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lorretta u: Ok it's clear their actions are againgst muslim tenets
But What I want to understand is this.
in all the nations where there is islamic presence why is there always bloodshed?

Now I won't lie that I've not met peaceful muslims before.infact I'm friends with one for now
But these things keep happening and what we hear is that they aren't true muslims.

But they are muslims after all aren't they?
Now if there are muslim religious leaders on NL

I have a question for you guys.seeing as religious killings are being carried out in almost all muslim countries by the so called muslim exTremists,what have you guys done to stop this?asides from coming out after the attacks to condemn(when u do)

Have you people set up bodies throughout your religious domains to try and teach your youth tolerance for other religions?

do u make it a point of every religious gathering to preach to your youngsters peace and love for other people?
It starts from the home.now what do you teach your kids? Sometime we preach hate without knowing it.words like 'infidel' used to describe people of other religions only gives the kids an impression that it's ok to despise other people.

Do you teach them that it's ok to make friends(real friends) from other religions? Maybe even marry them?(I know they won't let this one happen)
As long as we keep up with these little segregations, it should come as no surprise when things like these happen.because they are the fruits of the tree of religious segregation.

If what they are doing is truely against muslim teachings,stand up and fight for your religion!

Show it.prove to the world that it isn't what you stand for.

Sagamite: I was about to say "Finally! About time. After years of it being due, we are finally getting there" but then I decided to check something first and I decided not to say it anymore.

All these guys are Western-influence imams. Hardly representative of the main problems and highly ignorable.


Sheikh Abu Eesa Niamatullah - A UK-born and raised Pakistani. Still lives in the UK.

Mufti Ismail Menk - Zimbabwe-born and raised Indian who now lives in South Africa.

Sheikh Yaser Birjas - A Kuwait-born Palestine who has lived in the US since 2000.

Gary Larocque - A white convert to Islam.

Sheikh Yahya Adel Ibrahim - A Canadian-born and raised Egytian who now lives in Australia.

Hardly the people that would make meaningful change. All are raised or based in places where Muslims are a minority.



This is an example of one of the numerous problems I keep on alluding to when I say something is wrong with the Islamic religion.

Illogical and cultic!

Unfortunately, these problems cannot be changed because it is strongly woven in the doctrine and culture. Only conscience, civilisation or just plain domination over others would make some Muslims stop the violence because it is sooooooooo easy to find justification for killing others like chicken in the religion.

It is not the religion of peace!

I dare say VERY FEW PROMINENT Imams in a majority Muslim country can or will condemn these kinds of evil actions because the populace would see it as siding with the enemy: Kaffirs!

"Support you brothers even when they are wrong?" ............Houston, we have a problem!

richP: when you kill 100 xtians . y wont they be interested in you.
joseph kony that stopped attending church when he was 15?

Jenams: my dear, I'm hapi u heard there were muslims in d hall, but did u also hear dat muslims were escorted out of d hall? After answerin some islamic questions, the muslims were allowed to walk out! They walked out damn it! #B.S! Hogwosh! I'm pissed! #Hypocrite!

Badosqi: Who cares abt d comment made by d ghanaian president.... check d world news daily and u wil see aw ur people kill in iran,iraq,pakistan,afganistan(all d middle east), east africa, northern part of nigeria, niger, mali...
why is it dat dere is no peace in areas infected by this people

babeface3: what of the verse that says 'kill and be killed for a**lla'. is there anything like that, perhaps the fanatics are abusing such misleading statement.

Sagamite: Their actions are not against the Islamic tenets.

You will find the justification for their actions in the religion. It is just a matter of which side of it you read and the interpretation you choose.

The Quran tells you in one part to do good on an issue and the same Quran in other parts tell you to do bad on similar issue.

These Imams have chosen the good, the terrorist have chosen the bad.

Who is right when the Quran is unquestionable?

nbright: How are muslims affected?

Nairatalks: Talk is cheap.


It is better that things like these are prevented than apologising for it as if all muslims are responsible.

Steps to prevent such? Empty.

HAH: My sister is true I was there, I saw the victims, I spoke with them, I am heart broken with what I saw.

The simple truth is the easiers way to eliminate a poor Hausa muslim man is to tag him Boko Haram and no one care since he is BH even if he is not..

I swear it was forceful eviction of squatters that went bad by soldiers, and the only way to cover it is to tag them Boko Haram.

Thank God Human right commisison and some activist have taken up the case hope it will not just die, hope the General that ordered the them will be brought to book.

In Nigeria poor man life is like that of an ant.

Pangea: Wow great discussion here. Apparently Al Shabbab (the militant group that is running parts of Somalia and pissing off nearly everyone) claimed responsibility for the attack in retribution for Kenyan state actions inside Somalia in Oct 2011. Other countries have been trying to kick Al Shabbab's ass, for a long time, because Al Shabbab is making it impossible to do anything inside Somalia, and is a big part of the reason why Somalia is so bleeped up. Plenty of people want to invest or whatever, but Somalia is such a cluster Bleep that its totally unsafe unless you're a mercenary or a gangster. Thus, Kenya and some other countries went in to help fight these guys. And Kenya bleeped them up badly along the Kenyan border.

Since then, there have been attacks in Kenya, all the way south to Nairobi, but mostly along the border, where there's a huge refugee community and a big humanitarian crisis ongoing.

Al Shabbab have vowed to move the "battleground" from Somalia into Kenya. Keep in mind Westgate is an upmarket mall popular with lots of expats. It's a very big and vicious attack, which Al Shabbab seem to say is revenge. Moreover, it's symbolic. Symbolic of Kenyan wealth, Kenyan power, and as Al Shabbab see it, Kenyans selling out. The Kenyans will likely have to do something, since apparently they're just playing loops of the horrible footage on the TV there, and their president has vowed revenge. It's already a very touchy situation, but this could lead the whole thing into a new phase. Too soon to tell.

As usual religion is a subtext here, but it isn't the main motivation. There are layers and layers of bullshit, and that's the bottom layer. It's almost always political, and if it's political, it's actually economic. Religion is the lowest level of bullshit, the least likely to actually teach you anything about what's going on, but somehow its the only one people here seem to understand because it fits the simplest possible narrative. The narrative you should be discussing is the wider geopolitical implications, the posturing of the US and China in Africa, the role of states like Kenya in trying to stabilize Somalia, which is a key area in the region but completely bleeped and closed to investment, with everyone eyeing it. China has been spending b-b-b-billions in Africa building roads and infrastructure trying to gain resource dominance and markets and labor and so on, and the US is in there scrapping, but as the US usually does it, it's more economic hitman stuff and behind the scenes investment and so on. Somalia is a key area for everyone but they can't touch it, so they send in mercenaries (Blackwateresque) to help "stabilize it for investment," and yeah, they probably didn't mind that the Kenyans were at work across the border.

That's honestly way more compelling and interesting than this "Muslims bad" nonsense. It's it's own situation, super complex with lots of big players, and a story you never read about.

abdoolhapheez: My brotha..don't misinterprete thins..they can't be fightin for Allah if their actions are displeasin to him.murderin an innocent soul is a crime in Islam.not everyone bearin tha name 'muslim' acts on the teachins of 'islam'.there are lotz ov muslims who don't represent islam,nd they're tha ones who get tha most publicity,so 2knw tha real islam nd what really it means 2 fight for tha cause of Allah,u have 2 seek knwldge.judgin islam based on tha actions of a few muslims is like eatin a rotten fruit nd blamin tha whole tree..

HAH: I saw the innocent men with gun wounds at Asokoro Hospital without any security army or sss being treated.

If this people were real Boko Haram they would have been in chains even on their sick beds but they were left fending for themselves in the hospital, almost everyone knew it was a set up by the owner of the building to evict them but it went bad as they killed some squatters and the only way to get off the hook is to brand them Boko Haram

One day in this country, the rich will also cry.

dareabiola98: Does anyone know a Madrasat that teaches short term arabic...and has a facility for me to stay...in either lagos,Ibadan,or Ogun state.I really need to learn arabic.most of us should and it might be important for many other people...jumah mubaraq

NO LONG TIN: Mrs Goggle, Pls give me a Realiable link to justify ur explanation.

@bolded, this is the kind of attitude I hate.... You're looking for a fight to derail this conversation but I won't give you that satisfaction!

We should focus @topic, is it right or wrong? If GEJ did that after claiming there is no money for ASUU members how would you react?

If you feel the state government acted right, No P. But you should remember it's 'good customer service' if FG decides tomorrow to buy gold-plated-cars for politicians/individuals

saintvc: I wonder why some group of religion fanatics have decided to continue living an achaic way of life. Always drawing people backward.

They do all sexual immorality and support teenage marriage only to frown at beauty pageant


i didnt call any name before some extremist start banning me

luvola: why will the moderators hide my post ? I repeat , i am waiting for the ACN lapdog rat to come and defend this . I finished my NYSC two month ago and could you imagine corpers were asked to signed an undertaking that they will not receive their state allowance at the end of their service due to the fact that ogun state governor is broke and currently operating on deficit budget system but they can afford to buy phone to those going to mecca ? I have to depend on my 19.8k . I am ready to attack and banish any ACN e-warrior here. Angry

laplace19: Nice one by the government.....

...But on a second thought,WERE THEY NOT WITH THEIR PHONES ALREADY?

...OR THEY DON'T HAVE PHONE AT ALL?


...And what's the essence of giving out another phone to each and every one of them if they already have phones?....... Just asking.