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lexyman:
sometimes it's wise u pay a token amount to sm1 whose area of specialization suite the services u needed,

Who makes this guy "a specialist" in that field? I will like to think no one have any idea what they are doing when it comes to ps3 repair in Nigeria, but Sony.

Funny enough, most of the posters in this thread have agreed The Game is better than 50. The people have spoken and quite frankly, I will take the opinion of about 9 people that The Game is better, than that of a single mad man who's head is buried in sand.

My prediction is that many more will come in to make a vote for The Game. While our resident unenlightened and ill informed will be the one vouching for 50.

Why do people copy, paste, link and then run off with no opinion? Jeez. Some people are just weird.

I really do not understand why you guys do a copy and paste, then link and run off. Only leaving a line or two? Makes no freaking sense. I have found pressing "Page down key" skips past the whole lot.

Learn to leave your own opinion, that is how to get a debate started , not just copy, paste, link and run. Jeez. It is not exactly Rocket science or is it?

No I do not need to read it. I heard the whole thing live already and quite frankly, he is just mad as usual.

The offering to Oogun makes no sense. I am fully aware of Oogun appease and worship, and this story just do not make sense. Why is Oogun appeased? He's got nothing to do with this. The whole appease items looks more like something for Sango. But then, I really do not see how Sango came to involve in all of these.

A-40:
Lets Ride,One Blood,Dreams,My Life where all hits without Fiddy's input now lets compare Fiddy's watery hits Candy Shop,Just a lil bit,Amusement Park,I get money,Ayo Technology its obvious Fiddy would sell more his tunes are more R and B and Pop than Rap

@Sauron
Comparing a Biggie sound-alike with one hit to The Game? come on man did he snatch your girl

I maintain my points. 50 cent is a bubble gum hip pop rapper. He's got the market appeal record label are after - Got shot, comes from a dysfunctional family, history of crack dealing etc. The American market consumer loves the story of rag to riches and 50cents fits into this perfectly. How will he not sell?

Come on how many have taken a shot at his rapping ability? The list is as long as what not - Even a nigerian artist had a pop at him due his stupid ego. Almost all the real heavy weights and respect artist have dissed 50. Jada, Joe, The Game, Ja and a few others.

Like Jada said "Out of your crew, your flow is the weakest" "You aint got shot this time, what will you next album be about?" "A couple of pop songs and RnB garbage", Gosh I love Jada. Funny thing is 50 cent did exactly that, I mean what should we expect from him?

I mean what kinda of slowpoke takes a bet with Kanye and still lose? A wrapper with no freaking credibility like 50cent off-course.

Oh let's not forget how he raps that he is hard and will Bleep people up. Yet his chain wasd snatched right on stage in Africa, I see 50cent did shit about it. Instead, he pushed his bodyguard to go do the job, Jeez. An idiot dangling 100 grand worth of chain in front of africans that are hungry, that just goes to show his mentality. Strip me outside his so called gansterism and he is just as dumb, ignorant and stupid as those who think he is the greatest rapper ever!

The video of the incident in on you tube. In fact, here is the video of your so called gangster rapper getting jacked the African way!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcVqeNXnHrs

Only an idiot will compare Gorilla black in the same league as The Game. Period.

Kobojunkie:
Not you, just the whole Deny-the-problem-pass-on-the-blame tactics. It almost seems this is the tactic endorsed from the top or something. From Dora “the explorers” re-brand Nigeria by blaming the internationals move to this one, you almost get the sense that they are all working with the same basic plan, which is to deny the real problem and divert the attention of the people to the internationals in every way they can.

Oh sorry about that. It was directly after mine hence why I asked.

Yeah I see what you mean and I share you views to be honest. When people start taking responsible for their own actions, perhaps we may have the inclination of moving forward.

I personally find the whole thing awkward. No one ever wonder why a visa was need to come into this places before. If memory serves me right, no visa was required to come to the UK from Nigeria [ not sure about the US though]. But as with many things, we took advantage of it an messed it up. Surely, it can only be right the Countries react accordingly and slap visas on people coming from Nigeria. Simple logic seems to have defy our people in power to be honest.

Kobojunkie:
Sigh!!!

Hopefully, I haven't said something wrong?

yeswecan:
By attacking Iran now, Israel is only defending herself. Obama can take the back seat if he chooses to, Israelite will defend themselves.  Go and read about the six days war (June 5, 1967 – June 10, 1967) when Israel defeated Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria. It will happen again.

I mentioned this before. [made a mistake calling it the seven days war.]

Here is a summary of it all

During the Six-Day War, the IAF demonstrated the importance of air superiority during the course of a modern conflict, especially in a desert theatre. Following the IAF's preliminary air attack, in which the IAF achieved near total tactical surprise (only four unarmed Egyptian training flights were in the air when the strike began [127]), it was able to thwart and harass what remained of the Arab air forces and to grant itself air superiority over all fronts; it then complemented the strategic effect of its initial strike by carrying out tactical support operations.

In contrast, the Arab air forces never managed to mount an effective attack. Attacks of Jordanian fighters and Egyptian Tu-16 bombers into the Israeli rear during the first two days of the war were not successful and led to the destruction of the aircraft (Egyptian bombers were shot down, while Jordan's fighters were destroyed during the attack on the airfield).

Numerous disillusioned Arab pilots defected with their MiGs to Israel prior to the outbreak of the conflict. Israel capitalized on this by test flying the MiGs to the maximum, thus giving Israeli pilots great advantage over their opponents.

All I can say is[i] Allahu Akbar[/i].

yeswecan:
I think Ambassador Joe Keshi is right.

On what grounds please.

OneNaija:
@: i_laugh I truly Support you very much.don't mind them. They think they are on top of the World when travelling outside the Country.Anyway some of them Are Useless and Arrogant that why some of them Involved in Crime, 419 in Oversea and Given Nigerians Bad name. Stupid Ppl

Huh? Please drop names with convincing proofs, then people will take you serious.

cabali:
it is obvious there is noone yet on this thread that understand how the system works. So it is actually of no significance to explain it cos any attempt at that will get ignorant people arguing like girls.

It will be good if you can post and explain it for the good of those who really want to know. Perhaps you can ignore anyone who you feel is ignorant and just wanting bickering. Just a thought.

Moving on,

Who here likes the collaboration between Ice cube and The Game?

Kobojunkie:
hhmmmm, where do I start?

You took the word right out of my mouth.

rapjunkie:
African Oyinbo. . . . .R I P    she was definitely a source of inspiration to people who wanted to think outside the box

She's dead? Please fill me in.

Come to think of it, how the heck do one raps in Yoruba and it ended up sounding like it is some Brooklyn accent or something, 

The so called first lady of rap is guilty of this.

Bonjeh:
Most rappers sound like they are from Brooklyn because most of who they listen too are from the USA. They are clearly influenced by what they listen to. Please don't hate on them because of the accent sometimes it is subconcious. I don't think they are trying to be other then who they are. I mean some people when they talk it is very different from how they sing, would U criticize those  people too.

Rap Junkie gave you some few pointers already. Allow me to add a few to what he said!

Football was created in England right? While it is played all over the world, the footie game have been adapted to suit the style of its 2nd home. Brazilian football style is different from Spanish etc. Not everyone tired to play the English way.

I am a big rap fan and while I try to spit every now and then, I try to remain who I am and how I speak. To use an example closer to home Rugged man was influence by Run DMC, Dre, NWA and co. Yet he sounds more Nigerian and more real those some of those naija artist out there.

Mimicking others can be a good form of flattery, how ever it is nothing but imitation. Let us not forget that.

chamotex:
50 is a wastepipe. He can't rap!

Zap you man Sauron disagrees. 50cent is the[i] bestest [/i]rapper[i] evah![/i]

A-40:
Na waah ooh so on the evidence of just one song Fifty Cent is better why not compare all three albums they have dropped?

Get rich or die trying vs The Documentary

Massacre vs Doctor's Advocate

Curtis vs L.A.X

You don't graduate from college based on just one result in a semester do you?

@Sauron
This is pure Satis beef you have for The Game mention three rappers right now out West that are better than The Game.I can confidently tell you 50 is one of the weakest rappers in the East Coast don't be fooled by his record sales songs like Candy-shop,Just a lil bit and his other pop hits are very radio friendly

Clearly using his logic, you can only pick from what he says and not the logical way like you have done.

rapjunkie:
All these queens of rap with no albums sef!!!

and why they all sound like they from Brooklyn?

Sasha is the undisputed queen because she has had a hit record plus an album to her name.

It is one of the many reasons I really do not take a lot of Naija hiphop artist serious. It is too hard for my people to be who they are. Even the craziest thing is when they rap with Yoruba, it sounds like English. How scary is that.

What a fool.

Bawss1:
o oh, Sour is running his mouth now; this thread has gone the way of most NL threads -a platform of insults. Funny thing is that it starts out as some sort of quasi-intellectual execise. Pity

Nah am out of it now. I am moving away from it. I made my point and no need letting it turn uglier.

rapjunkie:
They should rename this thread to:

'Sauron verses ELRazur Part 1: The fight to the death '

Thanks guys for keeping NL interesting

I am no longer getting involve with him on this one.


In fact, I will apologise to you guys for allowing it to come to this way.

~Sauron~:
Shut the Bleep up and stop misinforming the public with your animal rants.

Wow. You started this with civility. How awesome. You really cannot see the irony here? You will rather shut me up instead of debating, May I refer you back to the point I made before and I stand by it.

~Sauron~:
The Game's best album cannot hold a candle to 50's best album.
50's worst album has sold more units than The Game's best album so what are we talking about here?
If 50 was wack, Dre/Eminem would never have signed him. How illogical can you get in one day with your constant heresy.

People like you are very funny. Album sale is not a true indication of how good an artist is. Olu maintain sold plenty of Yahoozee music than his rivals, I suppose in your book that means he is better than them?

You clearly have little understanding of how the indusrty work. 50 cent have been reportedly sign not because he can rap but because the parent company of Aftermath believes he is marketable.

Here are a few check-list I remember from the article.

50 cent marketable based on image and back ground:

Shot at before - Check

Can rap - check

Have a body ladies will love -  check

Have a story to tell about how he sells drugs and mum is a ho - check

ETC

You see, 50 fits in more as a commercially viable artist than a real artist. Take it or leave it.

~Sauron~:
Breaks to do other things ma foot!!! Ja Rule is dead n buried.

No you ignorant one. He is doing other projects. How knowledgeable are you, seriously? How knowledgeable?[ I mean, if you debate in an uncivilised manner, I really do not expect an answer from you.]

~Sauron~:
How is the measuring yard wrong?? I used an analogy u can understand since you keep hurling asinine comments.

I have explained that and going over the same thing again is something I am avoiding with you. You are to ignorant to see it.

~Sauron~:
U possess a myopic mind. . . . . .Go and read the meaning of 'analogy'
The gap between Canibus and Mode9 is the same as 50 cent and The Game.
He lived on 50's image in his debut album and it was no surprise his most popular songs featured 50 cent.
After breaking off G-unit, he has not sold one million copies on each of his subsequent albums.

No you are quoting half baked rap lines at me. Jeez, are you running out of words yet? Dude the one here with an ignorant mind is you.

How can he lived off 50's image when he is a better rapper than 50? Why 50, why not Dr dre, Or with your logic 50 is bigger than Dre?

If you really are knowledgeable then you would have realise that sales of hiphop music have declined in the US. So selling a million copies plus is still considered an achievement. And for the record he sold 1.5 million on Dr's Advocate
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_The_Game%27s_total_record_sales_figure_for_Doctor%27s_Advocate

That even goes against your claim. Like I said before, you seem to have a habit of  making these things up along as you go. Again it begs the question how knowledgeable are you?

~Sauron~:
SoundScan will tell you who is better.

Sales in hiphop sales is dipping, so it is affecting everyone.
http://gillmoreboy..com/2008/01/news-ny-times-analyses-hip-hop-sales.html

~Sauron~:
He is only 28?? What has age gotta do with it??
How old was Biggie/2Pac when they ruled the rap industry??

Think, oh wait, you don't do that. You just talk for the sake of it. He lost his mentor - Dre, He had beef with 50cent, he had personal problems etc. He is young and still mentally growing when all of those happened. He did very well to manage a platinum album in between and a label. Dude give kudos where kudo is due, but I guess that is a strange concept to you.

~Sauron~:
Gorilla Black woulda done better under Dr. Dre.
The Game had the best producer behind him with brilliant rappers to work with and he still FAILED.

You really are ignorant on a scary level. You claimed he was the weakest from Westcoast. I gave you someone who is really weak and from the west coast. Yet you resulted to a straw man's argument. Jeez. You are talking IF's and as far am concerned very irrelevant. Also if you really know your onions, Dre wont touch an artist like Gorilla black, unless plenty money and I mean plenty money is involved.

The Game had other doctors behind him and like he said, he got the same prescription. Not only did he went platinum, he defied all expectation. So what exactly is your point?

It is been fun dude.

Baro:
There can be figures with maybe 90% accuracy, but most of our artistes choose to inflate these figures . . . .they lie about it for hype and favourable ratings, mind you, this won't stop cos it works for them . . . .

It is one of my few gripes with those who claim to have gone platinum. It would be nice to have some true figures to back it up. That is what this thread is supposed to be about.

~Sauron~:
5,000 tracks of music means shyte if they are not quality.
Apple iPods are more superior but i won't veer off tangent.

You really are a fool. How did you arrive at such conclusion with my musical collection? You really are obtuse dude. Again you made an irrelevant point. What all of these because you got pawned in another thread? How stupidly pathetic. Dude how old are you mentally? Based on you manner and style of posting you clearly have a lot of growing up to do.

What facts do you have to back this up? Or once again you pull these things out of your back side?

~Sauron~:
Rated one of the best does not make it the best.
Who dare compares Sony to Apple in the world of MP3/4 player??

So you accept Sony is one of the best? I rest my case. Wasting time to debate with you on something that is highly subjective will yield no result. Check out the reviews on the sonywalkman range and come back and talk to me, when you are enlightened.

~Sauron~:
It is difficult to have a debate with an ignorant person without names being called.
At least, endeavour to know what you are talking about before spewing hokum.

Yet another heap of applesauce!!

Write in a clear and concise manner.
T

You are the ignorant one here. I have remained civil with you so far, but clearly you really lack the intelligence to see that. So you call names and you feel better? Seriously you have a complex going on.

You know another weakness of yours is trying to pick on errors in a post. Jeez dude you are a Grade A person!

~Sauron~:
I am saying getting a billion naira upfront does not make any meaning if the overhead cost outweighs the upfront.
You are looking at figures, i am talking about net spend.
An artiste gets $10,000 and his overheads are $9,000. . . . . .What is the profit??

There are different kinds of artistes, hombre.
The ones who do owambe kinda music make more money via shows than CDs.
Besides, Naija artistes are just coming of age in putting their music outside Nigeria unlike in the 90s when the songs don't leave the shores.

Highly irrelevant!!!
Bouqui(the gospel artiste) just told the media she spent 3.5 million on making a single video in London.
That is the overhead i am talking about. No amount of upfront can match that.
THINK!!!!

What an ignorant person! No artist will put out a show at a lost. Period. This is business and as such, no one is in it to make a loss.

Naija artists make more money from shows than they make on cd. Denying this is denying a well known truth.





I have said this a few times now and I think it is time I stick to it. I am not engaging with you any more. Have a nice day and I mean that.

ifele:
Them white people named you Nigeria.

Nigeria= Niggers + here= Niger + ia= Nigeria

They are just saying you are niggers. Reject the nigger identity.

there is no polite way to say nigger

Nice try. I think Nigeria come from the name "Niger area". This is in reference to the river niger and the surrounding areas. I remember this from my social studies way back.

ifele:
Richyblack is one of the super-idiots in this forum. He needs a common sense injection.

Olorun e ma gbami o.

You wanna see how ignorant he is? Check out the Israeli thread in foreign affairs section.

He even had the audacity to sent me a pm and warned me, just because he acted ignorant with his post and I pointed it out.

i_laugh:
something is not right here -  why is it that the Nigerians who live outside Nigeria contribute and comment with so much venon in them whereas the contributions of Nigerians living in Nigeria are always subtle- the Nigerians in Nigeria always see things good about their country, they are more hopeful  but the ones lost in the diaspora, speak with lost hope, their thinking is so rubbish and sickly that you often wonder if they ever see good food to eat - do they love Naija more than the people living in it or what is the matter? The frustration?

You seem to forget that your perception do not equate to facts. Perhaps you should therefore stop presenting them as facts. As most will tell you, we love Nigeria in our own ways. Living in NIgeria or outside Nigeria do not make a difference to how patriotic we are to the nation.

i_laugh:
They are the ones who compare Nigeria with everywhere they have been, they are the ones who comes out first to rubbish anything planned, they are the ones who only see corruption, they are the ones who see failed facilities, they are the ones who knows when government policies will fail or work - they are the all knowing goons scattered and battered with frustrated life all over the globe.

They are the ones who curse the country, they are the ones who knows what is good, what is their problem, can they just shut up and let nigeria be?

You see from my brief encounter with you, you seem to have a problem with anyone constructively criticizing nigeria. Why is that?

The problem with Nigeria is that we have had over 40years to get things right and time and time again, we have showed that we really do not care about the good of the naiton, but our selfish need born out of greed and ingrained corruption.

If people have been abroad, it hurts them to see that we cannot even provide basic things needed in this day and age. Surely, it is only human nature to ask questions as to why we cannot achieve such things in our very own country.


Once again you displayed a big irony in your post. You do not want people to criticize nigeria constructively - this is your 2nd thread from yesterday saying something alone similar lines. This is precisely one of the problems we face and one of the factors that have hindered our development.

Do you expect us to not say anything on a public forum for god sake? If you know what a forum means, then you wont be quick to try and shut people up. It is a typical naija mentality and it sucks to be honest.

Azanor:
burnout paradise is tha bomb. it bullies all other recent arcade racing games out there.

in the mean time i rely on unreal 2004 for all my multiplayer needs

What a bold statement to make! Have you played ALL the racing games out there? Surely you would have heard of Ridge Racer 7. Even though it was a launch game, millions are still playing it online. You really need to check it out. Oh by the way, I have played burnout.

lexyman:
these are d likely problems of your ps3 ; bad hdd or currupted firmware, this guy can assist u with it (kay 08033013391)

It is easy to fix. Upload the a new firmware. Also go to sony's website, there are a few tips. You need to be here live for me to help you if you want. There are a few things you can do. Please do not pay someone to do it for you, It should be fixable.

That is a bargain.

Cant wait to challenge you on pro evo. Yeah the log is more or less okay now. My internet connection at home is 18megs. One of the fastest in the UK - well apart from virgin that is like 100megs

Bonjeh:
ElRazur I agree with you totally. I have had the privilege of talking with some Nigerian artistes and most their income comes from shows and corporate sponsorship. Regarding the sales of CDs, that is just like a marketing strategy to promote the artists brand. What usually happens is that the artist sells his Master copy to people like T-joe. It is people like T-joe who actually makes most of the money off of CDs not the Artist.

Using ~Sauron~'s logic you intelligent is almost non-existent for making such point! **rolleyes**

That is exactly what I am saying, but somehow he just do not understand. I know a few artist that have had millions of naira equivalent upfront before a shows. Also, Sauron is forgetting that most of our artist just mime to CD without need for much props. Yet he makes a claim of massive over head cost etc. Even if there is a massive over head cost, the artists are still making a gain.

Looking up on the history of music in Nigeria, our artists makes more money on shows than cd. Fact.

Personally, I feel he is just one of those people who cannot really string up a few sentence without showing a sort of complex. In his case, "I am right you are wrong and there is nothing you can say about it complex" Gosh that is a very bad complex to display on a forum.

You should check out his post in the thread "The game or 50cent who is better".