₦airaland Forum

Osasnice:
Whether you like or hate the man

But Governor Obaseki has just implemented ₦40,000 minimum wage for Edo State Government civil servants

Yet AAU lecturers have been on strike for months now over salary non payment by the same man. Primary and secondary schools in the state so much lack teachers that host communities, PTA, and old boys and old girls associations levy themselves monthly to recruit teachers for these schools and also bear the burden of their salaries, no projects being undertaken except some tokenist ones like Central Park which its fence collapsed as a result of the very first rain it experienced few days after commissioning, etc. So much for an achiever.

lailo:
Still better than the Oshiomole's treatment

Oshiomhole seems to give you a lot of nightmares, else how does he come into a pure intra PDP issue between Obaseki and his newfound party chairman Dan Orbih with whom he is battling for party structure? Na waya for some of una sha!

billionman:
Orbih have handled the affairs of the PDP in Edo state very well for many years. Obaseki's arrival has put PDP in disarray

Dan Orbih's quest for having his party return to Osadebe House through a seeming short cut landed his party in this mess.

Mikolo70:
Lagos no be Edo... Obaseki eyes don clear.. O ma se o!

Na Edo people eye don clear o, especially the slim majority wey vote for am out of sympathy. Dem don dey see the shege wey dem vote for all in the name of Edo no be Lagos.

GoooodHardDick:
You're not an Edo. Stop lying trying to deceive yourselves. Edos ain't known for hatred like you Yorubas.

How can a Yoruba ask me an Edo son to upload his NIN or passport online? As what? Just to prove to a Yoruba boy that am a Benin niggar?

You're not from Edo state. I know my fellow niggar from Edo state when I encounter one. You're too lousy, [b]full of hatred and bitterness over a particular region (the igbos) [/b]and you call yourself an Edo? Alaye, no go let ogun kill you this night. Don't joke with we Binis again. Continue your tribal wars but leave we the southerners out of it.
Our votes goes to Peter Obi come 2023!!!

If you are truly from Edo and the bolded emanated from you then you are likely of the indomie generation who has no real knowledge or experience of the deep seated and passionate hatred the average Igbo man or woman has towards anything Edo.

donphilopus:
You're not a South Southerner. Stop claiming everyone who opposes Peter Obi is a Yoruba person. I'm a full blooded Edo person and I'll never vote Peter Obi.

If you have a Nigerian passport or NIN, can blur some part and upload to prove that you're indeed from the South South and I'll do same. Make una nor dey make noise online!

Ps an average person in my community doesn't even know who Peter Obi is. I wonder who's supporting him in the South South. He has our support yet he chickened out? Lol

You even get time to dey reply that monicker wey dey claim
say all SS na for Obi yet when Wike from him assumed SS dey throw jabs at Obi him no fit make kpim.

OgunkeelAllMod:
pure whining..trust Edo people..
Hahahaha so long he comes with part of the bullion van loot.dem go do full album for am def...then vote for their conscience o jare when cunny man die,na another cunny man go use cunny bury am ooo . Dem don already show the Oju yobo druggie say edo no be Lagos

Really mysterious how Edo State people all of a sudden became political role models in you Easterners' eyes after having called them unprintable names like Yoruba ass lickers, SS sellouts, Part of the SW, semi-Yorubas, etc continuously since 2015 for the crime of not giving Jonathan up to 99% votes in 2015. So just because a very slim gullible majority gave sympathy votes to Obaseki whom you only came to love overnight because he joined PDP, Edo State suddenly and abruptly stopped being a Yoruba territory, and started becoming part of the SS again, stopped being SS traitor state, stopped being cursed people, stopped being a people of an empire of blood and gore, stopped being the most stupid state in the SS, stopped being included in Oodua Republic maps drawn by IPOB and started being relisted as part of the SS to the extent of even now being added to Biafra in certain narratives by the same Nnamdi Kanu who had always clearly said that Edo was never part of the SS in reality but just added to it to make up the sixth state, and other emotional blackmail Edo suffered in your hands? You think the intelligent section of Edo State people have forgotten all the blackmail you launched and sustained against the state for good seven years out of agony over the self inflicted defeat of Jonathan who recently undermined your love for him by seeking to fly the 2023 flag of the same APC on which your grouse with Edo was founded? Or you think we don't know that you will revert back to the same blackmail should APC win the coming 2024 guber election given the highetened disillusionment and monumental disappointment currently being felt by those who gave sympathy votes to Obaseki thinking his claim of being distracted from working for the people by Oshiomhole's demand for state's resources was true only for them to, within just two years afterwards rudely realize was a fraudulent campaign gimmick to excuse his first term failure amidst Oshiomhole's vindication by Wike's public appology and Obaseki's godfatherism pursuit-engendered quest for the PDP structure which has plunged the Edo PDP into a self destructive internal crisis now threatening the very existence of the party in the state and at the same time demolishing the Houses of PDP members opposed to his misrule, rivalling the Oba of Benin over artifacts which are rightly owned by the palace, abandoned projects from his first term littering the state, AAU lecturers nearly seven month old strike for his refusal to pay their salaries before the national ASUU strike came, pernicious Fulani herdsmen menace in the Orhimwon, and Ovia, refusal to sign the Anti-open Grazing bill he jointly agreed to with his Southern colleagues, etc? How many Edo State natives themselves do you still hear shouting Ogbane, Towargba, Edo no be Lagos, etc in Edo State as of today? Shouldn't that be an indication to you that people are disappointed and regretful for their 2020 choice?
We shall remind you of all these when the time is ripe.

Same way Northerners assumed at the initial stage that Boko Haram was fighting the Federal Government on their behalf only for the group to later turn against them and start killing them while receiving amnesty from the FG is the same way Easterners assumed IPOB was genuinely fighting the FG on their behalf only for it to birth UGM which now beheads innocent Igbos even when the FG is yet to start offering them any amnesty.
In all, I think the Niger Delta armed struggle against the FG had been the only genuine and civilized armed struggle as Militants never degenerated into beheading or even purposely harming innocent civilian indegenes of their SS region to make a point while the struggle lasted.

southsouthking:
Where are you from Mr?

I am surprised you are asking this question. You seem to be the only one on NL who doesn't know that I am from Edo State.

southsouthking:
One dude above even had the guts to say Edo is in the Bag already.
If only i mean if only they know how Tinubu is been hated in Edo state.
You went on national TV all the from Lagos and started dishing out instructions on who we should vote for.

Speak for yourself that you hate Tinubu in Edo State.
With all the internal crisis that have engulfed Edo State chapter of the PDP since Obaseki's reelection coupled with the stagnation in Edo State as regards governance and the regrets of a lot of those who supported him; is Tinubu not now vindicated? Hasn't Wike apologized to Oshiomhole on account of the scales later falling off his eyes? Go to Edo State and feel for yourself the pulse of public opinion on a first hand basis.
And remember that Obaseki's victory in the 2020 election was not even overwhelming hence an indication that only a slim majority gave him sympathy votes. So why speak as if a huge majority of Edo State people are anti-Tinubu?

LordNicvuitton:
Thunder & lightening combined, destroy u, you fccking bastard. Ode ozuoor of d lowest order. Make that Igbo gossiping choke ur retarded life out of existence. Idiot like you. It is how you people go about, propagating hatred against the Igbo tribe, thank God for d age of internet. Useless things that are only united by Igbophobia.

Shebi when the Igbo tribe leave this useless contraption, lemme see the next tribe that y'all will choose to hate. Fuccked up Pussey ass imp.

Devil punish you there!
You have just confirmed that you are a very big fool plagued with moronic idiocy which you Igbos are known for. Your outburst only lends credence to what everyone already knows and which is that you Igbos are always too ashamed to admit your stupidity and shortsighted greed which propelled you into choices that plunged the South into this political quagmire. Very uneducated literates. Let us see how you will get the idiotic Biafools Republic after you killed all motions for secession clause, introduced military rule, stopped Isaac Adaka Boro from seceding and promulgated your silly, self serving, demonic, hellish and stupid Unification and Anti-secession Decrees. So you now want to exit the fraudulent one-Nigeria you created in your quest to grab other people's lands and resources and dominate them? Una never see anything. In your foolish and fraudulent one-Nigeria we all die. You go nowhere. Keep insulting. You go nowhere. Jokers! I am waiting for your usual idiotic reply which will not address the facts raised but respond with more emotional outburst.
Just make sure you or your brothers here don't call upon the mods when you begin to get uppercuts on this insult spree you have started because that is the cowardly means you resort to when you start losing out. Shameless AfghanEASTERNS!

Dailymice:
They have started burning churches in Sokoto. I keep asking myself, why some southerners believe in this one Nigeria of a thing. They are killing your brothers, sisters, people of the same faith and you are shouting we are one.

Southerners are the most unserious entities in this Lord Lugard union. Yoruba Muslims align with Hausa/Fulani Muslims who still mess them up and throw them under the bus and yet they are shouting Yoruba and Fulani are one.

Igbos in the north doing business are also foolish in my opinion, because of money you jeopardize your life to live among animals masquerading as humans.

Nigeria can NEVER be ONE, the earlier you recognise this, the better for you.

Igbos, Yourbas, Efik, Ijaws, Bini's, Idomas etc can all live together in peace and harmony as one Southern Union but you see those people up north, forget it, their brains are filled with war, poverty and diseases.

The issue with southern unity is the disagreement between Yorubas and Igbos with most Yorubas ALWAYS aligning with the north against the detriment of Southern Unity.

Tinubu will be dealt with, mark this comment on May 29th.

What exactly does an Igbo man gain from blatant revisionism? So the Azikiwe who pioneered in 1960 the act of a Southern aligning with the North against his fellow Southerners was a Yoruba man? The Alex Ekweme who aligned with Shagari in 1979 and 1983 against his fellow Southerners was Yoruba too? The Arthur Nzeribe who imported arms for the Nigerian side which Gowon used to massacre over 3 million Igbo civilians during the Biafra war was a Yoruba man?
The Azikiwe who betrayed Ojukwu by abandoning Biafra at the peak of the war and defecting back to the side of one-Nigeria was a Yoruba man?
The Igbo delegates to the 1998 PDP convention who, after collecting IBB's N5m per delegate bribe, ditched Alex Ekweme who was already the leading aspirant, and voted for Obasanjo who was obviously the prefered candidate of the Northern Oligarchy were all Yorubas?
I still can't phantom how you folks manage to find the conscience to sleep soundly at night after openly telling brazen lies in the afternoon.

The most annoying part of this whole thing is that while you lie so dangerously and twist Nigeria's political history against Yorubas, majority of Yorubas themselves keep quiet and gloss over it probably because they want to be nice to you in quest for a rather impossible Southern unity which most times makes them get insulted and labelled as unity beggars by same you Igbos and in the process of glossing over these revisionists tales, they come to really appear in the eyes of the ignorant and unsuspecting section of my SS people as actually treacherous and unreliable as they are falsely labelled by you folks. Honestly I don't know why majority of Yorubas assume that they can get Igbos to love them towards Southern unity by tolerating their lies and revisionisms against them.
I used to assume before too that Yorubas are evil and treacherous going by the Igbotic default propaganda about the role of Awolowo during the war until I stumbled on several books in my school's library in my final year days comprehensively written on Nigeria's political history covering the period right from amalgamation to the IBB era and after reading through I realized painfully that Igbos are the problem with the South and the entire country. My further research at the three arms of the national archives (Enugu, Ibadan and Kaduna) confirmed same, hence It was from that moment my views changed.
I just pity Yorubas in this country. They don't know the danger in this docile attitude most of them put up in the face of emotional blackmail by Igbos. By the time the results begin to hit Yorubas, it will be too late. Let them be condoning lies against them in the name of being a sophisticated tribe of Omoluabis or whatever they call it. We shall see.

cosmos1440:
Must you Igbos always lie ?
The NCNC did not win the minority seats, the NPC had the highest number.
Also, the NCNC did not join the NPC out of pity, but out of greed. Go and read your history books, even Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana was aghast when he heard of Azikiwe's NCNC forming a coalition with Ahmadu Bello's NPC.

They lie in the attempt to soothe their severely bruised ego which resulted from their deadly miscalculation of teeming up with Hausafulanis against their fellow Southerners at independence.

zachanalysis:
sorry bro but you are far from being accurate on this. The first republic election had the NPC as the party with the majority seats in parliament. Closely followed by NCNC ,which from its shape and composition cannot be called an 'Eastern' party and then the Action Group came third. Although, the great Zik was the leader of the party but many members were drawn from non-Igbo speaking parts of Nigeria including the North. At best, we can say the NCNC was a national party.

You are confusing geographical spread with nationalistic outlook. Without prejudice to the fact that NCNC wasn't even actually of the nationwide geographical spread you ascribe to it as it had no prominent Northerner in it, nationalistic outlook of a party really has to do with the party's ideology as it relates to and aligns with the hopes and aspirations of the commonest citizens and that explains why Herbert Macaulay forever retains the title of "father of Nigerian nationalism' even though his party NNDP, through which activities he bagged the title, didn't geographically extended beyond the boundaries of Lagos Colony.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Can you explain how OBJ was the foremost enemy of June 12 and how he mocked Abiola?
OBJ spent four years in Jos prison for mocking Abiola?

It seems you are an expert in putting words into people's mouths. Which line in my response suggests the opinion that Obasanjo was imprisoned for mocking Abiola? Care showing me?
So you need anymore to tell you that Obasanjo publicly declared that Abiola wasn't the messiah, and that all through Obasanjo's 8 years as civilian president he deprecated all calls on him to honour Abiola by naming a national monument after him or changing democracy day from May 29 to June 12? What further facts and evidences do you need that Obasanjo was an enemy of June 12?

Agbegbaorogboye:
You see, that's the problem with Tinubu's urchins. You'll praise Tinubu who was in UK after failing to get a seat at the military govt as a major sponsor of NADECO and June 12 loyalist while you demonize OBJ who actually stayed four years in prison on suspicion of working against the govt of the day to return the country back to democracy.

Should I call you Obasanjo urchin since one automatically becomes an urchin for taking up an opinion?
For the first time I have met an Nnamdi Kanu superior as regards the uncanny ability to rewrite history. If Obasanjo was jailed on the suspicion that he was working for the actualization of June 12, then how does it make sense that IBB the annuler of June 12 would later pick him as sponsor him to power with the support of the Northern Oligarchy on whose advice IBB did the annulment? See how people wobble logically when they lie to themselves and believe those their own lies as the truth?
The story that Tinubu sought a position in the Abacha government doesn't make sense logically. It only exposes the intellectual deficiency of Kola Abiola the originator of it who was himself chasing after the daughter of IBB the annuler of his father's mandate while others were battling to recover it. Kola Abiola said "Tinubu asked Abacha to make him civilian administrator of Lagos State because he had thought that Abacha would appoint civilian administrators like IBB did in his time....." when in actual fact IBB didn't appoint any civilian administrator at any moment in his eight year military rule. So if Kola Abiola who lacked a full grasp of what was as public knowledge as the composition of IBB's administration, why should anyone take him seriously on his claims about issues which were more secrets like allegations of Tinubu privately trying to negotiate with Abacha? Colonial Nyiam, a core and founding member of NADECO has burst Kola Abiola's claim challenging him to say he wasn't chasing amorously after IBB's daughter while the struggle for June 12 actualization lasted. See it below:
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/06/15/june-12-kola-abiola-is-unfair-to-asiwaju-tinubu-col-nyiam/?amp=1

He added that Abiola was the one who single handedly introduced Tinubu to him in London as a trusted solder of his mandate. I guess Kola who was occupied with wet dreams over IBB's daughter knew the character of his father's soldiers more than his father who owned the mandate in question?

Agbegbaorogboye:
Same set of people still voted for Buhari who was a major player in the abacha administration, that jailed both Abiola and OBJ while sending Diya to the gallows.

And Diya you now defend wasn't the deputy to Abacha hence the most major player in the Abacha Junta which later jailed Abiola and he himself? Do you have any use for logic at all? In any case, Buhari only held PTF chairmanship position which had nothing to do with the Gestapo arm of Abacha Junta hounding June 12 advocates unlike Diya who was right in the Supreme Military council in charge of the Gestapo. And in any case, Buhari has, as far as June 12 is concerned, vindicated those who voted for him by his changing of democracy day from Obasanjo's malicious May 29 to the actual June 12 date. So what else do you have to say?

You all voted for him and call him a reformed democrat. You all however denounced the likes of Lateef Jakande for working with that same administration
Who is deceiving who?[/quote]And his honouring of Abiola by making June 12 democracy day while Jakande was still alive waters down your argument here.

Great2017:
Fashola's case was an exceptional case in the ACN. So, you cannot base your submission on that singular case. What about Ambode, who showed him the way out? Who also brought in Sanwo-Olu? Few people have been deciding who gets what since time immemorial in ACN. Have you not also read recently that Tinubu's wife has chosen who would replace her at the Senate?
https://www.nairaland.com/7101355/remi-tinubu-names-wasiu-eshilokun-sanni

So because Fashola's case runs against your narrative, it was exceptional? Is it not something that makes a case exceptional? Do things just get exceptional by accident?
You have not been able to counter the religious angle of Ambode's case. Why?
As per the case of Wasiu Eshilokun Sanni; you don't cite an event yet to occur in trying to substantiate a hypothesis. It is simply illogical.

AntonVince:
If you fool me once, the shame is on you; but fool me twice, then the shame is on me.
Affliction shall not rise a second time.

Shagari who had most of such attributes was voted for far before Buhari. In fact those who now accuse Ahmadu Bello of ethnoreligious bigotry chose him as their political partner right at independence. Obasanjo who was voted for massively by the same folks in 1999 was a product of the establishment which also produced Shagari. Yaradua who was equally sick, frail and terminally ill and armed with solid credentials of religious bigotry evidenced by being one of the governors to sign Sharia into law despite Nigeria's secularity spelt out clearly in the constitution was equally massively voted for by Nigerians.
So the "fooling" or "affliction" has always been our way and I don't see it going away all of a sudden because of Tinubu who even has no records of religious bigotry and whom EFCC set up by his enemies has given a clean bill of health on the corruption allegations being resurrected against him now just for political capital.

Great2017:
You have turned few people deciding who becomes ACN gubernatorial candidate to all party members. Why do you love lying glaringly to yourself?

We are talking of ideal situation which you yourself mentioned. And by the way remember that Tinubu wished that Fashola didn't get a second term but didn't succeed in removing him because both the general members of the party and the voters threatened to vote for him all the same should he defect to PDP to seek his second term. Therefore all these talk of one man deciding who becomes governor in Lagos doesn't hold water. What matters is that you impress voters who have the ultimate say even over the party and no one can remove you. Whoever is removed by the party or whoever in Lagos must have failed the voters in one way or the other. Ambode was easy to remove because his misdeed touched on religion which is a very sensitive issue to most Nigerians. He was in support of his wife who harassed a priest and insisted on having her particular seat in the Lagos State Government House Parish which that priest stood against. Ambode intervened by sacking the priest and that was sacrilegious in the eyes of Lagos voters who reasoned that a man who could harass a religious authority, despite he himself being a Christian, would be a danger if given a second term.
Remember how Ihedia Ohakim of PDP lost reelection to Rochas Okorocha of APGA in Imo State because he physically assaulted a Catholic priest. Right now, Hope Uzodinma's chances of a second term are almost zero because of the manner in which his security forces arrested Nwosu right inside an Anglican Church Parish shooting live bullets which got members of the congregation scampering for safety thus disrupting the solemn service going on. Nigerians don't joke with religion.

lexy2014:
You haven't answered my questions. The questions I asked are very simple & doesnt require this plenty grammar.

What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president? Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

If you claim can't understand how he has shown capacity to fight nepotism and corruption, and how the people's will will always triumph in the analysis, then it is obvious you are only trying to be politically correct hence need no further response.

Agbegbaorogboye:
I'm pointing out to you that it is very disingenuous of you and a betrayal of Abiola's memory whom you Tinubu followers always claim to venerate to say Babangida never betrayed him but cancelled the election for self-survival sake. Apart from how infantile and silly such submission is, it renders the whole NADECO and SW efforts for the reclamation of Abiola's mandate a joke.
You should be ashamed to be found doing that except you're just a hired hand who has no sense of SW's political journey

What renders the whole NADECO and SW's Abiola's mandate actualization effort a joke more than the later decision of your likes to later in 1999 vote for Obasanjo to become the ultimate beneficiary of that struggle despite having been the foremost enemy of June 12 who was mocking Abiola while the struggle for his mandate lasted?

Agbegbaorogboye:
Stop with the lies. Tinubu never pleaded with anyone for Ambode. You guys always turn history on its head to suit your flawed narratives. Go back to 2018. After Ambode did that press conference where he accused Sanwo-Olu of being a junkie in Gbagada, Tinubu released a statement to openly back Sanwo-Olu against Ambode. You can fish on the internet for that if you have lost the memory.

Tinubu is a dictator in Lagos. He never allowed Fashola to have a say on who his successor would be. So it's not with Ambode he started that. And i'll like to hear from you that Ambode was not a popular governor in Lagos.

Secondly, in Lagos, no one gets anything, and I mean anything without the tacit or open support of Tinubu not even the kingships.

So why are you claiming Buhari should have no say on who his successor will be? Ain't that duplicitous

If you think Fashola should have a say in who succeeds him, when ideally, it is a thing to be decided by the entire party members and then the voters, how are you different from the Tinubu you accuse of being a dictator? Fashola's alleged wish to have a say makes him as dictatorial as Tinubu. So why are you having sympathy for one dictator over another?

lexy2014:
What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president? Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

Per the bolded; there is this concept which most Nigerians seem not to understand and this is it:

Contrary to the simplistic view of the average Nigerian corruption and nepotism are in themselves not the problem of Nigeria, rather, they are mere symptoms of a more fundamental problem which is the faulty structure we operate presently that concentrates resources at the center and too much powers on the executive arm of government. Let me start with nepotism: using appointment of say INEC chairman as example, the present constitution gives that power to the president and his personal choice. Pray tell me how there will be no nepotism on the part of the president in choosing INEC chairman and how such chairman can actually conduct a free and fair election without being influenced by the president to whom he owes allegiance of gratitude? This is where the white man is better than us because in their own case most powers are vested in institutions and not in persons.
Where institutions make appointments, nepotism easily gives way to meritocracy. So rather than fight nepotism which is not even practiceable, you strengthen institutions and change the laws to transfer powers of appointments to such institutions.

On corruption, the only workable solution is a return to resource control because in true federalism marked with resource control, the FG gets about 30% remittance from the states as we had it in the first republic. With that 30%, after paying the salaries of the armed Forces and staff of other federal agencies, there will be virtually nothing left to pay jumbo allowances to National Assembly members or for the ministers to loot. This will make politics no longer attractive to political investors hence political office will only be sought by those who genuinely want to serve. These we all know will be accomplished veterans of different disciplines who will bring their professional experiences to beat on legislative business. Moreover, there will no longer be federal allocation hence every state's inddegenes will work hard to generate their own revenues which if embezzled they will feel concerned hence will start voting based on issues of who can effectively manage resources as against zoning which kills merit. This will engender accountability on the part of elected persons to office and corruption will thereby reduce both at the states and center.
As far as we know, Tinubu is one of the foremost crusaders for restructuring required to set the structure to this very type that kills nepotism, encourages hardwork, and discourages federal allocation which causess the entitlement mentality that fuels corruption.

Indispensable85:
Adamawa has no Apc governor. Make una dey try read na.

You should understand that the average Nigerian has little flair for logical reasoning.

AntonVince:
False.
Were Abiola and Buhari Pagans when millions of Christians voted them?
Even when a fellow Christian (Jonathan) was on the ballot in 2015 and 2019, didn't million of Christians vote a Muslim Buhari against him out of genuine commitment towards seeing a better Nigeria?

Nigerians simply don't want an octogenarian, Parkinson disease and incontinence-suffering age-cheating thief as president.
Stop whipping up religious sentiment.

Didn't Nigerians also vote for Buhari who was accused of all in the bolded?

OyeofIkoTuN:
We didn't point..we only said you have no right to point too..Lobatan. Let's start afresh you said No.. and we must start afresh that's the koko..

You don't start afresh in the middle of the game. 1999 was the actual opportunity to start afresh as it was actually a new opportunity but you know that Azikiwe's people once more went into an alliance with the North again to place in power a Southern lackey of theirs who ended up really doing their bidding by way of resisting restructuring, levelling Odi, hounding Alamiesegha ostensibly for corruption but glossing over far more corrupt Northern governors and even his own puppet governor in Ogun State, etc.

SOFTSKILL:
It was led by Nnamdi A sick kwe

Thanks.
But today, his brothers point very dirty accusing fingers at other Southern tribes accusing them of betrayal and division of the South as if Nigeria started to exist in 2015 when Jonathan lost.

OyeofIkoTuN:
You see that Delta.. Just skip am abeg. I use God and beg you,e get why ..we have our own issues,you see that Niger delta package, please fling it to the Bush.

Funny. But not a few SS guys got deluded by the Niger Delta package few years back.

CSTRR:
There are manufacturing companies moving to Akwaibom and Rivers state.
Even Edo state.

Those are Niger delta States too.

Not just bayelsa or Delta.

So Edo has suddenly become a Niger Delta state again? Wonders shall never really end.

CSTRR:
In 1999, the north installed OBj and used the south east and south south to put him there against the south west candidate of olu falae.

It happened again during the yaradua era.

So what makes some people think it's only their region that can be "used"?

And do you think it was a wise decision on the part of the SS and SE to have allowed themselves to be used by the North to put in power a puppet of theirs just to reward him for what he did for them in 1979 at the detriment of the South? Were we supposed to start a new democracy in 1999 on the foundation of coming to power on reward system or through the possession of the genuine qualities required for nation building?

CSTRR:
This country will never truly move forward until the south can counterbalance the north.

And the South can only counterbalance the north when they pull in one direction.

And that can only happen when there is fairness.

The reason why the lagos-calabar rail is not a priority for the Federal govt is because the south is not a true political weight yet.

The reason why Lagos will never enjoy special status anytime soon is also because of the same reason.

The same as Federalism, resource control, state policing.

All these will never happen without a United South.

And a United South will never happen because some people are used to divide and conquer the south due to over ambition and short sightedness.

Who were the southern people that first allowed themselves to be used to divide and conquer the South at independence?

samesta:
Nothing is given in politics? The two major parties gave their presidential tickets to South west on the ground of injustice, and after eight years the two major parties gave their presidential tickets to the north. The death of Y'adua destroyed it. After Goodluck's first full tenure, the north cried out just as the south east are crying out now that it's should be zoned to their zone.
I feel it's injustice to the Igbo people. I had related with the Igbos, yoruba's and various northern tribes in which I reside. When you talk about tribes that are evil and lacks conscience, it is never a tribal thing but that of an individual.

Would you mind explaining how Obasanjo's stagemanaged PDP candidacy in 1999 was an act in pursuit of justice to the Yorubas knowing fully well that he was the very person Yorubas didn't want given his anti-Yoruba antecedents? Where on earth do you do justice to a people by imposing on them a person who was part and percel of the injustice against them in the first instance?

Then what injustice against the NW was being addressed by the picking of Yaradua when Abacha, Buhari and Murtala Mohammed who ruled during the military era were already from the NW?

IGBOSON1:
Dude, you're full of shit! 'deadly truth' my black ass!

as expected of the Igbo man in his typical arrogance and allergy to facts, insults is always the route of least resistance and escape in the face of defeat.

IGBOSON1:
You make assertions based on so called 'truth' you pulled outta your ass, and when called upon to prove your assertions you start beating about the bush.....posting irrelevant, tangential hogwash!

and rather than furnish superior contrary facts to the "so-called" truths, to really prove them to be so called, you lots, like robots programmed with a predictable response, resort to mere verbal dismissal laced with insults. That is why I didn't even bother to stress myself recollecting all the evidences and links you asked for. All such attempts in the past towards your likes have always met with verbal dismissals however clear and impeccable and I didn't expect otherwise from you.

IGBOSON1:
I've been on nairaland for quite some time, and know the 'members of other tribes' of which you speak are just a handful of lying, revisionist, Igbo-hating bigots intent on trying to change the narrative and reality of the brutality of the Nigerian state from the late 60s to date!

A lot of articles have been written and shared on Nairaland chronicling Igbo politicians' and army officers' political misadventures which led to the Nigerian tragedy. The truth in such articles are established on strict logic and irrefutable facts but till today none of your likes has been able to write a compelling rebuttal to any of them yet the authors remain revisionists in your persecution complex infested brains.
When I posted a link on which Philip Asiodu, an Igbo man, confessed to the discussion he had with Ojukwu in which Ojukwu revealed to him the plan between him and Ironsi to abolish the regions, the only Igbo moniker who made an attempt to counter it came up with the watery arguement that Philip Asiodu was Gowon's lap dog as if Gowon had risen to power at the time in question to warrant Asiodu being tied to his apron strings thus defending him. So why should anyone borther himself with the task of giving further evidence to such a people who are impervious to clear facts established on common sense?

IGBOSON1:
Your failed attempt to heap all the blame for the failed Nigerian state at the doorstep of Ndigbo while absolving the Fulani and Yoruba of all blame is well known and laughable! This is what you are all about on this forum....nothing to do with any interest in upholding the truth and fairness at all times!

My membership of this forum was inspired by a quest to set the records straight as against the false propaganda which some Igbo monikers, embittered by Jonathan's loss, began to create and present as precedents and evidences to their alleged but baseless anti-Igbo conspiracy theories which are actually at huge variance with the genuine facts of life history of Nigeria's failure. I had to register to put a check to it all because of the danger it portended should the unsuspecting and impressionable youths imbibe them as truths. Thankfully to God, those Igbo monikers threw in the towel and began to avoid me for want of superior arguements and facts. No amount of revisionist tales can change the clear truth that Igbos' derailed Nigeria through their introduction of military rule and subversion of the independence constitution which guaranteed equity, fairness, equal opportunity for all citizens, and gave no room for laziness, entitlement mentality, existence of cabals at the center, etc. Every other thing that happened after Igbos' destroyed that independence constitution were all self preservation strategies by other tribes in the dog eat dog situation that was consequent upon the subversion of that beautiful and world class model constitution, hence the other tribes carried no blame. You can't blame me for whatever damage I inflict on your in self defense from your aggression.

IGBOSON1:
'Ndigbo premised their claims of marginalisation and oppression on GEJs 2015 loss'? Dude where do you come up with all this rubbish you spew on this forum?

If you were not simply daft and forgetful, you would have recalled the "we the SE/SS" identity which Igbo monikers created and peddled here to connect themselves to the mourning of Jonathan's loss. What about the cry of "Northerners and Yorubas colluded to removed Jonathan in their bid to continue with their plundering of the old Eastern Region's wealth"? Old Eastern Region meaning SE and parts of the present SS?
Have you forgotten how you Igbos derided Amaechi here on the theory that his antagonism to GEJ amounted to betrayal of the SS and their SE brothers? Wasn't the contrived SE/SS brotherhood you all based your support and love for Wike's pro-Jonathan inspired atagonism to Amaechi and the North until Wike ordered a genocide in Oyigbo, began to claim Edo ancestry amidst denial of being Igbo which all made him a villain all of a sudden in your eyes? You think we have forgotten? By the way why are we no longer hearing anything about the "we SE/SS" identity ever after Wike levelled Oyigbo and APC trounced PDP in Bayelsa with GEJ's support?

IGBOSON1:
With the benefit of hindsight, we can all see Ndigbo were right to want to stick with GEJ.....as imperfect as he was! When any Igbo speaks on the 2015 elections, it's from a position of 'we told you so'! Ndigbo had read Buhari like a book and knew he was a bigoted, visionless, and incapable islamofacist whose only aim for seeking to be president was to further his religious and ethnic interests, and we've been proven right! If your stupidity affected just you lot, it wouldn't be a problem...you could stew in it! But when your intentional missteps affect others, you should expect them to voice their opposition and make their feelings known on the matter! Just look at where we are as a country today!

See who is boasting of prowess to judge the future based on hindsight. Where did you Ndigbo keep this your jaundiced hindsight reliance prowess when at independence you rejected the proposed all-South alliance which was based on a sound ideology that would have seen Nigeria catch up with some of the worlds economic and military powers within two decades, but chose the ideologically bankrupt NPC-NCNC master-slave coalition with the same Northerners who had already started carrying out repeated genocidal epidemics on your kinsmen in the North both in 1945 in Jos and in 1953 in Kano without any justifiable reason? So how come your hindsight didn't remind you of these killings as at when you chose political marriage with your killers? Your hatred for Buhari had nothing to do with any stupid non-existent hindsight because the same reasons of Islamic fundamentalism and all what not you adduced above for your rejection of Buhari were all possessed in multiple folds by Ahmadu Bello whom you prefered political partnership with at a moment as critical as independence when the enduring political philosophy for a prosperous nation was meant to be laid on principles and ideology. Where did you keep this hindsight when you again in 1979 went with an equally bigoted, highly incompetent Shagari? Where was this hindsight in 2007 when you were the first ethnic group to endorse Yaradua who had in addition to his incompetence evidenced by his 8 year obscurity among his other 35 colleagues, signed Shariah into law as Katsina Governor in year 2000 thus openly disregarding the secularity of Nigeria as clearly stated in the 1999 constitution which he had sworn to defend and protect?

Your hate or love for anyone is premised on pecuniary interest. Buhari was campaigning with border closure which everyone knew would kill illegal importantion business of Igbos' while all Jonathan's policies were pro-Igbo economic menaces. So shove up your stinking ass all these kindergarten theory of hindsight which all precedents simply put a big lie to.