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EreluRoz:
Akpabio does not have the interest of Nigeria at heart, it shows in all his dealings. Sad

And he lacks tact in all his statements. Very unguarded utterances all the time.

@ Smartypants...
You see what I mean?

PHAYOL81:
Congrats to the team. More wins LEKKI port, more wins LAGOS state.

MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS LAGOS STATE

FOR A GREATER LAGOS STATE

EKO ONI BAJE O



LAGOS was never the capital of NIGERIA since 1914. get your fact right and stop misleading people （to score a cheap point） as NIGERIA gained independence only in 1960 and that was when LAGOS officially became the capital . What happened in 1914 was just amalgamation which was based on the percieved inter-relationship between the tribes in today's NIGERIA, especially where trade, religion and marital alignment are concerned. And moreover, each region still operated and improved its economy and development respectively independently without assistant-resources from another EVEN BEYOND NIGERIA INDEPENDENCE TILL 1966 WHEN STVP!D IRONSI broke the regional government for a central UNITARIAN government so please don't make it look like LAGOS was developed by the general common wealth since 1914 WHEN THE SAME LAGOS WAS FAR AHEAD OF OTHER PLACES EVEN BEFORE AMALGAMATION IN DEVELOPMENT AND CIVILITY IN RAIL AND BRT TRANSIT, ELECTRIFICATION, PORTS SYSTEM, BANKING SECTOR, EDUCATION AND HEALTH FACILITIES etc.

Please let's stop making unguarded fact to justify personal opinion. LAGOS WAS MET BY NIGERIA AS ONE OF THE BEST PLACE TO BE IN AFRICA.

So according to you colonies didnt have capitals before independence? You are frankly illiterate.

chidiokay:
It was suppose to be a secret ballot as you don loud am i respect your choice

I dont know what you are referring to, but I didnt vote.
For whatever its worth, you ought to have read my post in the light of yours talking about how Lagos becoming the economic nerve centre of Nigeria was down to deliberate effort to make it so by creating "an enabling environment."

That is just tosh. Lagos is the economic nerve centre of Nigeria because it was its capital for almost a century and significant Federal concentration was placed here along with the peoples, energies and resources accumulated from all over this country.

Good day again, non-bastardo.

Yankiss:
Femi Adeshina, this is the chronicles of a failed administration. What do u expect us to do with all these now? Buhari dug the grave and BAT is trying to do the final post mortem.

SmartPolician:
Femi Adesina must be deluded to think that sane people will spend their hard-earned money to buy a book about the same Buhari that threw Nigeria's economy into a mess and made sure Nigeria became the world's poverty capital. .

On second thought, people always say that people wey dey okay for this country no reach five...so the book could be a bestseller.

Fujiyama:
^^^


Femi Adesina isn't acclaimed and he most certainly isn't learned.

He is a 3rd rate journalist who was appointed to do a job by Muhammadu Buhari. These two men gave official approval for the unbelievable wickedness that we have going on in places like Bokkos and Barkin Ladi today.

Their day of reckoning for the blood of the innocent shed on the hills of Plateau will surely come.

And unlike Segun Adeniyi's books on the Yaradua years (Power, Politics and Death) and the Goodluck Defeat (Against the run of play) I am 100 per cent certain this book of his will be an empty boring meaningless read.

chidiokay:
How you could read my last sentence and still think everything is about "Tinubu" shows your level of reasoning
Does "Tinubu " sums up past leaders, before Tinubu we had amazing leaders in Lagos and post Tinubu we have wonderful governors ...

Your problem is Tinubu and you singled out Tinubu becos you know his blueprints is the bedrock of lagos current transformation you are just tew petty to admit it

Lagos is not the only state on the coastal line and nothing is stopping PH or calabar from recieving ship consignments if they want

Having a functioning sea port still boils down to effective Management in place, others state have seaport but only lagos is working shows "Human/govt Effort" is sancrosanct to economic expansion & growth

When other states are busy doling out excuses & using FG to cover for their inadequacies & cluelessness to run a seaport, Tinubu conceived Lagos seaport without FG and you think Honor should not be given to whom it due,

Its convenient to blame Tinubu for all the problems of Nigeria presently but you can not give BAT credit for a vision well implemented in lagos, what does that make you

Listen, bro, that your Parent is from Lagos or you are from Lagos only means you are a Lagosian by place of birth, there are patriot and there are bastards

Was going to respond properly but the last line with "bastards" instructed me on what is worth it and what is not.

Have a good day.

Printme:
The statistics is that if I give a child to a single father and another one to a single mother, the chances that the child will turn out bad is higher for the single mother than the father.

1. Where did you see this specific statistic - please don't deploy the stats for dual parent homes for single father homes.

2. At all events, the underlying factor will be economic - given the likelihood that more men earn better.

Printme:
God. Reasoning with some of you is hopeless like trying to catch a shadow.

Put two parents on the same income and single mother on the same income.

The chances are the same. Nothing about poverty

You show up your absolutist approach with the bold words.
I am not an absolutist.

Printme:
yes boss.

72% of them

This is like 7 out of 10 children will be rapist. 70 out of 100 will turn out bad.

It's there in the stats

Ok, fair enough, but thats still an economic thing.
Its poverty at work.

Printme:
so why all the insults then?

Where have I insulted you?

Printme:
How about the other millions that are rapists?

If legit stats were sought out about the backgrounds of all the rapists in a given country, are you sure you can bet that most of them would be from homes with single mothers?

waxxydude:
Lmao, look at this r3-tarded idiot. Each response right from your first comment exposes your level of thought and mental assimilation.

I legit introduced your mind to a very valid instance on how you can indeed learn from films. And what is your response? ... You wonder why Nigerians are extremely backward. Keep being simpleminded and have a good day 😎

PS; you don't have to learn from all movies as some are ludicrous and purely for entertainment value, but you can learn ALOT from many mindful movies.

That chap is not worthy of any response from anyone.

Printme:
you're contradicting yourself.

No one talked about the reason why. I just stated a fact that single mothers tend to raise worse kids.

That's the primary fact. Even with resources, they will still turn out less compared to two parents with the same amount of resources

I dont think anyone disputes that an ideal home has both father and mother.

7lives:
Really?, but Kano is doing better than Port Harcourt and Warri, what really happened?.
See ise opolo ni, eje lol nlo.

I can't claim to know how Kano is doing but I am sure corruption is at the root of many states (especially oil producing states) not hitting even a tenth of their potential.

Okwyjesus:
Fubara is really a gentleman.

Quite often, this word "gentleman" is synonymous with "pussy" or "mumu" or "simp". . . .

chidiokay:
There is something called "Enabling Environment" and it as become more of an habit for your likes not to take into cognisance

Lagos didnt just become the economic Hub of Nigeria "naturally", meaning some people made deliberate effort to make Lagos the economic hub, however between the people & the govt whose prerogative is to creat an "Enabling Environment" if not the govt

Its convenient for some people to undermine the effort of the govt with Lagos is former capital But why is Abuja not setting the Pace by now ?? institutions are bringing back there HQ to lagos, so why ?? maybe there is more to capital.

Lekki seaport, eko atlantics, dangote refinery and forthcoming airport will be major contributor to economic boom ... becos someone had a vision of "lekki free trade zone"
synergy, common goal and continuity in governance is Lagos leverage not "Former Capital" .. we must give credit to all past & present leader of lagos

I am no absolutist but I fear you may be one. I sincerely hope you are not one of those who insinuate that Bola Tinubu found Lagos as a virgin and unknown forest in 1999 and made it what it is today.

You vastly underestimate the importance of the fact of Lagos having been the capital of this country from 1914 till 1991.
Indeed, for you, there is a special breed of people who live in Lagos, who are probably not Nigerians, and whose special vision and intellect is solely responsible for all that Lasgidi is.

Its diverse pan-Nigerian population of over twenty million people has nothing to do with it. Its situation as Nigeria's capital for almost a century has nothing to do with it. The resources and economic energies of two hundred million plus people who deal around it as their economic nerve centre has nothing to do with it. The petro dollars that were responsible for much of its development have nothing to do with it - in fact, whatever it receives as Fed allocation up till date from oil revenue contributes diddly squat. Its location on the coast and consequent designation from the time of the Portuguese as gateway to the lands that became Nigeria has nothing to do with it. Its international stature as the melting pot of the largest black nation on Earth has nothing to do with it.

No - all these have nothing whatsoever to do with it - it is all down to the great vision and leadership of one man - Bola Tinubu, before whom, Lagos was a small and unknown coastal village.

PS: Whoever you are, you cannot possibly be more Lagosian than I am - nor can you love Lasgidi more than I do.

TopBanter:
Of course I know that played a part. A significant one even. Yet all States have to make the best of themselves using what have that will then be harnessed by inspired leadership.

We would all be best served holding our leaders to account rather than playing victim and insinuating others got where they are exclusively because of favoritism.

Bayelsa, for example, has no businesses being where she is today. How many Bayelsans are complaining and protesting bitterly and publicly against their indolent leaders? Yet they all find their voice of scathing negativity when Lagos delivers another superlative project.

How can a hardworking and fair- minded person not resent that attitude knowing it is what is killing Nigeria?

I am from from SW and make no excuses. I deeply hate what has been made of Ogun State. A State that has so much potentials and should be running Lagos close because of so much natural endowment. More so than Lagos even. Most Yorubas are first to highlight our own problems and don't go around pettily attacking good developments elsewhere.

We face our woes and leaders even as I feel we need to do that more. Far more in fact. Nigerians need to go and do that in all their States of origin and stop poking their nose in the affair of others while neglecting their own hideous misrule at home.

It is the attitude of Yorubas to introspect sincerely on their own problems that led to the DAWN initiative and very detailed report, in 2013, highlighting the plan for the development of the SW. An interlinked rail system, to connect all thebSW, is even mentioned in detail.

Every region should be up and doing developing similar to DAWN and trying to implement solutions proferred instead of this sadism and busybody 'bad belle' consuming Nigerians and Nigeria today.

Gumi will tell us bandit feel neglected and let down because they have no education, jobs etc. Yet how I that the fault of the SE, SS, SE or middle belt rather than Northern leaders? Can Sanwo Olu go and lead Gombe or Borno?

Start a successuful business today and all Nigerians what to do exactly that and won't think of nothing else anymore. That leads to stagnation. Ditto how we found crude oil in commercial quantity and abandoned all other previous sources of wealth foe Nigeria.

Under regional governance, legislators worked part time and still drew their major money from their main jobs. Once the military made political offices full time and very profitable, all Nigerians wanted to be politicians or be affiliated with politic getting contract and largesse froma patronage system that should really be a call to service.

It is the same reason all Nigerians are flocking to the developed States instead of staying to challenge their leaders to deliver development others are enjoying.

The fact is that we really need to go through a 10 to 15 year period of all Nigerians solidly facing their leaders, region and problems while leaving others to do same. That is the only template that can develop all of Nigeria evenly and thoroughly

Bravo. This is very well said.
Good morning.

TopBanter:
Always full of of excuses for failure. Who is they? Lekki deep sea port, FTZ, and international airport are Lagos State's own PPP initiatives.

Do you know how lazy, unimaginative and uninspired SS and SE leaders are? Truth has to be said to you lot because you never look at yourselves and prefer deflecting blame to others.

Bayelsa, for example, gets 13% derivation, has a relatively small population and has had her son as the Nigerian President. Yet it is one of the State that has 'failed' status today.

NDDC, set up and funded to better the lot of the SS, is a hotbed of wixked looting and unpatriotic corruption by SS leaders against SS folks. Whonis the 'they" making SS leaders do that?

All you lot know to do is complain and play victim of lagos-focused 'injustice' as if you are entirely powerless to shape your own space and future as Lagos is doing to the extent it is now one of the most understudied geographical space in Africa.

If we were in a regionally autonomous arrangement, is this how you lot will still be envying Lagos and complaining decietfully it is favouritism responsible for her development when the fact are there to show it is the inspired leadership Lagos has had, back to back, since 1999 that has made the State what she is today?

Look in the mirror,get up and start working innovatively. Stop complaining and playing victim which you certainly are not.

Look much of what you say here is in fair order, however I hope you do not fall into the category of those who imagine Lagos "is what it is" exclusively because of its "inspired leadership" - to the exclusion of its role as the economic nerve centre of Nigeria.

TopBanter:
Save your rubbish for those who care. You don't understand the concept of relevance and taken every news on it's own merit.

When good developments are highlighted, you celebrate that and save the lamentation for a thread where such is relevant.

Your lamentation is as wanted here as someone shedding tears about a recent death, at the naming ceremony of a new baby that has brought joy to people who simply want to celebrate and be happy at that time. It does not mean they dón't understand that death and pain exist in the world.

They simply know there is a time and place for everything. Yes those I call sadistic are exactly that and joyless also.

Ah well.
Context is everything.

Remember that those you address also speak in context.

Someone up there for example, was lavishing praise on the president on account of the subject of this thread.
It is in such a context that those pained by his policies will rightfully raise their hands.

sgtponzihater1:
I used average man and average woman. And science and psychology has validated the facts. I cringe when i see women trying to teach men how to be men, especially when they have not worked in a man's shoe,

Many more women than you will guess have walked in men's shoes and in fact been the men in their families.

and when women where actually made for men and not the other way round.

This is a sad chauvinistic statement based on antiquated religious notions. Men and women are made for one another.

Should we ignore the glaring fact and Effects of Fatherlessness –

63% of all youth suicides,
70% of all teen pregnancies,
71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers,
80% of all prison inmates, and
90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes.

Socio-economic factors, as I said.

Finally this is what the bible instructs older women to do, this absolutely settles it for me:

"These older women must train the younger women to love their husbands and their children, to live wisely and be pure, to work in their homes, to do good, and to be submissive to their husbands"

PonziHater

The Abrahamic religions are generally chauvinistic and their conception of the place of women is antiquated and has no place in any modern egalitarian society.

TopBanter:
Just a bitter, twisted and sadistic soul. Even more sad if the character is truly female.

What could be more sadistic than what has been inflicted on Nigerians since May 29 last year? Are you aware that the petrol price increase in a single day was the highest in the history of the world? In other words, in no country have petrol subsidies been removed totally in a single day so as to jack the price up at once by two hundred per cent. In every country this is done gradually in phases. Only in Nigeria was it done like that. Don't take my word for it, research it, I did. What is that if not sadism?

And then you follow up immediately by floating the naira leading to such depreciation that devalues the naira so much that the inflation that kicks in is murderous. Is it that you don't live in Nigeria, or you don't shop in Nigeria or you are so rich it doesn't register with you? Because I don't get it.

When people say these are teething pains they are deploying a familiar excuse for bad policy making. This could have been handled much much better by any leader who was sensitive.

Sadistic?
Think again.

Printme:
@ DeepSight

Two parents have raise criminals. We are all aware of that.

What we are saying is the single mothers raise "more" criminals.

Like what's so hard to understand here?

Everybody get money but Bill Gate get money pass everybody.

Two parents can raise criminals but single mothers tends to raise more criminals.

Omo, olodo full this country sha

Also consider the socio-economic (i.e: money) factor.
What is often at play in most single mother homes is a matter of lack of resources and not necessarily questionable parenting.

sgtponzihater1:
When people ask what if? They simply want to argue, and do no deserve an answer.

The average man is stronger, taller and more muscular than the average woman. However, there are some women who could be stronger than a man. The what if group focus on that one woman in their village that used to beat men up.

However, we know from science and sports that men and women should not compete together due to the average male being stronger than the average female.

The average female is emotional and more focused on love and emotion, that why a woman will mostly will stick to her child even though he is a murderer, rapist, drug addict, or fraudster. She will rather give all excuses for him, and even claim society failed him. That's the heart of the average woman. She is 100% loving, but truth and discipline is not her forte. Some women try to be hard on their children especially in the absence of a father, but they take the control to excessive form, they were not created for this, so never find a balance. Other just pamper their child to stupor.

The average man However is less emotional and more focused on truth and fact. That's why men take time to make decision, as opposed to women who can make instinctive decision.

A child, especially male needs a good balance of love and truth to navigate life appropriately. We say I know a man raised by a woman that ended up well, however most people saying ended up well, are only looking at life in terms of money, and think if you have money then you are balanced and have ended up well. That's how depraved our society has become, a society that measure people in terms of finances alone.

I know a big brother star with cars and houses, raised by a woman. He was all over the house crying like a woman at every instance. People say he ended up well, however he is not an emotionally balanced man, as men do not cry at the blink of an eyes. Another owner of a Nigerian movie streaming app always rushes to social media to either boast of his children school fees being high or taking x number of holidays, then ends up making an apology, people say he ended up well because he earns well, but his obvious gaffs are not masculine.


PonziHater

Mostly fair points I would say, but still life is too complex and variegated for this simplicity. A man is like this, a woman is like that - my dear, the truth is that people are simply different from individual to individual, such that all of the various traits you touched upon can randomly be found in both single mother homes and dual parent homes, and in fact even in single father homes. In fact you will find such traits scattered among children of the same single mother home - i.e: in that same home, there will be an emotional child and there will be a stoic child.

That is the true natural complexity of people.

When it is suggested that children from single parent homes tend to be deviant, I would strongly suggest that greater attention is paid to the usual socio-economic difficulty that attends such homes, rather than the mere fact that they are single parent homes.

Printme:
@ DeepSight

Two parents have raise criminals. We are all aware of that.

What we are saying is the single mothers raise "more" criminals.

Like what's so hard to understand here?

Everybody get money but Bill Gate get money pass everybody.

Two parents can raise criminals but single mothers tends to raise more criminals.

Omo, olodo full this country sha

I think the problem was with the presentation of the case in absolute terms. After all, when I said "many" great men are raised by single mothers, I didnt say "all" great men are raised by single mothers, did I? If anything I acknowledged the importance of father figures, and thats why I told you to read those seventeen words you said you dont need to read.

Good morning.

SmartyPants:
But the post of mine you quoted explains already... key difference is in the operating environment. Urban area vs countryside. Vastly different.

Police generally don't train to operate in such environments. That is why our Armed Forces Act says the armed forces can be called upon to fulfil the policing function. It has already been foreseen that there are certain tasks beyond the police.

And its the same everywhere. In the US there are things ordinary police wont touch. The FBI or local SWAT teams will be called instead. At a certain level they can call in the national guard.

Same in the UK. For instance, the Iranian embassy siege was resolved by the SAS not the police.

There is a limit to what the police can do especially here where they are understaffed and underfunded.

I understand that. It's just tiresome the way we move from one term to another with ease and for convenience.

PS: An airstrike by the air force to hit one kidnapper still doesn't fly, no pun intended.

Shobizz:
We were raised by Mumcy
We grew up at Oshodi
3 guys & 4 ladies
None of us turn to be wayward.
You try nonsense, mama deal with you severely.

Times without number Mumcy go beat hell out of me say I dey play gamble (Baba Ijebu), I never for once visit there.

Game center. Mumcy burst me there times without number. Any single report from neighbors we are dead meat

The woman really try for our lives.
God bless her for me massively

Bless!

Ashley86400:
Leave OP na, make dem dey talk.
What about fathers that died or were just never there?

There is NO one way to raise a child.
Two perfect parents have raised future criminals/ Pychopaths/Wife beaters/ Prostitutes e.t.c
Same as single parents.
Just train your child, be a voice of reason to him or her and hope for the best- in the end it’s in your child’s hands how useful he/she will be in the society.

Thank you!

Gbam!

Please I recommend the words in red bold to everyone here!

SmartyPants:
The primary objective of the police is to maintain law and order as a civil force - within a civil setting. Their training is based on the urban context and they do not have the tactical training or equipment to successfully confront bandits out in the wilderness.

We create terms for convenience in this country. One day we woke up and realized that the word "bandit" exists. Who is a bandit?

bandit
noun [ C ]
UK /ˈbæn.dɪt/ US /ˈbæn.dɪt/

a thief with a weapon, especially one belonging to a group that attacks people travelling through the countryside

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bandit

How is this outside the remit of the police?

SmartyPants:
I think you're attempting to oversimplify a very complex issue.

Thank you for your well reasoned response which I appreciate very much.

We can also agree that there is likely to be a high degree of corruption in military procurement. That much we can infer from history. But we can also infer from history that this has been reduced. How? Well in the past, particularly in the Dasuki days, we saw tons of videos from soldiers in the field complaining that their weapons are inferior. We heard tales of entire bases being overrun. We can safely infer that something has changed. Now what the soldiers are complaining about is that their 35k wage award has not been paid.

What happened in Plateau State over Christmas - and how long has this been going on for?
How many people were killed - and how does that justify the conclusion that there is any improvement in security maters in this country?

Where I cannot agree with you at all is where you imply that "kidnapping" is solely a Police issue. Not in Nigeria. Whether you call them kidnappers or terrorists, what we are talking about are highly armed, well-funded and highly coordinated militias who do not operate in the urban context. Tackling such groups is not what the police are trained to do. On the contrary, this is exactly what the military is trained to do.

Oh believe you me, when a Boko Haram kidnaps over 200 girls from a school, I can accept this sort of argument. Not with the sort of sparse and disparate incidents being put forward in this case.

The idea that Nigeria's security issues are overblown just for the sake of personal enrichment is far-fetched. The evidence does not support it unless you would want to argue that our neighbours, Chad, Niger and Cameroun are also just playing along for similar or other reasons. It may be true that there are people enriching themselves on the back of the conflicts but that the conflicts are being driven by the greed of those in power seems fundamentally untrue.

To be clear I do not believe that Nigeria's security issues are overblown. They are very very real. I would be the last person to say that they are overblown. As an aside, you may have a peep at my personal experience here - and see why I would never say that -

https://www.nairaland.com/1087891/armed-robbery-experience-thoughts-nigerian

What I do believe however, is that the Nigerian state capitalizes on security issues in the most callous and corrupt fashion. In this way there is much subterfuge, much smoke and mirrors, much dancing behind curtains and much diversion of funds.

I do not buy this particular incident of the airforce routing kidnappers.

1. How many Kidnappers necessitated an air strike?

2. What intelligence was gathered to be sure there were not kidnapped people with them at the time they were allegedly bombed into oblivion?

3. What government in the world addresses kidnapping through airstrikes by its airforce?

4. If this is a proper and accepted method, why was it not deployed to simply eviscerate those who kidnapped the Chibok girls (together with the girls?)

Finally Wike. Unlike Dasuki, Wike is not in any way a part of the security apparatus. Dasuki had a reason to receive monies meant for arms - he was National Security Adviser. Wike is merely FCT minister and his sole role is to liaise with the relevant security agencies. There's no version of events where monies assigned to the armed forces will pass through his hands - so where's the incentive again?

Please don't underestimate Wike. He uses political capital to make the unusual happen. I can see from the noises he is making that he will insist on a security budget for his ministry. And it will not be altogether unusual. Afterall, the FCTA is the government of the FCT and security is the part of the remit of every government.

Printme:
I don't need to read it again.

You said rubbish again just as I predicted.

Enjoy.

Printme:
some of you don't have simple comprehensive sense.

Children from single mothers tend to be the bad eggs.

It didn't say children from single mothers will always be bad eggs.

If you raised a child alone as a mother, the chances that that boy will become a criminal or a drug addict is very high compared to when that boy is raised by the father.

This doesn't mean that the boy will always turn out to be fine.

Why I dey even explain self when you go talk another rubbish again? Mtcheeeeew

Read again the first seventeen words in my sentence which you responded to.

I don't know why reading is a problem for this generation.

MuslimIgbo:
What's the statistics?
Of course, there'll always be some exemptions.

George Washington, Franklin Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, Barrack Obama, Jim Daly, Michael Phelps, Justin Bieber, Tim Tebow, Shaquille O’Neal, LeBron James, Elon Musk.

And even if this list isn't for women, Oprah.