₦airaland Forum

Lionessza6:
I'm glad you enjoyed your stay here. And yes Montecasino is a vibe.

True , the two countries should be working together but strict movement of people should be established so that only those with the amounts required should be given business visas and genuine tourists and students and ofcourse special skills permit. Our way of life is too different and that means conflict.

I was being generous in calling them pieces of shyt though . Savage#:s is more appropriate. Nothing I hate more than someone who will leave his own home to cause harm to other people who have welcomed him and this is synonymous with Nigerian migrants. I wasn't referring to all Nigerians in South Africa but the lots of them who see what many are doing but will never point out those wrongs. That's why this whole Pan Africanism thing is a big joke to us.


I dont mind the reputation, infact I wish they could see us as the monsters to run away from at this moment . They must spread the word that SA is a horrible country where foreigners ride helicopters to go to work out of fear of being attacked and eaten by us

I figure I understand the criminal category your are referring to.
You are savage though.

tctrills:
Clearly you should learn more history.
In the 1950 and 60s Israel was one of the biggest opposition to the apartheid regime in south Africa.
Below is a link to educate you on that.
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93South_Africa_relations[/url]
Also when we talk about moral standing, South Africa lacks that. You can't be the world's capital of xenophobia and be expected to be taken seriously.

About Israel oppressing the Palestinians, that's your opinion and it is false.
The Palestinians have never sought peace and Israel has a right to defend itself.

“I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,” - Bishop Desmond Tutu

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/30/desmond-tutu-palestinians-israel

tctrills:
Hence the so called love of Palestine is only virtue signaling.

They have a longstanding historical association with, and support for Palestine. It didnt start today.

First, Nigerians are divided in their support. Some are on camp Israel and others on the Palestine camp.
Why should our government take any side that does not reflect the collective desire of it's people?

Nigeria should oppose apartheid, enslavement and oppression everywhere and that is what Israel has been doing to Palestine.

Winnin009:
Egyptians were originally Black. What’s your point bro?

What nation is Palestine exactly? Is it the same one with the capital of Jerusalem? Those guys claim Israel’s land till the point of claiming their capital city.

Before you pick sides, read about the history of Israel. A nation that has being in existence even before Islam as a religion as born.

Its obvious you are the one who is historically challenged. Egypt could only be said to have been ruled by black people during the 25th Dynasty in which it was conquered by the Kingdom of Kush.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Dynasty_of_Egypt

As for Israel, they were dispersed from the Roman province of Palestine 2000 years ago and scattered across the world, but mostly into Europe. No one leaves his land for 2000 years and returns to claim it as his - Land law and customs dont work that way anywhere in the world. The point I make about the color of their skins is simply to emphasize the fact that the Israeli of today is realy a specie of European.

Now in legal terms, the United Nations are of the view that most of Israel's actions (particularly the settlements in West Bank) are illegal - and they are. Israel thumbs its nose against international law simply on account of the backing of the United States.

Please go school up. You sound barely read.

Winnin009:
They belong to the same international economic group or some shit. It’s called BRICS.

Neither Israel or Palestine is a member of BRICS.

Lionessza6:
The Nigerian state did help, and in return we have given scholarships, jobs and brought investments there. But what we will never tolerate is arrogant pieces of shyt from Nigeria who come here with their desperate tendencies to make a quick buck at the expense of our communities. We won't take that abuse, your fathers were wise in supporting ours but that doesn't give you a free way into our country. Come legally and do good .

Sure I support that. I am a lawyer myself and have worked as Head of Legal at several multinationals who had their Africa HQ in Jo'Burg - so I have had cause to travel there and work a lot there. Nice times. Can't forget Montecasino.

In the modern day, NG and SA should be partners against the imperialist world, not rivals.

I would take it easy on wording like "arrogant pieces of shyt" if I were you. That doesn't help your reputation in terms of your attitude to other Africans.

Throwback:
The South Africans have experienced when foreigners come to your land and take over and push you to a corner of what is fully yours.

The Jewish refugees who left Russia and Poland and Germany to return to a region they had been ejected from for almost 2000 years by the Romans, have no right over the lands that the Arabs had been living on since the 7th century.

Do you know that the first set of 6 Prime Ministers of Israel that was formed in 1947, were all born outside of Palestine?

They were all born in Europe.

How does a refugee tribe displace the original modern occupants of the land that trace their unbroken ownership to the past 1300 years?

You are quite right here and one will easily notice that the modern Israeli is simply an European, period. They dont even have the complexion of the Semitic people all around them - Israelites of old would have looked just like Arabs. The Israeli of today is a white man, plain and simple.

Hotice085:
When they say you South Africans don't know anything but only what is happening in Soweto you will be frowning your faces like goats waiting to be sold at the market square

For how long now have you not been hearing of Sudan before it divided into two countries and yet the crisis is still ongoing?

When John Gerrang was fighting the Arabs Chief Muthelezi Buttelezi of Inkatha freedom party was busy sabotaging the ANC, now the ANC is in government they are running to the land of Arabs to support them
Useless party that Africans funded against the Apartheid government

Please just shut up and stop showing off your stupidity and ignorance.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO. Im sorry....but Who are you to tell us which struggle we should embrace ? . Did the Sudanese carry our case on their heads when we were at the receiving end like the Palestinians and Yasser Arafat did ?.

I hear most of what you say and have no quarrel with it. Just remember that one of the principal countries that carried your case on its head was Nigeria.

tctrills:
Please can you explain what you mean by spiritual association?

South Africa has long seen a mirror of its experiences in the hands of the minority apartheid white government in the treatment of Palestinians by Israel. South Africa, like much of the world, recognizes the practices of Israel as apartheid. South Africa, having suffered apartheid, has a genuine emotional and spiritual sympathy for Palestine. The late Madiba and Rev Desmond Tutu both expressed this.

Again, south African xenophobia is in no way akin to the anti-immigration sentiments in many western countries. Please please tell me the western countries where their citizens kill, loot, burn, and rape migrants, both legal and illegal?
Please stop compering things that don't relate just to justify your hypocrisy.
1000s of black Africans have been harmed in south African. As a black, you are more safer living in the west than in south Africa.
So please enough of this nonsense.

While I agree that the violence is not the same, the sentiment behind it is what I refer to.
And sure, Xenophobia in SA is a serious issue that must not be taken lightly.

However this does nothing to take away SA's historical empathy to the Palestinian cause.
If Nigeria had its head correct, we should be in the vanguard of support for Palestine as well - because as the largest congregation of black people in the world, we should be seen to be the most outspoken for oppressed and enslaved people everywhere - given what the black race has experienced in the last few centuries.

But we have no ideology in Nigeria. We are only interested in stealing money and impoverishing our people.

Christlike01:
Clout chasing fools from the pit of xenophobic hell, you have loads of domestic issues to solve but Israel - Gaza war is what the mumu government of SA decides to prioritize ! Mrs Naledi Pandor,you can't sleep with your two eyes closed again 'cause you and your govt have murdered sleep !

Touch not my anointed,says the Lord ! Israel is not just a country,it is a nation with powerful anointing on its head ! South Africa will definitely hear from the God of Israel, it's just a matter of time !

Africans and their tomfoolery.
Mr. Christlike01, I hope you know this country you are shouting the anointing on, dem no send Jesus at all oh.

successman100:
Sout Africa,

Israel na your mate?
Israel is a G7.

I hope you know SA voluntarily relinquished its nuclear weapons. In short, they are not babies.

S.A is a Zoo

Even though there is much poverty in SA, make no mistake, many places in SA are no different from Europe and North America.

CoronaVirusPro:
When you delve into such discuss without having “Basic” knowledge, it’s is generally believed that your age could have made you missed occurrences.

Gbam, Thank you.

Procashtips:
Israel supported the apartheid regime in South Africa then which they have also been doing in Palestine for years.

Wetin concern your second paragraph with what's being discussed?

Thank you.

torqque7:
By saying S.A is chasing clout just like Tonto?hmm anyway we all see things differently and that's the beauty of life.

Yes - because the issue at play is apartheid and that is a very serious human, international and historical issue.

torqque7:
And what does that have to do with his age?Abi you expect him to know the history of every simgl country on the planet?SMH make una dey think before talking na.

He sounded childish.

tctrills:
It's ironic that you don't see the hypocrisy. The number xenophobic nation is leading a case against Israel.
But then, anything against Israel is acceptable to you guys.
Leave the young man to make his case. It's better to be funny than to be a hypocrite.

Xenophobia in South Africa is indeed of concern but in no way eliminates the country's historical and spiritual association with the Palestinian cause arising from its own apartheid struggle.

By the way, South African Xenophobia is more akin to the anti-immigration sentiments in many western countries on account of economic reasons ("they are stealing our jobs, polluting our environment, etc). Although one does not support such sentiments either, this is quite different from the apartheid practiced by Israel and which South Africa is naturally sensitive to.

ValCon888:
I love that South Africa is trying to be politically relevant on the international stage, but they need to look inwards first before shaking their small nyash outside.

They struggle with Xenophobia, HIV is off the roof, and the typical South African man is inherently lazy.

Let's not even talk about crime. I've lived in SA, and that country is the closest thing to playing Grand Theft Auto in real life.

Out of the 10 Most Dangerous Cities in Africa, 7 of them are in South Africa.

If countries in the global south have to wait to "get their act together" in a manner of speaking - before they play seriously in the international arena, then we will simply lose our voice for a number of critical generations as things move along in the world.

Aside from this, South Africa has a historical and spiritual connection to the Palestinian cause arising from its own apartheid struggle.

Nigeria ought to take a cue from this. We are disgracefully silent in the international arena and stand for nothing.

Zonefree:
There's no much difference between South Africa as a nation and Tonto Dike. They're clout chasers!

How old are you, and what is your conception of your purpose on Earth?
I ask these because your comment betrays scandalous unseriousness.

South Africa's alignment with the Palestinian cause has deep roots tracing back to its own apartheid struggle.

VeryWickedMan:
Because there are no Nigerian officials this time.

A Nigerian as an umpire is ordinarily an anomaly. It is like picking a member of the Sicilian or Colombian or Mexican Mafia as a judge in a civil law court.

Lifemanage:
Are u sure of this figures u just quoted?

Oh I didn't pull them out of the air, even though I knew already, I still checked with Google Bard (now Gemini - Google's AI) before posting.

samcolee:
Remember most Nigerians have more than 10sims how do you keep track of it

Yahoo boys have more than tens Sims, not most Nigerians.

Lifemanage:
Each person has up to 3-4 lines

Only a small percentage do. The vast majority do not. Maybe you think your average market woman, aboki trader or bus conductor has separate data lines.

Besides that amount of registered sim cards is only one indicator of our real population. There are many more indicators. Whatever it might be, your estimate of fifty million is la la land. For the last election INEC registered over 90 million people. Yes, INEC has integrity issues, but that is not necessarily a matter of registered voters with biometric voters cards. And consider that the vast majority of our population are minors!

NIN Registration as of December 2022 was over 94 million.

There are too many indicators. I cant go on and on. Nigeria is a hugely populous place.

Lifemanage:
I doubt this no....we are not more than 50m

Registered SIM cards alone are almost 200 million. Wake up.

Sunijacks:
All these monies have being embezzled.
This is Nigeria

As though there was ever any doubt.

When people talk carelessly saying the subsidy removal was ideal and that Nigeria will profit from it, one can only conclude that these people have no knowledge of, and no experience of Nigeria whatsoever. What toddler doesn't know that such "savings" will be redirected to private pockets abroad?

finishmatter:
Not entirely true. It has positive n negative outcomes

I will say it again. But this time, please take a deep breath, no: three deep breaths, and read it very slowly, with deepest thoughts on the bold. Here goes:

Devaluation is suicide for an import dependent economy.

Now let that sink in slowly, like I said, again, with emphasis on the bold.

If you still have trouble with it, please first reflect on the question : in what scenario will devaluation favour an import dependent economy. And also on the question: if you import everything (in Nigeria we import even toothpicks) will devaluation not mean you consistently have to pay more of your currency for less dollars in order to obtain goods, something that thus becomes a vicious cycle.

Understand this: devaluation can only possibly be of any good to a robust producing economy. An industrial one - such as Japan, China or South Korea.

If with these, you cannot see the light in what I say, revert.

finishmatter:
Exactly. This is actually one of d benefits of devaluation.

Devaluation is suicide for an import dependent economy.

seborrhic:
Confession time.
I have said it that even in the US and the most advanced countries in the world,with average incomes 500 times our own and able to afford basic life needs,if fuel price had gone up and their currency devalued,both at the same time,there would have been riots in their streets because of the effect it would have on everyone.
But here,a balablu wanted to act Jackie Chan,thought he was knowledgeable when he has been found to be empty or at best sawdust brain filled;went ahead to announce both measures on his first day in office.
And like all empty brained people,when the effects of what they do or their policies start going awry,they look lost and clueless or what next to do.
This is the sad situation of our life today with Tinubu.

That it didn't cause a mass revolt of a violent nature speaks alot about Nigeria and Nigerians. Perhaps the suffering has not reached its boiling point. Perhaps it needs to intensify. When it reaches a true boiling point, we will react. Until then, we deserve it.

IjeBos:
How are those personalities working out OmoteeJanet/Slyfoxx?

An obvious raging lunatic. You should ignore him.

Nvestor02:
Hmmm, Tinubu keep proving it that he want betterment for Nigerians. I know that this estate would be so cheap for the people to afford.

Housing is big part of good governance. Under his leadership, the State allocation has increased by 41 percentage. But there no infrastructure in our states that match the amount of money they are now receiving.

Instead of blaming all, the werey people will single handed the president for all faults.

STFU and get lost retrogressive baboon, accursed to delight in slavery, poverty and oppression forever.

ceragon123:
Where is my fried, Mr Una Neva C. Something

Do you mean Mr. Unago C. Shege?

Chukwuka319:
Death to all of them
1.Murderers
2.Rapists.
3.Kleptomaniac politicians
4.Kidnappers
5.Witches
6.Armed robbers

Witches ? ? ?

In the 21st century ? ? ? ?