'll quote a Scripture so you can check in your Bible if it's there.

1StopRudeness:
I don’t believe in pastors... I believe in God and Jesus the son he sent.....one of the major things the gospel carries with it is healing, to destroy the works of darkness and oppression in the lives of men... I have experience it....if you have never been at a point where u had to trust God only then I don’t know what type of fellowship u are practicing ....it’s ur cup of tea if you don’t have faith enough and have resigned that healing has ended with the apostles...I don’t argue healing with people...especially people that have their own differnt bible

You've not answered my question.
If the Bible puts it to you now that those gifts of holy spirit wouldn't be effective in our day, would you do a rethink on what you believe in or you'd choose to remain with your former understanding?

Emusan:
Next time instead of repeating my moniker and my post after quoting my entire post, simply enclosed each of my post with [.quote] ..... [/.quote]

NOTE: Don't put that dot(.) in the first & last quote



OK



The verse you quoted doesn't correlate with your statement.




The key phrase is what I underlined...

Abraham was CALLED not that Abraham claimed to be friend of God.

What Christians are to be CALLED is Child of God John 1:12

By the way, those your anointed persons who are children of God means they are not obeying and listening to Jehovah, that's why they are only children of God and not friends of Jehovah.




The @underlined is enough to show everyone that you really lack scriptural understanding.

This is what your own organization says "The unleavened bread and red wine served at the Memorial are emblems, or symbols, [color=red]of Christ’s flesh and blood.[/colkr] They are not miraculously changed into or mixed with his literal flesh and blood, as some feel."

So if Christ had said ""53... “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Definitely, you have no life in you and Christ won't resurrect you on the last day.



Enough of your ignorance by claiming you don't want to argue when you're started doing that.

I said I wasn't going to continue in arguments and I meant it. This is my last reply to you on this matter.

Abraham didn't claim to be God's friend. Jehovah God himself called Abraham his friend — Isaiah 41:8


As for who partakes in the Lord's Evening meal, again, the Bible, it's message and context is to be understood.
Jehovah for his part, had a covenant with ancient Israel (Exodus 19:5,6) and he made them into a nation of priests as at then.
Jesus in the same way made a covenant with his disciples and other anointed Christians for them to rule as kings and priests in God's Kingdom over the whole earth. (Luke 22:29, 1Peter 2:9, Revelation 1:6, 5:9,10, 20:6) .
These anointed Christians have the seal of God on their foreheads and they make up a spiritual Israel which number a total of 144,000(Revelation 7:4-8 ) . They are the only ones who will go to heaven to rule as kings and priests over the earth (Revelation 20:6). Jesus himself called the ones to rule in God's Kingdom ‘little flock’ so it is only rightly so that they number an actual 144,000(Luke 12:32, 22:28-30, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 1:6, 5:9,10, 7:4-8, 14:1-3)

1StopRudeness:
U are wasting your time with a jw..... they don’t even believe christains of today can have the Holy Spirit..they don’t even believe In healing and miracles. there’s no how you explain that trinity that it won’t sound like rocket science and advance engineering maths mixed with the theoretical physics

What if the Bible said that the gifts of healing wouldn't be effective in our day, would you then believe the Bible or what your money-loving pastors say?

Xlyad:
Also follow that up with 1John 5vs7(For there are three that bear record in heaven,the Father,the Word,and the Holy Ghost:and these three are one.)

Spurious addition to the original Scriptures done by your overzealous trinitarian brothers who produced the KJV translation.

The actual words at 1John 5:7-8 are:
“For there are three witness bearers: the spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement”

Emusan:
If truly Jehovah is your Heavenly Father, why are you not His child rather than calling yourself friend of Jehovah?



Jesus said in John 6:53-55 "53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. NIV

NOTICE the @underlined, now that you don't eat Jesus flesh and drink Jesus blood it means you don't have eternal life and Jesus won't raise you up in the last day.

How can you justify this?




You've already started the argument.

Instead of ignoring people, it's better you pull down the thread first.

Emusan : If truly Jehovah is your Heavenly Father, why are you not His child rather than calling yourself friend of Jehovah?

DappaD : Can't someone be a friend to his father?
Jehovah is our Father because he created us (Isaiah 64:8 ) .
We are also friends of Father Jehovah because we genuinely love him and obey his commandments. (1John 5:3)
Take Abraham for example, he was called a friend of his Father Jehovah because he listened and obeyed Jehovah — Genesis 15:6, 22:18, Isaiah 41:8, James 2:23.


Emusan :
Jesus said in John 6:53-55 "53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. NIV

NOTICE the @underlined, now that you don't eat Jesus flesh and drink Jesus blood it means you don't have eternal life and Jesus won't raise you up in the last day.

How can you justify this?

DappaD : Context must be taken into consideration.
At John 6:53-55, Jesus wasn't talking about them eating his flesh and drinking his blood literally. He wasn't even talking about the Lord's evening meal. He was simply explaining that for anyone to have everlasting life, that person must exercise faith in the sacrifice that he made when he offered up his perfect human body(which represents the flesh) and poured out his lifeblood(which represents the blood).



Emusan : You've already started the argument.

Instead of ignoring people, it's better you pull down the thread first.

DappaD : Enough with this spiteful attitude of yours and just ask your questions.

hakeem4:
Yeah

1) why don’t you guys accept blood transfusions
2) why do you guys keep walking into peoples’ home and try and proselytise them to listen to the gospel.
3) why would you guys deny evolution and accept creationism, even though there’s no evidence to support your creationism

Okay. Thank you for your questions.

1. The Bible which we view as inspired words of God prohibits true Christians from consuming blood in any form. (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:11,12, Deuteronomy 12:23, Acts 15:28,29)
Jehovah is the source of life(Psalm 36:9) so we wouldn't want to do anything that goes against God's word. (Matthew 16:25)

2. Because we were given specific instructions by Jesus to preach and teach the good news of God's Kingdom and make disciples of all nations (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20). Jehovah's will is for everyone to be saved and have an accurate knowledge of the truth (1Timothy 2:4, 2Peter 3:9). We have genuine love for people that's why we're always out there preaching this life-saving good news as the only way to gain everlasting life(John 3:16, 36, 17:3, Romans 6:23)


3. a. Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in evolution. We believe that Jehovah God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1, Psalm 33:6, 102:25, Revelation 4:11)
Jehovah created the earth for a purpose — for humans to enjoy everlasting and satisfying life on it (Psalm 37:11,29, 115:16, Isaiah 45:18). And so the earth didn't just come about by mistake or evolution, it was created with a purpose.

b. Jehovah's Witnesses believe the heavens and the earth were created by Jehovah God but they are not like most creationists. Get your facts right. Most creationists are people who believe the earth and everything in it was created in 6 literal days. However the Bible doesn't support that conclusion. The “day” in Genesis 1 refer to unspecified periods of time between one event and another.
For more explanation on this, read this brief article: Was Life Created using this link
https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/was-life-created/

So there are many people out there who have misconceptions about Jehovah's Witnesses. I created this thread to address the questions of those with the wrong understanding.
Jehovah's Witnesses strive to please and honour their heavenly Father Jehovah and to imitate Jesus' way of life. On that note, there are a lot of things that the Bible condemns which people today practice and so they ignore Bible's advice and as such they hate Jehovah's Witnesses for adhering to Bible standards strictly. (John 15:19,20; 2Timothy 3:16)

Are there any questions you'd like to ask concerning the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Feel free to ask and get Bible based answers.

For more info about Jehovah's Witnesses, visit our official website @ https://www.jw.org/en/

***** DISCLAIMER: I didn't come here for arguments. I'll ignore anyone trying to put up an argument. *****

tobechi20:
Those of you that read numbers and leviticus.how do you do it?

The books of Numbers and Leviticus were written by Moses who was inspired by God's holy spirit to do so. They contain laws and instructions for the ancient Israelites. Though those laws aren't in effect today, since when Christ came 2,000 years ago, he did away with those handwritten decrees and that meant that we're no longer under the Mosaic law (Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:13,14) BUT there are still practical lessons that one can learn from those books.

tobechi20:
Those of you that read numbers and leviticus.how do you do it?

The Bible is not a boring book. Think of it as a vast library of 66 interesting books
And it's certainly not a storybook that was written for leisure. Don't mind those people up there.

Take it directly from the Bible, rather than the opinion of mere men.


Romans 15:4:
“For all the things[in the Bible] that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.”
So you can see that the Bible contains instructions/guidance/counsel that are very vital for one who wants to worship God to do so effectively.


Now the Bible says at 2Timothy 3:16-17 that:
“All Scripture[Genesis to Revelation] is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work”
Don't let them fool you into thinking that you can accept some parts of the Bible and reject some. Avoid those kind of people for your own good.

Ken4Christ:
I am sorry I can't help you if you don't want to follow the steps. It begins with Jesus. Receive him into your heart as your Lord and personal Saviour first. If you are not ready, be ready for Hell fire. Those who are already there are looking for a second chance. Take advantage of this and do it before you kick the bucket otherwise it be regrets upon regrets and you will remember this post.

Look at this one
I've not even started debunking all your false interpretations and you've already started threatening me with hellfire?
This your useless trinity god is at work again oo
I said provide evidence of the fruit you've been producing from your Holy Ghost and you began bringing up this your useless hellfire doctrine as a last resort?

But are all you churchgoers just blatantly dumb? Just thinking aloud though.

Lukuluku69:
DappaDundee, I repeat give a prophesy about your murdered god where it was written :his name will be Jesus.(from Genesis to Malachi) Very simple.

My insults? Take a moment and read your own posts from the moment you mentioned me till now and read mine too and see who leads on the insults/abuse Table.
So, from Genesis tn Malachi. I will be waiting. Any prophesies that mentioned Jesus by Name: Jesus.

Lululuku69 I refuse to believe that you're unintelligent
Your useless god Muhammad/Allah does not fit into any of the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures.
Stop trying to bring in your forged religion to the table. Stop trying to equate God's inspired word with your false religion riddled with bloodshed. Just stop.
You're ready to drag the Bible to the mudpits when it doesn't suit your forged religion's narrative and say the Bible is ‘manipulated’. But you'll also want to quote from the same ‘manipulated’ Bible to prove your point. Do you see how daft you're being?

Lukuluku69:
Isaiah 60. Can you post it here please. And show me where Jehovah witnesses were mentioned and other claims you made.

No no no you're not getting the drift, Lululuku69.
The book of Isaiah written some 2,800years ago was written by one man — Isaiah. He was inspired by God's holy spirit to give prophecies — concerning Jesus Christ, God's Kingdom and judgments of Judah and Babylon, prophecies of hope etc

Going by your narrative, you said that the Jewish scribes ‘manipulated’ the Hebrew Scriptures right? Now, how are you certain this book of Isaiah wasn't ‘manipulated’ as well?

Lukuluku69:
I told you to leave warped Doctrines and Tortured interpretations behind. JW are known for that. Three times your elders gave a DATE for the END OF THE WORLD. Three times it failed. Can't you see that that came about because of Tortured Interpretations?

In the Bible, was there any MENTION BY NAME of your Murdered god Jesus by Name from Genesis to Revelation?

Dundee that you are, Personage are usually describe, qualities given that is the way most Religious text work. That is why it is a MYSTERY and DARK SAYING. Until the Personage comes and those qualities described are displayed that is when you know DappaDundee!

From Genesis to Malachi, all the prophecies set forth concerning Jesus being born and recognized as the Messiah were all fulfilled in the now called New Testament.

Once again there is no mention of your god Muhammad in regards to the prophecies made by Jehovah's prophets.
And the issue still remains. Can your forged religion stand if you DO NOT quote from the Bible?


I'll pay no attention to your insults. Let's face the issue here else you'll keep exposing your ignorance the more.

Maximus69:
He is just credulous for the religion handed over to him by his daddy and instead of been calm to know what is going on, Luku feel his father's farm is the largest of all!

Can't you see how he fumbled when i quoted the Qur'an where the book asked Muhammad to go and learn about the true God from the Israelites?

The ode wanted to argue, i was planning to download several Qu'ran translations to show him that he's just a novice.

How can you be arguing that God doesn't chose any special race, yet at the same time you want me to agree with you that the same God went all the way to pick an Arabian as the messenger i must follow?

Haba! Why not someone from my own race if truthfully God doesn't have a chosen race?

He is indeed a noob. For him to acknowledge this

Lukuluku69:
My mistake on this one. Yes that verse was directed at the Prophet. So, what about it?

Shows that Lululuku69 is not yet acquainted with his forged religious book.

Lukuluku69:
The funny thing is, you can't handle Isaiah 40 and 60. This two Chapters are just few of many places that Messenger and Servant of God was mentioned.

I guess you are good with the warped Doctrines and tortured interpretations from your elders. Walk and talk to me, I can wean you off them. You can't appreciate the Splendour of the Horizon by peeping from a Keyhole. Leave your narrow prism and come out in the open.
Every Israelite Prophet talked about and warn the STIFF-NECKS, The REPROBATES of his coming.

But there's no mention of your god Muhammad in either Isaiah chapters 42 or 60.
That's why I said leave the Bible (God's Word) for God's people — Jehovah's Witnesses. Because any interpretation you give the scriptures will just be laughable

Isaiah 42 pointed to Jehovah God approving his Son, Jesus Christ which was fulfilled less than 800 years later when the Messiah(Jesus) appeared in the year 29 C.E.
Isaiah 60 foreshadows the darkness that Judah faced when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonians in the year 33C.E.
Also pointed to a future time when Jehovah's Witnesses in the year 1918 faced a similar kind of ‘darkness’ when the preaching work was halted temporarily.

You just went out of your way to quote those chapters of Isaiah simply because it contained ‘Kedah’ . You can now see how erroneous your thoughts and teachings are because you cannot just quote from the Bible without explaining what those scriptures are actually talking about.

Lukuluku69:
Talking about the fire My God promised to roast people, shebi Jesus a.k.a Angel Michael went to the same hellfire enroute Heaven or you haven't read that part yet in the Bible? Oh wait, Jehovah Witness edited that part from your own translation?

Oga, you can't come here and be posting rubbish and expect people not to call you out.

@bolded
If you don't quote that part of the Bible now you'll have exposed yourself as a CHRONIC LIAR.
You think all those false stories you heard as a child are true.

Maximus69:
I know one young Islamic cleric named "Jamiu Adégúnwà", it's whatever he tells them that they believe as truth. This young guy just want to enrich himself from the gullible adherents. He knew the cherry picking so well, even when you ask his followers to correlate what he quoted for them with other chapters of the same Bible book, they'll start arguing blindly as if the chapter was written in isolation!

I see
Later the Lululuku69 will say JW's are brainwashed by elders not to go to war.
The IRONY

Primesky:
Good!. I like your civility. This is more like how we should talk.

I'll only focus on your number 2.

You differentiated between perfect body and incorruptible body. Please tell me how that's possible as at the time God made Adam and Eve?. You're saying invariably, that even without sinning, Adam and Eve would have become sick and die as well?, which is not what God said!. Was there sickness to make them imperfect at that time?, when God finished His creation work, what was His own verdict?, He said every thing was good!. Point out one area of imperfection at that time prior to the fall of man?. Sin was the originator of all imperfections. God said, the day they eat of that tree they'll die, as sin will step in to corrupt the soul and destroy the body.

Secondly, God made man as flesh from the dust,and breathed his spirit in man to become a living soul. If man doesn't have that body, he's incomplete, because God made him a tripartite being (consisting of body soul and spirit)

Angels are just spirits, man has a spirit dwelling in a body. If this flesh we now have has been subjected to death and destruction, what other body does man need to put on to be the creature God originally made him to be?. A new glorified body, higher and incorruptible need to be given to him, but that will happen only when the sin problem which has further corrupted his soul has been dealt with. That's what Jesus demonstrated when He rose again from death. If any man dies physically without dealing with the sin problem through Jesus Christ, he does not qualify to receive this new body, he will remain a lost soul to be cast out forever.

Furthermore, if anybody claims that Jesus didn't rise bodily but spiritually, my question to that person is:

1. Does a spirit die, to warrant a resurrection of the spirit?. In the case of Jesus christ, is such a person saying that the spirit of Jesus was killed on the cross and then he rose again?.

2. What was buried in the tomb was a corruptible body lacerated with injuries, blood and scares. If they say Jesus didn't rise bodily, where went that body, as it wasn't seen when the tomb was opened by the angels. Did the angels steal the flesh away, and let the spirit of Jesus to walk about, and this spirit of Jesus has scares and can be touched by men?.

Can you or anyone with the believe that Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead explain the above?.


See, let me tell you. If anyone says that Jesus didn't rise bodily, that person is subtly saying Jesus didn't have the power to conquer death, as the only way to do that is to actually rise with the body death has destroyed. This believe is what the devil strongly promotes, because it puts the Christians authority over him in doubt, which is not the case.

Any spirit, group or organization that supports the claim that Christ did not come/rise in the flesh is against Christ, because that group or person is saying Jesus didn't do what he said he would.

Jesus said -- Destroy this temple (body) and after three days I will rebuild it.

Emphasis on this temple, can anyone, human beings for that matter, destroy the spirit?, no! So he was talking about the flesh, and he did rebuild it after three days, however, he did a more glorious work on this new body making it incorruptible.

Don't let no one deceive you.

I'm sorry but you lost me @ the bolded words. The idea that there's a spirit living in man is a miscontrued meaning of Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 made it clear that Jehovah God formed man from dust and blew into his nostrils breath of life(impersonal life force). It was only when these two were joined together that a living human being came about. When God created Adam, he didn't put any already existing spirit being inside him. Get your facts right chief.

Bros you don't like reading and researching. Like I said there's nothing I can learn from you like this.
Adam and Eve had perfect bodies. But they were only subject to destruction when they sinned. If God had made Adam and Eve immortal from the start, death wouldn't have had any effect on them whether they obey or disobey God. That's why I said the angels in heaven aren't immortals as well. Satan is a spirit, as well as the demons — they are not immortal. They are subject to destruction. Which will happen after the Thousand Year Rule of Christ (Matthew 25:41,46, Hebrews 9:14, Revelation 20:10)
If Satan (before he turned against God) was made immortal from start, there's nothing God can do about Satan again and that would mean we're all in soup. But as it were Satan has a perfect body, something that Adam and Eve had. And as such, Satan is subject to destruction too.

I think Maximus69 did justice to the remaining part of your comments.

Maximus69:
No the Bible book of Isaiah is not part of scriptures the Scribes have manipulated!

@Isaiah 9:6 said A son is born and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace!

So it's about who Sir?

I don't want to believe that Lululuku69 and the rest of his militant brothers believe that the ‘darkness’ at Isaiah 60:2 is referring to the darkness their ancestor Muhammad was talking about?
Something that has already been understood to be the spiritual darkness the Jews faced after Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BCE and also the darkness the anointed Christians faced when the preaching work was halted in 1918CE!

Please correct me if I'm wrong on the above regarding the ‘darkness’ Muhammad talked about.



But when will these Muslims understand that everything in the Bible is only meant to be understood by God's people — Jehovah's Witnesses?

Lukuluku69:
Isaiah 60. The gathering of the people is for him and he is from the Tents of KEDAR/KEIDAR (AN ARAB)

Stop quoting from the Bible and let's see if your forged religion can stand.

Lukuluku69:
Forget what those Charlatan says (G.Os)
the Bible, does it agree that Jehovah talked to others aside the Israelites? Answer with Scriptures. Of All Books, Quran ALONE says others have Warners. Quran ALONE
Jesus also said he was sent to the Losts of the house of Israel ONLY. Did you miss that part? Or you guy edited that one out too?

Please why will I forget ?
Isn't rottennaija part of those people you tagged ‘Charlatan’ just now?

Lukuluku69:
Forget what those Charlatan says (G.Os) the Bible, does it agree that Jehovah talked to others aside the Israelites? Answer with Scriptures. Of All Books, Quran ALONE says others have Warners. Quran ALONE
Jesus also said he was sent to the Losts of the house of Israel ONLY. Did you miss that part? Or you guy edited that one out too?

The issue you have is when you try to marry the inspired words of Jehovah God with some makeup beliefs that your ancestors forged. That's where the problem is coming from. Take time and reevaluate all you believe in. Stop using the Bible to make it agree with your beliefs and let's see whether you'll have anything to say.

Maximus69:
Abegi all this are fabrications Sir!

You've said God sent messengers to all races so there is no need of last Prophet coming from any special race.

So forget about Israelites, Jews or Arabs, stick to those sent to your own race!

That should mean that Muslims are no better than Churchgoers who cherry pick Scriptures from the Bible that agree with their forged beliefs.
Imagine this one quoting from the Bible and still saying that spiritual light is found only in Islam

Lukuluku69:
Before the advent of the Arabian Prophet, any man who can live true to the teachings of his home Prophet has definetely grasp a good stronghold. So, The Zoroastrians Magi who came calling at Jesus crib (they were looking for that Last Prophet and they only saw a babe they left otherwise they would have cling to him. They were looking for a Man who will upturn their corrupt faith and set them aright) they found it in Islam who upturn the Magian Faith and convert them all. Google the story of Persia.
Before The Arabian Prophet if there be an Hindu, Jew, African or any other Nation of the world who live by the dictates of his home prophet in it's PRISTINE STATE, Then there is a Spiritual Truth therein but once that Messenger and Servant comes (Isaiah 60) bros, you are to leave everything and follow him.

I quote from the Bible the words of God and His Prophets what I lambast are words of Men.

And you are right, JW are close minded people. You believe God spoke only to the Israelites. In the Hindu Scripture, they call people like you NAMUCHI: An Evil Spirit that witholds Rain and by extension any own who holds the view that God only talked or is revealed in their Nation only.
You will find Muslims quoting from ALL BOOKS but you close minded people deters to the Israelites version only.

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The person who said found the light doesn't agree with your forged concept of an ‘Allah’.
What can you make of that?

Lukuluku69:
Before the advent of the Arabian Prophet, any man who can live true to the teachings of his home Prophet has definetely grasp a good stronghold. So, The Zoroastrians Magi who came calling at Jesus crib (they were looking for that Last Prophet and they only saw a babe they left otherwise they would have cling to him. They were looking for a Man who will upturn their corrupt faith and set them aright) they found it in Islam who upturn the Magis Faith and convert them all. Google the story of Persia.
Before The Arabian Prophet if there be an Hindu, Jew, African or any other Nation of the world who live by the dictates of his home prophet in it's PRISTINE STATE, Then there is a Spiritual Truth therein but once that Messenger and Servant comes (Isaiah 60) bros, you are to leave everything and follow him.

I quote from the Bible the words of God and His Prophets what I lambast are words of Men.

And you are right, JW are close minded people. You believe God spoke only to the Israelites. In the Hindu Scripture, they call people like you NAMUCHI: An Evil Spirit that witholds Rain and by extension any own who holds the view that God only talked or is revealed in their Nation only.
You will find Muslims quoting from ALL BOOKS but you close minded people deters to the Israelites version only.

Lukuluku69, MUSLIMS are not the only people who believe that truth is relative.
I've heard clergymen of Christendom say that there are some things their Daddy G.O will tell them that they'll disagree with him on the issue of truth. Yes clergymen as well as other religionists in the factions of different religions believe truth is relative. That's why if you check very well , you LOT are always in confusion .
Jehovah's Witnesses believe in only the BIBLE as the only Inspired Word of God. The rest of you in other religions wouldn't like something like this so there's no need explaining it to you.

When Jesus said at John 14:6
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”
Do you think Jesus was joking here? Or that he was being close-minded and arrogant?
YES you will see it that way and tag this one ‘words of men’ because it doesn't agree with your forged religion.

Lukuluku69:
Yes I believe that God sent Warners to ALL NATIONS and not ONLY TO ISRAELITES. The Quran states that in a number of places.

And the mistakes/blunders were not from the Warners but rather MEN (Pundits, Monks, Priests etc) who add, subtracts from the messages to suit the whims.

And God choose the Arabian Prophet to herald his Message to the World and not to any Lost Children. He chooses whom He Wills.

And I am quoting the Jewish Texts because they were told to look out for him by their Prophets. Once he comes they are to cling to him.

And why can't I stick with my African Warner? The message is lost. Osugbo, Awopa, Okala, Osun and many others each claiming superiority. Islam message is simple. Belief in God, Belief in ALL the Prophets and ALL the Books. Very simple. God is not for only one tribe but for all flesh. Read Isaiah 42 and 60 that Universal Prophet will come from the tribe of KEDAR/KEIDAR (Ishmael's fourth Son). The gathering of the people is unto him alone any other gathering nah fake.

By quoting Isaiah chapters 42 and 60, going by your narrative, you believe that spiritual truth is relative and hence some aspect of truth can be found in any religion. Correct?
You quote from the Bible and then lambast it when it DOESN'T AGREE with your narrative.
That's just what you've been doing here. You may call JW's close-minded when they decide to stick to the Bible — because we believe that's where truth is found and the truth is indeed ABSOLUTE .
You don't see JW's quoting from your forged book trying to prove a point.