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TenQ:
Okay, I'll look at the link

And in your spare time, watch the videos here -

https://www.youtube.com/@NabiAsli1

TenQ:
Islam had been a tool Mohammed had used to brainwash Muslims. The more the lies of Islam are exposed, the more they clutch on to it.

It beats my imagination when all the atrocities of Mohammed are ascribed to him as righteousness!

If you really want to have a huge laugh about Islam, you should take a look here -

https://www.nairaland.com/524918/muhammed-teachings-shaitan-satan-just

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TenQ:
I know you subscribe to neither: however you seem to be completely IGNORANT of Islam.

Mary the Mother of Jesus CANNOT be the Sister of Aaron or Daughter of Imran because they lived at least 1200 years apart.
Mary is NOT even from the tribe of Levi which is the tribe of Moses and Aaron

I am fully aware of the time differential - and I would have thought that you would have framed your poser with that as the key question, rather than wondering about the difference between a daughter and a sister and a wife.

If I was you, I would simply have pointed at the time differential and left it at that. The question of daughter and sister and wife is neither here nor there. As I said, they could well be references to different people.

Also you should be careful about lineages because they can skip erratically between the lineage of fathers and that of mothers. Jesus is called Son of David for example, notwithstanding being generations away from David - and not being the biological son of Joseph!

TenQ:
Is Mary the Daughter of Imran?
Is Mary the Sister of Aaron and Moses?
Is Mary the Wife of Pharaoh?

These are the Questions

I can't see how it is impossible for her to be all three of these.

I also can't see how it is impossible that these are references to three different people.

I am just pointing something out, I trust you know that I do not subscribe to either the Christian or Islamic narrative.

TenQ:
Three people were mentioned: But Two are the same.

Are you sure two are the same. Can Pharaoh not have more than one sister.

But TenQ - is the daughter of my Father not my sister?
What is the contradiction between Mary being the daughter of Imran (father of Moses and Aaron) and also being sister to Moses and Aaron?
Surely, your father's daughter is your sister, or am I missing something here?

ochrato:
When would we grow past this as a country?

This is shameful

Not in our lifetimes, my friend.
Perhaps that of our kids or their kids.

Creamypie:
Humans are totally useless.God created this earth as one. Humans partitioned it into bits, created over 300 different government with different administrations, for centuries. Meanwhile, all humans are dust and will return back to dust that they are. Everything we are fighting for will become nothing. Where is abacha, gaddhaffi, bokassa, sense seko, Mandela, Botha? We, including all our gods of men, are all just a heap of sand

This is such a thoughtless post. Who created humans - according to at least one major religion - in his own image?
Therefore who is responsible for the nature of humans?

PoliteActivist:
How e take consign your papa? Suppose you or she no want children nko? Na by force?

beekind:
Guy please don't address my dad like that.

That fellow didnt address your pop bro. He addressed you.

Three million IGR from all LGAs is not mere incompetence or truancy. It is grand theft on a cosmic scale.

Majesty7:
I think that should go back to you. However you make it less stressful for you, his father is one of the richest black man alive. You can do your findings.

So sad you guys don't read. The OP rushed to.post rubbish thinking he is doing great. I fear for you guys future

Please where did this wealth come from. You boast about the blatant theft of your inheritance and you feel smart and proud about it.

Majesty7:
So was the property listed for sale? So because the property was once owned by someone involved in fraud the property should be burnt?

Now buying property is now a crime? What should be investigated is that if the fund used to buy the property is fraudulent. If not, then go to hell.

If EFCC list a building for sale and I bought it. Does that means I did wrong because the house was once seized due to fraud?

What is wrong with you people? Is it that you are prepared to be fleeced and raped forever? Do you simply enjoy being stolen blind or what? How can you not ask yourself how the boy came about $11 Million for such a side luxury?

This is the same way you are cool with having a president who has made narcotics related forfeitures.

This is the worst kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

wirinet:
I believe the difference between Nigeria and Ghana that makes things seem to work is their value system is not as corrupted as Nigeria (yet that is, a we are moving our churches and prosperity nonsense over there). People still do their job without enducements. Police still works, civil servants still works, etc.

That's why I wrote about our value or should I say our religious system. We concentrate too much on the self, the ego instead of trying to build a just and prosperous society. We are taught that personal wealth and development is more important than societal wealth and development, and so we don't mind killing, cheating and destruction to achieve personal wealth and development. We can always "Japa" after destroying our homes and society.

That's why I support banning all Nigerian public officers from obtaining US, UK, Canada, European and Arab countries visa. Let them stay and suffer the destruction they caused.

Abi oh my brother

wirinet:
Not familiar at all. The only African countries I have visited are Togo and Benin. But I read quite a lot about politics and happening in Ghana online. And I have a few customers from Ghana.

I think you need to experience Ghana to discuss this subject properly.
There are some things which have since ceased to be a problem in most African countries, which are still a daily hassle in Nigeria.
Nigeria is a peculiar place which seems determined to beat the life out of its long suffering people.

wirinet:
I don't believe the Ghanian economy is doing better than Nigeria, in the same vain Ghana is not better managed than nigeria. They are pactically in the same category. The difference is in the scale and size. Buy scale and size, i mean population, geographical size and the number of tribes and ethnic groupings.
From the statistics you presented, these three are the most critical factors;
Population: 32,833,000 213,401,000
Inhabitants/km²: 137.6 231.0
Birth rate: 28.04 ‰ 37.47 ‰

The population of nigeria is 8 times that of Ghana, the population density is about two times and the landmass is about three and a half times. To make matters worse, the birth rate is unsustainably high.

Now, one factor that affects Nigerian development and progress more than Ghana is religion. Nigeria's extreme religiosity which started in the late 70s/early 80s has had a destructive impact on the value system and morals of the society. And thus Nigerians are unable to distinguish rights from wrongs. Nigerian religiosity focuses on the self - self prosperity, blessings and interests, instead of pursuing societal progress and development. That's why Nigerian has the highest number of religious buildings in the world but the most criminal minded, wicked and unsympathetic people. There are crimes that only happens in Nigeria - like using women and children for money making rituals.

Those things you mentioned like poor infrastructure, poor security and the systemic collapse are all human problems and not necessarily government. Why, because Nigerians choose to be dishonest in the dealings with others. Those charged with responsibilities are only interested in stealing the money. If you like change the system and the personalities 10 times, the result would be the same.
In a country where Professor Nnenna Oti is celebrated for just doing her job, then you realise little is expected from an average Nigerian.

How familiar are you with Ghana?

chrisxxx:
FG should put in place steady power supply prior to removing subsidy. Don't put the cart before the horse.
If it requires Tinubu selling Nigeria to China to have steady power supply let him do it. Thereafter he could remove subsidy and from the proceed of subsidy removal we can repay whatever loan taken to afford steady power supply.

They ought to have ensured they fix the refineries before removing any subsidy. Why has fixing the refineries become such an impossibility? ? ?

ecolime:
The odds are all against Nigeria in every indices. Despite all these, there is good news folks and it is that Nigeria shall be great again.

This I have seen!

Greetings.
By appointment, I am Attorney to his Holiness, Alhaji Cardinal Dr. Falseprophet1.
Please be warned that the byline "This I have seen" is proprietary to the Alhaji Cardinal.
The Alhaji Cardinal frowns upon plagiarism and illicit use of his proprietary catch phrase.

Cease and desist, or calamituous spiritual consequences will follow, which may include mid-night visitations by the Alhaji Cardinal in company of myself and a coterie of punitive spirits of the over and under worlds, demons with the heads of frogs and witches with the legs of spiders, all by high grace.

Be guided accordingly.

@ naptu2 you are a legend.

xevove2061:
Look at then in the 50s, these men were in their late 20s and very early 30s when they took the helm of affairs of the nation at the time, but a 30 year old man in present day nigeria has not dome anything meaningful with his life yet.

Without making excuses for anyone or any generation, I should mention that there is a deeper historical reason for this - and it rests with the fact that as a new nation just coming into its own, the younger generation formed the majority of the educated class at the time, while much older people were, more often than not, either illiterate or semi-literate.

Needless to say, as time went along and things evened out, that younger generation has grown into an educated and experienced older generation. That's the reason.

Ghostwon82221:
When having a debate with a fool (in this case several fools), you either lower your standards (I don't want to) or you tell the person how foolish the person is.

Hi there. I actually agree with your point of view. Small advice though-

1. Perhaps you should emphasize the soft power of mornachs more. I entirely agree, the LG Chair who wants to confront a first class mornach is simply suicidal. One phone call will end his career.

2. Where you have lived or schooled is neither here nor there, don't let them tempt you into discussing that.

3. Truly, some arguments are not worth it.

[quote author=kpakpakpa post=122791110][/quote]Okay, you can delete. I will SMS you.

kpakpakpa:
I'm using a small phone and can't access my mail on it. Why not say it here my brother? or Should i drop my phone number so that you can reach me(text message only

Ok, pls do so, but (if necessary, for safety reasons) delete afterwards.

kpakpakpa:
Hearing aid is worst, i wore it once and the sound lasted for weeks in my ears. One specialist told me about a type of hearing aid that can produce a certain sound to mask the one in my ears but he mentioned more than a million naira. Is true like i said earlier that this happened in 2015 and honestly, i did not leave it to fate, i tried every way i'm capable and even borrowed some huge amount to treat this but its looking like there will be no solution.

My only option is to stop hearing completely if there is a way because i don't have the financial chest to pursue this problem anylonger.

Please email me

wirinet:
I am impressed by the US judiciary, I can say they are the most important preserver of US democracy. Apart from a few questionable rulings like Judge Aileen Cannon (which was quickly corrected), US were/are largely apolitical. I wish the same can be said for our own judiciary.

Whatever else one can congratulate the US Judiciary for, it can never be for being apolitical.

Nezan:
Is volume not directly proportional to weight? Stop arguing blindly

No it is not!

sketcherJ:
Nigerians and their typical mentality

Abusing the lady that just asked an innocent question.

It’s obvious that boy is not the alpha in his relationship with the dog. He can’t even control it to stop barking.

One day that boy will give birth to kids and the dog will bite em

You have touched on an important point here. Because this matter is down to territorialism, nothing more.

Maynman:
I also doubt your sanity, you monotheist sympathizer.
If not that you are an intelligent fellow, how can you made a claim and refuse to back up your claim, that’s foolish.

You mention(quoted) proverbs.
You said the bible contains wisdom, and we have now seen that the wisdom was plagiarized from another source, are you sure you are mentally alright?

You need chains. Be basking in ignorance.
All the best.

I hope you eventually learn the difference between mentioning a book and quoting it. Thank you. Have a pleasant day.

Maynman:
Then don’t make statements you can’t prove. That’s crass.

I really doubt your sanity sometimes. There you go, jumping into a conversation absent context and background and flinging insults about ("delusional".. "crass" etc). I wonder what makes you imagine anyone is compelled to answer to you.

The proverbs you are quoting

I have not quoted Proverbs.

was plagiarized into the jewish bible,

I have not said it is original to anyone. So again, you are arguing with yourself. This is why I doubt your sanity.

you should be thanking this sage for the wisdom.

If this man was alive he would have sued the masoretes for intellectual theft.

You need help. You'd better go rest.
All the best.

Maynman:
Sir Mention a single true line in the bible if you are sure and not been delusional.
Just ONE

I don't owe you. Nor am I compelled to discuss with you.

The book of proverbs you are quoting, see where they got it from, the intelligent amenemope

I said its a book of wisdom. I didnt say anything about its source or its writer(s). So I don't know why you went to stress yourself proving that it wasnt written by Solomon. I never said it was. I did not even mention Solomon. It could be written by Cupid or my ancestor's babalawo for all I care.

Maynman:
You are mentioning the tanakh.
Proverb is gotten from different sources all after solomon was said to lived.

The book of kings and chronicles contains what history?
State it.
Not to forget that most of the books are written by unknown authors and gotten from different sources.

If something is of genuine history, why won’t historians quote it?
How then did you conclude is it of true history? You’re been apologetic right now.

Mention the single true line in the bible if you are sure and not been delusional.
You need another good clock to know when the broken clock will be right twice in day.
What are the sources outside the bible?
Or you are using a broken clock to know when a broken clock will be right twice a day?

My dear, I don't owe you an explanation. If you believe every single line therein is a falsehood, that's your cup of tea.

Maynman:
Bible means collection of books, that’s many books were added together to make up a single one called bible, so which book in the christian bible or jewish Bible has a great deal of wisdom?

The Books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.

Which history does the bible have?

The Books of Kings and Chronicles detail quite a bit which should not be lightly dismissed.

Do archaeologists or historians quote bible as a source of history?

They don't need to.

Please tell us the truth inside bible.

I cant do that, there is too much to cite (just as there is much falsehood, myth and barbarism to cite).
If your view is that there is not so much as a single true line in the Bible, that's your cup of tea. That's of course, an unrealistic view. Even a broken clock will be right twice a day.

Maynman:
Scripture means writings, you mean jewish scriptures?
If you’ve ever look up on the origin of how “scripture” was written you would have seen that it was written as a fiction.

The Bible is not my creed, and it does indeed contain a lot of myths, fantasies and even outright falsehoods - aside from barbaric injunctions. However it also contains a great deal of wisdom, useful moral counsel and yes, history. If you are one of those people who are "all or nothing" in their perspective, that's your problem sir. The world is seldom all white or all black, it is mostly grey. People are not all good or all bad, they are a mish mash of both. In the same way, something like the bible is a mish mash of all sorts. You seem to have the misguided view that it is 100 per cent fiction and 100 per cent false hood. That is not a nuanced take.