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jumper524:
how this one take be news??

When E fall reach ground yakata.................

everybody in that room is instantly retired immediately the new IGP signs.................

So what will happen to all 7 DIG who senior the AIG?

Hmmmm........

So Peter okoye don turn ikorodu boy....

festacman:
My SUBJECTIVE take on the ongoing trial of CJN Walter Onoghen is captured by the following assumptions, scenarios, conspiracy theory, deductions and implication.

1. Some highly placed politicians in Nigeria are experts in using blackmail to have their ways. Recently, the former Finance minister Mrs. Kemi Adeosun' NYSC certificate "mistake" was used as a blackmail tool by key NASS members into making her to agree to anything they put on the table.

2. By their nature people like Atiku, Saraki & co "buy" relevant and strategic decision makers as 'franchises' and manipulate them to do their biddings in subtle ways. At the height of his problem with Obasanjo, former VP Atiku boasted that he had control of Governors' Forum, NASS leadership, and the judiciary and could easily remove former president Obasanjo if he so desired. To which Obasanjo quipped that unfortunately for Atiku, he had no control over God.

3. So this "mistake" by CJN Onnoghen constitutes a potential weapon of blackmail and manipulation to control the CJN in post elections matters. I am suspecting that this "mistake" might have been used by Senator Saraki to stunningly wriggle out of his false asset declaration case.

4. As stage is set for 2019 elections, APC strategists may have been scared that Atiku, Saraki, Wike & co may use this 'mistake' to blackmail and manipulate the CJN into doing their biddings. Moreover, there is no guarantee that the immediate Justice following CJN by seniority cannot be engineered by PDP heavyweights to raise a damning petition against the CJN thereby forcing the president to appoint their man as CJN.

5. So the FGN decided to nip it in the bud before election by hurriedly arranging this trial.

6. In spite of all the drama, I suspect that this strategic move is all a well-scripted ploy that will legally remove both legal and moral burdens from CJN and give him freedom to do his job. In other words, CJN Onoghen may come out of this case looking "smelling roses".

On The Flip Side
However if this trial is not a script, it will surely have a far reaching consequences as it will instill feverish apprehension in Nigerian politicians who all have skeletons in their cupboards. The issue is, "if a whole CJN cannot be spared before elections, what will happen to mere politicians after elections and swearing in". Consequently, to save their heads, these politicians will secretly but strongly collaborate across partieslines to stop president Buhari from getting 2nd term.

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As I said in the beginning, it is a purely subjective view, which eventually may turn out as the opposite of the eventual outcomes. But hey! I love brainstorming.

This view is so awkward, for one the Judge didn't falsify his asset declaration. What was said was that some asset were not captured in his declaration.

Why it is painted as fraud is because it is alleged that he has a Domiciliary account with foreign exchange in it and as such, he broke the law by operating a foreign account.

Unfortunately in their foolishness they forgot that the law has no issues with judges operating Domiciliary account, because their annual estacodes for foreign trips is paid in dollars (if you don't know, know now).

What the laws says for them is not to operate accounts in foreign banks.......
There is a big difference between operating a Domiciliary account in first bank and operating an account in a bank in the US.

All judges at the Supreme court get Domiciliary accounts, for estacodes, that one na normal.

They simply took advantages of the fact that most of them just resubmit their already existing asset declaration, highest they change dates and send.

A simple letter to the CJN asking him to update his asset declaration attaching the alleged petition is enough, but because they want him out, because FG has not signed the electoral act, all post election issues will be handled by tribunal under the charge of the CJN.

The judgements of the CCT is a suggestion as far as saraki goes, if 2/3 majority of the house doesn't send him off, the charges are CCT were ill-prepared datzall.....

Justice Tanko is the most senior judge after Onnoghen, he is from bauchi and is their person. Onnoghen is the first Southern CJN since 1987, he is not the kind of person that will accept shenanigans from APC, so leave all this theories.

Danladi is a stooge of the FG, hiding under his own jurisdiction, SSG of the FG, else by now his career for be like justice abang own, whey dey give judgement based on whether E nairabet ticket cur, yes or no

adanny01:
You made sense with the bolded which i agree with you but would rather disregard all you wrote thereafter.

In my opinion, the constitution is the problem and we have been exposing all the loopholes in the constitution without plugging them. Since you are conversant with the law, i wish to ask you, can the CCT try a serving president?

Am sure your answer is no, why, He (VP and governors inclusive) enjoy immunity by the constitution.

Meanwhile, the NJC law says NJC has powers to:
(g) appoint, dismiss and exercise disciplinary control over members and staff of the Council;

Am not a lawyer but the law has a flaw of not specifically limiting this law to the issues of their duties as justices.

One person made an observation that if the CJN or any other member of the council shoots and kill anyone in front of witness. Is it the NJC that will exercise diciplinary control over that member even before the police file criminal charges?

As far as am concerned, the CCB has power over all public officers and even the president. No law (even the immunity the president ) overcomes that of the CCB.

False........This is the opinion the APC led government shares when they want to interpret the law to suit their political inactions.

First of all, the CCT can't try the President and can't even try the CJN.

The reason is clear, whatever comes out of this trial is a mere suggestion, one injunction from a high court will set aside the entire judgement like pampers whey baby shiit put, that is why Falana rightly judged it as a misadventure.

It's like the nonsense Justice Abang did, when he nullified Ikpeazu's mandate as governor of abia state, on the stupid basis that he forged tax clearance. No recourse to Abia inland revenue service or abia state government who was his employer, you just sat down in your court and entertained a suit from an ordinary citizen on a criminal case and decided that it is fake, is it not the job of the state to prosecute such cases? Is it the job of a civil servant to prepare tax clearance or the employer - in this case a government agency - that pays the tax and collect clearance of behalf of the employee?

By time the appeal court received that case eh, they tore the judgement apart, small thing they would have accused Justice Abang of collecting bribe. Judgement that a 100level law student cannot even recommend, a whole high court judge through interpretation stood the law and justice on its head. Shameful

The only challenge is that the move to justice is a slow marathon and not a sprint, hence APC led FG have the effontry to bring it, knowing that even if the real trial fails, the media trial may succeed and cast a shadow on Justice Onnoghen, by the time the case is closed, some other national issues will distract Nigerians from this charade.

Justice Danladi doesn't have jurisdiction and will be stupid to release any judgement whatsoever, he will simply adjourn judgement delivery and dismiss the case like he did Saraki's case.

He will just play around with it and throw it out much later.

You dey here abang name anywhere? When you start delivering judgements coloured with bias, you will find yourself gradually losing a grip on your career as a judge.

That's the truth. Except you are dealing with a person who is just anti-establishment in political ideology or posture, no soud lawyer or jurist will applaud this nonsense.

And I say it again, CCT cannot try CJN neither can it try any executive. Only 2/3 vote in parliament of competent jurisdiction can take out an executive. If CCT releases a judgement, the best it can do is to communicate it to state of federal parliament.

They will debate its merit and then impeach the executive, only then can the judgement apply, if not, the judgement is not worth the paper it is written on.

CJN is way out of CCT's league, watch, observe and learn

CilicMarin:
If he doesn't show up, the FG will officially notify the NJC, and cite lack of confidence in him as the Chief Justice Of Nigeria....while instituting another suit compelling him to step aside, as he cannot be a Judge in his own case...

While the above is going, The pressure would mount for him to step down....

PDP showed their hands too early....So as it is now the ruling party, FG, and the masses no longer trust Onnoghen as the CJN...

Advice: He should quietly step aside before he ruined the remaining grain of honor in him.

Bros, the CCT doesn't even have jurisdiction in the absence of any recommendation from the NJC.

Danladi is not that stupid, the constitution is clear on how to dispose of CJN's, all this media trial is just bladderdash that has exposed the incapacity on the part of government to follow the rule of law.....

mercenary:
Yes!!!

Very stupid set of people... How do you try a CJ? Because he's not from the North? Mad people.

He is tried through NJC by law.....

adanny01:
And who is going to preside over the votes?

First and foremost, being the accused, he is morally not supposed to vote. Secondly, he cannot preside over voting over his own case. If it were another member of the NJC, that member will be excused from that meeting that will decide his case. Can the chairman in this case be excused? No. It is the chairman that should morally excuse himself in the interest of the institution.

Bros When the chairman of the NJC in the person of the CJN is under review he is by proper conduct not to participate in judicial review nor vote over his review, vice chairman takes over.

He will simply absent himself from such sitting and not resign all together. That is the standard.

Nevertheless, that is not an excuse to accuse and arraign the head of the third arm of the Nigerian government, the judiciary in less than 72hrs.

For crying loud, when was he accused, investigated and arraigned for prosecution? The only Chief Justice of the Nigeria Supreme court that the south has produced since 1987, is treated like a motor park tout.

For your information, police is under the Judiciary as an arm of government. The law says he must be exonerated or dismissed based on review/recommendations made by NJC, why will any government start doing all this rubbish.

And they chose to use Justice Danladi, who went to the former Comptroller general of customs to demand #100million Naira bribe under Jonathan administration to try him.

Danladi used restraining order to push away EFCC till date. It was when they wanted to get saraki in CCT, that EFCC came all of a sudden and claimed that Danladi has been cleared of all charges when the former CG of customs presented proof to the same EFCC of his demand for bribe and is still insisting that Danladi came to ask for 100million Naira bribe or he will have him charged to his court.

It was when they charged Former customs boss to his court, that CG went to a highe court to get an order to assign another judge since he cannot be sitting in a court, receiving judgement from a justice who has a penchant for blackmailing public office holders......

gaskiyamagana:
MAY JOY OF YOUR LIFE BE DESTROYED SLOWLY AND HAPPILY FOR 16 YEARS AS PDP DID TO NIGERIA AND NIGERIANS.

My brother if the destruction is the kind that ensure the pump price of petrol is less than #100, bag of brown beans in benin is #12k compared to #42k that it is now, bag of rice is #6k compared to #16k (whey people even dey talk say E don come down to #16k. Chai! 16k na down abi na up? ), dollar is #205 black market compared to #365 now black market, Motor from Mile 2 park to benin is #1,850 compared to #2,950, phone in callers on TV shows/stations can criticise Mr President without the station attracting #500,000 to #10,000,000 fine from bastard NBC under totori from lai mohammed the information minister.

Where we don't have to be afraid that Mr President is a tribalistic fellow and not just President of the 95% who voted him in, where people are not afraid to leave jos town or maiduguri town after 6.30pm, Chai!

Where armed forces personnel who died protecting their country from ISIS/ISWAP are not denied by their government. They will send you to fight ISWAP, when you pass on in active combat, today's government will tell your family that it was Okada accident that killed you and refuse to Honour your sacrifice with a ceremonial burial party or military aguilette and will give your family 48hrs to vacate the barracks.

A government thatwill not signs laws increasing the number of years non-NDA graduates will be promoted but refuse to pay the amount they ought to receive and the military can't protest like civil servants.

That will not blackmail judges and arrest arbitrarily and trigger media trials knowing the code of conduct for senior judicial officials does not permit them to speak freely to the press without running to NJC for permission which they rarely give .......My brother may that kind of destruction follow me, my life and my destiny.

But if you are among the people that claim that 3years of Buhari is far a better blessing than the last few years under PDP (be it Obasanjo, Yar adua or Jonathan), then may the good Lord Run your life and destiny the way Buhari has run this country in the last 3 and the half years......

gbeseun:
I think old age is affecting this man.
Who is The chairman of NJC?

So the CJN will now judge his case himself abi.

Radarada

Stop talking brashly.

The CJN is just one member of the NJC with just one vote. Decisions of the Council are put to vote. Its like presenting a case before the senate stating that the President of the senate is corrupt.

It will go through the house ethics on committee. The report of the committee will be debated upon and put to a vote.

The Senate President will simply exclude himself from such debate and handover to his deputy to handle the preceedings.

Thats how its done. Stop typing radarada upandan, abi na you them send come replace MC oluomo seh?

Hh

CilicMarin:
Only the police in invested with power to investigate and try crimes according to the Constitution....this is not even debateable...A military officer killed a LASMA the other day in Lagos, he was promptly arrested by the police, investigated and arraigned in court...No more no less!

Unless you are telling us, there is a special Constitution for Judicial officers....then lead us to that or hold your peace forever..

Crime is crime, unless you are under immunity..

Both bolded statements is proof that you have no idea what is inside our constitution..........

As for the soldier you claim was arrested, I dont know the facts of that case, so I am not at liberty to challenge/affirm what you have said.

By your assertion, it means the police is free to investigate a judge's handling of court cases, based your own interpretation of the constitution and other extant laws without any recourse to the NJC. This is Naive, but you don't need to take my word for it, you can confirm any established lawyer around you what the established practice ought to be.....,..

Note that judges are not just ordinary senior lawyers but representatives/leaders of the third arm of government of our democracy; the judiciary....

CilicMarin:
In your own understanding, if the CJN committed murder, he shouldn't be arrested and charged until the Judicial Council concurs

Bros even if a military personnel kills someone in or out of the line of duty, you dont charge to court him with his uniform for criminal cases.

You petition the military, they will review the case in line with extant laws - existing in military circles - and recommend the exoneration or dishonourable discharge (dishonourable discharge takes the uniform from the soldier) and handover to the Police for prosecution. That is the established practice to respect the dignity of the commission of a soldier, a commission that flows from the commander-in-chief of the arms forces that grants him a license to kill based on lawful orders from his superiors.



The same applies, tender your case before it (NJC), they will recommend exoneration or his immediate suspension/dismissal and subsequent prosecution based on existing law that guide their practice within the judiciary as an arm of government. It is the established practice.


Trying to arraign a sitting judge in court on criminal charges is just plain madness gone on rampage, if not that justice Danladi himself has proven to be an APC stooge, he should not even be in the mood to entertain trash without know what NJC has said.


It's that simple...........in any case, what is the issue? That his asset declaration didnt cover certain assets. Normally a normal productive human may likely increase in value, so as time progresses an annual review of your asset declaration is ideal. The provisions cover declaration before you occupy an office, thats all. That's why most public office holders do it once and use it consistently, just change the date and resubmit it for time sake.

Someone writes a petition concerning some assets not captured in his asset declaration, an executive that is balanced/stable and not vindictive will simply forward the petition via the NJC copying him, asking to update his asset declaration details (especially if your own asset declaration is like President Buhari's own that has not changed since 2003).

Then when he doesnt including those assets in contention, then you can seek his removal via the same NJC, because you will have established an attempt to hide some assets. Chikena

GavelSlam:
The executive executes.

The judiciary should never be found wanting in the area of law.

You obviously don't under a word of what he just said.......

That man is the head of the judiciary, which is a third arm of government. If the head of any arm of government is found wanting, there are disciplinary structures, embedded within such systems so as to respect the dignity of such offices.

Any attempt to circumvent/bypass such system, using legal technicalities by people who are learned, ought to be looked upon with suspicion.

That's why most commentators make reference to Saraki, he is the head of the legislature, the second arm of government. If you dont want him, take advantage of systems within his own arm of government and rid yourself of him, but trying to use strong arm tactics to push him out sets a bad precedence.

Tomorrow what if PDP wins presidential election and the next Senate president is from APC, you have successfully set a bad example for them or any other government to follow.

Of which all this is a non-issue, if truly the dignity of the office of CJN is to be respected. After reviewing such a petition, a simple letter to the CJN via the NJC demanding him to update his asset declaration details will suffice, then if he refuses to declare what he has now acquired, then and only then can you go after him, but because they want him out because he doesnt accept nonsense from the executive is what is bringing all this rubbish.

If it was Mr President this was happening to, you will hear their supporters demanding that the dignity of his office should be respected but the head of the judiciary doesnt deserve same.

A simple review of even President Buhari's asset declaration will butress my point. Even within the armed forces the same applies, the stress of having an auditor to come and review your assets and assist in declaration is enough to promote certain inaccuracies but using that to vilify the CJN because you want a pro-APC person there is uncivilised.

What is sauce for goose is sauce for gander. It was once said of this treachery we now call a government, that a man is presumed innocent until found guilty by a competent court of jurisdiction.

This argument held sway here and everywhere else, where staunch supporters of people like Magu, Amaechi, Babachir Lawal, etc when they had petitions raised against them.

The questions we now need to ask are;
1. Is Justice Onnoghen a robot or a man?
2. For now is he presumed Innocent yes or no?
3. Has he been proven guilty as we speak in a court of competent jurisdiction?

If we know the answers to these questions, then why rant helter skelter!?

If we cannot make men like Magu and Amaechi to step aside while cases against them are raised, then leave the Honourable Justice alone......Datzall

Modified:

That man is the head of the judiciary, which is a third arm of government. If the head of any arm of government is found wanting, there are disciplinary structures, embedded within such systems so as to respect the dignity of such offices.

Any attempt to circumvent/bypass such system, using legal technicalities by people who are learned, ought to be looked upon with suspicion.

That's why most commentators make reference to Saraki, he is the head of the legislature, the second arm of government. If you dont want him, take advantage of systems within his own arm of government and rid yourself of him, but trying to use strong arm tactics to push him out sets a bad precedence.

Tomorrow what if PDP wins presidential election and the next Senate president is from APC, you have successfully set a bad example for them or any other government to follow.

Of which all this is a non-issue, if truly the dignity of the office of CJN is to be respected. After reviewing such a petition, a simple letter to the CJN via the NJC demanding him to update his asset declaration details will suffice, then if he refuses to declare what he has now acquired, then and only then can you go after him, but because they want him out because he doesnt accept nonsense from the executive is what is bringing all this rubbish.

If it was Mr President this was happening to, you will hear their supporters demanding that the dignity of his office should be respected but the head of the judiciary doesnt deserve same.

A simple review of even President Buhari's asset declaration will butress my point. Even within the armed forces the same applies, the stress of having an auditor to come and review your assets and assist in declaration is enough to promote certain inaccuracies but using that to vilify the CJN because you want a pro-APC person there is uncivilised.

Jj

Hmmmmm......

Its a lie jooor! How can they retake Baga when they didnt lose it in the first place.....

@Last picture......if na only those arms una recover, just know say E don cast for una.

Na reserve/patrol unit for ISWAP na E una battle. The main troops dey road dey come, make una wait first make them baff come..

Officialpdpnig:
If I tell you wetin I get for my house you will know that it is not the 12k 500 that Atiku pays you lootocrat otimkpus that got it for me.

I suppose you forgot in your foolishness that every ministry under the government is captured in the budget and that budget is inclusive of media engagement and pushing the agenda of each ministry .

Atiku zombies have been known to be idiotic and you are a classic example

So the engagement of the Ministry of Information is "Re-elect Buhari"?

Bros when una buy TV, abeg tell us make we come help you come wash am........

Officialpdpnig:
Atiku and these his spokesmen don dey craze.
All these falsehood speedily being told will always backfire against them same way it did in 2015.

PDP never learn. Very poor opposition party which was once the ruling party

What's wrong with you? Are you blind? The Spokesman is talking about adverts that have been airing on NTA for the past how many days now ......

#PMBDIDIT with sponsored by Ministry of Information, with government logo, campaigning to re-elect Buhari and you are hear talking about falsehood.....


Oooh!! Bros sorry, no vex, I forget say you no get TV for house.......

Tt

unitysheart:
Lol.

As a family head, you will agree to move your son from 45000 per term school to an 80000 per term school without first studying how you'll be able to pay the money without fail.

What now happened to the tripatite committee setup for the exact same purpose?


Abi all them for the former committee na Olodo?

ninocia18:
All na wash. Election gymnastics.

Dead on arrival.....Bismarck is already anti-Minimum wage review. So all na just gymnastics to delay implementation.

The final outcome will be that they cannot increase it without damaging their ERGP economic plan which uses fake indices to deceive themselves that all is well

Jayslicky:
Apple's IPhone is the most hyped device I have ever seen, the battery capacity is poor, the RAM of the phone can't be compared to samsung and huawei own. I regret ever buying my IPhone I'm switching to android very soon.

Abeg DM me when you ready sell am. Which iPhone you dey use sef?

KingOfAllIgbos:


I am sure he was reading from a teleprompter after it had been translated in Hausa

Dullard President.... but i still prefer him to Atiku

You must be a Dan iska for that meme....


Meanwhile I still prefer Atiku to Jubril or Buhari Aka whatever they are calling him these days.

He has fought corruption like a Murinhno, he don try please let him go home and let atiku come and fight poverty and insecurity abeg........

Some people gat no chill sha......

See savagery! @Comment......"Buhari debated with himself and still lost........

NaijaRoyalty:
You're not making sense zombie

Actually he is. They have swept Ganduje tape under the carpet. So also, they will use their long broom and sweep this one too under the carpet.

That is why he said PDP will not learn. No matter what happens/leaks, APC team will use broom and sweep it under the carpet.

So what else can they do? Nothing! Except..........























































They remove the whole carpet......

Hmmmm......

See am, she don go sell market. Make una buy ooooo, before she vex, come tire go drink sniper.....

buharitill2023:
i say see oyibo, you say see Father,
are we not saying the same thing, that this audio was when ameachi was a governor and abe as ssg.

No we are not. If it was 2014 the audio was recorded Amaechi would never have mentioned Buhari nor Masari (Governor of katsina state, whom he said he had been asking for land for a Transport university and Masari isn't responding to him. He vowed he will now build it in his village).

Funny enough, katsina is now under seiged from Cattle rustlers and all manner of elements, provoking the governor to host an emergency security meeting last week.

If you had heard the full recording, then you will have known that he was addressing young Decampees to the APC.

ekene101:
Ordinary casing for 550k

Na really empty casing......

Na to add screen guard na E remain.......

buharitill2023:
it was in 2011 when ameachi was a governor and abe as ssg .
thief reno join 3 different audio together.

in 2011, ameachi as governor said every thing in Nigeria under pdp is not working, that the only thing pdp knows how to do best is how to share money,
until abe went to abuja as senator in 2011 and agree with ameachi that pdp is so corrupt.

the second and third audio happen in 2017-2018.
onitsha goat seller was in 2017.
the 3yrs of complain by the jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of biafra terrorist audio happen in 2018.

But Amaechi said, "when magnus abe was my SSG". Abi you sef no hear that one?

haladadon:
please can someone explain the powers that she has in her current position in INEC.

She is in charge og collation of results for presidential election come 2019. Now tell me, who is now a bastard that refuses correction?

Buhari whose government gave her the appointment or Nigerians that support such an appointment....

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We listened to it thrice and we were just shaking our head, that wakanda foolish nonentity is this criminal call Reno?!
What a mumucious fellow.
So this is the trash he had his gullible followers thirsty for so long, so that they can masturba8 with it.
The audio that he claimed will bring the nation to its knee!
Total RUBBISH! [/quote]I guess you have no idea why he even posted the audio in the first place, do you?

Reno first posted the first 10 seconds of that audio clip; his own way of quoting amechi's comment that Mr President "doesn't care, if you like abuse him, does he even read". He also said he was waiting for the APC crew to deny it.

Not long after, Deputy Chairman of APC, Twitter and instagram Zonal chapter, Tolu Ogunlesi, said the audio was not fake, but that Amaechi was talking about former president Jonathan and not their darling Buhari. He claimed that the audio recording was done in 2014, during the height of the crisis within the PDP which led to amaechi leaving the party.


He also called Reno a failure for trying to deceive Nigerians using audio meant for Jonathan to target Buhari. And the horde of APC/BMC zombies on twitter and instagram started ranting as usual.

Those are the people that Reno brought to their knees with this particular audio recording.

Now go and read your book before they do your own audio recording......

http://dailypost.ng/2019/01/05/presidency-reacts-leaked-audio-amaechi-criticising-buhari/

https://www.nairaland.com/4942477/presidency-reacts-leaked-audio-amaechi