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ijawkid: A spiritual being like his Father and like the other angels....

..He was formed,produced by God...and by virtue of that God is his Father and he is Gods son...

YES...

He was a spirit in heaven......

musKeeto: There's a reason why it's called FAITH..

You believe that a virgin can give birth, yet doubt the trinity because IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE?


Amazing..

obadiah777: 1- JESUS IS BOTH A MAN AND A SPIRITUAL BEING AS ARE YOU

2-SON OF GOD IN THAT HE EMBODIES WHAT GOD STANDS FOR COMPLETELY.

3-YES HE EXISTED BEFORE COMING DOWN TO EARTH AS DID YOU

4-JESUS WAS NOT A MAN WHILE IN HEAVEN JUST AS YOU WERE NOT A MAN WHILE IN THE HEAVENLY REALM.

ayenny02: But you used phone to answer one you can defend why can't you use phone to answer the rest.
If I know that it is only you will respond from all the christians in this forum I would have reduce the question to one question. The questions still remain there anybody can still answer anyone that can be able to defend.

From the verses I need explanation how holy spirit could be;
1. Paraclete
2. He" not "It"
3. He shall not speak of himself:
4. He will guide you into all truth
5. Reprove the world of Sin, righteousness, and error:
6. Does the Holy Spirit "speak" or "inspire"
7. That he may abide with you for ever:
8. He shall bring all things into your remembrance
9. He will show you things to come

Disciples has Holy spirit during life of Jesus

"And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him." (Luke 2:25)

"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him (Jesus), and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." (Luke 3:22)

"Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost." (John 20:21-22)

If what you mean is that Jesus was talking to his disciples alone, so the disciples should still be alive by now,

lanrexlan: Mr deSika,
long time o.

According to the Aramaic Bible Society,the word "Paraclete" back then meant the "Praised One". Muhammad's name was "Ahmed".
Both Muhammad and Ahmed in Arabic mean "The Honored One" or the "Praised One".
http://www.aramaic.org/
PARAVLETE.html

ayenny02: Why not interested in other questions or you can't answer itDon't use question to answer my question, just explain how paraclete means holy spirit when holy spirit has already exist before Jesus christ
1 Samuel 19:23 "So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth."

2 Chronicles 15:1 "The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded."

Ezekiel 11:5 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon me, and he told me to say: "This is what the LORD says: That is what you are saying, O house of Israel, but I know what is going through your mind."

Ezekiel 37:1 "The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones."

Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him.

ayenny02: Why not interested in other questions or you can't answer it

Don't use question to answer my question, just explain how paraclete means holy spirit when holy spirit has already exist before Jesus christ

1 Samuel 19:23 "So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even upon him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth."

2 Chronicles 15:1 "The Spirit of God came upon Azariah son of Oded."

Ezekiel 11:5 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon me, and he told me to say: "This is what the LORD says: That is what you are saying, O house of Israel, but I know what is going through your mind."

Ezekiel 37:1 "The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones."

Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him.

Bidam: Stop dodging my queshions and answer me. The JESUS IN HEAVEN..WAS HE HUMAN

frosbel: Why would I avoid your questions ?



Peter used AND to differentiate between GOD and Savior Jesus Christ.

If we move on to v2 in the same chapter it goes :

v2 Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord

Again, a clear differentiation between GOD and Jesus Christ.




A false and fraudulent positioning of the coma , let's try the RSV and KJV.

Titus 2:13
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
13 awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Titus 2:13
King James Version (KJV)
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


You can infer quite accurately that this means great GOD and Saviour Jesus Christ, 2 very distinct individuals , one Father and the other Son.




You forget Hebrews 1:9 , where God calls himself the God of Jesus, how do you explain that , can GOD have a GOD ? Do not forget also , that in the original languages there was no such thing as capitalization.

"You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy." - Hebrews 1:9


How do you explain this verse :

"But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." - 1 Corinthians 11:3





Remember Isaiah is a book of prophecy , talking about future events.

So the first point is, this SON who was prophesied about had not yet been born when this prophecy was made, the prophecy only applied to him when he came into existence.

But he is indeed Lord of Lords, King of Kings and everlasting father of the new age ( new heaven and earth ).

Besides even the judges of Israel were called gods.


"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High" - Psalm 82:6




John explains it better here :

"And this is what God has testified: He has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." - 1 John 5:11

"And this is what God has testified: He has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." - 1 John 5:11

ijawkid: You forgot to quote romans 9:5 and also 1 john 5:7..........

But abeg you 2peter 1:1 clearly diFferentiates God from the appointed saviour Jesus.....

Abi you need eye glass to see am??.....

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DevotedOne: In The Name of The Only GOD, Allah, The Very Merciful, The All Merciful, The Praiseworthy. As salaamu alaykum, The peace be on you, everyone.






Again, I see no dilema concerning the Holy Qur'an since 4:157 states that Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH] was neither killed nor crucified. There is the belief that one Simon, a cyrene (sp?), died in the stead of Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH]. Also, Judas, is said to have died on the cross for his villainy; he it was who had taken on the likeness of Jesus, PBUH.

Someone is tampering with my post, so that is all for now.



Wa salaam. DevotedOne

ayenny02: Based on Quran Jesus didn't crucified and not killed Surah 4, Verses 157 & 158:
“and their saying : we killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, The messenger of Allah - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so; and those who disagree concerning it are full of doubts; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; For surely they killed him not; but Allah took him up unto Himself; and Allah is ever mighty, wise.”it was not Jesus that shout Eli Eli on the cross. We, muslim just using the verses to contradict those christians when they called Jesus as a God. Because their Bible full of lies and contradiction

Niyi53: Assalaam alaikum. Regarding the issue of Jesus christ, there is a community whose stand is different from every other community, either among the Muslims, Christians or Jews. The stand is that Jesus was actually hanged on the cross, but never died on it. Almighty God saved him from the death on the cross and this is what verse 157 of chapter 4, points out. Thereafter he migrated from that land where he was persecuted and went east ward in search of other children of Isreal. He eventually found them and conveyed the words of God to them. He lived up to the ripe age of 120yrs then DIED A NATURAL DEATH and is buried in kashmir. Therefore he is not alive in the skies as the people generally believe. The Holy Quran also categorically points out the natural death of Jesus and the fact that he is no more alive.
For more info u can read the book ''Jesus in India'' from www.alislam.org under the library section.

Mekky2010: Its Umuigbo and NOT Rumuigbo, time to stop/correct all these unnecessary misspellings in PH..

DevotedOne: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Ever Merciful; The Eternal, The Righteous, The Owner Of Sovereignty, The Lord Of Majesty And Bounty, The Self-Sufficient, The Supreme, The Self-Subsisting In Whom All Subsist. The Peace Be Upon You, Everyone

I see no dilema concerning the Holy Qur'an since 4:157 states that Prophet Isa [Jesus, PBUH] was neither killed nor crucified. But, peruse the following treatises for sensible answers:


[url=http://www.teachislam.com/dmdocuments/45/Was%20Jesus%20Sent%20to%20be%20Crucified.pdf] Was Jesus Sent to be Crucified?[/url]


[url=http://www.teachislam.com/dmdocuments/45/Was%20Jesus%20Crucified.pdf] Was Jesus Crucified?[/url]


[url=http://www.teachislam.com/dmdocuments/45/Why%20is%20Jesus%20GOD.pdf] Why is Jesus GOD?[/url]





Wassalaam. DevotedOne

lanrexlan:
why can you nullify all other Jewish prophets after Moses(pbuh) and decided to choose Jesus (pbuh)only? If you choose Jesus(pbuh) because he was Jew and prophet and Moses(pbuh)was also a Jew and a Prophet,then Jesus is similar to moses,where do you put all other Jewish prophets after Moses(pbuh)?John,the Baptist,Joshua,etc(peace be upon them all)? They also fit into the prophecy because they were Jews and also a Prophet like Jesus.