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sassysure:
I know Russia has oil and deliberately omitted it.
Nigeria has oil too.

Any country that depend on include oil sale is never a serious one e.g. your country and said I though recently said I want to foolishly shift to tourism and hospitality.
Remove oil, Russia depends heavily on arms and armunitions. The guns boko boys use to fight in Nigeria, some, some third world country military armoured and arms etc, to Arab, Asia all depends on Russia.

That is the war that is the cause of the seen war between them and some countries.
And in which put and his cronies are the majority shaeholders or outright owners.
This is the angle with which I made my submission.

You made so many valid points, not only Russia though, America to some extent also depend on that, they make a lot of money from arms sale, they rake in billions from that industry yearly and their weapons are madly expensive.

War is money.

Staro:
... It is obvious Nigeria isn't testing enough but who told you fatalities are not high up already ? Madam, people are dying silently.
We lost a neighbor two days ago (cancer, not COVID) but his family could not find a mortuary space in Lagos.
Currently, almost all mortuaries in Lagos are filled up. Where is the sudden rise in dead rate from if not as
a result of complications from COVID ?
.

They couldn't find mortuary doesn't mean all mortuaries are filled up, how many people in your street have died within these few weeks? how many have died in your community?

You can't hide dead bodies, if there's rise in death rate in Nigeria, everyone would have noticed, you can't hide it, people don't eat dead bodies!

You made some valid points, just correcting you on this.

Anozie Maduabuchi, you are the man, may the good lord bless you for speaking up.

Bring our brothers home!

Ishilove:
This is deep-



It is still no excuse for the dogs among men to break their marriage vows by dipping their wayward preeks into every hole that drips moisture. And for you single ladies, stay away from people's husbands. Don't be unfortunate.

It is sad that we are living in a patriarchal society where the odds are deliberately stacked against women. What is sauce for the goose is poison for the gander. Where I come from, a cheating man can commit adultery and get away with it, but a cheating woman will endanger the lives of her husband and children if she commits same adultery and does not confess. The husband and kids may fall sick and die, or his business may suffer severe set backs if he keeps making love to her and eating her food in her unconfessed state of adultery. I don't know if it is programmed on the day of the traditional wedding or of it is an ancestral covenant with unknown deities.

Whatever it is, it just makes me mad! It is so unfair. There should be equal punishment for adulterers

it's programmed on the day of your traditional marriage, most parents do omit that these days, since we both have similar culture, during the bride price, some rites are being performed, like killing of goat, the blood used as an oath bounding the lady & man and invoking the spirit of the ancestors, in some places, they tie both together with ropes while performimg some prayers.

Patriachy society we live in.

atheistandproud:
The Bini kingdom had some massive exoduses that led to the formation of some new ethnic groups like the Urhobos, Isoko and if you believe some textbooks the Ukwuani etc. due to some internal unrest.

My thoughts exactly, but looking at this again, at the time the Urhobos/Isokos migrated from Bini, Bini still had influence over large territories and a reasonable population (excluded Urhobo and Isoko).

Something went wrong, the dots aren't connecting.

darfay:
Oyo empire had non Yorubas in it too like barubas and they didn't impose their language.
Benin should have a history of close to a thousand years,there about. At least the Portuguese had contact with them in the 1400's and their history goes beyond that.
They recognized that Benin was among one of the foremost settlements then, that means aside it's influence, it most have had one of the largest population among the tribes (like mein, ikales, ekitis not ethnicities like Yoruba, Igbo et Al) of southern Nigeria as then at least populated enough to warrant being the major trading partner.
I personally (entirely my opinion) think that they may be other reasons for the low population
(1) historically low birth rate among the binis in comparison to other neighboring tribes like Igbo (whose population is waay too much for their land mass, which would have suggested a period of rapid population explosion along their history (my opinion)
(2) Some kind of unrecorded plagues might have reduced their population or suffered some unrecorded devastating wars, natural disasters etc
(3) maybe they experienced language shift a faster rate (breakup of the common edoid language into smaller groups which became ethnicities or language shit as results of massive emigration to non edoid speaking countries like Igbo, Yoruba et Al)

(4)Or language shift due to inferiority complex of their language as being inferior like urhobo people. Warri for instance is surrounded by urhobo speaking towns and yet warri has not bin urhobonized, same with itsekiri in sapele and oghara (someone told me it's now an itsekiri town sef) and history gave them a second chance with current status of Benin City, it would have been a perfect avenue to spread their language, don't even talk about it being Cosmopolitan, there is no way a Yoruba and hausas town would be cosmopolitan that either languages won't be dominant

My points might be a wild guess but there is something fishy about their population for a people with a history of 800 - 1,000 yrs

(3) maybe they experienced language shift a faster rate (breakup of the common edoid language into smaller groups which became ethnicities or language shit as results of massive emigration to non edoid speaking countries like Igbo, Yoruba et Al)


Oniovo, this gives a perfect explanation.

* Low birth rates isn't one of it, nothing to support such claim.

* I don't think there was any plague in the old Bini empire, if something like that happened, it'd had been told as an oral history, maybe there was a breakup or some sort of division, weakening the population and strength of the people and the new group claiming new identity.

We just have to acknowledge the fact that something went wrong, just can't figure it out.

darfay:
I am more interested in how bini/ Edo speaking people existed and were an organized society in the 1400's but a minority ethnic group today. An investigation should be carried out on that. No history of plagues etc. I actually meant to quote you in the ogane thread

Cc gregboy

The Bini never imposed their culture or language on conquered territory, if they did, Delta, Ondo and some part of Lagos would been Bini speaking today, meaning they'd be a major ethnic group.

What happened then was the Bini empire was relaxed, despite having administrative heads on several territory, they never cared about imposing their language on the people they govern, how the hell did a group like Itsekiri retain their core Yoruboid dialect despite being ruled by a Bini prince and being surrounded by Edoid groups?

But they couldn't perform same magic when they met some rag tag militias in Lebanon? I admire the Israelis, their scientific achievements and progress, but this ass licking and worship gat to stop.

... and the Arabs are bunch of weak lads, presently some Arab countries are still battling to defeat some goat herders in Yemen despite having sophisticated weapons and western supports.

senatordave1:
Am not surprised you will say this

Bro, we play politics with everything in Nigeria, Lagos is the epicenter of the virus, so it's normal for her to receive more funding, even in US, it's still the same story.

Mystiquefia:
Oniovo, na true say them waste like 10 bioz for ogbuagwe? I never see am for any credible news site oh.. not even tv.

Na lie, the video when circulate na video from another country, but area para, normal small riot plus them carry beat one corofo almost faint.

Aside the guy the soldier fall, no head don roll again.

Erediauwa:
Dear Efewestern, atheistandpro.ud, Sanche.z01, Bishop.kay and some peace loving Deltans in this forum,


Kindly avoid any confrontation with Burantai's donkey's.


Safety first.


Stay Safe.

They won't flex muscles when they meet Boko Haram, it's armless citizens they love forming hard men.

I'm indoors anyway, no be me them go use count scores.

darfay:
What language is more widely spoken?

Urhobo, they reason some are going the Ijaw way is probably because of politics, you know how minority can feel inferior when surrounded by a major group.

if they were in Delta, he'd not say this.

darfay:
There are 6 isoko villages in bayelsa and 1 urhobo village. At least we outnumber you people in somewhere

Lol.. agreed, you outnumbered us in Bayelsa, but politically speaking, we still the boss

Nowenuse:
Are you saying that Fear of the future is stronger than the oppression of now? Have u heard of the saying that goes, "We will cross the bridge when we get to it?"

Do you believe that being oppressed by a retrogressive bunch of illiterates who has given you an identity of terrorism is better than being oppressed by an educated and progressive people?

Only cowards prefer their present condition of servitude because they are so much afraid of their future, forgetting that the future is in your hands and it becomes what u make of it.

I grew up in URHOBO land and to a large extent I am ashamed of what the region is. It's not as if I am ashamed of the region because it is worse than others, rather I am ashamed that the region is still where it is today considering the abundance of mineral resources and wealth you guys have.

As much as we middlebelt people are suffering injustice in Nigeria, Nigeria is still benefiting us to an extent. However it doesn't mean that we may not progress without Nigeria.

Look at Abuja and see the huge wealth in there. Same with Lagos. These 2 cities are a huge product and reflection of the wealth coming from your region.
If Nigeria divides today, none of these 2 cities with all the development in there are going with your people.
Warri is becoming a shadow of itself day by day.

Do you guys ever think that one day when oil becomes irrelevant, that your children and grandchildren will ask you what you people made of the immense oil wealth from your region when this oil was hotcake? What answers are you going to give them, when same children look at places like Dubai and see what they made out of theirs?

Chief I share in your sentiments, but our destiny isn't tied to any ethnic group, everyone should run their race, stop speaking like you know what's best for everyone, the feeling of superiority or no minority can achieve anything without me is getting stale, fight your middle belt battle and leave us to ours, your constant denial of our worries speaks a lot about your person.

@bolded, why must someone be oppressed? weather by illiterates or educated people, oppression isn't what any race or ethnicity should pray for, Tired of the back and forth argument, it's meaningless and it won't change anything.

Like I have said, focus your attention on your middle belt struggle, and stop assuming you know what's best for everyone, you have no single idea, you are probably suffering from inferiority complex and religious supremacy.

Mariangeles:
Now, I understand where the frustration is coming from.
Your mum aside, have a serious discussion with your sisters.
Give them a time frame when you want to start your own family, within which they can get any support they need from you to be established enough to stand on their own.
You can't keep giving them fish forever, they have to learn how to fish on their own.
You're not always going to be there, therefore, they should sit up and be serious.
As for your mum, a simple business of selling soft drinks and cheap wines, including collecting and supplying sachet water in bags will do. She doesn't need too much stress at this point.

OP should tell us if his family are in Rural or Urban areas, if his sisters are in Urban areas, he should make them acquire some skills since they are bad at trading, tailoring, hair dressing etc are good for ladies, he said one is living with q man, the man can help with some funds too.

if they are in rural areas, he should make them go into large scale farming, though stressful, they won't lack anything to eat.

cc: Naanlong01

Ellipsoid:
Nope, once a man is married, the wife comes first.

Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Is OP married? the guy you quoted said FAMILY comes first before GIRLFRIEND and you had to ship in your favorite Bible verse.

ochuski:
I'll have to ask my dad about the other communities when i get to speak to him.
My people are more proud of their Ijaw roots than their urhobo origin. For a certainty, it has helped them politically and otherwise. Infact, most people now give their children Ijaw names. In my house, i and my dad are the only ones with Urhobo names because we are part of the old generation. All my younger brothers bear ijaw names and this applies to most families.
Urhobo is considered as just a lingual franca in the community because even the traditional ruler bears Amanaowie which is Ijaw.
You cant blame us any less for this decisions as Ofoni is a true ijaw community by virtue of the fact that they are sons of TARAKIRI. Other villages who are sons of Tarakiri also know this and accepts Ofoni as their own.
Presently the incumbent deputy governor of Bayelsa state is a son of Tarakiri from Ofoni.
Egberi Fa o

Revealing, I know Ofoni is paternally Ijaw and Maternally Urhobo, but the constant denial by some Ijaw groups about where Ofoni belongs shows they do not consider you Ijaw, they just do so because of politics.

The incumbent deputy governor was rejected by IYC, they never saw him as an Ijaw man, he had to denial his Urhobo root severally during his campaign.

I understand where you're coming from, sticking to your Urhobo identity will do you no good but rather make your community marginalized.

Naanlong01:
Thank you and God bless you. Its not easy being in my position. I now perfectly understand why my uncle, the only male child of my mum's siblings went far away from home without looking back after he got married over ten years ago. The funniest thing is that, all his family including my mum beleives his wife turned his back against his family which is wrong.

A lady is advising you to ignore your family and you are smiling, this same lady will do anything to uplift her own family, use your head, you are where you are today for a reason, in life, never, I repeat, never joke with your bloods, they are all you got.

Now my advise for you is to balance things, you are 29, still very young, look for ways to help your sisters stand their ground, you can fund a little biz for them, life is all about sacrifices, not every time we do things that pleases us, sometimes we just have to discomfort ourselves to make sure our loved ones are okay.

Think!

ochuski:
Yes i am... buh its been a long time av been there.

Aside Ofoni, what other Urhobo/Isoko towns do we have in your LGA? what do you think about the perception of your people towards the Urhobo nation, are they proud of their Urhobo root?

ochuski:
Ofoni in Bayelsa state.
Its only accessible by water as at then. For us to get to a motorable road, we had to cross the river and goto Odorubu through which we can access Oghoro(pardon my spelling) junction.
It was somewhere in 2017 that the Bayelsa state govt constructed a road from Sagbama through the town.

Are you from Ofoni? being planning to explore the village, can I ask some few questions?

OruExpress:
Agbor is Igbo. I know nigeria is a soup of historical ignorance (we are jews, we are egyptians, the bible is historical fact, the koran is historical fact, mungo park discovered by grandfather, there is a south and a south south etc, there is a tribe called 'rivers' etc)... Agbor is Igbo, as is Ukwuani.

Okpara is the eldest son of a family. This can be the nuclear family, or the kindred, both 'eldest sons' have the same title. The Okpara represents the kindred in congress, court and responsible for praying for the family every morning and taking care of the families spiritual properties like shrines etc.

Oga, where did you see Agbor? what's the relationship between Agbon clan and Jews?

Bloggingscope:
Efewestern Reply DM now

replied sir.

Bloggingscope:
Sorry Man
I sent a reply to the client already
Let's see if I can edit it
Csn you speak urhobo? You good witg upwork?

yes, update me when the client responds.

Bloggingscope:
Ok
Any Urhobo guy here?

Sent you a mail.

Erediauwa:
Surprisingly, nah starch be my kitchen prefect.... Eba nor dey get smooth sailing for my throat.

Thank heavens say I quickly stock my kitchen with starch and Banga soup spices.

Starch too they waste time to prepare, na occasional food. Eba is the real deal bro.

Erediauwa:
And body dey do me to branch Emu bakery yesterday....


So nah 1sky dem don shift the price go?


Nah Kpokpo-Madiga and cornbeef sure pass.

I no be bread fan, na the Garri price they do me one kind.. abi u no they see as I they wail for the thread.. my darling eba. weee wee not take eeet.

nowadays kpokpo-madiga too they strong, shuo, eat am you and toilet go they fight.. I run leave am for una.

Erediauwa:
Dear Efewestern,

Abeg help me see this omokrì.

lol.. the guy the feel the heat na make am they wail like me.. forgive us chairmo.

Erediauwa:
Good, make I go collect my change for one mallam hand before he talk nonsense.


Bought a bag of sachet water N150 from him at Jeddo.

A bag of pure was has been so since last week, na pure water first increase, just try buy from them directly, 5H for 6bags. That H bread na 1sky now.

Erediauwa:
Not justifiable, CORRECT.... Lemme ask you Oniovò, is the action of the youths JUSTIFIABLE?

No, their actions were stupid, they should have forced her to sell the garri for atleast 1k instead of throwing everything away, at the end, everyone lost. But this will serve as a deterrence to others in the area who intend hiking price of goods and I sincerely hope the governor do something about this.

Erediauwa:
Oniovò, I am against that violent conduct.... Just because you're pleased with the hike of meat pie at ShopRite, does that give you the right to destroy the show glass? Area too dey over do...

Shoprite won't hike price by over 100%, at most 20%. This is pure greed, people are suffering, I overheard a lady lamenting that she couldn't buy anything yesterday, later heard military men came around to monitor the price of goods.

Most of the market women didn't buy new stock, they just hiked price just like that, not justifiable boss.

Erediauwa:
This is wrong and the same time stupid...

If you're not pleased with her price, you move to the next shop, and if the price is still the same, you settle for another commodity you can afford.

If she decides to lay a curse on them now, it will follow them to their fourth generation.


Itsekiri youths are not known for this gross stupidity, and for those two dumb sex workers laughing, one day, it would reach their turn.

Bro, these women are going extreme with the hike, just last week I bought a basket of garri for #700 at Effurun, some days after it was sold for 2k, that's evil Manh, we should stop this issue of elderly respect when the elders are killing us with their own greed.

As much as this is condemnable, many people will go hungry because of the selfishness of a very few. 80% of us earn our income daily, we aren't rich, if you hike price, how do you think we going to survive?

Nowenuse:
What Efewestern is saying is very clear and understandable. Igbos & SS minorities put together in one country will be like 65% Igbo.

But if SS minorities are one country, no single ethnic group will be up to 35% of the country, not even if all Ijaw clans combine or all the Ibibio-Efik-Anang people combine. It will be a sort of balance.

But to be sincere, 2 major ethnic groups may end up forming a sort of coalition in order to dominate the rest. Just like what exists in Kenya today.
Just that it will not be as bad a 1 ethnic group dominating the country.

However I think Southern minorities are just too scared. What stops them from making negotiations with Igbos to arrange for a country of loosed Confederacy (something like the UK) where everyone controls his own republic within the country and has every right to pull out whenever they like? Do they prefer the status quo in Nigeria where their oil wealth is being monopolized by Hausa fulanis & Yorubas to an extent?
Southern minorities have an extreme case of 'Minority paranoia syndrome'.

Such fear is very much justifiable, judging from the fact that these same minorities in the past, had shared same region with either of these major ethnic groups, their experience... HMmMMMM.

Everyone should run their race jor.

hammer0:
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Forget this your big group obsession.

Where u have any group, one will always be larger than the other.


Your parents did not give birth to all of you the same day.


Even whilst you are calling Fulani names.


Note, Tiv and Jukun fight just as much as you do in Delta State.


They dont even share state but boundaries.


One lives in Taraba and the other in Benue.


Size has nothing to do with domination, strenght does.


A tiny island Britaimn ruled more than half the world.

My issue with some of you is that you easily dismiss the worries of others, a minority can never disregard the fear of a bigger group, we owe it to our children to fight for their interests.

You speak this way probably because you come from a major group.