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Ignore my previous comment, it was meant to be a joke, but on reading it again it appears as a bad joke to me. You are obviously worried by your dreams and it was wrong for me to joke about it.
I personally do not believe that dreams mean anything other than the fact that sometime our dreams can be a reflection of our anxieties.

On a serious note, you need special deliverance by a powerful man of god. Flying in your dreams is never a good thing, it is one of the key indicators that you have been 'gifted' with witchcraft.
The fact that you have not matured enough to start using your wings for faster and more sustained flight means that you have not started hunting as such the road back is still open to you.

Martian: Wow!! Your destiny is to be a Superhero. The next thing you have to do is, make a costume with a cape and a mask, then find a tall building, jump off and FLY!!!!!

lol. I just can't stop laughing.

thehomer: I would like God to reveal himself to the world by supplying Nigeria with constant electricity for three months in a row before the end of the year 2012.

Haba!!! You... especially you of all the posters here should know that it is impossible for nigeria to have electricity for three months in a row before the end of the year 2012. We should concetrate our efforts in confessing healing and miracles to reality, declaring breakthroughs and devine favour, forcefully casting and binding evil spirits then recasting and rebinding every foul smelling spirits instead of wasting our time asking for useless and impossible things like constant electricity.

diluminati: who let this e-diot loose?

I tire o! The guy just dey make us theist look bad

Tithe and Shine Miracle Gospel Church International.

josgolf: 'Touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm'.if he was truly called by God,let God be d judge......dont bring everlasting curses upon yourself by castigating an anointed,whether they be right or wrong.....

May God deliver you from your ignorance.

If you be one of the mumus wey don invest in God through this man, just know that your investment is in vain; God will not be doubling your tithe anytime soon. Your best bet is to try to recover uour capital with some hair cut by asking him for a refund.
Hurry or else you will find yourself at the back of the queue

And some mumu go happily give this clown ten percent of their income plus church offerings as change for pastor to take snare his next trophy wife with luxury cars and luxury cruises around the world

E_monkey: What makes it risky?

The answer to your question should be quite obvious to a muslim like you.

If i buy my food in bulk could i also bless the food in bulk? Just wondering

Ki-Katanga:
Study medicine, become a doctor.

Life expectancy Nigeria: 51.4 Years.
Life expectancy UK: 80.4 Years.

Why do you take delight in spoiling the party? You of all people should know that repeating a lie long enough makes it true. So be rest assured that no amount of facts and figures you throw at us will dissuade us from relentlessly pursuing our mandate of speaking health to all nigerians.

Henrick007: praying before eating i tink it is a must because u dnt know wat d enemy hav planned for u, ur food might me poisoned but prayer cant still reduce d power of d poison

Who is this enemy that you guys keep talking about?

I am astonished at how long these men of god have been repeating the same lie of selling false hope to the gullible nigerian masses, uninhibited by conscience or the fear of being caught. Maybe we are indeed a nation of stupid people for expecting a different result from the same old lie.

plaetton: I just learnt that Governor Peter Obi recently completed the first public library in Anambara State since 1966.

Since 1966? Now one can imagine how many churches have been built in Anambara State since 1966.
I guess since the British left, we have been very busy with religion.
Is it any wonder why we are living hell and would do anything, just about anything, to escape to Britain or any other European nation, countries , apparently with more libraries than churches?

Well said! you just nailed the absurdity of our colletive priority with your comment.

Trying not to get killed by boko-haram. Would appreciate any advice you have that would make me less anxious every time i hear the word Allahu akba.

What do you guys hope to achieve with this latest call to prayer? I thought that Papa Oyedepo's curse has started working along with the numerous casting and binding sessions held at various night vigils around the country.

I think that whichever position is taken, Freewill or Determinism will run into difficulty when stretched to absolutes, same thing happens when you compare Nature agains Nuture.
I will illustrate my view with the help of an anology. Consider the split between Freewill and Determinism to be like a game of chess, what the players can do has already been predetermined by the size of the board, number of piece, rules of the game and time allowed to finish the game. But within these constraints a player has a near infinite choice of moves to finish a game. Faced with the same problem two players might chose different moves bounded by the constraints of the game.
I admit that no anology is perfect, but my point is that whatever action we take or decide not to take is predetermined by a complex web of constraints governing our individual existence and withing these constraints are infinite choices to be made.

frosbel: 19 Christians dead for no other reason than their faith in GOD

In whose name were they killed , ALLAH ?

Where is the outcry from the Islamic community ?

Why do we see Muslims go on a rampage when the Koran is desecrated or a cartoon is drawn on Muhammad but never protest the incessant and horrendous loss of live carried out by religious jihadists ?

Is the Koran a more worthy reason to demonstrate and go on a rampage than the lives of men.

Or could it be that some Muslims silently agree with their more volatile brethren who perpetuate these wicked acts ?

It is unislamic to protest the holy killing of infidels by muslim jihadist.

Ptolomeus: The bible says that Jesus died pleading and begging his father not to leave him ...
But that's a minor issue ... of course!

You are not wrong at all, for a being that has existed as a powerful spirit creature for eons of years to find himself in human form albeit a perfect human in the likeness of Adam and faced with death must have been terrifying. What Jesus voluntarily allowed himself to be subjected to was no walk in the park, it was truly a hard sacrifice and that is what made it the greatest expression of his love for mankind.

mkmyers45: Entropy: the ability of the universe to follow a path to lowest energy with maximum complexity. The implication that things start simple and end up more chaotic and disorganised. There are several examples, life being one of the classic ones that superficially seem to contradict this law, but in retrospect obeys it completely. The long and the short of it is simply that not enough time has passed to make something as complicated and complex as a god. The universe may eventually form an intelligence of omnipotent power but we have many billions of years to go to get there.

Entropy implies we started simply ie low information (no where near enough for the hypothetical religious entities eg gods, that so many describe on this forum) when in fact the universe gets more complex and in the process handles more information. Religion implies the reverse of this law and is therefore totally false.

Let's Discuss.

Would this assertion hold true if God exist outside the universe, that is the universe grand and virtually infinite it may appear to us instead of enveloping God is just a tiny subset of Gods manifestation?

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trillville: @muskeeto and @maxymilliano, I have heard ur advice. Have a good day.
Pls Nigerian Christians and Muslims let's come together to ensure that the movie corpus Christi is never shown in Nigeria. May the good lord bless us as we fight this insult on Jesus. Thank you.

you should ask yourself if christ as revealed in the bible would have approved your statement above, inviting unbelievers to be yoked with christians to fight an insult on his behalf even though he never saw fit to lift a finger when he was subjected to an even worse insult and torture, if not then you will need to adjust your view to be more christlike, humble yourself and wait for God to avenge these insults. Remember "vengeance is mine says the lord" so it will be very presumptive on our part to think that we can fight for God.

Even though i find the idea of portraying Jesus as gay disgusting, i don't think it is my place to millitantly organise for the movie not to be shown.
As a christian i understand that this is satans world so i expect nothing less after all it was the same world that rejected, rediculed and finally executed jesus sadwiched between two common criminals as though he was also a thief even though he was blameless. It is this same world that jesus said his kingdom is not of otherwise his servants would have fought for him not to be delivered. it is for this same reason that jesus rebuked peter for trying to fight for him reminding perter that he could have called for two legions of angels had he wanted to.
Our only resposibility as christians is to continue to tell others the truth about the mighty king christ jesus and of his kingdom before the end comes. We can't force people to accept christ if they don't want to, they are only excercising their God given gift of freewill.
The truth is that the intensity these attacks will only increase just before the curtain finally closes over this depraved and bakrupt satans world. But make no mistake, jesus will eventually fight his fight and those not on his side will tremble on that great day. If we fight for him then we are no different from muslims

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Ihedinobi: What did I do to merit amazing thinkers like these guys: truthislight and dorox? Honestly, if there was a way to throw people out of a discussion, I'd probably throw you two out.

Is English that hard? Or is it my use of it that is causing this problem? Dorox burdens me with proof for an argument that I am not making just so that he can avoid having to deal with the difficulties of his position. Truthislight asks me to show how the Holy Spirit is a person from the Scriptures, apparently because I said that He is? But I in fact have not offered any opinions with respect to that. You guys are incredible.

From the beginning of this thread till now, I have not made an argument for any position. I have pointed out categories of opinion or schools of thought that exist about the Trinity of God and asked their subscribers to please clear up some difficulties inherent in their position. Then these schools of thought come and ask me to defend a position that I have not offered. Tell you guys the truth? You have a baseless argument against the Trinity. Your inability to deal with the issues tied up with your positions shows that your positions are not tenable.

If you disagree, deal with those difficulties. If you agree, then ask me again for my position. I will gladly offer it and defend it.

Geez!!!

It appears that you get irritated when asked to show that God is Trinity, or that there is such a person as God The Spirit. Remember i have read my bible and there is no such word as Trinity that is why i think that the burden of proof that God is a Trinity rests on you and not me. So stop acting like a narcissist in expecting one standard for yourself and a different one for others and answer the difficulties in your assertion that God must be a trinity starting with the fact that the bible never called holy spirit God, that Jesus said that the father is greater than him, everything jesus knew he learnt from his father and he is always portrayed as being submissive to his father.
Until you attempt to seriously and respectfully answer these question i won't be having any further discussion with you.

Many people in the bible have been called God and yes i deliberately capitalized the G because there was no distinction in the Hebrew text used at that time to differenciate God from god. It is only the four letter hebrew alphabet YHWH that was exclusive to the almighty God.

Ihedinobi: Mr Anony, thanks for the thumbs up, bro. It's also why I left you to answer his postulations about loving in a vacuum. Love your answer there

I'll be unavailable for a bit, you guys. I'll be back a little late in the day. For now sha, dorox, it'd be real nice if you could just take the difficulties in your answer and address them one by one. A general statement covering all the questions is tedious to address. But, if it's asking too much, I'll address your answer as it is when I come back. . .unless Mr Anony decides to do it for me. And his answers will be mine as well, believe me.

Later, guys

There is no difficulties in my answer if anything it is your position that is difficult and tedious to defend.
It is you that the burden of proof rest on to show that the bible supports such a pagan
concept as the trinity,after all going by your standard of arguement it was never mentioned in the bible.
Adam was perfect in the sense that he was more than able to follow God's instruction to the letter. And for as long as he did that, God would have continued to sustain his life. If he was not perfectly capable of remaining steadfast to Gods commandment, the the punishment of death would have been unjust. Or are you saying that it was God's fault that adam sinned? That would be the logical conclusion if adam was not perfect.
Read my previous post again to get a better understanding of my take on what perfection means

It is true that there is that type of love which requires an object to bestow it upon, this i think is too narrow and specific. I have explained how one can have love and out of the ambudance of that love be move to have children.
The bible has called lesser beings than jesus God and not in a negetive way. Psalm 82:6 refered to judges as Gods and Jesus also quoted the above scripture in John 10:34 to show that if the sciptures can call men appointed as judges Gods how much more him
God's annointed. Moses was also said to be like God unto Aaron in Exodus4:16
Adam And Eve after eating the fruit were said to have become like God able decern what is good and what is bad independent of a higher authority. Satan is the God of this world however like adam his Godship is independent of Yaweh.
Even though Jesus is called a mighty God, he does not do anything on his own accord but with the will if his father and while he deserves to be honored exclusive devotion belongs to God Almighty.

Mr_Anony: Excellent, but you are neglecting something here. The only way you can love your kids before they are born is because you have experienced love (or hate) before.
When it concerns God, God in this case doesn't have the luxury of prior experience before creation.

God did not have and does not need prior experience for anything he has done, that's what makes him the almighty God. Jesus the mighty God though very powerful still says that all that he knows he learnt from the father.

Mr_Anony: How can love bubble within in a vaccum without an object upon which it be bestowed.

Listen to this conversation tell me if it makes sense.

Dorox: I am in love!
Anony: Who are you in love with
Dorox: Nothing at all

if you kids that was not forced on you due to circumstance but was planned for then you might begin to understand how you can have love even before having your child.
It follows that if you hate yourself having a child would probably the last thing on your mind and ending your life will be high up.

Mr_Anony: Just wanted to highlight something in your post. Do you mean that Jesus was formerly mortal then became immortal at some point? Please clarify what you mean by "...now that He is immortal"

My understanding is that before jesus died on earth he had an everlasting life which is quite different from an immortal life. Jesus could die and that is why he was able to present himself as a sacrifice, had he chosen not to die, he could have avoided being killed. Now that he cannot be killed again is what immortality
means.
You said it yourself that he died for us and to do that one must be mortal.

Your assertion that love must have an object is not true instead love must first bubble up from within for that being to want to share that magnificent life with others. in other words Gods love moved him to to share that life and it began with his only begotten son.

@Ihedinobi, this is an iteresting post that you started with lots of potentials in understanding the nature of God, but your whiny narcissistic attitude is annoying to say the least. you don't have the sole right to asking questions. Just as you expect others to answer your question so should you do likewise in return.
Adam was perfect just like Satan before he sinned. to be perfect means that one is more than capable to live a sin free life(doing what is good all of the time) without removing the choice to do what is bad. There is no inner attraction towards evil unlike an imperfect man that is always in contention with his desires as. described in Romans 7:21-25 Please read
Gods world is built on truth any lie or sin will result in death, that is why adam died and that will also be the ultimate end of satan and his demons as well as the decendants of all adams offspring but for the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus.
If God should lie he will die, but since God is immortal and cannot die it makes impossible for him to lie. The same applies to his son now that he is immortal. When he was on earth he could have chosen to lie or sin that was why rhe devil tempted him because he had the same nature as Adam when he was on earth.